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loremipsum · 12-28-2018 08:48 AM

(12-28-2018 12:15 AM)scorpion Wrote: After enough deep thinking it becomes clear that the entirety of your existence - everything that you know, and are, and have experienced, in sum - is just a giant black pill. This is because the act of pondering the existence of everything that is, and that you are, necessarily invites the uncomfortable cognitive exercise of pondering the nonexistence of the very same. And in doing so it becomes terrifyingly clear that everything that you are, and know, and have experienced is not only entirely ephemeral in nature but completely beyond your capacity to control. Your existence is so utterly fleeting and meaningless in the face of the abyss of nonexistence that its impossible to properly convey. It's like a single spec of dust compared to the entire Earth. The void of nonexistence is infinite and all-encompassing and will erase everything that has ever happened on this planet. This is the inevitable conclusion any philosopher ultimately reaches after lengthily pondering a godless, material universe. The weight of this conclusion is so overpowering and oppressive that there are only two ways to deal with it. The first is basically to ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist. Denial and distraction. The second is to look outside the material world - which is intrinsically and inevitably doomed by its very physical structure - and seek the Eternal which exists beyond it.

tl;dr God is the only actual escape from the black pill that is what we know as reality. Everything else is denial, distraction, or despair.

Pretty much this. I thought when I got tons of bangs, popularity among peers and freedom to pursue my goals it would be enough to fill the void. It was not, although I feel materially better than ever.
As years go by, even at the happiest moments the thought of the primordial void waiting is always there.

Brother Abdul Majeed · 12-28-2018 09:34 AM

(12-28-2018 02:38 AM)Built to Fade Wrote: ... is the White Pill.

Whoa Nelly, slow down, I'm only just starting to learn about this black pill stuff.
You're already racing ahead to the next pill.

[email protected] · 12-28-2018 10:42 AM

(12-27-2018 11:40 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote: Another weird thing is that the years themselves become blurred in your memory and more monochromatic. In my twenties and thirties, each year had a distinct personality and feel, and I could remember all of them with specific visual pictures in my head. But when those years start piling up after about age forty, they become faceless and start to blend into one another. So even your memories start to become dull.

And so, as time goes on, you feel less and less like traveling, meeting new people, or even dating. A general feeling of disgust and inertia begins to creep in, like life is a song you've heard too many times. It's hard to shake the feeling once you've experienced this.

I get why old people are miserable. Beyond the aches and pains, the world doesn't seem like the same place it was when you were young. It feels like a ghost town, or an empty shopping mall during a recession. Trying to change also feels like going through the motions, since chances are you did that before.

Great post. I'm not there yet (early 40's) but I have seen this happen and kind of expect it to happen to most of us.

But honestly, I don't think it's a bad thing.

I have often heard many old people, in their last years, talk not fearing death. It's almost like serenity in their last years. Younger me was absolutely confused by this. "How can the elderly not fear death?" Was it because they just accepted the inevitable? Was it because they were ready for the next journey? Perhaps it's a combination of both?

So in a sense I almost welcome the day when death will just be the next big adventure. I'm not there yet of course, but it's a comforting thought that someday I'll be truly at peace with that. At least, I hope.

One of the real tragedies in life are the ones who die young and don't get to experience all the good and bad life offers. It's one thing to have "been there, done that" but for the ones who haven't "been there, done that"...it's a real tragedy.

So live the fullest life you can. And then smile because it happened.

kaotic · 12-28-2018 12:50 PM

Now I'm in my early 30's so maybe I haven't hit that wall yet.

I guess I'll never understand black pill, nihilism, or MGTOW concepts.

I've never been susceptible to depression or saying "fuck this".

I see people talk about depression or being in a rut in life and I don't understand why they can't change their mindeset or lifestyle, it blows my mind.

I don't let the political climate control my life and actions, I can have friend who think differently than me (noone wants an echo chamber).

I don't let women control my life and actions either, as of late women have become secondary in my pleasures in life.

Getting women was never an issue, getting a good quality woman was (I'm working on that).

Lately there's a thought in my head that I need to move on from a job I'm currently at.

Call it a midlife career crisis - but I've been looking at options and signed up for some online training in a relatable field.

I'm making changes in my life, I've even stopped drinking booze/drugs dramatically.

Circling back to the black pill, mgtow, and nihilism.

Even with a not so great childhood with no real parents having to grow up on my own, I still turned out a decent kid, hell I even lost my virginity at 15.

I lost a few friends to accidents and murders (one a mass shooting), had a pretty gnarley breakup with my first love, and broke things off with a good woman/my last love.

None of this has driven me towards any of the 3 I mentioned.

I still find enjoyment in life, in debating issues, in traveling and exploring new places.

In fact I feel the opposite of being shut in, I want to get on my Harley with randoms on a group ride and hear their stories, I love making new friends and networking.

Dating felt like NPC programming but I've been more honest and realistic with my dating, while I may not have multiple dates a week like I did a year ago, I did that out of a positive choice in not wasting my time with low quality women and rather investing a bit more time into the ones that are worth it.

I'm barely getting into the best shape of my life in the last 2 years and it's showing.

I still have hope in my fellow human beings despite the political culture/climate.

I've always been a curious and adventurous guy and I always love learning new things.

One thing I used to be was a voracious reader, that's slowed down to nill, reason being my limited amount of time. This is another change I'm trying to make, hopefully with audio books when doing cardio or working OT.

I guess it all depends on your mindset and where you want to take it.

As for the white pill ?

I've never had an interest, born/raised Muslim, walked away in my early teens and never had another thought about it, I even went to a few church meetings with friends for things like funerals or a teen night - it just didn't add up nor sit right with me.

Alot of religion is a blind leap of faith in its teachings with a decently structured organization which have become the foundations of some great civilizations.

Personally I just have no interest in salvation or the afterlife.

I'm more concerned about my actions here while I'm alive and my own well being and the well being of the ones I love.

sterlingarcher · 12-28-2018 01:15 PM

I recently met this guy in London that was the epitome of black pilled;

Recently been divorce raped, knows what's up with the elites, believes PREMIERSHIP FOOTBALL IS RIGGED (!!) and spends weekends at home with the curtains drawn hiding from the third world paradise.

I should nudge him in this direction...

RoastBeefCurtains4Me · 12-28-2018 01:40 PM

(12-28-2018 01:15 PM)sterlingarcher Wrote: I recently met this guy in London that was the epitome of black pilled;

Recently been divorce raped, knows what's up with the elites, believes PREMIERSHIP FOOTBALL IS RIGGED (!!) and spends weekends at home with the curtains drawn hiding from the third world paradise.

I should nudge him in this direction...

This makes a good point. The more black pilled you are, the more you might conclude everything is rigged, and you're fucked no matter what you do, so the only reasonable response is withdrawal.

I don't think this is the right answer, and therefore, the black pill is called into question.

A lot of things the black pill is based upon are true, and yet, the best strategy in life is to build your own little bubble for yourself, your loved ones, friends, and community, and live the good life as best you can.

Some men like Donald Trump find themselves in a position to build a large bubble that lifts up the whole world, but most people will have to settle for building a much smaller bubble. Almost everybody can build some kind of bubble of order, love, security, and companionship around themselves.

~~Heuristics~~ · 12-28-2018 02:08 PM

If we are going by the definition of black-pilled that I am thinking of, which means nihilist with the belief that everything is rigged/ fake or lacks authenticity or meaning, or that the world is in inevitable decline already, than I was for a while.

In fact, I used to walk around wearing solid black, thinking it was the only color suitable for conveying my black-pilled status (as Emo and immature as that may sound). People were like, dude what the fuck is the deal with all the black? I would say usually "it's a utilitarian color and adequately conveys my mood."

I would sit in my apartment smoking two packs of cigarettes daily and mutter things like, "international banking is rigged and is a ponzi scheme, social security won't be there for me thanks to my boomer parents. They are devaluing the dollar to such a point that soon all I will be able to buy is potatoes." That was fun, but at some point I realized my living situation painfully resembled that of Japanese herbivore men, or closer to home, paranoid conspiracy theorists, so that gave me pause. Although I had no social anxiety so to speak, I would go outside in dark glasses and dark clothes to avoid other normies. My belief was that all media were hacks, so there no getting news from the internet, tv, etc-- i just had to settle for hearing about major events from friends or hearing the radio in the store. But even that ground my gears because I didn't want any news at all, keeping in mind it was all elite-coast propaganda produced by neo-marxist globalist shills. Conspiracy theories all seemed to mix together with similar plots, or perhaps they were fabricated by globalists to keep us in the dark of some deeper truth. This led me to the realization that I'd have to move to the wilderness and take the green/luddite pill because civilization was probably almost 100 percent toxic, and that just wasn't appealing to me at all. Nature is one tough bitch and I need my hot water. I also flirted with anti-social behavior, I will not delve into details (although nothing destructive), but I thought society was going to collapse anyway, so it was just better to hasten the collapse and get on to the rebuilding phase if it would even get to that. With the thought that civilization was crumbling, there's not much to do other than to enjoy the decline as they say, but even then, that wasn't even that fun, because you're imagining yourself in Weimar-era Germany surrounded by degeneracy and then realizing if everything is in fact collapsing, you don't want to be anywhere near degeneracy. In fact, that's probably what snapped me out of it. When it's all said and done I'd rather be around my family, enjoying nature, or producing something of value than being someone enjoying the burning building's heat.

People are free to take the black pill but it is logically inconsistent with making yourself a better person, pickup, etc. In fact, try picking up a girl while being black pilled. They will pick up immediately on your negative energy. It is roughly comparable to doing pickup as a smelly homeless man. I have yet to meet any black-pilled women, because women can't really be black pilled. It is impossible, they get validation from men, men take care of them, government takes care of them, they can have children if they really want to couple up with a man, they're not hurt by current economic conditions as much as men, they are more social than men, and so on.

scorpion · 12-28-2018 02:26 PM

I would differentiate between three different types of black pills:

1) The personal black pill. This is where the vast majority of black-pilled people would be categorized. Their darkened outlook is entirely a consequence of their negative personal circumstances and their inability to cope with them. They think that everything is shit simply because their life is shit (even if their life is not actually shit, they think it is for one reason or another). These are people unable to get beyond their own ego, and thus since they view themselves as the center of the world, become black-pilled on the world because they are black-pilled on themselves.

2) The social black pill. This is where most red-pilled people end up if they slip into a black-pilled state. Unlike the personal black piller, the social black piller has conquered his own ego, but remains firmly attached to his place in the world. Being socially black-pilled is characterized by an obsession with the greater problems of the world and society in general. The social black piller might have his own life in fairly good order, but he despairs about the condition of the world outside of his direct control. He finds himself caught up in greater meta-narratives and social shifts that leave him feeling powerless. The result is a constant fixation on imminent doom, and the general idea that society is going to hell in a handbasket.

3) The existential black pill. This is the blackest of the black pills, and one that most people are incapable of swallowing because they can't get past their own egos and the particulars of their personal circumstances. This is the black pill of the philosopher, the theologian and the wise man. It is the recognition that ultimately everything in life is fruitless and will pass away into nothingness. Death makes a mockery of man's sense of importance. All of his achievements are erased and even the greatest men will ultimately be forgotten. On a long enough timeline, the human race will go extinct and the sun will burn out. There is no escape. Death swallows everything.

The correct response to being black pilled thus depends on the particular black pill you've swallowed. If you're personally black pilled, it's a sign that you need to take corrective action in your life to address the problems holding you back. Essentially it is a call to self-improvement. If you're socially black pilled it's an indication that you need to take concrete action to improve the lives of those around you whom you can have a direct influence on. This not only serves to improve your community, but gives you personal satisfaction and a sense of power over the world that the social black pill robs from you. And if you are existentially black pilled, it's a sign that you need to seek out spiritual understanding and wisdom that cannot be obtained by focusing on the material world. It is a clarion call to seek out God and to discover the humility and grace that accompanies the recognition of God's absolute sovereignty over creation.

Mortay · 12-28-2018 02:40 PM

“Whether you think you can, or you think you can’t – you’re right” - Henry Ford

This sums up to me whether you are black pilled or white pilled. My problem is I shift back and forth between the two too often. I just can't get out of my own way. Self defeatism is a motherfucker.

heavy · 12-28-2018 03:01 PM

(12-27-2018 11:40 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote: ...
And so, as time goes on, you feel less and less like traveling, meeting new people, or even dating. A general feeling of disgust and inertia begins to creep in, like life is a song you've heard too many times. It's hard to shake the feeling once you've experienced this.

I get why old people are miserable. Beyond the aches and pains, the world doesn't seem like the same place it was when you were young. It feels like a ghost town, or an empty shopping mall during a recession. Trying to change also feels like going through the motions, since chances are you did that before.
...

Good, brutally honest post DOBA. I heard a guy once say something like...

"Oh yeah, your 30 and going through some tough times? You know what would be worse? Being a 60 year old billionaire. What 60 year old billionaire wouldn't give it all up to be 30 again."

Stuck with me.

Kurgan · 12-28-2018 09:36 PM

I've been more cynical than being black-pilled due to various events in life. I just realize I have only one life so I have to make it great despite my status.

Syberpunk · 12-29-2018 12:23 AM

(12-28-2018 12:18 AM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:
(12-27-2018 10:55 PM)The Beast1 Wrote: Nope.

What do MGTOWs, incels, game denialists, and "black pillers" all have in common?

Nihilism. Or otherwise known as defeatism.

Life’s too short to not go down swinging.

You're misappropriating terms. Pure nihilism is really just logic and realism. It is the rejection of religiously derived moralizing in favor of viewing the world rationally and acting according to the principles of consequentialism (ie that which is "good" and "right" is that which leads to a favorable outcome). I expect the reason the term has a bad rep around here is that people have wrongly grouped the pathologies plaguing our society under its aegis. These people think SJWism and all the rest of the extreme ills derived from the modern Left have their roots in nihilism whereas in reality the exact opposite is the case.

The reason the West is on the brink of annihilation is that our "judeo-christian" morality, which even under the best of circumstances carries within it seeds of evolutionary poison, has been completely weaponized to destroy us. We're surrendering our lands to foreign invaders and baring our necks to the sword not because of a "lack of morals" (nihilism) but because of an overwhelming, all-consuming submission to an insane system of morality that rejects reason and logic (nihilism) in favor of perverse virtue signaling. What drives an SJW is rabid adherence to a disgusting belief/moral system, not nihilism, which is the total absence of any such system.

A nihilist views this image and thinks, "if these people come to my lands, they will lead to my ruin. They must be stopped or I will suffer adverse consequences, that is obvious based on both simple logic and empirical evidence from history". This is the healthy response, based on logic and reason and it results in the correct action- resistance by any means necessary to invasion which if not stopped will lead to death or slavery in due course. The nihilist sees all this clearly because he is unburdened by inflexible notions of "right" and "wrong" that can at times seek to completely override even the most basic of survival instincts.

What does a sick Western cuck think when seeing this picture? "these people need my help. I must let them in, this is the right thing to do. It's the moral thing to do, based on what the bible/TV-man/Schlomo has told me".

The difference here is obvious. The Western cuck is destined to death or slavery precisely because of his slavish devotion to a perverse morality that forces him to ignore easily foreseeable causes and consequences in order to subjugate himself to "morals" where something is "moral" based not on Reason but what the bible/TV-man/Schlomo has said you should do even when your basic human instincts send you flashing warning signals.

I'm not saying nihilism is the best or even a good worldview. But it sure beats what we have right now in the West. If we as a People rejected our (((moral values))) in favor of nihilism, we might not end up with a pleasant, polite society but boy oh goy our road to extinction would be reversed so fast it'd make your Yarmulke spin.

I've heard one too many times from normies "I didn't agree with Hitler, but at least he got shit done and fast". Makes you think.

I've come to the point regarding the changing of Europe is already inevitable and won't be making many more posts about it, truth of the matter is if we were so damn good as a civilization would we give up? if we were so damn good wouldn't the majority see through the propaganda. That's why I come to this forum, redpillage had a good post on this in the migrant thread.

You shouldn't have to be told this, a discerning mind would pinpoint it, so we might bleat "we deserve what we have, our civilization", well I say "you do and yet reality says you don't, the world think or the universe will will it towards you through some law of attraction."

Aaron Clarey (who people don't give enough credit to) was hard balled for this video in the comments a year ago because he pointed out and NAILS what is the most likely thing to happen, and it disgusts me that he is right, it is sad and I have to be realistic, he's right. His video shook me. I don't see cynicism, I see reality, there will be a short last fake nationalist surge in Europe (which all the youtubers will rejoice over) and then it will be smothered by numbers alone. He tells the guy to not throw his life away. A decent civilization would listen to the Swedish man in the video, in the first place.

FUCKING WORDS WE'RE SCARED OF, its like trying to talk to, pet and calm down a panicked animal in the corner.

I first came to the blackpill through my weakening physical health, looking for answers to my pain from Alex Jones to natural cures and diets to places like this, its bizarre how my physical health ended me up on journey taking a bunch of different tangents so diverse, all paths leading to the same main road and problem I started with...what can help me? And what can you do now? When you feel shit the world feels like a battle and its easy to see all of it as a battle to make it easier to cope with as a way to avoid confronting the other black pill, people aren't having battles in the modern world of any real magnitiude, they're enjoying life and the whole "Everybody struggles", is not true at all. I think this is something people with problems and health issues tell themselves feel better about their current predicament, because seeing other people enjoy them themselves thoroughly with no caveat, while they are not, will make you despair....I know it sure did for me. Sometimes you're just alone and that's all there is to it really.

Most people are not in an existential battle and they never will be, because life dictates they never set foot on that field and mostly because most people if thrown there, they can't handle if they do, the ones that do get put there and are of strong enough temper and steel to survive.........you never hear from them, and they never complain, but some post here, that's why I'm on this forum. To see others like that, not even for the game sections or life sections, to hear the unvarnished truth mostly.

I'm actually incredibly positive and outgoing, talky in real life if you meet me, mainly to push this stuff away and I don't like to think about it, but I think unlike most I can admit to giving it some thought, because life forced me to, even if it wasn't necessary or even fruitful to have done so.

I second everything Heuristics said in his above post and its long past the time I start taking my own advice I give regarding the media.

Syberpunk · 12-29-2018 12:45 AM

(12-28-2018 12:18 AM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:
(12-27-2018 10:55 PM)The Beast1 Wrote: Nope.

What do MGTOWs, incels, game denialists, and "black pillers" all have in common?

Nihilism. Or otherwise known as defeatism.

Life’s too short to not go down swinging.

You're misappropriating terms. Pure nihilism is really just logic and realism. It is the rejection of religiously derived moralizing in favor of viewing the world rationally and acting according to the principles of consequentialism (ie that which is "good" and "right" is that which leads to a favorable outcome). I expect the reason the term has a bad rep around here is that people have wrongly grouped the pathologies plaguing our society under its aegis. These people think SJWism and all the rest of the extreme ills derived from the modern Left have their roots in nihilism whereas in reality the exact opposite is the case.

The reason the West is on the brink of annihilation is that our "judeo-christian" morality, which even under the best of circumstances carries within it seeds of evolutionary poison, has been completely weaponized to destroy us. We're surrendering our lands to foreign invaders and baring our necks to the sword not because of a "lack of morals" (nihilism) but because of an overwhelming, all-consuming submission to an insane system of morality that rejects reason and logic (nihilism) in favor of perverse virtue signaling. What drives an SJW is rabid adherence to a disgusting belief/moral system, not nihilism, which is the total absence of any such system.

A nihilist views this image and thinks, "if these people come to my lands, they will lead to my ruin. They must be stopped or I will suffer adverse consequences, that is obvious based on both simple logic and empirical evidence from history". This is the healthy response, based on logic and reason and it results in the correct action- resistance by any means necessary to invasion which if not stopped will lead to death or slavery in due course. The nihilist sees all this clearly because he is unburdened by inflexible notions of "right" and "wrong" that can at times seek to completely override even the most basic of survival instincts.

What does a sick Western cuck think when seeing this picture? "these people need my help. I must let them in, this is the right thing to do. It's the moral thing to do, based on what the bible/TV-man/Schlomo has told me".

The difference here is obvious. The Western cuck is destined to death or slavery precisely because of his slavish devotion to a perverse morality that forces him to ignore easily foreseeable causes and consequences in order to subjugate himself to "morals" where something is "moral" based not on Reason but what the bible/TV-man/Schlomo has said you should do even when your basic human instincts send you flashing warning signals.

I'm not saying nihilism is the best or even a good worldview. But it sure beats what we have right now in the West. If we as a People rejected our (((moral values))) in favor of nihilism, we might not end up with a pleasant, polite society but boy oh goy our road to extinction would be reversed so fast it'd make your Yarmulke spin.

I've heard one too many times from normies "I didn't agree with Hitler, but at least he got shit done and fast". Makes you think.

I've come to the point regarding the changing of Europe is already inevitable, truth of the matter is if we were so damn good as a civilization would we give up? if we were so damn good wouldn't the majority see through the propaganda. That's why I come to this forum, redpillage had a good post on this in the migrant thread

You shouldn't have to be told this, a discerning mind would pinpoint it, so we might bleat "we deserve what we have", well you do, but doesn't mean the world think or the universe will will through some law of attraction.

Aaron Clarey (who people don't give enough credit too, he was cynical and it puts people) who was hard balled for this video in the comments a year ago because he pointed out and NAILS what is the most likely thing to happen, and it digusts me that is right, but it is sad and I have to be realistic, he's right. His video shook me. I don't see cynicism, I see reality, there will be a short last fake nationalist surge in Europe (which all the youtubers will rejoice over) and then it will be smothered by numbers alone. He tells the guy to not throw his life away.

tugofpeace · 12-29-2018 12:58 AM

Im only 30 but I’ve spent a lot of time alone just thinking about this stuff. Moreso than is normal.. my end thought is this:

Your life consists of your years.
Your years consist of your months, which consist of your weeks, your days, your hours, your minutes, and ultimately, your seconds.

Within your seconds you can either experience happiness (pleasure in your current activity, or a fond memory), sadness (discontent with your current activity, or a negative memory), or nothing (flow state).

I can experience either of those three emotions but ultimately, the only ones worth having are happiness and the flow state. I can condition my mind to immediately switch out of any sad emotion that occurs.

Which means my life will be extremely pleasurable.

All this talk of philosophy, black pill, nihilism, etc, is utterly useless. No value. So I just dont think about it. You could call this denial, I guess..

Hypugamy · 12-29-2018 12:39 PM

I think being black pilled has to do with many factors. Your age first and foremost, your occupations and who you are surrounded by, and your physical well-being.

I do not set out to have a black pill mindset, but I try and find evidence for hope which is difficult. As you get older, you inevitably get trapped by decisions you made at an earlier age, so you can no longer just imagine yourself moving to another country/city on a whim, completely changing occupations, and still be young and virile like in your 20's. A lot of men feel their options in life reduced, which leads to a feeling of futility and nihilism. Not having children also contributes to this, as it is difficult to be invested in the future when all you see is your own life.

Roosh did a podcast on the black pill. I think the way he phrased it was that it's impossible to not have some black streaks in your red pill awareness. Watching his videos of the last year, it is hard to not come away with the black pilled impression, even though he is still chasing his unicorn in eastern Europe.

What comes to my mind is: Is it possible for an American or Canadian man to be so dissatisfied with local women than he has to go to foreign countries to not be black pilled to some extent?

GT777733 · 12-29-2018 08:25 PM

If I was an older guy, or if I was a guy that had been struck down by a shitty event (divorce, health, financial etc.), or if I had thought I had wasted my life making shitty decisions, I'd do these things:

1. Get myself in order, and get myself feeling good on a basic level again (exercise daily for 5 to 10 minutes, eat a little better, pick up a basic side activity or hustle)
2. Take stock of my life - understand my past, and get a realistic idea in my head about what my future holds. Start making any plans for the future I need
3. Start passing on my lessons and experiences to future generations - through forums, through a YouTube channel, through your family and kids (if you have them) etc.
4. Figure out if there is any other good i can be doing in the world - in my community, online, in other countries etc.

You may not get to do all the things you want to in the future, but you'll make your own life and the future lives of many people a lot better by doing some or all of the above things.

I know the above is a lot easier said than done - so each person has to be patient with themselves to figure out what works best for them.

ilostabet · 12-30-2018 11:13 AM

My two cents (well, twenty two, as it's fairly long):

I don't like the fact that the Pill terminology was invented by those two trannies, but it is an apt and popular short hand for the age old concept (Plato's Cave being an analogy for the same I guess) of finding the truth that has been purposefully hidden. Everyone quickly understands it, and it does the job. So I don't fight it anymore – and this is the essence of the black pill in my view. You realize the truth about something, you realize you can't beat it, so rather than fighting a losing battle you work your way around it to make a point or build something.

I think there's a natural progression from each pill when a man contemplates the world, the black one being the last (and probably inevitable):

Blue Pill - You mostly have no idea what is going on, you still believe the pretty lies.
Purple Pill - You start seeing through some of the bullshit, you feel excited about finding the truth more and more, you think you can spread this knowledge around because it's not as 'out there'.
Red Pill - You lifted the veil, you now know the truth and it's ugly and you also know most people will hate you for being the bearer of good news. You get involved and actively try to change things but get frustrated as things keep getting worse around you, and the trend is not reversing.
Black Pill - You realize there's not much you can do about the state of the world, you give up fantasies of grandiose societal change.

I have been through this and I've seen many guys go through it. When they start to discover the hidden truths about women, feminism, sexual liberation, sodomites, race, JQ, usury, they get excited, then they want to change the world, then they get exasperated when they realize they are mostly impotent to change the spirit of the times and then they accept it.

The Black Pill is, in my view, essentially acceptance. It's not about giving up – that is one of the possible decisions. So the big question with all the pills, even though they relate to societal issues, is what to do on an individual level about your new found knowledge. Once the Blue Pill starts turning Red there's usually no turning back, and it ultimately leads to the realization that these trends will continue regardless of what you do. I am 30 now and, looking back to when I started thinking about thinks, I never thought our society was getting healthier, or things were improving or glorious new dawns awaited our civilization. No. I always had the feeling of decline, despite what the general consensus was, and coupled with it I always knew there were hidden agendas. And if you already have that mindset, you eventually go through the path I described, until you find yourself seeing how the 'sausage is made' and taking the Black Pill that most people want the sausage, will never even think about how its made and will resent you if you reveal it to them.

What do you do with this? Do you give in and keep eating up what the system feeds you (become a male feminist/diversity cheerleader)? Do you give up and check out of society (MGTOW, Incel, etc)? Or do you use the knowledge to better navigate the evils around you unharmed (act like a man, basically)?

There's another option for a few who refuse to accept the Black Pill – these would be the young naive types who follow people like Richard Spencer and ruin their lives for the 'movement', because they still believe in the fairy tale of redemption through politics and that the trend can be reversed. In away they are Red Pilled on some topics but utterly Blue Pill on the overall structure of society, because they think a few marches around town with torches or talking about the JQ in the office will do any good to society. I am not pointing fingers here, I was one of these lunatics for a while but luckily it didn't last long. Hopefully it doesn't last that long for most of these guys as well.

Across history you can read many men who have gone through the similar process of discovery and, usually acceptance, but it is a constant that most thinkers thought things were going to shit on a societal scale in their times as well. My conclusion is not that men who contemplate the world with an analytical mind and hunger for truth are predisposed to look at the worst and find it, but that contrary to the current orthodoxy we are not evolving and never have been, but instead we are subject to entropy – and that applies to individuals, communities, societies, civilizations and ultimately humanity itself along with all of life on earth. The adage about 'kids these days' or the nostalgic longing for a golden era is not specific to our times. It will always exist in every generation, in every society.

I still have this longing, but I have come the accept it and it made me focus on how to improve on a personal level, how to better the lives of those I love and care about, how to build something that is antifragile.

I recently watched a video of Roosh where he said something like this: society may be doomed to collapse, but there's individual salvation, there's community, family, friends, offspring and ultimately God. Most of us will not be thought leaders like Roosh or political leaders like Trump that can influence vast amounts of people. But we can do good in other, more local ways.

Two to three years ago, when I fully took the Red Pill I would be constantly furious, disgusted and frustrated at what our society had become, at how most people fell in line and refused to question anything. To be fair, I still do sometimes, but it's moments, not whole days or weeks. I am no longer in a state of frenzy and up in arms about the world's ills because I no longer think I can change the overall direction. I cannot stop thots from thoting, or stop sodomites from corrupting children, or stop third world immigrants from storming the borders, or stop corporations from turning people into mindless zombies or dismantle the usury cartel that promotes it all. But I can raise my daughter to be chaste and conscientious and I can raise my sons to be strong and see the world for what it is; I can educate my family on the true nature of mass immigration so they don't put themselves in needless danger; I can stop fueling the system by not buying useless crap and not getting into debt. And I can encourage others to the same in their own spheres of influence.

This is what the Black Pill is in my view: acceptance of reality. How you choose to deal with it is what's important.

Pride male · 12-30-2018 11:52 AM

It seems to me in the real world evil triumphs over good. Only the strong survive, life isn't fair.

~~Echovoid_52~~ · 12-30-2018 01:25 PM

Yeah, I'm black pilled but I'm not about to snuff it. Thought I would never bring a child into this world or get married, I still find enough pleasures in life that I'm not about to eat lead or completely snuff it.
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I've seen a lot of domestic violence go down in my day. I've seen abused children grow up to be murders. I've seen mothers of 3 year old toddlers gun down viciously and without mercy. I grew up in a house where domestic violence was always present and I still wonder to this day had shit really hit the fan would my father have become a family annihilator ala Chris Watts. I suffered years of abuse at the extent of his hand and while I got by okay at school (was an athlete with a decent social circle) there were plenty hardtimes of humiliation and ridicule there as well. Many of my friends are dead to suicide. They are already forgotten, some of them just laughed at for taking their own lives.

I've nearly given up on a life perusing romance and love and instead have become a hobbyist of prostitutes. I've seen it all. I know what the elite are up to, and I've hung out with elite model tier women, and I've also been with heroin addicted junkies who probably OD'd dead a week after our sexual encounter. I had a relationship with an escort (who I didn't pay) who promised me she'd come back and she never did and that was my last attempt as some sort of relationship with a woman beyond sex. I've had sex with a lot of women, not all prostitutes. I could never hold one down on the long term. I can't tell you how many women have said "I love you" to me in the past year or so and it's like it doesn't even register anymore. Empty words. Pillow talk. I'm completely unfazed because I know not to get sucked into that whole trap again... Getting caught up in blue-pilled feelings.

The world can be (more like is) a vicious, competitive, cruel, barbaric violent place and I would never bring some innocent, idyllic happy care free child into it. It is quite literally a Darwinian slaughterhouse. Is there beauty in it? Sure. But I plan to let my genes die out. I am not going to bring more children into this world.

Syberpunk · 12-30-2018 01:38 PM

(12-30-2018 11:13 AM)ilostabet Wrote:
My two cents (well, twenty two, as it's fairly long):

The Black Pill is, in my view, essentially acceptance. It's not about giving up – that is one of the possible decisions. So the big question with all the pills, even though they relate to societal issues, is what to do on an individual level about your new found knowledge. Once the Blue Pill starts turning Red there's usually no turning back, and it ultimately leads to the realization that these trends will continue regardless of what you do. I am 30 now and, looking back to when I started thinking about thinks, I never thought our society was getting healthier, or things were improving or glorious new dawns awaited our civilization. No. I always had the feeling of decline, despite what the general consensus was, and coupled with it I always knew there were hidden agendas. And if you already have that mindset, you eventually go through the path I described, until you find yourself seeing how the 'sausage is made' and taking the Black Pill that most people want the sausage, will never even think about how its made and will resent you if you reveal it to them.

There's another option for a few who refuse to accept the Black Pill – these would be the young naive types who follow people like Richard Spencer and ruin their lives for the 'movement', because they still believe in the fairy tale of redemption through politics and that the trend can be reversed. In away they are Red Pilled on some topics but utterly Blue Pill on the overall structure of society, because they think a few marches around town with torches or talking about the JQ in the office will do any good to society. I am not pointing fingers here, I was one of these lunatics for a while but luckily it didn't last long. Hopefully it doesn't last that long for most of these guys as well.

If you're down the hole, YOU MUST READ THESE FOLLOWING ARTICLES:

Blackdragon has (2) peerless posts on this:

http://blackdragonblog.com/2017/07/13/th...solutions/

The second part is even better:

http://blackdragonblog.com/2017/08/07/in...ns-part-2/

The greatest Bodybuilding.com forum thread in history from 2012, you could re-read it for the rest of your life if you can't be bothered with the other two posted above, please PLEASE just get to the end of this:

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea...251&page=1

MrLemon · 12-30-2018 02:36 PM

(12-28-2018 03:01 PM)heavy Wrote:
(12-27-2018 11:40 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote: ...
And so, as time goes on, you feel less and less like traveling, meeting new people, or even dating. A general feeling of disgust and inertia begins to creep in, like life is a song you've heard too many times. It's hard to shake the feeling once you've experienced this.

I get why old people are miserable. Beyond the aches and pains, the world doesn't seem like the same place it was when you were young. It feels like a ghost town, or an empty shopping mall during a recession. Trying to change also feels like going through the motions, since chances are you did that before.
...

Good, brutally honest post DOBA. I heard a guy once say something like...

"Oh yeah, your 30 and going through some tough times? You know what would be worse? Being a 60 year old billionaire. What 60 year old billionaire wouldn't give it all up to be 30 again."

Stuck with me.

Yeah. I actually had a neighbor who was a 60 year old half-billionaire. Seriously, you'd know his name, but I won't say it here. I chatted with him quite a bit, he was a decent guy but very guarded of course. He was miserable because he was so driven in his 30s that he lost his wife and kids. Never knew his kids growing up and now he was utterly alone even if rich.

DOBA I feel your pain. I'm not actually black pilled though, for two reasons. First, I love my kids and would jump in front a car to save them. I want grandkids. Second, I still love my career (although it's in the shitter). I get to discover new things and build new technologies,and that never gets old for me. at least not so far.

Travel, sex, and TV shows I have utterly lost interest.

velkrum · 12-30-2018 03:47 PM

Black pill expands your understanding of the way women (possibly society) see's you.

Read my "ALL PILL" POST from the game section

You can let it destroy you from the inside (if you are not conventionally attractive) OR you can be proactive and "LOOKS MAX" (A top priority within black pill ideology)

etwsake · 12-30-2018 04:19 PM

Yeah, I never really said it out loud but I realized about a year and a half ago that I have pretty much the black pill outlook on life.

Shit sucks, man.

I try to truly enjoy the fleeting moments of happiness, joy, peace, appreciation of beauty, awe, and wonder that I'm lucky enough to experience every now and then. But a vast majority of my existence is a pretty black hole of despair.

WonderKid666 · 12-31-2018 12:39 AM

I think its good to be black pilled to an extent. For me being black pilled means seeing reality for what it is. So yes, I am black pilled.

Pangloss · 12-31-2018 07:53 AM

Quote:
Penta Sahi wrote:

The Beast1 Wrote:
Life’s too short to not go down swinging.

This is the proper response. I think. This coming year will make or break me.

(Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to post a quote/link properly).

I'm in the same position, and I wonder if there aren't many other men who swallowed the 'red pill' over the last 10 years who've come to a point, partly due to age, that there must now be a step forward to a greater purpose and growth or a fall into a slow decay.

At some point, there are no more red pills to take, you either get it a deep enough level or you don't. I can't watch the news, films, I have no appreciation for current music or interest in mainstream society. I've also probably isolated myself too much recently. So, what's next?

The black pill to me means that no-one is going to fix my life, or society, but also that I can become strong and contribute in my own small way. After going through a fairly dark and lonely phase I realize all I can do is go forward; to always love the Good and reject evil along the way, rather than rejecting everything. Good does exist.

If society is broken, work to fix it; if your enemies are strong, become stronger; if communities or networks don't exist, build them. At this stage, one can either choose life and at least have the courage to act on achieving a higher purpose (whether it's family, religion, creating some kind of legacy or change), or not.

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