Post: #76

(03-22-2012 09:19 PM)Riker Wrote:  My friend that gets laid the least is actually a cool dude. Like he's really private and doesn't talk much about sex, its hard for him to express himself in that regard. He'll never talk about how nice it would be to bang a particular girl. He's straight and likes girls but doesn't have them as a priority supposedly. He says he wants more girls in his life but he doens't really do much about it but he doesn't seem depressed about it either. Its weird like he is asexual? He's 25 and all he has are 2 or 3 makeouts, a few blowjobs from his first and only girlfriend when he was 18 and one time his friend asked him to go to the whore house with him and he had sex with a hooker that one time.

Its kind of weird, even his brothers and other people sometimes wonder about it, makes it almost seem like its repressed and he'll go postal but then you talk to him and he's super cool, chill, smart, dedicated, has hobbies, totally normal above average looking dude that could definitely pickup but he just won't.

He's said a few times he's picky and he doesn't really think its that important for him. Its all a little weird to me.

I spent a lot of time like this from ages 16-25. In my case it was lack of confidence from being blown out by nasty bitches a handful of times. Maybe a bit of 'waiting for the right one' too.

Post: #77

(04-19-2012 02:55 PM)liquiddrewl Wrote:  I spent a lot of time like this from ages 16-25. In my case it was lack of confidence from being blown out by nasty bitches a handful of times. Maybe a bit of 'waiting for the right one' too.

Liquiddrewl how did you get past that period? Did you find the 'right one' or just say fuck it

Post: #78

(04-19-2012 07:38 PM)rozayINTL Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 02:55 PM)liquiddrewl Wrote:  I spent a lot of time like this from ages 16-25. In my case it was lack of confidence from being blown out by nasty bitches a handful of times. Maybe a bit of 'waiting for the right one' too.

Liquiddrewl how did you get past that period? Did you find the 'right one' or just say fuck it

Bumpin this to respond to you....I got through it by joining iwforums, reading 'ladder theory', finally realizing that I could still get ass by trying and byimproving myself.

Post: #79

My friend that gets laid the least:

Is obese with no motivation to lose weight.
Has poor fashion sense (thinks wearing black glittery t-shirts on a fat body or even in general is cool).
Has poor grooming habits.
Thinks he has game. He's a funny guy who can easily be the center of attention, but falls flat when it comes to seducing.
Clings to his fraternity days where he slayed pussy like a king.
Dated a girl for 7 years, paid for her abortion after she was impregnated by a random dude she slept with during a month break they took, stayed with her for years after that.
Goes to stripclubs a few nights a week, has some of the lowest standards of any guy I've seen.
Thought game mostly didn't work when we met until he watched me go through a few dozen women over a year.

But eh, he's still a buddy of mine.

Post: #80

I have friends that straight play videos games and smoke weed all day.
But we still go out and party. So I don't claim those as characteristic of a person not getting laid

The main trait. Is the friends that I have that drink to the point that they aren't effective.
A couple drinks is one thing..But I've only met one person in my life that has a positive score card when It comes to being drunk and getting laid.
Everyone else simply thinks they are superman..but dont realize they are post accident superman..

Post: #81

I have 2 that don't ever get laid and here is what they are like:

1. Extremely socially awkward - they mumble, lack eye contact, aren't engaged in the conversation, have a sense of humor that only appeals to them and their closest friends, dress out of style.

2. balding - not that this is a bad thing at all (heck Im thinning out on top as well) but they wear it horribly. they try and conceal rather than going with the flow

3. Extremely reclusive - they both stick to their homes and only leave when big group of us are going out. They will never go out on their own and are perfectly fine being couped up in the house all day long

4. Scronny/unhealthy looking - neither works out or does any physical activity. They look like they could be snapped in half with one hand

5. Horrible Hygiene - this only applies to one of them but his hygiene is awful. Breath stinks, body odor, dirty clothes, poor grooming

6. Creeper vibe - around women, they both manage to get the same evaluation - "he's so creepy!!"

7. Both are broke and still rely on parents to support them

I am sure all of the above items are interrelated but one guy is 23 the other is 27. The 23 year old, I am certain is a virgin and the other guy has had sex with 3 women in his life, all horribly ugly and one was paid.

I feel for these guys and have offered what limited knowledge I can but they are lost causes.

Post: #82

I've got a few friends who never gets laid. One of them is morbidly obese, he'd probably be fine if he dropped about 200 pounds. The other one is all mental.

He's probably 5 foot 8, but he lets his lack of height bother him a lot more than he should.

He works out a lot, in the span of a year he's probably put on 4-5lbs more muscle than I have. He pushes himself real hard in the gym and he never listens to my weightlifting advice because we fundamentally disagree with our weightlifting philosophies. He just wants to look good, I'd rather be strong as a bear without disgusting amounts of hypertrophy. As a result, he's packed on some pounds and he's got himself a pot belly in his early 20's. I, on the other hand, look pretty lithe so I get more attention from the girls on campus.

He constantly bitches about how he doesn't get laid. I showed him Roosh's book but he's all like "It just boils down to confidence". Big deal. Attitude is a lot of things, but it isn't talking to a homely 6 for four hours in a night and wondering why you aren't getting any.

He tried to get with my ex after I broke up with her and failed. He's invested way more into her than I ever did, which is sad.

He buys drinks for girls at the bar. Lots of drinks.

He puts girls on pedestals and his mother was a bitchy Catholic.

Post: #83

You know what, Hannibal? That's what I hate the most about people who dismiss stuff like Roosh's book. They're incredibly vain. They can't even admit to themselves that they suck when everyone else around them knows it. And that's why they aren't ever going to get anywhere. Part of making an effort and succeeding is getting over your own game denial.

Post: #84

Update: My friend who gets laid less is now dating a commited guy just for fun...

Seems that there is hope for everyone.

Post: #85

Got friend, hes 23, he gave up university after 3 years, and now he's sitting in front of the computer 20h/ a day. Instead of meeting new girls in real life he's more into trolling some chicks on steam with probably fake pictures. That dumb-ass is even buying them games from steam so he and the girl can play together. Last time he told me he got a new girlfriend, i asked when i can meet her, than he answered that shes a virtual one, from USA, they met on steam. I was like . That guy is hopeless

Post: #86

The guy that works as a bartender in a caffe I go to often. He has a curly long hair that would look good on a woman (yuck), he talks and walks effeminate (I honestly thought he was gay), always talks with attention whores at the table, thinks he knows how to get women. He's your classic friendzone beta.

Another guy that goes with me to college. He acts as if he knows how women work, but whenever he's in a club, he literally shrinks so much, he could as well put up a sign that says "free personal space here". When I try to find him something, he says "It's not the time" or something like that, even when I show him how easy it is. He used to say that I shouldn't "disrespect" women like that, until I said to him "My way gets me laid. When was the last time YOUR way got you laid? Besides, if a woman doesn't want to be fucked by me, she can go back to searching free wallets like you.".

Honestly, I don't know why I am friends with this guys, but I guess I like watching their faces when I get lizards in front of them.

Post: #87

My oldest mate back home is the nicest guy you could ever meet, calm, friendly, a little shy but hes been beta so long I think hes starting to lose his shit. Last time I was back he had a girl in his bedroom for half an hour until she comes fucking speeding down the stairs and out the door. He told me he threw her phone against a wall because she he was texting another guy.

Post: #88

Dude who literally gets drinks bought for him by gay guys (in the daytime at coffee shops). He looks like Brad Pitt but carries himself like Michael Cera.

His game is dictated by religious beliefs, and requires the intervention and approval of his domineering parents. He's like 20 and an all-star college athlete and has never, ever pulled. When I ask him why he doesn't just go drink, talk to that chick, and tell his parents to go to hell, he makes up something about "all XXXXX chicks are ugly", or "nobody has introduced me to these girls".

You ask any girl around what they think of him and they go all puppy-eyed and say "omigod, he's SOOOOOO adORable".

Post: #89

Guy who's in his mid 20s now. Used to be really cool, athelete, slayed like fuck, but had no direction, got thrown out because his mom's a psycho bitch at 20 and never really recovered from it. Went to jobcorp, got nowhere after graduating. Shitty string of crap jobs until got hitched at 25 to a fat chick with a kid. Sad.

Also guy in his 20s, fairly intuitive and good at approaching, lots of energy, also used to get a lot of attention. he just can't seem to figure out how to pull anywhere. Like can't make the jump from charisma to sex. I'm trying to pull him into it but he's kinda digging his heels in, I guess he's afraid to "take the plunge" and let the inner alpha out; not helped since he's white and trying to slay at an HBCU. He just doesn't seem to get into social stuff, he's always off doing his own thing.

Post: #90

(09-20-2012 08:27 AM)Hades Wrote:  Dude who literally gets drinks bought for him by gay guys (in the daytime at coffee shops). He looks like Brad Pitt but carries himself like Michael Cera.

His game is dictated by religious beliefs, and requires the intervention and approval of his domineering parents. He's like 20 and an all-star college athlete and has never, ever pulled. When I ask him why he doesn't just go drink, talk to that chick, and tell his parents to go to hell, he makes up something about "all XXXXX chicks are ugly", or "nobody has introduced me to these girls".

You ask any girl around what they think of him and they go all puppy-eyed and say "omigod, he's SOOOOOO adORable".

Any chance he is gay?

Post: #91

i've got a load of friends (or more accurately friends of a good mate of mine who hang with us sometime) who based on their extreme nerdiness must be getting laid very little, even the ones who are engaged/married (perhaps especially the ones who are engaged/married, and in most cases to women who are no great shakes in the looks and body department)
these guys all went to uni with me, many are in the late 30s by now, and apart from one or two, are the greatest shower of dorks i have set eyes upon, since i foolishly joined the fantasy roleplaying(magic the gathering, etc) club at uni many moons ago
thing is, almost everyone of these guys are salt of the earth, really standup guys, would do anything for you
but the last time i was out with them as a collective, it was such a soulsucking experience that i pledged there and then to never meet them en masse again
one or two of the more single guys have some level of basic game admittedly and get makeouts every so often, but that's about as far as it goes for them
one guy in particular still dresses like it's 1985 and no matter how many times i tell him to get some new threads, he'll still turn up in some lame ass shirt and really shit unflattering jeans two sizes too big
fucking embarrassing
his saving grace is at least he's a funny fucker and this ability to make the chicks laugh is his only card, but he's the best of a bad bunch, to be fair

Post: #92

I know I'm bumping an old thread, (Tuth's post in this thread: /thread-12281.html led me here), but I think that its a good topic that should be revived. Basically (like a lot of the guys in this thread), he smokes too much weed. He used to get some pussy when we were like 16. If you always go out too high to speak to girls, and don't really meet girls in your day to day life you're (unsurprisingly) fucked.

Post: #93

27 years old, lives with his parents, plays Zelda all day, has 3 cats, action figures, and glasses. It's been years since we've hung out, I have no room in my life for pussies.

Post: #94

(07-09-2012 06:38 AM)Forza Wrote:  My oldest mate back home is the nicest guy you could ever meet, calm, friendly, a little shy but hes been beta so long I think hes starting to lose his shit. Last time I was back he had a girl in his bedroom for half an hour until she comes fucking speeding down the stairs and out the door. He told me he threw her phone against a wall because she he was texting another guy.

I know it's a necropost, but that sounds like an red pill awakening in progress.

Right to consider it unacceptable, wrong response, wrong that it happened in the first place.

I hope this guy has found the forum already.

Post: #95

Short ugly fat Indian guy. Insecure, fragile ego, no confidence, Napoleon complex/anger issues, beta/pedestalizing tendencies. Not a FOB though. Lost his virginity at age 27 in 2010 to an Indian girl. Dated her for 4 months before she left him for another guy. He just hasn't tried since. He's another ethnicel in a city full of them.

Now he does have emotional issues and sure he could do better being calm, composed, and "alpha" but really his life is bound and defined by his genetic shortcomings. Given his pronounced shortness (5'3") and facial ugliness the best a guy like him could hope for is one or two looks-matched LTRs via his social circle or a looks-matched wife via the arranged marriage pipeline.

Post: #96

For people I know who get laid often and who don't get laid often (myself included), it boils down basically to lack of effort. People who try to get laid get laid. People who make excuses and don't try, don't get laid. Making excuses really is the biggest factor. Lying to yourself will harm you much more than you can even imagine.

Post: #97

Guy 1: 19 years old. Known him through a mutual long-time family friend whose social circle I've become integrated into over time. He's tall and decent-looking, but he gets almost crippling anxiety whenever he talks to girls. Literally, he will almost freeze up, Hollywood style. Guarenteed that he's never gotten laid or probably even made out with a chick. Usually sits alone at home playing FPSs while the rest of us are out getting drunk, partying, and wheeling chicks. (I can remember once he told me about how he didn't leave his house for four months because he was playing CounterStrike for something like 16 hours a day over the summer break.) Weed smoker, as well.

Guy 2: 23 years old. Know him through the same social circle as above. Good looking guy, outgoing, should have no problems with chicks. But he told me last February that after losing his virginity, that he was on a 4-year dry spell and hadn't gotten laid since. (Jesus.) I truly couldn't tell for sure what his problem was, but I think that it was a simple inability or lack of knowledge on how to properly close. Although, most of the time when he's wheeling chicks either he, or the girl, or both are under a pretty good level of intoxication, so the chick or him will pass out before they make it to sex. Also a heavy weed smoker.

Guy 3: 26(?) years old now, I think. Colleague of mine at my university. Looks like he's in his late 30s/early 40s due to early onset balding and pudginess (he's not obese, but it is a definitely noticeable gut.) Has gotten called out by multiple people for making up extravagant stories about travelling to Vegas and smashing high end+high status chicks. In his favour though, he is pretty good at holding court with chicks and making himself the centre of attention in a group with his verbal skills. The last chick I saw him dating was 20 years older than him.

HSLD

Post: #98

I have two close friends that I refuse to game with because they are absolutely horrible. Their awful style brings down the group if we're all out team gaming.

First friend : To start he has no approach and no patience. When we would club when we were younger, he would go straight for the hail Mary and tell a girl "Oh wow, you're so beautiful. You're prettiest girl in this place. Please give me your # etc." That would generally be met with ridicule since he would only pull this out on high 8's-10's. He has very weak conversational skills and no concept of flirting. He has absolutely no ability to read body language either. Also he lacks some class and can be inappropriate. We went to a really chic super club this summer. He drove and as we pulled up to the parking he yelled at some hot girls that were going into the place "HEY GIRLS CAN I PUT IT IN YOUR ASS?". I told him how this wasn't cool and shit like that scares chicks more than anything. His reply was "What are you talking about, girls like that." I tried to get to get the girls inside the club, but they weren't having it.

When I would try to explain basic game to him and how to do it, he would dismiss me because he has a big ego. He has now completely given up on meeting women in bars/clubs because those girls "play games" and he doesn't have time for that. If he does meet a chick, it's through okcupid or POF and I don't know if that's going well for him either.

My other friend isn't as clueless. His only Achilles heal is that he has no patience whatsoever. He'll approach a chick, do really good for the first few exchanges, and then hits them with "Hey do you want to come back to my condo and smoke a joint?" I've seen him pull this hundreds of times and it's only worked once.

I love them both, but I can't be gaming when they're around. If someone on your team is acting like a jackass, they can bring down your value. That's why I've created a group within my circle of friends who are all stone cold killers.

Post: #99

hes married

Post: #100

Friend 1: 27 years old, italian, still lives at home with his parents in the suburbs.
Really smart and social guy who can hold a conversation but no idea how to flirt, mostly through lack of practice. He's not a bad looking guy but doesn't help himself with no real style and ultra nerdy hobbies like being into radio (making his own antenna, bouncing signals off the moon, etc). Also he refuses to even consider banging a girl he doesn't have feelings for which leads to him being very intense which scares the crap out of girls. Couple all that with standards which are too high for where he sits in terms of game, looks, status, etc and I'm pretty sure he's still a virgin.

All my other friends who never had any luck with girls turned out to be gay. It's not that they had bad personalities or style, it's that they would never even try. A couple would pretend, talking the talk, but they never walked the walk. Then eventually they all came out as gay.