Post: #51

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senator anning is absolutely based. couldnt have put the message across in better words. i foresee the backlash against him will be brutal as usual.

Post: #52

Shit, just saw this checking my emails, first thing I did was log in to Roosh. Honestly, I have always been surprised stuff like this has not happened sooner.

Post: #53

(03-15-2019 02:30 AM)Fortis Wrote:  This was a bad move. Killing unarmed worshippers in a mosque. What the hell was he thinking? This will only further curtail the rights of citizens in White nations.

true, but i wonder how come attacks made by muslims never curtail the rights of muslims citizens in white nations but actually achieve the opposite result.

(03-15-2019 03:20 AM)kazz Wrote:  I have always been surprised stuff like this has not happened sooner.

this. sooner or more frequently.

Post: #54

Yeah the video did look weird, It reminds me of the "No Russian" mission in Call of duty. He had a swagger and confidence like he did this while holding a controller. I haven't looked the guy up but he seemed a bit trained, Not SAS level or anything (although maybe)

THIS could cause huge problems, they'll blame video games, movies, governments, etc etc.

Post: #55

I was concerned because the shooter's manifesto is named "The Great Replacement" and highlights issues discussed on forums like this.

The event will cause a huge internet censorship push which will target right-leaning media & some online communities.

Most people I know are also concerned about "demographic replacement" but advocate a totally different solution. This means things like choosing a suitable spouse, having lots of kids, being aware of what made Western culture successful, voting for conservative/libertarian parties, learning self-defense skills. It doesn't extend to proactively destroying certain groups in society based on abstract ideas like "demographic replacement". Western society was built on Christian values like love for all, and service to others, which excludes violence except in clear cases of self-defense.

The issue for me highlighted the danger of taking the "red pill" too far. If people are isolated from society and spend all day reading "red pill" philosophy or 4chan, an ordinary person can work themselves into a psychosis and go out and take extreme acts. The "red pill" shouldn't even be an ideology really, it's more of a culture of questioning the values of modern society.

The event has prompted me to become less idealistic and focus on keeping brotherly love front & center in my heart. Ideologies are of limited value. We are constantly asked to choose between darkness, and the light. The courage to choose the light is what counts most.

Post: #56

Its disgusting to see bunch of white nationalists on this forum trying to spin this, claiming "oh this shoulda happen earlier", and showing absolutely no sympathy to the victims.

What a bunch of little incels condoning mindless violence against innocent people. No wonder white women became the sluts they are today, and the white birth rates went down the drain. You folks are an insult to the idea of being "men".....

Celebrating acts of desperation, hopelessness, and cowardice is not what traditional, proper men would do.

RIP to the victims.

I hope that piece of sh*t is tortured to death in jail. A slow, humiliating death, that is.

Post: #57

Im surprised it didn't happen sooner was a statement. Not Fuck yeah, kill em all I wish it had of happened sooner.

Post: #58

How any of you guys can see any kind legitimacy to these people's actions I'll never understand.

No matter where you sit on the political spectrum or what you think about the culture wars, etc, surely we can all agree that violence against unarmed civilians is not the answer to anything?

This kind of attack achieves nothing except serving to further radicalise people. It's not going to achieve anything positive or change anything for the better.

Absolutely disgusted by today's attack and thoughts with all the victims, their friends and family.

Post: #59

RIP to the victims.

If Mossad were in Dunedin then it was probably to get access to the 5 Eyes intelligence sharing between Canada US Britain Australia and New Zealand which is the supposedly the most cooperation between any high level intelligence network in the world. Israel may have seen New Zealand's security services as more of a weak link than hacking in in Washington or London. Although Im just spitballing really.

Its almost too obvious to state but the deaths of innocents just going about their daily business is of course a tragedy. I believe that this is just as bad as any Paris concert massacre. Thats my opinion. Im not for sentimentality or virtue signalling but I don't believe that this is a time for schadenfreude either. terrible what Im reading about.

I agree with the sentiments of the shooter vis a vis the business political media elites who are so keen on changing the populations of their own countries whilst drawing up the drawbridge around their own castles ( college applications et al.) I of course don't think that they should suffer violence but I do think that they should be made to feel the heat of scrutiny and protest. I personally know people involved in these elites. They are currently living the life of Reilly.

Candace Owens as a radicalising influence? In what fucking world?

I do NOT expect strong leadership from the NZ PM who got pregnant as soon as she got into office, of course I may be wrong.

It will be interesting to see how the Muslim world reacts globally, do they accept the condolences and support normally reserved to the victims of Jihadis? Do they dismiss those things as paper thin? Do they insist that more is done beyond candle lit vigils? Are there going to be reprisals and revenge attacks from Muslims?

Of course the likes of Tommy Robinson will come under fire as will Tucker Carlson and Sargon of Akkad and Trump and Nigel Farage and Brexit and Steven Crowder although exactly why... we'll have to wait a day or two to find out as CNN, SPLC, Media matters sift through their archaeological records.

Whilst I disagree with any schadenfreude toward the victims..

..Keep an eye on the name -Sonny Bill Williams- he will have a ton of PR around him right now.

He is probably one of the most talented Rugby players of either code to have played the game. A NZer (Samona origin) - he actually plays for Canterbury Super Rugby franchise which is based out of Christchurch.
He is a total show pony in my view. A tremendous rugby player but then he decided that he wanted to become a boxer without having much experience. Despite all the hype and the televised bouts he was actually a shit boxer and his performances were woeful. Listen to the media and the PR companies though and he was an amazing boxer.

Always keen for more attention he converted to Islam. I honestly think that it was the most plastic conversion in history. He seems to have demonstrated zero understanding about Islam. All the out of work islanders in Oz that I knew loved him for his pre-eminence in sport and thought it was even cooler that he became a Muslim ( a big F** you to whitey) despite the fact that they had no interest in the religion themselves.

He actually ran out once wearing tape all over his ANZ bank sponsor logos. Why? Oh, Islam was against usury.
So rather than having a debate between his handlers and his corporate sponsored employer or other members of his team - he kept quiet, trained in the logos all week, month and year and then stealthily had tape put on his chest and ran out whilst of course his PR people highlighted the fact to the watching media.
Hey presto everybody agreed that he was very religious and gave him a special shirt.

For me that was attention whoring on his part.

he has already gone on Twitter shedding a literal and proverbial tear.

https://twitter.com/SonnyBWilliams/statu...9828785152

He will have found himself thrust into the spotlight perhaps but it doesn't surprise me that he was in a hurry to post.

Maybe he will become a uniting figure in the aftermath of this tragedy and in acquitting himself with dignity he will achieve more than a keyboard jockey like me ever has.

I still think that he is a total plastic convert, in it for the POC cool points and only ever really about himself.
In his twitter video it seems clear to me that he doesn't really know much Islamic lore or language to reference.

He is the only New Zealand Muslim that NZ people will have even heard of. Plus he plays for the All Blacks national rugby side that is revered and so he will be all over this like David Hogg after a school shooting.

And Im also pissed in advance of this because whilst he uses anything and everything to draw attention to himself he has never once stepped into any controversy/ condemned the excesses of Muslims in the past, never once shown any interest in the victims of other Islamic terror attacks.

And also I might add.. Never once thought that his cool new ID might make him an actual target (in the same way that Bataclan concert-goers were a target) as opposed to just providing him with free victimhood points, which he will be exploiting to the max right now.

Post: #60

(03-15-2019 03:58 AM)Roardog Wrote:  How any of you guys can see any kind legitimacy to these people's actions I'll never understand.

No matter where you sit on the political spectrum or what you think about the culture wars, etc, surely we can all agree that violence against unarmed civilians is not the answer to anything?

This kind of attack achieves nothing except serving to further radicalise people. It's not going to achieve anything positive or change anything for the better.

Absolutely disgusted by today's attack and thoughts with all the victims, their friends and family.

Who said this??? You seem to be the only one trying to incite something.

This crazy motherfucker deserves what any terrorist does.

Post: #61

(03-14-2019 11:46 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  In that main back room only 1 guy even tried to run away that was weird. They were bunched up in the corners and barely moved. 1 shot probably wouldnt drop a man with adrenaline wanting to get away.

I found that strange too.

I suppose none of those people could really tell what was going on until it was too late. The gun is way quieter than you'd think. It almost sounded like a paintball gun. And it's also possible some people did run away successfully, which is why you didn't see them on his livestream. If you see someone, so did he. Thus they likely didn't survive the shooting.

There was a guy that tried charging him and was killed. That and the woman pleading were the hard parts to watch. Otherwise the video seemed surreal, as others have pointed out. I guess a video like this would be though.

Post: #62

Will be 49+ dead. Horrible.

I wonder what the social profile of this guy / these guys were. Incel? Marginal employment? Mental health?

Obviously loser(s).

Post: #63

HThey bomb churches all over the world, ethnically cleanse Christian areas in the middle East and Africa, but it's "disgusting" when they finally get a taste of their own medicine?

They had it coming not losing sleep over this.

Post: #64

(03-15-2019 03:48 AM)marcusdivincenzo Wrote:  The issue for me highlighted the danger of taking the "red pill" too far. If people are isolated from society and spend all day reading "red pill" philosophy or 4chan, an ordinary person can go out and take extreme acts.

Bingo. Guy is a complete fucking loser.

Every idiot that sits there getting utterly enraged (as enraged as the gunman) about how bad immigrants are, yet doesn't have a big family or isn't trying to have one, is a hypocrite.

They know the solution, but they won't do what it takes.

It's the equivalent of a black or brown guy talking about "fuck wypipo, they have all the $", yet they don't want to work or find a job.

This guy took the cowards way out, and it will hurt his people, as more whites will be disgusted by anything that even resembles white identity politics now

Post: #65

(03-15-2019 04:43 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:48 AM)marcusdivincenzo Wrote:  The issue for me highlighted the danger of taking the "red pill" too far. If people are isolated from society and spend all day reading "red pill" philosophy or 4chan, an ordinary person can go out and take extreme acts.

Bingo. Guy is a complete fucking loser.

Every idiot that sits there getting utterly enraged (as enraged as the gunman) about how bad immigrants are, yet doesn't have a big family or isn't trying to have one, is a hypocrite.

They know the solution, but they won't do what it takes.

It's the equivalent of a black or brown guy talking about "fuck wypipo, they have all the $", yet they don't want to work or find a job.

this guy took the cowards way out, and it will hurt his people, as more whites will be disgusted by anything that even resembles white identity politics now

Personally I'm sick of these dickless platitudes.

I hate muslim terrorists but I never call them cowards and I never call them losers.

These guys, as unfortunately deluded as they were, went 49+ to 4 and were committed to dying for their cause. They are not losers in any sense of the word. They won everything they set out to achieve. Call them what you want but they're not losers.

And for the love of God, please stop spamming the tired old trope of "wypipo need to have more kids".

We "wypipo" are not interested in having 8 kids we can't afford to feed like the fucking savages of the world. We don't need more white people. We need less of everyone else.

Post: #66

I'm putting the odds at about 100% that this thread is being very carefully watched for media-worthy quotes.

Also slightly pissed off that the guy used actual pictures of me for his profile...

(03-14-2019 10:15 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

Post: #67

Claims that this footage appears to be "not realistic" might be a bit misplaced.

Real life shooting doesn't typically involve Hollywood-esque bloodpacks being detonated on cue and people being tossed around like ragdolls to the tune of carefully equalizer-crafted *gunshot352.mp3*.

Basic cameras with basic microphones in them always make gunshots seem fake because they dampen the noise to fall in line with typical sound recording levels. Watch a hundred hunting videos an all you'll generally hear is a generic 'thump' followed by the animal falling down unceremoniously.

It seems to me like everyone bunched to the corners in some sort of an unfortunate herd-based fight/flight response gone wrong. Hence he just kept plugging away at the pile of bodies.

I will certainly go out on a limb and say the level of professionalism was what concerned me here. Back in '96 when the Port Arthur conspiracy was used to disarm Australia there were two Israelis that were given a pass to skate back home ASAP by the powers that be, and back when I first researched the event I was blue-pilled on the JQ and thought "how is that relevant?" Right now I'm hedging my bets on whether this was the work of a grassroots patriot pissed off with muslim immigration or some kind of Mossad op.

This guy was on /pol but he didn't choose a synagogue rather than a mosque? Combined with the extreme professionalism it raises some red flags.

edit: Watching the full video and I'm still on the fence about this. On some level when a guy decides to gun up and go on a killing spree you have to contend with the fact that you can't rationalize his motives entirely.

Post: #68

(03-15-2019 04:51 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  We "wypipo" are not interested in having 8 kids we can't afford to feed like the fucking savages of the world. We don't need more white people. We need less of everyone else.

I honestly can't believe what I've read. Can't believe a guy with so many rep points on this forum could be this unwoke.

"Booohooo we don't want to go through the struggles that our ancestors went through in building the civilizations that we inherited, like having big families and feeding them....We just want these big bad brown people to disappear"

Your statement sound like that of an adolescent

If you just want to bliss out and defy nature (survival and replication), do you really believe you deserve anything? Of course others will come and take your furniture. It has happened to many different people over thousands of years.

Post: #69

(03-15-2019 03:48 AM)Tyrion Wrote:  Its disgusting to see bunch of white nationalists on this forum trying to spin this, claiming "oh this shoulda happen earlier", and showing absolutely no sympathy to the victims.

What a bunch of little incels condoning mindless violence against innocent people. No wonder white women became the sluts they are today, and the white birth rates went down the drain. You folks are an insult to the idea of being "men".....

Celebrating acts of desperation, hopelessness, and cowardice is not what traditional, proper men would do.

RIP to the victims.

I hope that piece of sh*t is tortured to death in jail. A slow, humiliating death, that is.

I got about 7 posts down the thread and thought "I don't see anyone expressing any sympathy" - took till page 3 for 1 post like this. Absolute disgraceful posters.

Post: #70

(03-15-2019 04:51 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  These guys, as unfortunately deluded as they were, went 49+ to 4 and were committed to dying for their cause. They are not losers in any sense of the word. They won everything they set out to achieve. Call them what you want but they're not losers.

I gotta disagree with you big time there. Being a loser in my opinion is more about your behavior and attitude than anything else. It doesn't matter that he succeeded in killing a lot of people when the goal itself is totally retarded. Only a loser would think shooting a bunch of unarmed and innocent people was somehow going to embolden your message.

It's like the ages-old metaphor of the gang banger that destroys the very neighborhood he swears to rep/protect. These terrorists only embolden the people the people they are opposed to, while undermining the ideology they are propagating. He'll also spend the rest of his life in jail cell for his actions. I see no winning involved.

Post: #71

(03-15-2019 05:18 AM)Korrupt Wrote:  I got about 7 posts down the thread and thought "I don't see anyone expressing any sympathy" - took till page 3 for 1 post like this. Absolute disgraceful posters.

I absolutely agree with you about some of the posts, but let me just point out that while I feel terrible for these poor people that were senselessly killed, I don't see the use in making posts strictly about sympathy. Reading a bunch of "RIP's" doesn't really do anything for anyone. I'd like to say it should be assumed, but I guess I couldn't. I'd say it can be horrifying how the internet can de-sensitize people.

Post: #72

I'd bet a dollar that Korrupt, Tyrion and LawrenceAshford are the same person.

Post: #73

“These violent delights have violent ends
And in their triump die, like fire and powder
Which, as they kiss, consume”

― William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet

Post: #74

(03-15-2019 05:34 AM)Sgt Donger Wrote:  I'd bet a dollar that Korrupt, Tyrion and LawrenceAshford are the same person.

This is one of the reasons I think conspiracies are bullshit 99% of the time. The proponents of them like you see that shit in everything. I rarely come on here, and would never bother making multiple accounts. But whatever.

Post: #75

(03-15-2019 05:14 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 04:51 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  We "wypipo" are not interested in having 8 kids we can't afford to feed like the fucking savages of the world. We don't need more white people. We need less of everyone else.

I honestly can't believe what I've read. Can't believe a guy with so many rep points on this forum could be this unwoke.

"Booohooo we don't want to go through the struggles that our ancestors went through in building the civilizations that we inherited, like having big families and feeding them....We just want these big bad brown people to disappear"

Your statement sound like that of an adolescent

If you just want to bliss out and defy nature (survival and replication), do you really believe you deserve anything? Of course others will come and take your furniture. It has happened to many different people over thousands of years.

What is the traditional means for one group of people deal with another group of people who want to "come and take their furniture"?

Outbreeding them?

Piss off you race-trolling loser. Guys like you absolutely love incidents like this. It gives you a chance to post passive aggressive race-trolling bullshit. Take your measly 3 rep and fuck off back to your threads about being a 30 year old virgin, "mighty brown invader" of the West.

Quote:...If you just want to bliss out and defy nature (survival and replication), do you really believe you deserve anything? Of course others will come and take your furniture. It has happened to many different people over thousands of years.

This is the kind of arrogant attitude that pushed these shooters to do what they did. If you get the sense that in your greatness you're replacing lesser Australians then I strongly suggest you don't give up that dual citizenship any time soon.