(12-19-2018 10:54 AM)KeepMovingForward Wrote: You gotta get out of your head and start making approaches. As you said, you're not around women much, so you can't expect to get laid sitting at home.
The story about your crush that you orbited for 5 years is very telling. You are blame shifting your problems with approach anxiety onto others, i.e. you blamed the "little shit youth who burst in the door and put me off." This person didn't put you off, you put yourself off. It's all in your mindset. You've gotta get through enough uncomfortable approaches to desensitize yourself to hitting on girls in front of other people. It takes and displays more balls to hit on a girl when she's surrounded by a crowd, girls will sense it and people who choose to watch will be impressed by your courage.
I know, I am very self conscious in social interactions. Since approaching I have got better with it. I've even approached a 15 year old girl in front of a bus stop full of passengers. When I asked her age and she replied I heard some tutting and "pffffting" in the crowd but I maintained my frame.
(12-19-2018 11:59 AM)eradicator Wrote: You have to keep improving yourself . Sure you can still do day game but you need to improve the rest of your life. Get fit, have a fun life instead of just being an approach machine
Quote:This is rubbish, like I said, I've been jacked since 2011 and it hasn't made women magically approach me.
Perhaps I should have read it, unfortunately at the time I saw myself as some sort of "antisocial rebel" and just wanted to get laid somehow without expressing interest in some women to boost their ego.
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You’re doing it wrong. If you are not showing any interest in women you are trying to bang they will next you
I know, but how do you show interest without appearing needy.
(12-19-2018 12:04 PM)polnischspeaker234 Wrote: Hey man
First of all I appreciate you sharing your story, however you've received (and will receive) quite a few negative responses because most people here don't really want to read paragraphs upon paragraphs detailing your awkwardness with women and confidence issues. Because of the dramatic title, I see that some people didn't even read your post and assumed you were planning a [email protected] sh00ting or something. I'll confess that even I skimmed through many parts, even though I'm generally interested in your story.
Secondly, if you're looking for sympathy you won't get it here. Here, people want to solve problems, and it's not entirely clear what your problems are (or if it is clear, it's buried under mountains of text). You said at one point, "where do I go from here?", and that's a very vague question which ultimately you have to decide. People on this forum can guide you down a certain path, but you have to choose which path. My only guidance is please don't give up. Coming here is a good step, and if you tell us specifically what you're doing to better yourself, or what you're struggling with, people will be more willing and able to help you.
It's not clear what your progress with daygame is. You say you've been approaching since April with little success. Tell us a bit more about your typical approach. Where do you do it? Do you approach women who are alone or groups? What age do you go for? What kind of things do you say? How do interactions typically end? Have you got any numbers? Perhaps start a journal on a separate thread.
I'm still relatively new to daygame but some good advice, if you're socially awkward and/or anxious, is to get used to talking to strangers in general. I have been trying this - starting conversations with strangers without intending to "game", just to get comfortable with chatting to random people. The following infographic really helps. It can feel very hard to apply this "D-pad" method in real life, because you might be nervous and find it hard to think of things which are more specific, more broad, or tangentially related, but the more you practise the better you'll get (I'm seeing improvements already), and hopefully there will come a time when I (and you!) can just do it without thinking. Roosh mentions "conversational bait" in his books Day Bang and Game, I recommend getting those 2 books if you can. Some others have mentioned How to Win Friends and Influence People, I recommend that too.
Infographic link: https://i.imgur.com/pqyEYax.jpg (I didn't attach the image because it was so huge)
If the link doesn't work, google search "Conversational D-Pad"
Finally, make sure you're taking action every day to somehow better yourself. If you're not approaching, you're reading a useful book. If you're not reading, you're watching something interesting on TV, something which either gives you something interesting to talk about (a documentary for example), or something which shows you how normal/likeable people interact (Roosh recommends Seinfeld, lol). Ever heard the phrase, "Knowing is half the battle"? That's true, it's only half the battle. Taking action is the ESSENTIAL other half, so go do it.
I approach women in groups and alone. Alone is best, because I can focus my attention on them, if they are in a pair or a group, it's completely impossible to stop them without imposing myself on them which can have an intimidating impact.
My primary interest is women aged 18-25. I need to have sex with a few in this age group before I am too old.
(12-19-2018 12:08 PM)kaotic Wrote: (12-19-2018 06:18 AM)TheLegendofBentCock Wrote: How wrong was I. I saw my first female autopsy video in March 2011. I was hooked. I found more autopsy videos, from the third world, mostly China and India.
I masturbated up to 7 times per day to these videos, they were sheer ecstasy to me. More arousing than any porn could ever be. Seeing a woman starting as a whole, naked woman and then being stripped down to her component parts was just such a turn on for reasons I still don't understand.
Just knowing about autopsies was a turn on, I couldn't stop thinking about all the young prime women who would have been autopsied over the centuries. It was just a realization
of sheer arousal but then pure guilt and self loathing at the same time.
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(12-19-2018 12:24 PM)realologist Wrote: Please get yourself locked in an insane asylum before you rape and kill 17 women that look exactly like your first love that dumped you and when you finally get caught up, commit suicide by cop due to the shame.
She didn't dump me, she never even knew who I was, whereas I knew everything about her. I've got to 30 without harming anyone, so I don't see why I would start now.
(12-19-2018 02:12 PM)Montrose Wrote: OP your sanity is very worrying IMO because you are not only autistic, but you sound psychotic as well (your analysis of your situation is way off) and you like dismembered women. I would seek professional help, if you haven’t.
Elaborate on my psychosis as I don't understand what you mean.
(12-19-2018 02:50 PM)RWIsrael Wrote: (12-19-2018 12:08 PM)kaotic Wrote: (12-19-2018 06:18 AM)TheLegendofBentCock Wrote: How wrong was I. I saw my first female autopsy video in March 2011. I was hooked. I found more autopsy videos, from the third world, mostly China and India.
I masturbated up to 7 times per day to these videos, they were sheer ecstasy to me. More arousing than any porn could ever be. Seeing a woman starting as a whole, naked woman and then being stripped down to her component parts was just such a turn on for reasons I still don't understand.
Just knowing about autopsies was a turn on, I couldn't stop thinking about all the young prime women who would have been autopsied over the centuries. It was just a realization
of sheer arousal but then pure guilt and self loathing at the same time.
![[Image: giphy.gif]](https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohs7N0iXvc180MiB2/giphy.gif)
WTF? I guess I missed this weird/evil shit between the walls of text.
I feel dirty for even replying to this thread.
OP if you're reading this - get professional help and soon!
What is weird/evil about it? Are the autopsy doctors who actually dissect the women weird/evil as well?
Are you even aware what happens to a person once they die?
An autopsy is a standard procedure, even on a prime 18-25 female.
In fact, especially on a young person they are likely to person an autopsy.
Like I said, I don't understand why it is a turn on, all I know is that in 2011 I discovered something very dark about myself and I have to live with that, but in doing so I have harmed
no one.
(12-19-2018 05:36 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote: (12-19-2018 04:25 PM)eradicator Wrote: I only skimmed through this initially, missed the part about op getting off on watching women get chopped up. What the fuck
Don't worry, it was probably all bullshit, a fairly obvious troll job by a new member. He probably knew the story would get him banned.
(12-19-2018 11:06 PM)CleanSlate Wrote: Alhough OP is already banned, I thought this was too well written to be real.
It may be real and there may well be guys in dire need of professional help that are truly falling through the cracks.
But, getting my tin foil hat out now, it may also be a concerted esoteric troll job designed to bait this forum into being an Elliot Rodgers-esque sympathizer, a perfect excuse to really go after this forum and shut it down.
The way it was written, it just seems too... too... unnatural.
There is nothing unnatural about my story, and believe me, I wish my life was normal.
NOW WHERE IS THE FRIGGIN ANGER TOWARDS THE AUTOPSY FUCKING DOCTORS!?
(12-20-2018 02:13 AM)Dodgy Wrote: (12-19-2018 11:06 PM)CleanSlate Wrote: Alhough OP is already banned, I thought this was too well written to be real.
It may be real and there may well be guys in dire need of professional help that are truly falling through the cracks.
But, getting my tin foil hat out now, it may also be a concerted esoteric troll job designed to bait this forum into being an Elliot Rodgers-esque sympathizer, a perfect excuse to really go after this forum and shut it down.
The way it was written, it just seems too... too... unnatural.
I will shut this forum down single handedly if Roosh continues to take action against me, I will end his forum and end him if necessary.
I think he was just trolling laughs. Take a look at this snippet of troll gold and tell me if someone out there legitimately believes this:
(12-14-2018 07:08 AM)TheLegendofBentCock Wrote: These guys here act like lifting weights will solve all you're problems, but it doesn't. It probably just makes women more scared because you're testosterone is off the scale and they think you are gonna rape them.
I am turned on by the female body, I find it fascinating, both on the outside and on the inside.
When you see a uterus being dissected, it is incredible to think that is what makes the babies.
It is a complex and fascinating biological machine and also very beautiful.
I don't understand why the anger is not directed to the autopsy doctors who actually cut the women up. Why is it directed to me? Without autopsies, I would have never discovered this fetish.
You are free to go on Youtube and see the videos for yourselves.
I thought you guys were accepting my situation, I didn't realise you had just lazily skimmed my thread.
Do you think I like having an autopsy fetish!? I've been through hell and back with it, now you are trying to belittle my struggle.
I should have been balls deep in pussy in my early 20s, not stuck in a darkened uni flat masturbating to dead cadavers being taken apart.
It was never my choice, but I'll be damned if I have to feel bad about it anymore.
I just want to have sex with women in their late teens/early 20s but I find it so hard to relate to women at all. So when I stop them they are like "what the hell does this guy even want!?".
I am gonna go out today for an hour of day game. But I hate the feeling of being a stalker, having to follow women and catch up to them and cut them off in their tracks.
It just feels so predatory to me and has the effect of putting me in my head.
If I didn't get banned I would post my field reports from earlier this year, but Roosh has spoilt that and now I must spoil him.