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Man those white kids are Rosa Parks like heroes.

Don't they know whites are supposed to instantly defer to someone browner than them?
01-20-2019 05:08 PM
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(01-20-2019 03:39 PM)durangotang Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 01:27 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  Durangotang, would you rather have something that works or nothing?

You are obviously intelligent enough to know how our political system works. A person can promise all sorts of things but that alone isn't enough if he can't get Congress to work with him.

Why hasn't he begun deporting illegal aliens? He has only sought to deport illegal alien criminals, like MS13. Does he need Congress for that too? There are likely 35 million people illegally in the country. Why hasn't he deported the so called dreamers? Why hasn't his attorney general prosecuted mayors of sanctuary cities? They are breaking federal law. Is Congress necessary for that?

In Fiscal Year 2019, the federal budget will be $4.407 trillion. The U.S. government estimates it will receive $3.422 trillion in revenue. That creates a $985 billion deficit for October 1, 2018 through September 30, 2019. It's not like we are cutting the budget to the bone or are under austerity - we are running nearly $1 trillion dollar deficits. Yes, Congress drafts the budget, but Trump signs off on the budget. That's leverage and we are finally seeing him use it - albeit with the wrong Congress, asking for the wrong amount, and too late in the game.

He is also commander and chief, and he did get $1.5 trillion for the military. I would like to think that the author of The Art of The Deal could find a way to allocate $50 billion for the wall from the $1,500 billion dollars that he got to rebuild the military. Or perhaps the master negotiator could find a way to get $50 billion for the wall, out of the $8,000+ billion that his administration has spent in 2017 and 2018 that he signed off on. Instead he asking for $5.7 billion in a publicity stunt to build 200 miles of steel slats. He hasn't even exhausted all measures within his capacity - such as taxing remittances by executive order which could fund the amount that he is currently asking from Congress per year (10% on $50 billion per year).

The bottom line is that he won an historic election, had both houses of Congress, and a clear mandate to build the wall. Instead, he chose to use his political capital to do other things, like tax cuts. It's all his own fault, he had all the momentum in the world. Saying that Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell lied to him is a lame excuse. "I am going to build a big beautiful border wall along our southern border - but not if Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell lie to me." Did anyone here ever believe that these two were anything but liars?

After he went through with the shutdown and threatened to declare a national emergency, I have said that I will withhold judgement until we see what he gets done. So we'll see - the ball is in Trump's court. It's not a good sign, however, that Trump is offering to amnesty 3.6 million "dreamers" in exchange for funding for a couple hundred miles of steel slats. Can't they just chain migration their family unless that is also reformed? Also, if that goes through, then there will be no moral authority to challenge the 14th amendment (anchor babies) and you can kiss Texas goodbye forever. A republican will never win another national election again.


You asked if I would rather get something that works or nothing? Does a couple hundred miles steel slats on a 1,950 mile border sound like something that works to you? Is that worth amnesty for millions of future Democrat dreamers? This could all be bluster and Trump could still declare a national emergency and start to build a proper wall. I will wait and see what happens.

Excellent post! Only when it became practically impossible did building the wall become an immediate priority. That tells you all you need to know. The amount of money required is insignificant in the greater context.

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01-20-2019 05:26 PM
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I've said it before.
Make the most of these Trump administration years.

For if such years are the last we'll have of general normalcy, before some sort of Soycialist / Idiocracy situation writ large.

Best to make the most of these Trump administration years.
01-20-2019 06:49 PM
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One could only wish :

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Quote:President Trump should invite all of these high schoolers from Convington Catholic to the White House.
01-20-2019 06:58 PM
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I usually don't watch videos like this but I watched the video of the Covington high students.

They barely even mocked the guy, and HE was the one who approached THEM, so you'd expect to not be too welcome. What the fuck is this shit?

I may be going to the March for Life next year in a group; if I'm caught on tape giving a protester a particularly mean tongue-lashing, does this mean I'm going to be doxxed and have my life ruined?
01-20-2019 07:30 PM
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01-20-2019 08:06 PM
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(01-20-2019 08:06 PM)sonoran_ Wrote:  https://twitter.com/RightHookUSA/status/...2755247105

Hollywood and the media is a complete and total cesspool. America realizes this - its why ratings for shit like the Golden Globes and Academy Awards are plummeting. I havent been to the movies since I watched American Sniper years ago. Fuck them all.

I am in the DC area and turned on the NBC local news at 11 (ABC was showing a basketball game) to check the weather and this Covington bullshit was the lead story. Its such bullshit propaganda its become comical.
01-20-2019 08:14 PM
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So, these boys were in a march wearing their Trump hats and thes black Muslims start calling them obscene names. When they get into an argument, the senile old bum sticks a drum in their faces and starts banging it.

"But his mother claimed “black Muslims” had been harassing the group of Donald Trump supporters from the private, all-male Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky.

In an email to the news website heavy.com the mother of a Covington Catholic student, believed to be the boy prominently featured in footage of the incident, wrote: “Did you hear the names of the people were calling these boys? It was shameful. Did you witness the black Muslims yelling profanities and video taping to get something to further your narrative of hatred??"

We can see where this is going. The libtards need their daily dose of outrage and their daily sacrifice of the innocents.

And does their Catholic school stick up for them?

“We extend our deepest apologies to Mr Phillips. This behaviour is opposed to the church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person."

He is right about one thing. The teachings of the church do not support our people. Fuck them.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...37186.html

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01-20-2019 08:47 PM
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As insane as the leftism, victim studies, and SJWism has been this past few years, I see these people taking it to a whole new level this year. The Dems have the US house, and seem to be pushing a super extreme, hard left agenda. Unfortunately, I think more than half the US population supports this kind of insanity.

Trump is fighting, but not as aggressively or as effectively as we would have liked. We support him, and lots of other Americans do, but the other side is shameless, and they are willing to be aggressive. I think we're in for a crazy year.

I'd like to see Trump find his second wind and do some more winning, but no matter what, the left is going to be almost unbelievable.

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The sight of happy go lucky, healthy, young white conservatives is amazingly triggering.



This kid didn’t get the memo he should be groveling or hooked on opioids.



Take care of those titties for me.
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I believe the black group that had been harassing them was one of those Black Hebrew groups - as far as I know, they claim the ancient Hebrews were black, and even the SPLC has them on a watch list (not sure if they are labeled a straight-up hate group like Nation of Islam or New Black Panthers). They occasionally demonstrate in my town and are a very pissed off group of people.

Really though, I hope a moment like this drives people out of the regular Catholic Church and into either Orthodoxy or traditionalist Catholicism. The church is almost fully converged, and often times the teachers are openly liberal and don't care.
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I saw on reddit The Donald that someone replied to that Reza dude: "Yeah, yours" Lol.

Cernovich also made a good point that the Catholic Church is going harder after these poor boys than they did for any of the pedophile priests. Sad but true.

This whole story is sickening and shows me how truly unhinged and dangerous these lefties are. The blue check mark brigade is especially awful. They're like piranhas ganging up on innocent people like these boys. No one waits for facts anymore, they just react in an over the top, hysterical manner. These boys need to sue the living shit out of all of these media outlets. They've had numerous offers of pro bono representation for this case and I think they ought to pursue it. I know that if I was the dad of these kids, I'd be preparing for legal war with these media douchebags.
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Why do lunatics hang out at the Lincoln Memorial all the time? I remember seeing whack jobs there back in the 80's. This shit never ends.
This last crisis is just another leftist smear campaign.
01-20-2019 10:09 PM
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Sometimes the things that are staring you right in the face are the hardest of all to see. There are many things about the Trump presidency -- one of the sweetest and most unlikely phrases in American and world history -- that are so overwhelmingly obvious that no one really bothers to notice them. Today, on the two year anniversary of that beautiful, bitterly cold Friday in January 2017 when T was inaugurated to be president of the United States, is as good a time as any to reflect on these things.

Here is the most important, overwhelmingly obvious, but also easy to miss fact about the Trump era: he has permanently and irreversibly changed the world simply by being himself. The continued presence of DJT on the world stage, and always at the exact center of that stage -- as he loves to note, from the very first primary debate, at least when there was an odd number of candidates present -- has unleashed new comic and creative energies, American energies that had been longing to come out but that had lain dormant for a long time. The secular priesthood that had had uncontested control of that center stage for so many years sought to stifle these energies, and with some success; a HAG presidency would have been the ultimate coronation of that secular priesthood, and it would have cast a pall over the lives and spirits of two or three generations of American men -- and a weakening of that spirit, the presence of a few weak links in the uninterrupted chain of American genius, is something that could have caused us some real problems in ways that matter. But -- miraculously -- that is not what happened.

What happened instead, from those very first and unforgettable debates and through every unstumpable Jeb Bush putdown, through every rally in Wisconsin and Costa Mesa and Warwick, Rhode Island, through that incredible November night whose memory still sends a shiver down my spine, and through the months of ceaseless contention that followed the inauguration itself -- what happened was the eruption of a force of nature named Donald J. Trump that presented an irreconcilable, savage difference to all that the secular priesthood believed in and knew was right and proper. And that difference, its very fact, the immovable orange object meeting what had seemed a grimly unstoppable force -- has freed and lifted untold millions of young and not so young American men, freed them into humor, into irreverence, into the possibility of the shit-eating grin that you see on the faces of those Catholic school kids in MAGA hats in that video from today. The lives of these men could have really been botched had a HAG coronation greeted their tender youth at a time of uncontested Year Zero savagery; but now a new and altogether different, benignly savage orange sun had risen on the horizon and this, once seen, could never be unseen. T broke the spell, and you know how it is with spells -- no matter how often or fanatically repeated, they are never the same again once broken.

Of course, none of this means that the secular priesthood -- what I have called elsewhere the Year Zero cadres -- has disappeared, or lost its powers, or has given up; on the contrary, they too have been energized and incited by encountering essential contradiction; it has whipped them into a frenzy of rage and hatred that has been a sight to behold. These powers, and their practical effects on all our lives, are real and they are here to stay for a while to come. But because of the Trump eruption those powers are no longer uncontested at their core -- and this fact has permanently transformed the minds and souls of countless men in America and all over the world. If there is one thing that must be understood about the T era, this is it.

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Now I would like to say a few things about political practicalities which have been the subject of endless -- and honestly, very dull -- debates here and all over the Internet chattersphere. Here too, there are some obvious facts, all of them secondary to the overwhelming fact noted above, but all still worth noting.

The first obvious fact is that the powers of a US president -- any president -- to effect immediate political change are quite limited. This is by design; the ship of state, and such a massive ship as America is, must change its course slowly and consensus is required for any very large changes. This is true of any president, but it is doubly and triply true of someone like Trump, who has encountered a campaign of media, judicial, and legislative obstruction and resistance unlike any president in our history.

Even in the two years in which Republicans ostensibly controlled both chambers of Congress, their hands were effectively tied by the requirement of 60 votes in the Senate to advance legislation; the tax cut bill, because of its specific budgetary nature, was the only major piece of legislation for which this 60 vote requirement could be circumvented. For this reason, any measures that require legislative approval -- and building the wall, to take just one example, falls into that category -- could only have come about as a result of a deal between the two parties. The Democrats have never shown an appetite for such deals; it remains to be seen whether T will be able to use the shutdown to force one through, but to do so would in any case require significant concessions and include things that the Democrats want. This is just political reality; you may not like it but that doesn't change the basic facts.

In addition, the current state of judicial supremacy in the US has meant that many executive initiatives of the T administration -- such as the first travel ban, the attempt to end DACA, and prospectively, any attempt to use emergency powers to build the wall -- have been or will be thwarted by Year Zero district court judges who simply arrive at the verdicts they want and supply the reasoning as needed. These verdicts can be overturned by higher courts -- and ultimately the Supreme Court -- but that is a lengthy and unwieldy process, and while it goes on, the hands of the administration are tied. Again, these are the political realities, like them or not.

Against the backdrop of these limitations, there are two areas in which the T administration has been able to exercise real power: foreign policy, which includes certain aspects of economic policy such as trade; and judicial appointments, which the administration can push through given only a majority in the Senate.

In these two areas where T has had real power and purchase, his record is, by any objective measure, spectacular. Most importantly -- for the ultimate course of world history -- T is the first US president who had the BALLS to stand up to China; indeed it's possible that he has single-handedly reversed the course of Chinese ascendancy. He has understood the weakness of China's economic position and its dependence on the US -- far greater than our dependence on them -- and in the span of a short year he has brought the Chinese economy to its knees and the Chicom leaders to the negotiating table in a way that no one else could have or would have done. This, coupled with T's relentless commitment to US military supremacy and to contesting Chinese initiatives in space and elsewhere, will likely ensure that the US will remain the sole and dominant world superpower for generations to come and indeed the foreseeable future. I don't know if this would have been in doubt in any case, but continued American weakness against China might have caused them to really try to test us at some point, with some possibly very nasty and unpredictable consequences. T's show of strength -- which has stunned the Chinese, and to which they are still struggling to respond -- has made all this much less likely.

The other area of great importance for the long run of American -- and therefore, world -- history has been the way that the T administration has been transforming the US judiciary. The rate of appointments of solidly conservative and constitutionalist judges to district and appellate courts, and of course the Supreme Court, has been without precedent in modern US history. The presence of these judges will safeguard American freedoms from Year Zero assault for generations to come; their importance cannot be exaggerated.

And of course the successful nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the US Supreme Court has provided not only the signature moment of the Trump administration so far, but one of the signature moments of American history: in the face of an evil misandrist witch hunt -- the true apex of frenzied Year Zero lies and hatred, the sadistic culmination of the #MeToo hysteria and its attempted destruction of a good and capable man and his beautiful, sweet family -- in the face of all this, the Republicans, for once, held fast. Cocaine Mitch was stronger than mule's piss, and Lindsey Graham had his moment of pure Bee Gees meme ecstasy and inspiration going into the SUV; and of course Kavanaugh himself summoned his spirit of righteous indignation that turned the tide. But all of this was made possible by the steadfastness of Trump who never once considered any outcome other than victory. Any other president would have folded; but T had the BRASS BALLS to stay the course and he made these other men, McConnell, and Graham, and Kavanaugh, stronger and better, he gave them enough of his own strength to see it all through. Other than November 8, 2016 there is no greater date in recent US political history than October 6, 2018, the day Kavanaugh was confirmed to the Supreme Court by a 50-48 Senate vote. I will never forget that glorious Saturday afternoon, and how I screamed in joy and victory once the tally was done and scrolled through the ecstatic #BeersForBrett hashtag then trending on Twitter, to see so many normal American men express their own joy and relief at having won against such black lies and evil. We owe this moment to many men, but none more so than the indomitable DJT himself.

There are so many other things to note: T spitting in the face of eco-nihilist pieties by withdrawing from the disgusting Paris climate accord; the underrated Betsy DeVos giving some hope to American college kids by reversing the kangaroo court "sexual assault" policies in US universities; and much more. The last two years are, in every way, an embarrassment of riches, but all these -- as important as they are -- are still secondary to the fact of T's mere presence on center stage and all that his difference in kind has signified.

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Lastly, a few words by way of general reflection. There are many posters here and -- no doubt -- many more lurkers who seem convinced that we are on course toward some catastrophe however defined, perhaps the end of western civilization itself, perhaps a civil war in the US, in any case the end of the world as we know it. They talk about "demographics" and imagine that it's destiny; they think they can see what's coming and that unless it is stopped this very second -- unless the wall is built yesterday, or whatever other necessary measures are taken -- it will any moment now be too late. That is the increasingly prevailing spirit in this particular corner of the chattersphere; other corners have their own mechanisms of doom, whether it's "climate change" or "soulless capitalism" or whatever else, but they all come to the same apocalyptic certainties.

To these men, I would simply say this: be a little more modest in the face of an unknown and unknowable future. Unless you have become fabulously wealthy by predicting world events -- and the ability to predict very large and complex outcomes would definitely be worth many zeros after the one -- you should consider the possibility that world history moves in ways that are beyond your or anyone else's ability to encompass and comprehend. The only trend that, over time, has been inexorable is that of mankind extending its control over the material world by advancing our understanding of mathematics and science, and making that growing understanding tangible through technology. This inexorable trend makes it likely that future generations will enjoy a life that is, in most respects, better and full of greater power and reach than ours -- though this of course does not exclude the possibility of reversals and misfortunes along the way. But most catastrophes that you think are inevitable will probably not happen; most trends that you think are inexorable are probably only temporary. Is the US truly headed towards "civil war", or will it become "another Brazil", or an Islamic caliphate, or will there be mandatory SJW reeducation camps for men, or will trannies rule the world? I wouldn't say any of these things are impossible -- well, I guess the last one is -- but I have my doubts any of them will happen. I suppose we will find out in due course.

For what it's worth, my prescription for one and all is a good strong dose of cognitive humility. The world as it is is truly complex, more so than ever before. It does no good to fear this complexity, or to feel so anxious in its face that one attempts to forestall it with certainties that rest on no solid foundation. It is better to shrug one's shoulders and say, I know a few things about the world but I don't know the future; let me delight in what there is and enjoy the spectacle for all it's worth and for as long as I'm privileged to see it. There has never been a better or more interesting time to be alive -- and for as long as one Donald J. Trump is on the scene, there has certainly never been a more entertaining time. Take it all in and, as the man himself likes to say, we'll see what happens.

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(01-20-2019 06:49 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  I've said it before.
Make the most of these Trump administration years.

For if such years are the last we'll have of general normalcy, before some sort of Soycialist / Idiocracy situation writ large.

Best to make the most of these Trump administration years.








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Quote:To these men, I would simply say this: be a little more modest in the face of an unknown and unknowable future. Unless you have become fabulously wealthy by predicting world events -- and the ability to predict very large and complex outcomes would definitely be worth many zeros after the one -- you should consider the possibility that world history moves in ways that are beyond your or anyone else's ability to encompass and comprehend.

I take my cues from those who have done just that. The long term trend is unmistakable: the US as we know it will decline and the east will rise with violence increasing dramatically in 2020 and beyond. It's unlikely that the US will persist indefinitely in it's present form because both the credible forecasts to that effect and the massive economic, cultural, and demographic divide that has emerged between the coastal states and the central areas. My current thought is that North America may be the best place through 2060 ( there's other factors I know about but do not discuss publicly, although they have been separately discovered by the more astute posters here). The key is to be in the right location ahead of time. Currently I believe that the mountain regions are the best prospect: they are generally conservative, more or less demographically homogenous, and are less populated while being more or less self sufficient resource-wise. Both Utah and West Virginia have all the resources necessary to be self sufficient although Utah has a considerable geographic advantage over WV(population and geographic barriers to nearby states).

There's also some reason to believe that Utah is a "safe zone" as the Mormon church (which has substantial deep-state ties) is helping to keep the area relatively low crime and ethnically homogenous. Applies to a lesser extent in WV due to the high number of facilities there.
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(01-20-2019 10:43 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  ...
It is better to shrug one's shoulders and say, I know a few things about the world but I don't know the future; let me delight in what there is and enjoy the spectacle for all it's worth and for as long as I'm privileged to see it. There has never been a better or more interesting time to be alive -- and for as long as one Donald J. Trump is on the scene, there has certainly never been a more entertaining time. Take it all in and, as the man himself likes to say, we'll see what happens.

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(01-21-2019 12:15 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  The long term trend is unmistakable: the US as we know it will decline and the east will rise with violence increasing dramatically in 2020 and beyond. It's unlikely that the US will persist indefinitely in it's present form because both the credible forecasts to that effect and the massive economic, cultural, and demographic divide that has emerged between the coastal states and the central areas. My current thought is that North America may be the best place through 2060 ( there's other factors I know about but do not discuss publicly, although they have been separately discovered by the more astute posters here). The key is to be in the right location ahead of time.

I'm with the demographics is destiny crowd. The USA will not be reclaimed in a civ-nat fashion as a broad tent which is friendly to white people and other races alike. Trump is the last gasp of the boomer dream. Regardless of the extent to which he succeeds, any political and cultural gains will be rolled back as the demographic tide washes over: Texas and Florida will go Democrat for good, the baby boomers will die off en masse, whites will become a minority, and so on. These things are baked in. It's going to get ugly.

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(01-21-2019 12:15 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  
Quote:To these men, I would simply say this: be a little more modest in the face of an unknown and unknowable future. Unless you have become fabulously wealthy by predicting world events -- and the ability to predict very large and complex outcomes would definitely be worth many zeros after the one -- you should consider the possibility that world history moves in ways that are beyond your or anyone else's ability to encompass and comprehend.

I take my cues from those who have done just that. The long term trend is unmistakable: the US as we know it will decline and the east will rise with violence increasing dramatically in 2020 and beyond. It's unlikely that the US will persist indefinitely in it's present form because both the credible forecasts to that effect and the massive economic, cultural, and demographic divide that has emerged between the coastal states and the central areas. My current thought is that North America may be the best place through 2060 ( there's other factors I know about but do not discuss publicly, although they have been separately discovered by the more astute posters here). The key is to be in the right location ahead of time. Currently I believe that the mountain regions are the best prospect: they are generally conservative, more or less demographically homogenous, and are less populated while being more or less self sufficient resource-wise. Both Utah and West Virginia have all the resources necessary to be self sufficient although Utah has a considerable geographic advantage over WV(population and geographic barriers to nearby states).

There's also some reason to believe that Utah is a "safe zone" as the Mormon church (which has substantial deep-state ties) is helping to keep the area relatively low crime and ethnically homogenous. Applies to a lesser extent in WV due to the high number of facilities there.

Mormons missionaries are everywhere - you'll even find them in Mexico going door to door. Mormonism abandoned any notion of racial identity. They may be ground zero for white breeders in the USA presently, for historical reasons, but I could easily see them bringing in Somalis like Minnesota or doing some other form of virtue signaling that demonstrates that they are not racist and legitimizes the influence of their cult religion. I would agree with you that Utah and Idaho, or New England, are probably the best bets for a predominantly white populations in the United States going forward. Just be prepared to be frozen out by Mormons if you are not part of their religious community.

Psychologically, Mormons distrust the federal government because of their history being persecuted and pushed out of Ohio and Missouri until they found their chosen land in Utah, however, I don't see them taking up arms against the federal government. It's almost normalized for them. Any kind of response to federal tyranny will be translated through their religious filter first. In general, they are mild mannered Christians and soccer mom consumers driving minivans more than revolutionaries. I am not an expert, so someone correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that they have an apocalyptic scenario they believe that they must survive in some future period in the USA and many of them have years of stored food and supplies as mandated by their religion. I have bought freeze dried food from them in the past.

I don't give the USA as long as you do. I think that the dollar is positioned to endure one more major financial crises without a currency crises and we have the right guy in office to see to that. After the next financial crisis crypto will have had another cycle of growth and development, China's influence will grow (the rise of the Asian middle class is incredible), Euro banks will recapitalize, bilateral currency swaps will continue, and the world will continue to move away from the dollar as world reserve currency. Our debt to GDP is already 100%+ and will move north, Republicans will permanently cease to control the executive, and baby boomers will die off - so that Republican influence over Congress will diminish over the next 10 years until there are insufficient numbers to check a Democrat executive. We will be running on Trump's momentum for the next 10 years, but demographics will become significantly worse. When the Millennial generation take the reigns of power, the Democrat Socialist branch of the Democrat party (Ocasio-Cortez) will outnumber Neoliberals whom have died off (Pelosi) and someone like Ocasio-Cortez will control the Presidency and Congress probably around 2032 - if not 2028. None of what I have put forth is radical. I am just conservatively extending present trends. If you think it's too aggressive, then simply add a couple of years to the equation.

"True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country," to quote Vonnegut. In our case true terror will be to have SJW Millennial women placed in charge of the military industrial complex and intelligence agencies. Roosh, you should move to Russia before they drone strike your ass for offending them.

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How long do you think it will take to squander America's wealth? If the trend continues, debt to GDP will be approaching 150% by then and the dollar will likely account for less than 50% of world trade. I predict we'll see an out migration of the former middle class, with open borders to the third world, similar to California. How will we respond to a currency crises at that time? Will the dollar fall like the Argentine Peso? There is an unbelievable amount of dollars outside the US and the only place that they are required to be taken by law is in the US. A flood of foreign dollars buying up US domestic assets during a recession is a recipe for disaster. Our demographics will more closely resemble Brazil than Argentina at that time. Will we be able to control welfare spending or entitlements and balance the budget? We can't even do that now. Or will we double down on Socialist policies? What will interest payments be like on the federal debt? As a distraction, will we be involved in another war in the Middle East - in Iran for example? There is tremendous pressure for that by very powerful interest groups internally.

I could not agree more than now is our time to make hay while the sun is shining.

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Those kids have more balls than the Republicans in congress!

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Also, remember when there was an actual case of kids harassing an elderly protester? It wasn't covered...wonder why.



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(01-21-2019 12:36 AM)RawGod Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 12:15 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  The long term trend is unmistakable: the US as we know it will decline and the east will rise with violence increasing dramatically in 2020 and beyond. It's unlikely that the US will persist indefinitely in it's present form because both the credible forecasts to that effect and the massive economic, cultural, and demographic divide that has emerged between the coastal states and the central areas. My current thought is that North America may be the best place through 2060 ( there's other factors I know about but do not discuss publicly, although they have been separately discovered by the more astute posters here). The key is to be in the right location ahead of time.

I'm with the demographics is destiny crowd. The USA will not be reclaimed in a civ-nat fashion as a broad tent which is friendly to white people and other races alike. Trump is the last gasp of the boomer dream. Regardless of the extent to which he succeeds, any political and cultural gains will be rolled back as the demographic tide washes over: Texas and Florida will go Democrat for good, the baby boomers will die off en masse, whites will become a minority, and so on. These things are baked in. It's going to get ugly.

Trump had the popular support to go Caesar and salvage the Republic by any and all means necessary. It could have been done, even if it was dangerous and ugly and resulted in hardship for everyone involved. I believe that there were still enough Americans with the guts to support and protect him through that process. They would have walked south to build the wall with their bare hands. That moment is lost now, and America wont get another like it.

The reality is that Trump was either gotten to or he balked in the face of destiny.

Not to say any of us would have done better, but it is what it is.

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(01-21-2019 04:28 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 12:36 AM)RawGod Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 12:15 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  The long term trend is unmistakable: the US as we know it will decline and the east will rise with violence increasing dramatically in 2020 and beyond. It's unlikely that the US will persist indefinitely in it's present form because both the credible forecasts to that effect and the massive economic, cultural, and demographic divide that has emerged between the coastal states and the central areas. My current thought is that North America may be the best place through 2060 ( there's other factors I know about but do not discuss publicly, although they have been separately discovered by the more astute posters here). The key is to be in the right location ahead of time.

I'm with the demographics is destiny crowd. The USA will not be reclaimed in a civ-nat fashion as a broad tent which is friendly to white people and other races alike. Trump is the last gasp of the boomer dream. Regardless of the extent to which he succeeds, any political and cultural gains will be rolled back as the demographic tide washes over: Texas and Florida will go Democrat for good, the baby boomers will die off en masse, whites will become a minority, and so on. These things are baked in. It's going to get ugly.

Trump had the popular support to go Caesar and salvage the Republic by any and all means necessary. It could have been done, even if it was dangerous and ugly and resulted in hardship for everyone involved. I believe that there were still enough Americans with the guts to support and protect him through that process. They would have walked south to build the wall with their bare hands. That moment is lost now, and America wont get another like it.

The reality is that Trump was either gotten to or he balked in the face of destiny.

Not to say any of us would have done better, but it is what it is.

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You’re giving the Mormons too much credit for that mild mannered image.

If you dig around on the web you can find some articles with CIA types talking about how every Mormon who applies gets a job. There’s a reason for that.

I am NOT just suggesting Utah for demographics. I have reason to believe that it’s one of several areas being maintained as future “green zones”. You can spot these areas because they have a confluence of key infrastructure assets(often recently installed deep state facilities like that NSA warehouse), geographic safety, and a lack of any “cultural enrichment” in any significant numbers.

I expect the future of the US to look like Afghanistan today. Certain areas will be relatively safe because of key cities (e.g. Kandahar), Tribal/Ethnic homogeneity and influences (like Herat), or because they’re small and geographically isolated locales (any number of high altitude mountain villages). Most of the rest will be owned by the savages and the warlords.
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Trump offers to limit his border wall to strategic locations

From the THE HILL article:
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) should give serious consideration to the settlement proposal that President Donald Trump made in his televised address from the White House.

Her objection all along has been to building a wall across the entire length of the Mexican border, and Trump no longer intends to erect “a concrete structure from sea to sea.”

He has acknowledged that much of the border is already protected by natural barriers, such as mountains and water. He wants the $5.7 billion he has requested for a strategic deployment of steel barriers at high priority locations.

The border already has many miles of barriers, including 115 miles that are being built or are under contract. He just plans to add another 230 miles this year at locations where they are most urgently needed.

These barriers would not make illegal crossings impossible, but they would make illegal crossings more difficult and make it easier for the Border Patrol to apprehend crossers.

His request includes $800 million for humanitarian assistance; $805 million for drug detection technology; 2,750 more border agents and law enforcement officers; and 75 more immigration judges.

In what he describes as an effort to build trust and goodwill, the legislation he is offering to implement his proposal also would extend the status of 700,000 DACA participants for three years.

This is just a temporary measure, but the outcome of the litigation over the DACA program is uncertain, and the participants will be extremely vulnerable if the program is terminated. DACA participation is sufficient in itself to establish deportability, and they can’t apply for asylum. There is a one-year time limit on filing asylum applications and they all have been here for more than a year.

The legislation also would extend the status of 300,000 current Temporary Protected Status recipients for three years.
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