Post: #26

Huh. I thought Aquaman was the most effeminate.

Post: #27

Hell No.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohMNGeYGg6w

Post: #28

I defy any of you to tell me Silver Surfer is not the gayest of them all. He sneezes glitter.

Post: #29

(06-03-2012 08:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  This is the line that gets parroted by the gay activists so much that people have just accepted it without question. The more homosexuality is promoted and seen as "normal", the more people will want to experiment with it. I'm sure you know that in ancient Greece men viewed boys as the objects of sexual desire more than women. Were they all born gay? This same thing still goes on even some of the most conservative parts of the middle east even now. Quit buying into this lie that it only happens when people are born gay. The fact that it goes on so rampantly in prison is proof that homosexuality can be learned.

I also agree with the above poster that a gay comic hero is ridiculous. A gay man with his effeminate lisp and mannerisms is the anti-thesis of masculinity and alpha. So why are they trying to push this shit on kids as something normal? I expect gays to be all rah-rah about it, but it's disappointing to see so many heteros drinking the kool-aid.

Those guys were closeted homos. Even then, they weren't doing that because they enjoyed males. They are using gay sex as a way to show that they have power over the young boys or prisoners. Ironic you say that people will experiment with gay sex if its promoted, yet in the middle east, its on the opposite end of promotion, yet those guys are still banging little boys.

I don't see why a gay comic hero is ridiculous. Effeminate lisp and mannerisms is such a BS stereotype. Plenty of gay guys aren't your stereotypical flaming homo. Look at Omar from the Wire. He doesn't like no stereotype to me, not to mention no one would say its ridiculous that he is a good guy because he is gay.

Post: #30

Post: #31

(06-04-2012 02:03 AM)Rosca Wrote:  

No one can tell me that this gay guy can't be a hero

Post: #32

(06-03-2012 07:53 PM)nicolas Wrote:  People don't just experiment into Gay sex. Gay people don't choose to be gay. No amount of reading a comic book is going to make a kid turn gay.

I don't want to hijack this fine thread about gay comic books, and I know that there was just another thread where gayness was talked about. But here it is:

If people don't choose to be gay, please explain the 42 or so (ok exactly 42) women that I've talked into lesbian sex. Did I bring out some genetics or am I just a good salesman?

How do you account for meth and heroin addicted males that suck dick for drug money? After a long time of doing this they then become gay. Are the genes coming out or is the meth fucking up their brain? Do they just need their drugs?

When some gays adopt a kid, how come that kid is more likely to be gay? I mean, it's adopted, and has no genetic link to the gay parents. Do you really expect me to believe that two gay people just so happened to adopt a kid that also just so happened to have the gay gene?

Last question: If the gays aren't trying to push some weirdo agenda why is the T in LGBT? Cutting your balls off to become a woman has nothing to do with being Lesbian, Gay, or Bi-Sexual. Why are they throwing the tranny's in?

I say you should be allowed to fuck whoever or whatever you want. If some guy wants to stick his dick in a Dustbuster, marry it, and leave it his house when he dies, so be it.

Just don't tell me it's natural. I'm a grown man, I see through the bullshit.

The problem is, I got neices and nephews that aren't grown. Comic books and all this other gay shit being pushed on them pisses me off.

Aloha!

Post: #33

(06-04-2012 02:21 AM)nicolas Wrote:  

(06-04-2012 02:03 AM)Rosca Wrote:  

No one can tell me that this gay guy can't be a hero

It's called television. I don't understand why people get all fucked up about fictional entertainment. Or try to prove a point with it. It's all make-believe. You may as well say videogames make people more violent.

If it does turn out that gays in comic books turn more boys gay, then good. That leaves more females for me.

Post: #34

So, it seems like this, and many other threads around here boil down to an argument about what it means to be alpha. This is kind of like our version of Godwin's law.

So, let's cut to the chase.

There's the old school concept of the Alpha tough guy vs. alpha is any guy who isn't beta (he is isn't stuck in a oneitis and has options with women).

The later encompasses the former, but not visa versa.

I'd say that the guys who push for the old school alpha are more MRA than game. Game is no-holds-barred; you do what needs to be done to get what you want. There are no rules except those which work.

You could be a dick sucking flamboyant flaming retard, but if you have girls throwing themselves at you, then, game-wise, you are more alpha than the strongman who gets no play. I think we can all agree on this.

I'd be curious to see a statistic on the types of guys that get into game. I wonder how many of them are old-school alpha jocks vs. how many are guys who were rejected/nerd/dork or sigma types.

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Anyway, I believe that romance (straight/game/whatever) has pretty much been left out of comics, accept in very simple forms, because comics tend to be read mostly by kids who are in the midst of developing their morality (I got into comics when I was 8), are not yet exploring sexuality. If they are going to put more mature themes like physical intimacy in comics (straight or gay), I'm not sure it's appropriate for any young kids to read.

When I got deeper in to being a teenager, I stopped reading superhero comicbooks. I think it's very interesting that there are so many mature males who read superhero comics.

Post: #35

(06-04-2012 03:06 AM)Kona Wrote:  

(06-03-2012 07:53 PM)nicolas Wrote:  People don't just experiment into Gay sex. Gay people don't choose to be gay. No amount of reading a comic book is going to make a kid turn gay.

I don't want to hijack this fine thread about gay comic books, and I know that there was just another thread where gayness was talked about. But here it is:

If people don't choose to be gay, please explain the 42 or so (ok exactly 42) women that I've talked into lesbian sex. Did I bring out some genetics or am I just a good salesman?

How do you account for meth and heroin addicted males that suck dick for drug money? After a long time of doing this they then become gay. Are the genes coming out or is the meth fucking up their brain? Do they just need their drugs?

When some gays adopt a kid, how come that kid is more likely to be gay? I mean, it's adopted, and has no genetic link to the gay parents. Do you really expect me to believe that two gay people just so happened to adopt a kid that also just so happened to have the gay gene?

Last question: If the gays aren't trying to push some weirdo agenda why is the T in LGBT? Cutting your balls off to become a woman has nothing to do with being Lesbian, Gay, or Bi-Sexual. Why are they throwing the tranny's in?

I say you should be allowed to fuck whoever or whatever you want. If some guy wants to stick his dick in a Dustbuster, marry it, and leave it his house when he dies, so be it.

Just don't tell me it's natural. I'm a grown man, I see through the bullshit.

The problem is, I got neices and nephews that aren't grown. Comic books and all this other gay shit being pushed on them pisses me off.

Aloha!

1. I'm talking about gay people, not lesbians. It's been common knowledge for a while that women's sexuality is fluid. It can change throughout the years. That doesn't happen with men.

2. Drug addicts suck dick because they want money. They would do anything for money. That doesn't mean they are gay. Where is the evidence that drug addicts turn gay because they suck dicks for money? All it means is that they are a whore to their addiction. If you sucked a dick to save your family's life, that doesn't make you gay.

3. Where do you get this notion that adopted kids to gay parents turn gay? Where is the evidence for that? I haven't found a study where it shows a clear link between gay parents and kids turning out gay. Here is a passage from the American Psychiatric Association on the issue:

Quote:Children raised in gay or lesbian households do not show any greater incidence of homosexuality or gender identity issues than other children.

Link

4. What do you define as natural? If a good portion people have turned out gay throughout history and they didn't choose it, why is that unnatural? If you are born gay, doesn't that make it natural?

Post: #36

(06-04-2012 12:25 PM)nicolas Wrote:  4. What do you define as natural? If a good portion people have turned out gay throughout history and they didn't choose it, why is that unnatural? If you are born gay, doesn't that make it natural?

No, it means nature assigned you the wrong sexual preference. Nature makes accidents all the time.

Post: #37

(06-04-2012 01:43 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-04-2012 12:25 PM)nicolas Wrote:  4. What do you define as natural? If a good portion people have turned out gay throughout history and they didn't choose it, why is that unnatural? If you are born gay, doesn't that make it natural?

No, it means nature assigned you the wrong sexual preference. Nature makes accidents all the time.

Is it really an accident if anywhere from 3-10% of the population is gay? Would you say being a redhead is an accident?

Post: #38

(06-04-2012 01:46 PM)nicolas Wrote:  

(06-04-2012 01:43 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-04-2012 12:25 PM)nicolas Wrote:  4. What do you define as natural? If a good portion people have turned out gay throughout history and they didn't choose it, why is that unnatural? If you are born gay, doesn't that make it natural?

No, it means nature assigned you the wrong sexual preference. Nature makes accidents all the time.

Is it really an accident if anywhere from 3-10% of the population is gay? Would you say being a redhead is an accident?

I don't know if I agree bro...

A blue cat can still mate.

A spotted cow can still mate with a brown cow.

A redhead can still mate.

A albino from Africa can still mate.

Different TYPES of one species is not natures mistake.

Creating people/animals whom can't pursue the most important thing ALL species do (reproduce) is a mistake.

Indeed nature is far from perfect but it always corrects its self. If you have faulty traits then nature takes care of this so they do not get passed on. All species are supposed to grow and prosper to the level that next level is better than the last - ultimately evolving into more complex and intricate species.

Post: #39

(06-04-2012 01:46 PM)nicolas Wrote:  

(06-04-2012 01:43 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-04-2012 12:25 PM)nicolas Wrote:  4. What do you define as natural? If a good portion people have turned out gay throughout history and they didn't choose it, why is that unnatural? If you are born gay, doesn't that make it natural?

No, it means nature assigned you the wrong sexual preference. Nature makes accidents all the time.

Is it really an accident if anywhere from 3-10% of the population is gay? Would you say being a redhead is an accident?

Good challenge. I'm sure the first person to be born as a redhead was seen as abnormality until enough of them were spawned to make them a sizable part of the population. I would also say that there's nothing about being a redhead that makes them any less likely to reproduce and survive than someone of any other hair color(unless they lived near the equator where their rates of skin cancer would be higher). But being gay is fundamentally different. You are talking about being assigned the wrong sexual preference. Does it make any sense that gay men would have sperm? What is sperm supposed to be used for? Think that over for a moment and then it starts becoming obvious that homosexuality is some form of an error in nature. I don't care if people are gay, they are what they are. What I oppose is people trying to normalize that behavior.

And btw, there's no way in hell the upper limit is 10%. Maybe in San Francisco but not the entire average of the country. More like 2-5%.

Post: #40

This is just an irrelevant publicity stunt. Kids don't even read comics anymore- they are too busy playing videogames.

Post: #41

"You could be a dick sucking flamboyant flaming retard, but if you have girls throwing themselves at you, then, game-wise, you are more alpha than the strongman who gets no play. I think we can all agree on this."


WRONG !!!. ALPHA by definition means HETEREOSEXUAL.

Stop trying to pervert our thread. Now a GAY can be ALPHA .....ridiculous .......

Post: #42

Defining the Alpha Male
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/09/1...lpha-male/

Post: #43

(06-04-2012 01:46 PM)nicolas Wrote:  Is it really an accident if anywhere from 3-10% of the population is gay? Would you say being a redhead is an accident?

Two separate issues.

Being redheaded is genetic. It provides sexual selection advantages --look at how many women dye their hair red. To achieve what they don't have naturally.

The 10% number comes from Kinsey in his 1948 book Sexual Behavior in the Human Male. The data was gathered by interviewing prison convicts, and there's a lot of other problems with Kinsey's work if you're trying to map prison population percentages to the population at large. He did successfully show that there's a lot more variation from the culturally dominant frame of condoned sexuality than people had known. But no one believes his extrapolations to the population at large are credible.

A 1993 Janus Report estimated that nine percent of men and five percent of women had more than "occasional" homosexual relationships, without any actual data to back it up, they pulled a number out of the air. Likewise The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force estimates three to eight percent of both sexes... without any actual data to back it up, they just made up a number. The Family Research Report says "around 2-3% of men, and 2% of women, are homosexual or bisexual." The 2000 U.S. Census Bureau found that homosexual couples constitute less than 1% of American households.

There is no definitive way of establishing homosexuality. We operate entirely on "they say so" as the only standard for determination. Which, as Elizabeth Warren has shown with gandering preferences for native indians heritage, is no standard at all.

Just go to any Gay Pride parade. The vast majority of people are heterosexual couples out waving rainbow flags for the day, but never living the lifestyle. How many of these dorks would claim to be gay in surveys to "even the numbers"? Most of them. They even think saying they're gay is a DHV to members of the opposite sex!



(But contrawise, in countries where homosexuality is illegal, how many gays will claim to be heterosexual to avoid prosecution? All of them, if they have a brain.)

The 1980s American model of homosexuality was based on the theory of an undiscovered "gay gene" that supposedly made people "born that way", only attracted to one single sex or the other, an unchangeable orientation. The "gay gene" theory was dead on arrival and never plausible to begin with (bisexuality being the first gaping hole). Now in the age of fully mapped human chromosomes, it's not even supportable.

Post: #44

(06-04-2012 06:16 PM)kdolo Wrote:  "You could be a dick sucking flamboyant flaming retard, but if you have girls throwing themselves at you, then, game-wise, you are more alpha than the strongman who gets no play. I think we can all agree on this."


WRONG !!!. ALPHA by definition means HETEREOSEXUAL.

Stop trying to pervert our thread. Now a GAY can be ALPHA .....ridiculous .......

I always say that Gay kats are off the charts. They are beyond alpha.

I have had to study this group for a class back in the day. Many Gay dudes have way higher test levels then strait dudes, are more aggressive and still do hetro shit like chase money and power. And also ** Gay dudes largely have bigger cocks then strait dudes and have higher and more aggressive sex drives. They are past Alpha but this makes then train wreaks and not desirable to women at all. Women view Gay dues like ken dolls not as potential mates, they will always still go after the Alpha male.

This is why you *do* find a lot of fucked up homos in jail because they are off the rails they are self-destructing and have to much shit going on to use to their advantage.

My personal opinion is that nature hard-wired them too hard and then cased them to essentially cannibalize them selves. They just chase sex and power but not for any tangible benefits. A strait man will acquire, status, wealth, and power to improve his chances at getting sex with that top fleet female to mate with. Gays don't have this desire so they just end up on a roller coaster into the abyss in nature. This is in my view natures correcting mechanism.

But I agree the numbers are inflated. They are concentrated in certain urban areas that is it.

Post: #45

(06-04-2012 06:16 PM)kdolo Wrote:  "You could be a dick sucking flamboyant flaming retard, but if you have girls throwing themselves at you, then, game-wise, you are more alpha than the strongman who gets no play. I think we can all agree on this."


WRONG !!!. ALPHA by definition means HETEREOSEXUAL.

Stop trying to pervert our thread. Now a GAY can be ALPHA .....ridiculous .......

What do you make of bi-sexual rockstars that are probably getting more pussy then most of us on this board can fathom? I guess they must be beta or something then.

Marlon Brando, infamous pussy-slayer, and the guy who they named the "wife-beater" after, confessed to having sexual relationships with men. So, I guess he wasn't alpha either.

It's even been pointed out that, in general, gay guys have more game with women than most men do.. check out that link to Heartiste.

Post: #46

The only gay alphas are the ones in prison:






The Boondocks did a hilarious spoof on this guy:

Post: #47

I have nothing against gays but to now mark them as alpha or beyond alpha sounds like bollocks to me. I won't use them as a benchmark to get girls. I don't give a fcuk how many sluts they bang, once they bang dudes, they are in a different realm.

If I have to deal with pearly white fat North Americans or corn yellow bad teethed Euros then so be it but I am not going to bugger some fellow in order to enter the Alpha realm.

Post: #48

(06-04-2012 07:58 PM)soup Wrote:  What do you make of bi-sexual rockstars that are probably getting more pussy then most of us on this board can fathom? I guess they must be beta or something then.

The origins of Alpha and Beta are from observed pecking order in primate tribes of 5-12 members, with Dunbar's Number varying with primate species. Roosh devotes most of chapter 1 of Bang to describing Alpha vs Beta. No where does he define it as "the person who has the most sex is the most alpha."

It if were simply about who has the most offers of sex, then every hot 22 year old girl would the most alpha and higher than all men. If it were simply about who actually has sex the most times, then Lisa Sparks would be the top Alpha-alpha of all.

Your Alpha Leader


Instead, women call her a slut. The more sexual partners a woman has, the lower tribal esteem the other women assign to that woman. There's no faster way down the female pecking order than for a woman to have indiscriminate sex with low status men in a way that's visible to the rest of her female tribe members.

Post: #49

All this talk about alpha yet its hard to even find a consensus on wtf this word actually means.

Defining it as guys with the most lays or taking the original meaning from animals and applying it to humans are both ridiculous IMO.

Personally i go with captain Jacks definition; alpha male is the one who puts in the most effort towards achieving his goals. So its not limited to banging lots of girls. A self-made millionaire who married his first girlfriend is alpha in this definition because he busted his ass for achieving his goal. It just happens that often times there is a correlation between success in life and number of bangs. But not neccessarily so

On topic: i dont give a shit. the movie was crap and i never read the comics.

Post: #50

Quote:2. They do not/can not reproduce

Homosexuals can reproduce if they have sex with a member of the opposite sex. Just because you are gay doesn't mean you are sterile. My best friend's Dad is gay. He got married really young because he came from an ultra-orthodox religious family and thought he would try and do the "right" thing by getting married to a woman. They had two children (both straight) before he became so miserable living a lie he got a divorce and came out of the closet. He was extremely involved in the lives of both of his children and worked with the mother to ensure they were both raised with a lot of love from both parents. My friend is a doctor and his brother is a lawyer and they both are married and have children now.