Post: #101

Quote:I do get annoyed when people throw the term black around all the time when it benefits them. I mean Obama is part black and part white, and it does not matter who he identifies with. Its genes its race, you dont pick your parents. Why dont we call Tiger half asian and 1/4 white 1/4 black? I mean to me he looks more Asian / Polynesian than white or black to me. Why is it when a half black man gets somewhere in the world, they say he is is black?

It's the western world. In many European Countries, you either are white or black, there is nothing between it. I don't know about the US though.

Quote:I hate to sound like this, but if people really want to be equal then start acting like it. Clean up your own back yard first. When you are black and pick up women, then welcome lets share some ideas. Im sure there are some whites, asians, latinos etc. here that could use your help in meeting black girls as well as white girls However some of this shit I'm seeing on the forum and Roosh's page post about race is fucked. "Black power, yeah fucking allll the white bitches in " da w3rld yeaaaa all white bitches crave all black dudes.... " give me a break man. Maybe I just gave some of you guys too much credit or maybe I really am on a forum with a bunch af 15 year olds.

Fully agree with this.

Post: #102

(08-24-2010 03:29 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  Damn this forum is the new Black planet. Im getting sick of this shit man, its why I've gone away for a couple weeks, came back and not missed one important pick up topic. Same old shit.

Well, do yourself and the members here a favor -- stay the hell away permanently

You're the last person who should be commenting on who is --and who isn't -- Black. You don't know what the fuck you're writing about.

Post: #103

Easy people, easy.

Post: #104

(08-24-2010 03:29 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  Damn this forum is the new Black planet. Im getting sick of this shit man, its why I've gone away for a couple weeks, came back and not missed one important pick up topic. Same old shit. yawn.

To clear up some shit here. Black as we define it in the Western world is Sub Saharan Africans. These are the typical Afro-American, Afro Brazilain and Carribean blacks. These are the blacks we find in the west, in Hip Hop, in NBA etc for you slower members.

Some northern Africans can be very dark Skinned but are not "Negro" or black as we say it here. Same as some Indians you see, like super black, but not with Negro features. If you are born an Albino negro, then you are still a negro. Simple. Its not about color, its about bone structire, hair, skin (not color) facial features.

I do get annoyed when people throw the term black around all the time when it benefits them. I mean Obama is part black and part white, and it does not matter who he identifies with. Its genes its race, you dont pick your parents. Why dont we call Tiger half asian and 1/4 white 1/4 black? I mean to me he looks more Asian / Polynesian than white or black to me. Why is it when a half black man gets somewhere in the world, they say he is is black?

I hate to sound like this, but if people really want to be equal then start acting like it. Clean up your own back yard first. When you are black and pick up women, then welcome lets share some ideas. Im sure there are some whites, asians, latinos etc. here that could use your help in meeting black girls as well as white girls However some of this shit I'm seeing on the forum and Roosh's page post about race is fucked. "Black power, yeah fucking allll the white bitches in " da w3rld yeaaaa all white bitches crave all black dudes.... " give me a break man. Maybe I just gave some of you guys too much credit or maybe I really am on a forum with a bunch af 15 year olds.

?? Really Rocco?...This post has definitely offered some enlightment on the aforementioned subject that I believe has been very interesting and a good source of learning for alot of forum members here. As evident in the number of Private Mesages I have received about it. You really are reaching here and your ramblings sound like extreme paranoia...My advice is to just chill out and/or just stay away from this post If it annoys you that much and stick to your topics of choice which you seem to offer better insight.

Post: #105

@ Interational: Yeah there has been some good info on both sides of the spectrum no doubt, but there has also been allot of misconceptions and hating going on for no real reason. Tell me that isn't true? I also didnt direct this to the internal forum postings only, I mean on the outside of the site with all these people getting heated up over things that should be handled in a little better manner. As far as the topic of race, its something I find interesting and can be real eye opening when held in the right context but when half the people here seem to think its a joke or are completely blinded to the others opinions, then it makes it get old real quick

@ Globalballer: Now what makes you think Im the last person that should be commenting on racial issues? What exactly in my post was not accurate about what the WESTERN world considers black? I dont care if you site some shit about the Russians or Chinese. Right here where you and I live tell me what was wrong with what I said? Was Micheal Jackson suddenly white because he bleached his skin? Is VJ Singh considered black because he is darker than most black Americans? Or maybe because you are the be all end all of "blackness" yourself you know better than me or other members on here who might agree with me, about color.

And as to my comment about some black posters (again this includes the public forum) talking shit like I joking quoted..tell me that ain't true? For every one redneck cracker talking racist shit there is an ignorant black poster writing shit along the same lines.

As far as my contributions to this forum I guess that depends on who you ask bro. I have posted plenty of useful stuff on here and have asked of others and learned plenty of good stuff along the way.. if you can clear your head like some other brothers I know and come with some real talk then you might can teach me a thing or two and maybe just learn for yourself. Old dogs can learn new tricks.

Post: #106

I don't agree with what Rocco is saying since it primarily comes from typical observations of race based on the skin level analysis (which if you ask a race and ethnicity sociologist he will tell you race is a lot more then just skin). All I can say is do some more research before your are so ready to draw your conclusions. I could get in a back and forth with you but I am not a teacher.

Ish Gibbor

Post: #107

I appreciate your respectful post Ish. However to be fair about it, I was actually supporting what allot of other black guys were saying in other threads and even in this thread. I'm also saying the same thing (I think) that you are. For instance, in another thread there was talk about how in Russia they consider blacks as anyone darker than white, including some asians, people of the caucas, darker greeks etc. This has been going on a while and black is not just a skin tone is all I was saying. Race is way more than skin color and I tried to make that clear before.

To everyone else, I need to explain that my response earlier that some may not like, was not just about this thread but my reflection on the wirlwind that Roosh's race totem pole post created on the open /anon. comments section in addition to allot of racially based comments in other threads as well as this one.

Post: #108

Rocco, I realized that you are now back pedalling from your ealier post but I still have a question, why do these type of threads annoy you? 90% of the threads here are written from a White guys point of view and I enjoy reading those. I like reading about different point of views other than my own. You remind me of White people who complain that Tyler Perry movies don't have a single White character in them yet do not say a word about the other 75% of movies with an all white cast. I smell a blatant double standard here, when White members write about Game/sexual prowess in far away lands, I read nothing but kudos and no one questions wether P4P was used. However, when a Brother does the same thing, you and some of other members come out of the woodwork hating and trying to throw salt in the Game. I am starting to wonder if some members here are only comfortable with stereotypes that perpetuates the the myth of White Supremacy and the inferiority of everyone else. For example, I am not saying this applies to you but I am making a general observation, it seems some people here are totally comfortable with Black Men drinking 40's, smoking weed and fucking fat bitches. But as soon as they hear about Black Men traveling first class, bottle service in European capitals, fucking different top notch European chicks every night people start feeling uncomfortable and dismiss it as fantasy. Personally, I find it more believable that a Black member gets quality pussy in Europe than a White guys scoring "free" pussy from spots that prostitutes are known to congregate in Latin America and Asia. But even then, I still give every member here regardless of race the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their data sheets. And for the record, middle class Black guys do other things for a living other than rap, sing R&B, play ball, comedian and sling crack rock.

Post: #109

(08-26-2010 08:29 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  I appreciate your respectful post Ish. However to be fair about it, I was actually supporting what allot of other black guys were saying in other threads and even in this thread. I'm also saying the same thing (I think) that you are. For instance, in another thread there was talk about how in Russia they consider blacks as anyone darker than white, including some asians, people of the caucas, darker greeks etc. This has been going on a while and black is not just a skin tone is all I was saying. Race is way more than skin color and I tried to make that clear before.

To everyone else, I need to explain that my response earlier that some may not like, was not just about this thread but my reflection on the wirlwind that Roosh's race totem pole post created on the open /anon. comments section in addition to allot of racially based comments in other threads as well as this one.

Point taken. I am glad you have a deeper level of analysis.

Ish Gibbor

Post: #110

(08-28-2010 10:37 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  Rocco, I realized that you are now back pedalling from your ealier post but I still have a question, why do these type of threads annoy you? 90% of the threads here are written from a White guys point of view and I enjoy reading those. I like reading about different point of views other than my own. You remind me of White people who complain that Tyler Perry movies don't have a single White character in them yet do not say a word about the other 75% of movies with an all white cast. I smell a blatant double standard here, when White members write about Game/sexual prowess in far away lands, I read nothing but kudos and no one questions wether P4P was used. However, when a Brother does the same thing, you and some of other members come out of the woodwork hating and trying to throw salt in the Game. I am starting to wonder if some members here are only comfortable with stereotypes that perpetuates the the myth of White Supremacy and the inferiority of everyone else. For example, I am not saying this applies to you but I am making a general observation, it seems some people here are totally comfortable with Black Men drinking 40's, smoking weed and fucking fat bitches. But as soon as they hear about Black Men traveling first class, bottle service in European capitals, fucking different top notch European chicks every night people start feeling uncomfortable and dismiss it as fantasy. Personally, I find it more believable that a Black member gets quality pussy in Europe than a White guys scoring "free" pussy from spots that prostitutes are known to congregate in Latin America and Asia. But even then, I still give every member here regardless of race the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their data sheets. And for the record, middle class Black guys do other things for a living other than rap, sing R&B, play ball, comedian and sling crack rock.

Co-sign...you're on-point.

Post: #111

(08-28-2010 01:30 PM)Global Baller Wrote:  

(08-28-2010 10:37 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  Rocco, I realized that you are now back pedalling from your ealier post but I still have a question, why do these type of threads annoy you? 90% of the threads here are written from a White guys point of view and I enjoy reading those. I like reading about different point of views other than my own. You remind me of White people who complain that Tyler Perry movies don't have a single White character in them yet do not say a word about the other 75% of movies with an all white cast. I smell a blatant double standard here, when White members write about Game/sexual prowess in far away lands, I read nothing but kudos and no one questions wether P4P was used. However, when a Brother does the same thing, you and some of other members come out of the woodwork hating and trying to throw salt in the Game. I am starting to wonder if some members here are only comfortable with stereotypes that perpetuates the the myth of White Supremacy and the inferiority of everyone else. For example, I am not saying this applies to you but I am making a general observation, it seems some people here are totally comfortable with Black Men drinking 40's, smoking weed and fucking fat bitches. But as soon as they hear about Black Men traveling first class, bottle service in European capitals, fucking different top notch European chicks every night people start feeling uncomfortable and dismiss it as fantasy. Personally, I find it more believable that a Black member gets quality pussy in Europe than a White guys scoring "free" pussy from spots that prostitutes are known to congregate in Latin America and Asia. But even then, I still give every member here regardless of race the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their data sheets. And for the record, middle class Black guys do other things for a living other than rap, sing R&B, play ball, comedian and sling crack rock.

Co-sign...you're on-point.

LOL......never could rap, can't sing, not funny but people laugh at me, thought crack rocks were street slang for poop until I was enlightened, and yeah I can ball..that one is true...my "J" is pure honey

Post: #112

(08-28-2010 01:30 PM)Global Baller Wrote:  

(08-28-2010 10:37 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  Rocco, I realized that you are now back pedalling from your ealier post but I still have a question, why do these type of threads annoy you? 90% of the threads here are written from a White guys point of view and I enjoy reading those. I like reading about different point of views other than my own. You remind me of White people who complain that Tyler Perry movies don't have a single White character in them yet do not say a word about the other 75% of movies with an all white cast. I smell a blatant double standard here, when White members write about Game/sexual prowess in far away lands, I read nothing but kudos and no one questions wether P4P was used. However, when a Brother does the same thing, you and some of other members come out of the woodwork hating and trying to throw salt in the Game. I am starting to wonder if some members here are only comfortable with stereotypes that perpetuates the the myth of White Supremacy and the inferiority of everyone else. For example, I am not saying this applies to you but I am making a general observation, it seems some people here are totally comfortable with Black Men drinking 40's, smoking weed and fucking fat bitches. But as soon as they hear about Black Men traveling first class, bottle service in European capitals, fucking different top notch European chicks every night people start feeling uncomfortable and dismiss it as fantasy. Personally, I find it more believable that a Black member gets quality pussy in Europe than a White guys scoring "free" pussy from spots that prostitutes are known to congregate in Latin America and Asia. But even then, I still give every member here regardless of race the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their data sheets. And for the record, middle class Black guys do other things for a living other than rap, sing R&B, play ball, comedian and sling crack rock.

Co-sign...you're on-point.

Can't say that I don't agree, very cathartic post. I never wondered why so many people found black empowerment offensive. Considering the 400 plus years of negative propaganda against people of color a little bit of "yeah black guys going out fucking white bitches" although absurd is necessary to counteract the years of "what black men fucking white bitches? grab that noose and lets KILL THEM!". Reverse racism is arguably, the most baseless assertion in all of academia.

Oh well, hung up my activist shirt a long time ago.

Ish Gibbor

P.S. This thread is a game killer. The last thing anyone needs in their mind when out in the field is to be thinking their race is the reason why they are not getting with women. There are plenty of black guys I know that cleaned house in South America. In the words of the immortal rap group Public Enemy "Don't believe the hype".

Post: #113

@Passport: I have not backed off of anything I said. My original purpose in this very thread was just to join in and give my POV without sounding negative. Then about the same time this thread was booming (which had some good points as well as bs trash in it) Roosh did the Race totem pole post, which was chocked full of hate and trash from some random web surfers as well as members here just talking non-sense. I got a bad vibe with the way the posts were going and reacted to it. So I was explaining to you guys where my idea was coming from. I'm not back pedaling.

Allot of what I posted in this thread actually supports what many black members here were saying to begin with. This much is true. If you have read any of my other posts here in the forum you know that I've always kept pretty much the same attitude about race and dating. I think you are applying many of the other poster's statements to mine.

As for the traveling liars, I don't think that has a color to it. I have seen plenty of older guys mostly white, but some latino and black getting P4P in South America and Europe. Since I dont know much about Asia I can only talk about Europe N.America and S. America.

Most importantly some of you guys can sit here and cry fowl, but I just call it like I see it. You will find me defending Asian dudes, though I'm not Asian. I get sick of seeing dudes from my own culture talking shit and bragging about Asian conquests while simoutaneously disrespecting Asian dudes. Its just iternet bullying , but it affects people. I dont expect bonus points for that, just saying I'm fair.

Post: #114

(08-28-2010 10:37 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  Rocco, I realized that you are now back pedalling from your ealier post but I still have a question, why do these type of threads annoy you? 90% of the threads here are written from a White guys point of view and I enjoy reading those. I like reading about different point of views other than my own. You remind me of White people who complain that Tyler Perry movies don't have a single White character in them yet do not say a word about the other 75% of movies with an all white cast. I smell a blatant double standard here, when White members write about Game/sexual prowess in far away lands, I read nothing but kudos and no one questions wether P4P was used. However, when a Brother does the same thing, you and some of other members come out of the woodwork hating and trying to throw salt in the Game. I am starting to wonder if some members here are only comfortable with stereotypes that perpetuates the the myth of White Supremacy and the inferiority of everyone else. For example, I am not saying this applies to you but I am making a general observation, it seems some people here are totally comfortable with Black Men drinking 40's, smoking weed and fucking fat bitches. But as soon as they hear about Black Men traveling first class, bottle service in European capitals, fucking different top notch European chicks every night people start feeling uncomfortable and dismiss it as fantasy. Personally, I find it more believable that a Black member gets quality pussy in Europe than a White guys scoring "free" pussy from spots that prostitutes are known to congregate in Latin America and Asia. But even then, I still give every member here regardless of race the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their data sheets. And for the record, middle class Black guys do other things for a living other than rap, sing R&B, play ball, comedian and sling crack rock.

Chhuuuccchhhhh! To quote Jay-Z:
You already know what the business is
Unnecessary commissary, boy we live this shit.