Post: #1

Here's the article.

Swift has been described as a feminist's worst nightmare.

Her wikipedia cites a New York Times article about her views on feminism: "I have never really thought about that".



She's publicly been with a bunch of older Hollywood guys in their thirties and is now with an 18 y/o Kennedy. Whatttt's going on.

Post: #2

Would marry. Would bang the shit out of. Would not sign prenup. Would cheat. Would receive alimony. Would never have to work again.

Post: #3

He has mad game?

Post: #4

He obviously puts her in check. Instead of being like 99% of her fan base he is not scared to tell her that she is no above him, and even though she can find some guy who is better looking and 100x more beta she fucking loves this guy for putting her in check and not sucking up to her. Just look at this guy... He has weird hair, horrible body, and no swag its either he was with this chick for a long time (uncommon) or he has been spitting mad game on her and since she is a celebrity that gets fawned over by betas she gets her vagina wet of this guy. I hope this does not boost his ego and he acts to powerful, i would want to see him cheat though to see if he can pull her back with his game, would be really interesting

Post: #5

a woman doing what she wants = a feminists worst nightmare. HMMMMMMMMMM

Post: #6

(08-15-2012 09:32 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  a woman doing what she wants = a feminists worst nightmare. HMMMMMMMMMM

What makes it worse is that this guy has no cash,looks and by the look of his hair/body no shits regarding his body which makes feminist look like shit because their high standards have been destroyed by a regular human being with game.

Post: #7

She also just released a new song about (surprise, surprise) another breakup.

This girl loves the dick.

Post: #8

(08-15-2012 09:28 PM)HusseinsVoice Wrote:  He obviously puts her in check. Instead of being like 99% of her fan base he is not scared to tell her that she is no above him, and even though she can find some guy who is better looking and 100x more beta she fucking loves this guy for putting her in check and not sucking up to her. Just look at this guy... He has weird hair, horrible body, and no swag its either he was with this chick for a long time (uncommon) or he has been spitting mad game on her and since she is a celebrity that gets fawned over by betas she gets her vagina wet of this guy.

...and he just happens to be a Kennedy (closest to American "royalty" you can get, arguably the first American family of the 20th century, etc), grandson to one of the most famous senators ever to hold office and grand nephew to arguably the most famous president we've had in the modern era.

I'm sure none of that factors in at all...

Post: #9

(08-15-2012 09:36 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  he just happens to be a Kennedy

He is a Kennedy!!! Well fuck, that explains it. This kid is royalty!! He is super rich and powerful already.

Post: #10

(08-15-2012 09:36 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(08-15-2012 09:28 PM)HusseinsVoice Wrote:  He obviously puts her in check. Instead of being like 99% of her fan base he is not scared to tell her that she is no above him, and even though she can find some guy who is better looking and 100x more beta she fucking loves this guy for putting her in check and not sucking up to her. Just look at this guy... He has weird hair, horrible body, and no swag its either he was with this chick for a long time (uncommon) or he has been spitting mad game on her and since she is a celebrity that gets fawned over by betas she gets her vagina wet of this guy.

...and he just happens to be a Kennedy (closest to American "royalty" you can get, arguably the first American family of the 20th century, etc), grandson to one of the most famous senators ever to hold office and grand nephew to arguably the most famous president we've had in the modern era.

I'm sure none of that factors in at all...

Your right. Even so he has to have massive game to pull that chick because you can be super powerful and rich, but not get any pussy

Post: #11

Hate to blow all of your wads but yeah, "American Royalty" is pretty much it. Guy is too anti-game in appearance to pull a celebrity otherwise.

Post: #12

(08-15-2012 09:42 PM)HusseinsVoice Wrote:  he has to have massive game to pull that chick

I don't know about this. She might be sick of all the smooth, suave, older playboys she had been dating and just wants to date a simple, carefree kid who she can laugh with and talk about kids stuff with.

Or, she is trying to MARRY INTO THE KENNEDYS!!! In which case, she is gaming him.

Post: #13

(08-15-2012 09:42 PM)HusseinsVoice Wrote:  Your right. Even so he has to have massive game to pull that chick because you can be super powerful and rich, but not get any pussy

He's a Kennedy.

By blood he treats people like shit, mooches off of people (even though he's rich), and manipulates.

So his game was being prepped from the womb.

Post: #14

Either she's smart or incredibly stupid.

My spidey sense leans toward stupid but I can't call it..
The kid is EIGHTEEN. She's four years older and bought a HOUSE to be close to him and his family.

HE is a KENNEDY.
She doesn't know about feminism and likes baking.
My brain is kind of making smoke. I don't get it.

Post: #15

Fuck man, what does it take to build a family like that, where your grandkids can date sexy successful celebrities without even needing to dress well? I would like to develop that kind of imprimatur in my lifetime.

Post: #16

(08-15-2012 10:12 PM)polymath Wrote:  Fuck man, what does it take to build a family like that, where your grandkids can date sexy successful celebrities without even needing to dress well? I would like to develop that kind of imprimatur in my lifetime.

Get involved in crime. That's how the Kennedy's did it

Quote:she is gaming him

Yep. She's gonna get this little 18 year-old kid to fall head over heels for her, meanwhile she could cheat and fuck anyone else she wants behind his back because this little beta ass won't have a clue about how women actually work.

If she get's married to him she'll be part of the one of the world's most famous families as well as be set for life. Meanwhile he'll still be chained to a woman 4 years older than he is.

And during this time she can cheat and fuck anyone else she wants (i.e. real alphas) since she'll have all the upper hand in the relationship, being older, more experienced with the game, and simply leaps and bounds hotter than just about anything else he could get.


This is a classic gold-digger move. But I'm not going to knock her for it. If it wasn't for gold-diggers, I wouldn't be alive (thanks mom!). Gold-diggers have existed since the dawn of humanity, it's obviously a very successful evolutionary strategy.

Post: #17

What a bunch of game denialists...

With a little detective work using my advanced photo x-ray technology (code name: Photoshop CS4), I have evidence that this "Kennedy" has been wearing a mask all along:

Post: #18

I love it when naive conservatives and traditionalists tout Taylor Swift as the sign of some cultural anti-feminist, conservative renaissance. The chick is damaged goods. She wrote a song lashing out at probably the biggest celebrity player around. She's almost assuredly fucked several high profile guys. She's just as much a hypergamous whore as the rest of 'em. She's just found a niche of 'pure little white girl' and positioned herself accordingly.

The funny thing about the Kennedys is that they were seen as dirt in their day. The Boston WASP elite considered the Irish worse than the Jews. See the book Old Money. The Kennedys compensate for a lack of pedigree and class with notoriety.

Post: #19

(08-15-2012 10:34 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(08-15-2012 10:12 PM)polymath Wrote:  Fuck man, what does it take to build a family like that, where your grandkids can date sexy successful celebrities without even needing to dress well? I would like to develop that kind of imprimatur in my lifetime.

Get involved in crime. That's how the Kennedy's did it

Quote:she is gaming him

Yep. She's gonna get this little 18 year-old kid to fall head over heels for her, meanwhile she could cheat and fuck anyone else she wants behind his back because this little beta ass won't have a clue about how women actually work.

If she get's married to him she'll be part of the one of the world's most famous families as well as be set for life. Meanwhile he'll still be chained to a woman 4 years older than he is.

And during this time she can cheat and fuck anyone else she wants (i.e. real alphas) since she'll have all the upper hand in the relationship, being older, more experienced with the game, and simply leaps and bounds hotter than just about anything else he could get.


This is a classic gold-digger move. But I'm not going to knock her for it. If it wasn't for gold-diggers, I wouldn't be alive (thanks mom!). Gold-diggers have existed since the dawn of humanity, it's obviously a very successful evolutionary strategy.

I totally agree, he is totally out match in terms of knowledge of women psych.

She is going to play this to the hill. Just another taylor swift boy trophy. First it was the twilight dude. Now a Kennedy. Next stop perhaps the royal family in England or the Rockefeller.

She is just doing her check down.

Check twilight dude
Check kennedy
next royal family?

I trained my little sister to be a gold digger. She just got married to a millionaire....not bad. The guy is a total beta and she dominates his ass.

Guess what she told me the other day, me...."Hey Jerome, you should use all that stupid gaming shit that you been doing and use it to married a rich girl"

I haven't decided yet. I still believe in Love?????

Post: #20

(08-15-2012 09:42 PM)HusseinsVoice Wrote:  Your right. Even so he has to have massive game to pull that chick because you can be super powerful and rich, but not get any pussy

At this level of wealth and prestige, that is unlikely. There are women who spend much of their youth dreaming of becoming part of dynasties like these, and plenty of girls will line up for even the weakest of the litter (who, it is worth noting, will still be much wealthier and carry a far better pedigree than the average joe).

This guy would need to be fundamentally uncorked (I'm talking medical problems here-deep Aspergers or something serious) to have the kind of problems with women you imply. The bar for him is a lot lower than it is for any of us.

(08-15-2012 10:12 PM)polymath Wrote:  Fuck man, what does it take to build a family like that, where your grandkids can date sexy successful celebrities without even needing to dress well? I would like to develop that kind of imprimatur in my lifetime.

Step 1: Build a fortune.

PJ Kennedy (born 1858, Great-Great grandfather to the kid we're talking about in this thread) established the Kennedy fortune via business acumen (bunch of bars, some liquor importing, mining interests, etc). His son, Joe Kennedy Sr., expanded on this and made the Kennedy fortune truly massive (again, lots of liquor involved as well as finance/real estate).

This likely wouldn't have been possible without his father, PJ, breaking the mold of the poor Irish Catholic immigrant and establishing the small fortune he had for his own kids to build on (his parents were straight out of Ireland and he was the first Kennedy to get a formal education). Joe went on to build enough to last the entire family for generations, and he set up an extremely elaborate network of trusts to ensure that it would last-there is likely still plenty remaining for Connor's generation.

Money also allows the family to benefit top universities, ensuring their descendants' attendance for decades to come. This is a crucial factor if you want to accomplish the two additional steps I'm going to describe in a second.
You need a solid foundation of wealth before you can move forward and establish any dynasty. This is the first (and arguably the most crucial) step.

Oh, and don't be too concerned about how you get this money. As Samseau noted, there was a shady element to the way Joe Kennedy built his fortune, and I wouldn't be surprised if his father dealt in a few shadows as well (that was typical of the day, especially when it came to liquor). If it makes you wealthy and you can finagle your way out of any culpability for it, it'll do. That's the rule they followed, and you may need to follow it to if you'd like to achieve that level of success.

Step 2: Marry well.

PJ married into the Hickey family. You probably won't know them, but they were established, prosperous Bostonites at the time, PJ's wife the daughter of one of the city's more prosperous businessmen.
Their only son, Joe, married a Fitzgerald, daughter of one of the most powerful Irish politicians in the country at the time, John Fitzgerald.

This does two things:
A). It makes Step 1 much easier-you can build a larger fortune with the wealth of two families better than you can build with just one. Some of her father's wealth was bolted onto his own.
B). It gives your kids a leg up. They descend from two successful lines as opposed to one, and can benefit from the wealth and connections of both. Their pedigree is much stronger.

Also...

Step 2B: Marry your daughters very well.

Feminist talking points notwithstanding, the bottomline is that the men are going to be the principle loadberers when it comes to carrying the pedigree of the name forward. If they can have some political success in their own right, then that's fine (it is a bonus), but they do not need to do much so long as the men they marry come from a solid pedigree. Their children will still count towards your legacy, even if they're not carrying your name. Marrying well will keep their pedigrees and financial status strong.

Step 3: Get into politics.

The first two steps make this much easier to do. This is where the real power is, and once you've got the money and the pedigree you can make a real go for it (those are the things that really win elections).

PJ Kennedy started off by converting his popularity in his Boston neighborhood to a long stint in the Massachusetts State Legislature. Soon, he was hanging out with the state's democratic elite and holding a number of influential appointed positions at the state level.
This is what helped to get the Kennedy name into the realm of the power elite-his son, Joseph, used that political cache (along with the wealth and pedigree inherited from his father and mother) to put himself in a powerful political realm, becoming chairman of the SEC and Ambassador to the UK.

Joe, having taken the next step up from his father (remember PJ held state power, Joe moved up and held some Federal power), then proceeded to groom his sons to take the final step-national high office, targeting the Senate and, ultimately, the Presidency.
He was successful-John became president, Robert and Ted both Senators (his first son and namesake was supposed to take the lead for the presidency, but died in WW2).
His daughters also generally married well (Eunice to highly accomplished Sargeant Shriver of the establishment Shriver clan, Patricia to an accomplished actor, and Jean married a financier but actually had a decent political career in her own right).

At this point, the dynasty was largely set. It took about three generations to get running, but Joe's sons cemented it firmly into the foundation of the American elite, as did his money. They're cruising now-no more climbing left for them to do at the top of the American pyramid.

Aside from these three steps, some careful image cultivation aided things: JFK just happened to be very charismatic and thus garnered a sort of celebrity status, as did his wife. This added a large measure of fame to the already phenomenal pedigree the Kennedys had built, and created the whole "Camelot"/American royalty idea. Some of the marriages to celebrities enhanced this (I already mentioned Patricia, but Eunice's daughter's marriage to Schwarzenegger is another example). This gave the Kennedy name some popular cache that some other very well established families (ex: Taft, Forbes, Udall, Weld, Bush, etc) do not have. The Roosevelts probably come the closest, along with the Vanderbilts.

How can you do this?

Tough call. If you didn't get in on the ground floor or lack ancestors who did so, it is tough to replicate this in the modern USA. Things aren't quite as fluid as they've been in the past-on the contrary, the established elite have just been getting richer and established tighter controls, making it harder to replicate what they did before and easier for them to stay on top.

Marrying into it would be the most effective way, but not any old Joe can do that. If you're not white, not affluent/famous, and not a graduate of an elite university, this will be tough. These folks generally only get with their own.

You may have a better chance of pulling this off in another society. This could be done by marrying into another nation's elite, and becoming a part of it yourself (this would require some serious connections on your part), or by establishing yourself in another country, building some sizable wealth (enough to make you a one percenter there) and then following the model listed above from step 1, starting from scratch and hoping that your children/grandchildren will cement your dynasty the way Joe, JFK, Robert and Ted did for PJ. This way, your descendants can occupy a role similar to that of the Kennedys here in a smaller pond, wielding similar power within their playing field.

Odds are long either way, obviously, but there you have it.

Post: #21

Her face annoys me. Of course I would fuck her, but something about her face makes me want to slap the shit out of it.

Post: #22

Like someone wrote earlier, she's gaming him. This kid is probably being groomed to be president one day. All both have to do is not fuck it up.

Post: #23

(08-16-2012 12:00 AM)houston Wrote:  Her face annoys me. Of course I would fuck her, but something about her face makes me want to slap the shit out of it.

You know, you look at certain women celebs and have heard them talk and it's easy to see how they'd be in the sack.

Angelina Jolie -- she'd fuck you into oblivion.
Jennifer Lopez -- she'd grind that ass into you like it was a bulldozer.
Megan Fox -- Limp dishrag -- expects you to do all the work.

Taylor? Hard to tell. She'd either be an energizer bunny or one of those "be gentle, be slow" types.

Post: #24

(08-16-2012 12:09 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 12:00 AM)houston Wrote:  Her face annoys me. Of course I would fuck her, but something about her face makes me want to slap the shit out of it.

You know, you look at certain women celebs and have heard them talk and it's easy to see how they'd be in the sack.

Angelina Jolie -- she'd fuck you into oblivion.
Jennifer Lopez -- she'd grind that ass into you like it was a bulldozer.
Megan Fox -- Limp dishrag -- expects you to do all the work.

Taylor? Hard to tell. She'd either be an energizer bunny or one of those "be gentle, be slow" types.

I think she'd like to get slapped, choked, and fucked in the ass. You can see it in her eyes. But then again I pretty much think that about every girl.

Post: #25

Some of you guys don't seem to understand the power of their family name. It is the only name in this country to be associated with royalty. That boy has had women on his nuts since the first hairs sprouted from them. His game is about smacking bitches off his nuts no matter how hot they are. Now don't get me wrong, he'll let a girl on his nuts from time to time, and keep her there until she does her job. But he's only going to select girls who won't cause drama and scandal.

He chooses to allow her into his circle. She's his celebrity play toy.