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(11-29-2018 11:23 AM)Tex Wrote:  I literally learned about this guy in my professional responsibility class Monday. It's still interesting to think about even though it's old, so here's the video:




This is literally unbelievable, and reminds me of witchcraft accusations in Medieval Europe.

Perhaps men will soon be thrown in prison on the basis of charms, enchantments, or similar wizardry based crimes? Should we spend tax dollars on a modern day Azkaban for these seductive dark arts practicioners?

Is there ANY depth women will not sink to, to avoid taking responsibility for their actions??
11-29-2018 11:50 AM
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I don't know how I feel about this. On one hand I am utterly dumbfounded you can do this, then on the other hand I'm underwhelmed he would waste his talents on these post-wall women that nobody wants.
11-29-2018 01:49 PM
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Giving whole meaning to the expression "dicknotized".

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There is some major crazy Salem Witchhunt shit happening here.

"Oh your honor, this man BEWITCHED ME with the POWER OF SATAN and I could not stop myself from fornicating with him!! "
11-29-2018 02:20 PM
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(11-29-2018 11:50 AM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  Is there ANY depth women will not sink to, to avoid taking responsibility for their actions??

Is that a trick question? Banana
11-29-2018 02:22 PM
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(11-29-2018 01:49 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  I don't know how I feel about this. On one hand I am utterly dumbfounded you can do this, then on the other hand I'm underwhelmed he would waste his talents on these post-wall women that nobody wants.

When I was in college, a hypnotist came and put on a demonstration. He asked all of us to close our eyes and then he gave us simple instructions like, imagine this, breathe like this, think about this.

When he was done, most of us looked at him expectantly, and at the same time, there were a small percentage of the students, something like five out of two hundred, who stayed in the trance. They were just sitting there, heads lowered, eyes closed.

Turns out I knew one of them, most of them were women, and she was a really cute basketball player, about five eleven. Afterwards, I grilled her on what had happened, and she couldn't explain it. It was like she just naturally obeyed all his commands and fell into and stayed in a trance just as naturally as the rest of us were all playing along.

It was very mysterious at the time and of course, as a guy, the first thing you think is how awesome it would be to hypnotize women like that.

Later on I read up on hypnosis some, and found out that this scenario is very common, and that hypnotists have several techniques that test people for suggestibility, and that with experience, they are very good at sizing up who is suggestible and good at following the lead of an authority, which is basically what a hypnotist is.

It is all very sticky however in terms of legality and blame. On a certain level, it is reasonable to assume that there is som level of consent going on with these women, and that their minds are playing along with the fantasy of what he is doing, being hypnotized and being naughty with the lawyer in his office is certainly not something that no woman has ever thought of, and the hypnosis aspect removes all responsibility for them.

So they are in a state of knowing and not knowing at the same time which is very similar to being in a state of full hamster, or, as I once heard a woman put it, 'Rationalizing is the key to ignoring your conscience and still sleeping at night."

On the other hand, the whole concept of suggestibility is an extremely strange one, and we all know that kids and people with Down Syndrome are very suggestible, and that they can be influenced to do things that aren't good for them, and if you did that, it certainly would be your fault.

So how do you decide what exactly is going on here? Some people who used to practice hypnosis now believe that suggestibility is all that matters and that you don't need trances or anything like that, you just need to get them agreeing with you and then push them into areas further afield.

So, maybe there is a class of people, normal in all other respects, who are very open and trusting and easily swayed, and anyone with the slightest bit of personal authority can get them to do anything.

So do we have to figure out who these people are and them classify them as having a lower level of free will? Do they have less responsibility for what they do? And does that mean that everyone else has a higher responsibility to them?

I think in the case of this lawyer, it would make the most sense to get him convicted on professional improprieties and leave the hypnosis aspect out of it altogether.

I doubt these courts really understand hypnosis better than anyone else.

This video tripped me out the first time I saw it. It appears to be a perfect example of finding a suggestible person and taking advantage of him.

No trance, just some alpha body language and some pacing and leading, and the guy is doing what he is told.

Even when they debrief him afterwards, he can't explain it. He just accepts another person's authority blindly.





If any of you learn how to do this, please don't be an evil hypnotist.




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The woman in the gma video is 2/10 wnb I’m a little disappointed that the lawyer wasted his hypnotism skills on post wall uggos. It’s sort of funny that he got it to work on so many women though

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(11-29-2018 02:37 PM)eradicator Wrote:  The woman in the gma video is 2/10 wnb I’m a little disappointed that the lawyer wasted his hypnotism skills on post wall uggos. It’s sort of funny that he got it to work on so many women though

I wouldn't be surprised if 70% of the women were just going along with it for kicks and weren't hypnotized at all, and then when one woman came forward, it was all over.

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11-29-2018 02:56 PM
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(11-29-2018 02:56 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 02:37 PM)eradicator Wrote:  The woman in the gma video is 2/10 wnb I’m a little disappointed that the lawyer wasted his hypnotism skills on post wall uggos. It’s sort of funny that he got it to work on so many women though

I wouldn't be surprised if 70% of the women were just going along with it for kicks and weren't hypnotized at all, and then when one woman came forward, it was all over.

More like 100% man. If that kind of shit worked like that on even 30% of post wall women wouldn't you think scammers would be using it to steal from this population? It would be more widespread than the Nigerian Prince asking for money over email.

What you are seeing is just a guy with game picking up old thirsty hags
Meanwhile the criminal MSM and law enforcement cover up for ridiculous slander
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The fact is these women wouldn't have been hypnotized and molested by their attorney if they had stayed married. They're not victims.
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(11-29-2018 04:44 PM)HornyRamone Wrote:  The fact is these women wouldn't have been hypnotized and molested by their attorney if they had stayed married. They're not victims.

The husbands should sue their vaginas for hypnotizing them into marriage.

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(11-29-2018 02:25 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  So, maybe there is a class of people, normal in all other respects, who are very open and trusting and easily swayed, and anyone with the slightest bit of personal authority can get them to do anything.

Yes.....we call them "women".
11-29-2018 06:32 PM
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I guess it's totally possible; I've read in a newspaper some time ago about two SEA dudes robbing a bank in France using hypnosis. They hypnotized a cashier to withdraw a ton of money.
11-29-2018 11:11 PM
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(11-29-2018 11:11 PM)Filbert Wrote:  I guess it's totally possible; I've read in a newspaper some time ago about two SEA dudes robbing a bank in France using hypnosis. They hypnotized a cashier to withdraw a ton of money.

Next you'll be telling us how stage magicians are actual wizards who can levitate objects and disappear tigers.

A large portion of people are just unbelievably stupid, naive, and/or suggestible, like the cashier in your story. This is completely different than "hypnosis", which simply does not exist at all.

Women are especially suggestible, and in real life (as opposed to girl power bullshit in media), most women instinctively comply with the requests of authoritative men. That is exactly what happened here with this lawyer.

The "gray zone" behavior that spurred a lot of #MeToo is just women consensually doing whatever authoritative men wanted them to, and reimagining that it was a "rape", or in this case "hypnosis". They need to preserve their self image as "strong independent women", however much of an oxymoron that might be.
11-30-2018 01:04 AM
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"We can't even trust lawyers anymore. What is happening to this country?"
- Ross Jeffries, Attorney at Law

I'm not ready to believe that some random creep in Ohio possesses Professor X-level mind control powers that he can use to force strange women who come into his office, probably to inquire about filing for an expensive divorce against the men whom they can extract more money and resources from as an ex wife than as a current wife, to have multiple orgasms against their will while not restrained or silenced in any way and that he is not using those powers to somehow get himself out of Ohio. Also, it is curious to me that he gave this woman multiple orgasms and that this was included in the report. What's that all about? The fact that she went back after the police told her not to and also kept talking on the phone with him suggests that she was at least somewhat conscious and willing in her behavior.

Update: Looked up his legal practice. Michael Fine represents people who are being "harassed by debt collectors" which suggests something about the sort of women we are talking about here. They are probably a highly trustworthy and responsible bunch.
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Hypnosis is real. There are people literally robbing banks using this:





I think this is an underappreciated style of game. This stuff used to be huge in early PUA circles.
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Why is it that hypnosis only seems to work on women and effeminate men? Seems to be a lot like astrology, Reiki, or chi-powered no-touch martial arts in the sense that it only seems to work on people who have already convinced themselves to believe that others can have magical power over them and who a submissive disposition. I suspect that it turns them on to let go and let someone else have control so they do not have to take any responsibility for what they do and that this is what hypnosis really is, allowing yourself to not have to be accountable or a while.

I've actually used hypnosis before. Not to pick up women but just as a fun party trick to experiment and see if I could do it in the field. Turns out that I could and I got a girl to think that the palm of her hand would burn when I touched it. Fun stuff but I don't think I had some magical power over her. She was just allowing me to absolve her of responsibility and accountability for a few minutes.






Does it look like this girl is really "under his control?" I don't buy that but it makes sense if she just wants to let go and let someone else drive for a few minutes. "I was drunk" becomes "I was hypnotized." Absolved of responsibility.



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(11-30-2018 01:49 AM)BossOfBosses Wrote:  Hypnosis is real. There are people literally robbing banks using this:





I think this is an underappreciated style of game. This stuff used to be huge in early PUA circles.


I feel like she might have handed over the money because she thought they might escalate if she refused. And no clerk gets paid enough to have a gun in their face to protect someone else's money.
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