Post: #26

(01-06-2019 05:50 AM)aswifty Wrote:  Girls hate a disheveled looking man

This just isn't true. I'd argue they hate a man who looks too polished to the point of looking metrosexual.

Post: #27

Damn, I bet the OP is wishing you picked an uglier example, Aenema!! haha. In that pic at least, that's a fairly handsome dude

Post: #28

(01-15-2019 10:56 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 02:53 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  For your case it's simple:

Obviously looks always matter, but an ugly muscular guy with 9% bodyfat and massive Game is still attractive to a shit-ton of women and has after a time created a certain type so that women say: "He isn't attractive, but he has something...." Yeah - that ugly motherfucker acts good-looking and after a time it's backed up by the dozens of girls he fucked.

OP, I have a perfect example of a guy like this I can show you. He doesn't even have the 9% body fat going for him, he's maybe 5'9. I'm going to post a picture of him, this is from public records so I don't think its out of line. I don't really know him personally, he's a friend of friends and I've seen him around. I don't even think he's ever used a computer for more than 5 minutes so the chances of him finding this are 0.

this pic is nearly a decade old, so imagine him way older and hair line far more receded




We are in an area where men settle for fat, ugly pigs. The men here are far better looking than the females, and I say this as a heterosexual man. Men way better looking and taller than him are in LTRs with fat 4-5s. This guy has slayed so much its not even funny. A couple of years ago I saw him out a couple of times with this beautiful barely legal girl. Shes a bit taller than him, legs longer than the nile, short skirt and a nice ass, bending over a pool table and he's just grabbing her ass with a shit eating grin. I was jealous. He's fucked atleast 5 or 6 girls I know. His body count is definitely triple digits from what I've heard. Dude is a smooth talker, he just has it. Even I can tell as a guy. He never displays thirst. He never put up with girls shit. I'm pretty sure he dumped the hot one too.

If this guy can do it, so can you OP. Work on your charisma. If you hold insecurities about your looks, even if you try to remedy them with whatever cosmetic enhancements you can think of, the insecurity will still be there and women will pick up on it. I know you probably don't believe it, but if you have total 100% confidence in yourself, then women will be saying "theres just something about him" about YOU.


And this guy only cold approaches, doesn't even have a smart phone I don't think. I doubt he'd do well on Tinder. No excuses OP.

I don't doubt for a moment that your post minute attraction can do wonders for your success with women, in principal it's the most important aspect of game, I'm not one of these incels saying "IT'S ONLY LOOKS, MONEY AND STATUS" people. But, I am one of those guys who say, that LMS increases your probabilities SUBSTANTIALLY. In Roosh's book game, his chapter on Attraction, I agree with everything said to the T.

Like i was telling my friend last night, if girls consider me a 6 or 7 (which i am) (assuming im approaching 5+s), my personality will have to be quite high in a cold approach setting. Unfortunately, I just frankly don't have a personality that women find attractive. There's lots of work to do. Men on the other hand, generally like hanging and talking with me, but not to a very high degree. My personality meshes well with being friends with men, but it's not attractive to women, just simply. So, it's not like im socially autistic is my point (maybe just a bit though).

So, if I looksmax (i originally wrote a 10 bulletin point plan i was going to implement, that did not involve surgery, to succeed at being a 9+ male), i quite honestly believe the standard girls will place on me for personality wll be substantially lower, and I won't have to worry about trying to being something im not in what i say... i won't have to have the best jokes or the best body language, i just can just be and naturally improve my verbals and body language without experiencing chronic rejection. So, to put it in numerical terms, if i was a 6 out of 10 in looks, my personality/game (post minute) will probably have to be a 8+ to get chance at her pussy. If i'm a 9+ in looks, my personality/game will probably to be 5+ to get a chance at her pussy. I'd rather stress about my looks then stress about being myself and what i say.

So, i mean the guy you posted, he's got big blue eyes and he's white and looks somewhat masculine and is thin, all things girls value a lot. Also, if he really is as successful as you claim, then his personality in regards to attraction females, is probably a 9+. I have a lot of work to do to get that point. It's less work for me, in my case, and less painful, to make myself a 9+ in looks. (assuming it's even possible for my genetics .... but im pretty naturally good looking to it might be. WE'll have to wait and see. ) Money is the biggest gripe i have with my plan.. it's a $3000+ expense to check al lthe boxes i need to be a top tier looking male.

Post: #29

(01-15-2019 10:58 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

(01-06-2019 05:50 AM)aswifty Wrote:  Girls hate a disheveled looking man

This just isn't true. I'd argue they hate a man who looks too polished to the point of looking metrosexual.

That's a good point that i certainly considered. And sometimes i wonder, some of the girls i approach aren't interested because they see me as too good looking relative to themselves. But, as Roosh argued in his book, which i agree with, girls these days want the super clean stylish male model type of guy. Girls just aren't so much into the rugged musty masculine guy as much as the lean stylish pretty boy who smells like perfume as they use to be. Again, it's worth experimenting with it...

My said to my friends last night, "I feel like i'm trying to be TOO superficial." and he laughed, he said, "You can never be too superficial to hot girls, they're the most superficial people on the planet." He may be correct.

Post: #30

More looks = higher probability of getting laid

That is to say,

If you aren't good looking it's not like you have ZERO probability of getting laid.

You probably have less chance than a guy who's got his looks together but you can still try as you continue to improve your looks.

Post: #31

A friend of mine here in Toronto had an issue like this. His looks and charm (or lack thereof) were getting him shot down 100% of the time. He is South American, here only 2 yrs, his English was poor at best. Short, foreign, awkward, awful shape it was a death sentence in this city.

He started lifting, religously. His command of the English language improved so dramatically in such short order it was truely a sight to behold. He turned his endless frustration into discipline and confidence.

It was difficult, he dissapeared for weeks on end, but he kept pushing his mind and body. It was a huge hurdle, nowadays he helps young dudes at work get in shape, takes guys under his wing. Hes respected, he still gets shot down from time to time, however by the time he was "ready" to start getting back into it with girls again he didnt give a shit about girls anymore, he does well with chicks as a result of not caring. He is happy, self improvement and more importantly constant self improvement nevers let you down.

You cant buy, or steal, or negotiate for discipline and work ethic. You want it, or you dont want it. Simple as that.