Post: #1

Anyone have experience with this, I meet a ton of beautiful women at work, and get to interact but I still have to be professional, I get a lot of flirts, but then again it could just be part of the interaction. I also don't want a crazy customer to back fire on me. I have to play all the angles, best practices and advice from experience would be great.

Post: #2

I work in an adult store (porn dvd and porn cinema) and have banged customers and flirted with tons of female clientele. I guess i`m in a more uniques situation than yours - but tread carefully, like you say a backfire from a customer could cause you grief and cost you your job.

Post: #3

I have another phone number I give out to them so they don't have my personal one Google Voice. I had one today who said I'm not interested you're very disrespectful blah blah blah, but luckily I put it all on my google voice. So I can just deny it if it comes back.

Post: #4

Very tricky messing with co-workers. Can backfire in your face badly. Many things can happen like the woman claiming sexual harassment etc. Work functions where everyone goes out and gets pissed seem to be the exception to the rule where an anything goes mentality applies where a couple of co-workers shag and blame it on the booze the next day. As a general rule I don't shit where I work. I value my job more than just a one night stand. You should consult your big head when weighing up all the options in a scenario like this.

Post: #5

Not co workers, Customers.

Post: #6

Tell me about it gentlemen. I work in a professional industry where I work with the same co-workers every day and the rest of the people I come in contact with are patients (some very attractive, surprisingly). I don't know about how to get around this without risking it all.

Post: #7

Customers, not co-workers, Customers.

You said you have another phone number, thats even better. I don't see any problem. Sure, you might get some shit from someone eventually, but whats the worst that could happen?

Post: #8

How much do you care about not getting fired?

Post: #9

Of course I don't want to get fired.

Post: #10

Well, getting fired is a possibility. Maybe you can deny it if there's one complaint since you're using google voice, but if multiple girls start complaining it gets harder and harder to deny. Then again, you might get some pussy. It's up to you to decide whether it's worth the risk.

Post: #11

Take coworkers. I flirt with my coworkers all the time. It's just the way I, as a man, relate to women. You can flirt with grandmothers and toddlers. It's harmless, and almost never sexual, though often a little adversarial. The way I see it, you can only get in trouble if you're doing it wrong, assuming you don't work directly with her, and can avoid her if need be. You flirt with her, maybe over several days. After you've built some comfort, and she's laughing at your game, maybe introduce some light kino, you say something like, "Hey, I'm gonna be checking out this new bar blah blah, if you want to join me." Might want to get drunker than usual so you both have plausible deniability. As for a customer, as long as you don't piss her off enough to make her tell your boss that she will no longer patronize your business because of you, you should be safe.

I think if you're socially savvy, it shouldn't be a problem, as long as you don't have supervisors breathing down your neck when you're macking. There's like a 80% chance your supervisor WILL get jealous - either it's some game-hating dude, or some busted aging woman who can't stand seeing you macking cute girls.

Post: #12

I worked at a small, indy bookstore in my late teens and early 20's. Used to flirt with any woman who walked in there. It was a blast. I really can't see any downsides to it, if you work in a casual enviroment in which it's normal and accepted to chat with customers.

It's all down to the enviroment. You didn't say in what type of a place you work at, but if it's OK for you to crack a joke while talking with a customer, it's OK to game them.

Post: #13

(04-17-2012 07:29 PM)basilransom Wrote:  It's harmless, and almost never sexual, though often a little adversarial. The way I see it, you can only get in trouble if you're doing it wrong,

After you've built some comfort, and she's laughing at your game, maybe introduce some light kino, you say something like, "Hey, I'm gonna be checking out this new bar blah blah, if you want to join me."

Damn good post Basil. I agree he'll only have problems if he does it wrong. Banter is part of the job. A little flirting is ok. In any transaction, the more the customer is engaged and talking the more likely they are to buy, anyway. The issue is in the escalation of the customer dynamic, i.e. bridging the retail (?) conversation into the personal conversation.

Edin, I think you'll only go wrong if you push something that isn't there. If you're on the lookout for the right indicators then build on that, eventually getting to Basil's "Hey, I'm gonna be checking out this new bar blah blah, if you want to join me," you should be ok. It's harassment if they didn't want it. If they're giving you a bit of green light, try your luck, subtly.

Post: #14

Ohh man. I used to work at a gas station pumping gas after high school. Tons and tons of girls come through there. Half naked in the summer. They would give me a hit off their J and drive away. I used to bang them in the kiosk on the midnight shift. Good times

Post: #15

This is another good reason to have a job you don't give a fuck about.

Post: #16

(04-17-2012 08:34 PM)46. Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 07:29 PM)basilransom Wrote:  It's harmless, and almost never sexual, though often a little adversarial. The way I see it, you can only get in trouble if you're doing it wrong,

After you've built some comfort, and she's laughing at your game, maybe introduce some light kino, you say something like, "Hey, I'm gonna be checking out this new bar blah blah, if you want to join me."

Damn good post Basil. I agree he'll only have problems if he does it wrong. Banter is part of the job. A little flirting is ok. In any transaction, the more the customer is engaged and talking the more likely they are to buy, anyway. The issue is in the escalation of the customer dynamic, i.e. bridging the retail (?) conversation into the personal conversation.

Edin, I think you'll only go wrong if you push something that isn't there. If you're on the lookout for the right indicators then build on that, eventually getting to Basil's "Hey, I'm gonna be checking out this new bar blah blah, if you want to join me," you should be ok. It's harassment if they didn't want it. If they're giving you a bit of green light, try your luck, subtly.

Forgot to add, at some point you're going to have a personal conversation with her, which will take you guys out of the customer-worker dynamic. That way, she won't be surprised when you eventually do ask her to hang out. It goes something like this

1. The approach (either you or she initiates conversation)
2. Banter, teasing
3. Initiate light kino - limit it to touching her arms, shoulders, upper back
4. Gradually get her to share her personal background, while keeping up the humor and teasing.
5. The soft close, of "I'm doing XXXX [something cool], you could join me."

As for #5, it could be an activity that you mentioned earlier, so it seems more natural to invite her to it. On the other hand, if it's something more banal, like drinks at a bar, it's very likely that she's only going along so that she can eventually fuck you. If you invited her say, to check out a museum, she might have little sexual interest in you and still say yes. Then she freaks out when you grab her ass as you're checking out a Monet. "I thought we were just friends!"

For a professional office environment, the kino can be a little risque, especially if you don't seem like a naturally 'touchy' person. But it is natural for alpha men to touch others, and people accept that. If you're in sales, you'll have a little more leeway.

The guys you hear getting accused of sexual harassment are usually guilty of:

1. Being lame.
2. Not taking the hint that she doesn't dig you.
3. Increasingly sexual responses to her in the face of rejection.
4. Cornering her in a situation which makes her feel like she goin' get raped.
5. Asking her out too directly.

While I may be missing some here, I'm sure you could draw together a big sample of sexual harassment cases, and in most of them, you'd find very basic mistakes that led to the woman filing charges.

While I think sexual harassment is bullshit, I doubt many solid players get in trouble over it. Move slow and smooth, keep everything out in the open, give her the option to back out politely, and you should be good. You definitely do not want to run "make the ho say no" game here. Probably no direct game either - you need 'plausible deniability' in case shit hits the fan.

Post: #17

well ive had success working at a shoe shop for women, the amount of different girls you speak to and flirt with everyday is madness.

theres no approach anxiety after working here for nearly a year

Post: #18

(04-16-2012 11:39 PM)wsidemd Wrote:  Tell me about it gentlemen. I work in a professional industry where I work with the same co-workers every day and the rest of the people I come in contact with are patients (some very attractive, surprisingly). I don't know about how to get around this without risking it all.

Depends how much you value your career and your license. Not only might you be violating your field's code of ethics, you might be in direct violation of your licensing board, and if the patient chick sues, presses charges, or files a complaint...your license could be as good as gone as well as money and your career.

Then again if you aren't in a position where professional ethics/licensing board policies apply you might be able to work something out...but still risk your job.

Post: #19

i dont think ive ever heard attractive females at the jobs i've had. hopefully thats about to change.

Post: #20

this hasnt even been an option at the jobs ive had...past and present.

the few comments ive made toward the 'female' coworkers at my current position have resulted in some hypersensitive reactions from them.

you guys with attractive women that you either work with as colleagues or as customers are lucky you can pull these moves.

Post: #21

I once sold women's shoes at a high end department store.

Got into this Russian chick-







I think that about sums up my opinion about it.


Be careful, be smart. Set up meets outside work, then they are no longer customers. Remove that factor, as you have to anyway, and you should be in the clear.

Post: #22

OP, depends what type of store you work at. Usually you can bang anything in any circles, as long as you are smooth about it. Why don't you try light flirting, any girl interested will show small signs of being into you, go from there.