Post: #1

Sitting around having a few drinks with family last night, I start convo with one of my younger male cousins, who I discover is clearly very beta. For reference, he's 28, works in IT for a large company, and does well for himself financially. When it comes to women, he's getting it all wrong. He received a text last night from his ex, whom he attempted to rekindle a relationship with earlier this month. They had agreed to meet up in New York City Friday-Sunday this weekend, and he had paid for his ex's plane ticket, as well as the hotel near Times Square (I find out total financial investment - $540). She tells him that she had been going back and forth with the decision, but still had feelings for her most recent ex, and that she couldn't sleep with him knowing she was still in love with the other guy. My cousin sat there like a kid whose puppy died, depressed.

Aside from wanting to initially laugh at him for his foolish decision, I told him there are a lot of lessons he will learn from this situation, but the first two are

1. Leave the past in the past. - That relationship was full of drama when he was in it, and attempting to restart or rekindle with an ex is never good
2. Never invest financially in someone you aren't in a LTR with. - He now has to see if he can recoup any of his money spent, but likely will have to chalk this up as a loss.

Hope this cautionary tale helps someone up here who has been through, or knows someone who made decisions similar to my cousin.

Post: #2

My father was married with a woman. They got two children. My father is a beta and did everything she asked. She divorced him to ride some Alpha cock. My siblings lost a mother that day.

Then my father decided a woman was needed to run the household. He placed an ad in newspaper searching for woman. An old hooker with two children of her own responded. They began living together.

The hooker made sure her own children be getting a good life and education. My siblings be be drugged and treated badly. They never got an education and are now living of welfare while mentally unstable.

My father never protested. I bet her blowjobs be of excellent quality.

The hooker also took all the money because my father let her be responsible for finances.

He never knew she was a hooker until years later when all went to shit.

Lesson to be learned: Do not trust woman.

Post: #3

>>I think it's simple. If you have the disposable income and the girl has shown real interest, then go for it. The $1000 for the flight and dinners/drinks isn't going to make or break many guys.

The above excerpt from the "should you fly girls in" thread. I feel truly honored to be part of a forum where guys can throw $1000 around like it was no big deal. Meanwhile lunchmoney's brother sad about $540. That's more my speed. Of course, I'd be pissed rather than sad, pissed at myself that is for being such a sap, if I was out $540 for some girl who flaked. Guess I just have "poverty mentality" as another baller in that "should you fly girls in" thread described those of us who get bothered by losing trivial amounts of money like $540 or $1000 or whatever.

Post: #4

(11-23-2018 01:52 AM)lunchmoney Wrote:  Sitting around having a few drinks with family last night, I start convo with one of my younger male cousins, who I discover is clearly very beta. For reference, he's 28, works in IT for a large company, and does well for himself financially. When it comes to women, he's getting it all wrong. He received a text last night from his ex, whom he attempted to rekindle a relationship with earlier this month. They had agreed to meet up in New York City Friday-Sunday this weekend, and he had paid for his ex's plane ticket, as well as the hotel near Times Square (I find out total financial investment - $540). She tells him that she had been going back and forth with the decision, but still had feelings for her most recent ex, and that she couldn't sleep with him knowing she was still in love with the other guy. My cousin sat there like a kid whose puppy died, depressed.

Aside from wanting to initially laugh at him for his foolish decision, I told him there are a lot of lessons he will learn from this situation, but the first two are

1. Leave the past in the past. - That relationship was full of drama when he was in it, and attempting to restart or rekindle with an ex is never good
2. Never invest financially in someone you aren't in a LTR with. - He now has to see if he can recoup any of his money spent, but likely will have to chalk this up as a loss.

Hope this cautionary tale helps someone up here who has been through, or knows someone who made decisions similar to my cousin.

Feel for you man. Try to encourage your cousin to start chatting up new women. And to keep improving himself in other areas besides his already decent career. The obvious stuff. Fuck, if I was him I'd still salvage the hotel room if it was nonrefundable and just hit the town (NYC) and holler at chicks in the city or at minimum just hit some cultural events (ie. music shows / concerts aka the cultural offerings that seem nonstop in NYC, etc.). But otherwise hopefully he can at least get the lodging refunded. The plane ticket for the ex was foolishness & likely a sunk cost.

Post: #5

A student needs to seek a teacher, not the other way around. Unsolicited advice will only lead to resentment and ruined relationships.

You can't red pill people who are not ready to be red pilled. They need to seek it out themselves.

Post: #6

(11-23-2018 06:12 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  

(11-23-2018 01:52 AM)lunchmoney Wrote:  Sitting around having a few drinks with family last night, I start convo with one of my younger male cousins, who I discover is clearly very beta. For reference, he's 28, works in IT for a large company, and does well for himself financially. When it comes to women, he's getting it all wrong. He received a text last night from his ex, whom he attempted to rekindle a relationship with earlier this month. They had agreed to meet up in New York City Friday-Sunday this weekend, and he had paid for his ex's plane ticket, as well as the hotel near Times Square (I find out total financial investment - $540). She tells him that she had been going back and forth with the decision, but still had feelings for her most recent ex, and that she couldn't sleep with him knowing she was still in love with the other guy. My cousin sat there like a kid whose puppy died, depressed.

Aside from wanting to initially laugh at him for his foolish decision, I told him there are a lot of lessons he will learn from this situation, but the first two are

1. Leave the past in the past. - That relationship was full of drama when he was in it, and attempting to restart or rekindle with an ex is never good
2. Never invest financially in someone you aren't in a LTR with. - He now has to see if he can recoup any of his money spent, but likely will have to chalk this up as a loss.

Hope this cautionary tale helps someone up here who has been through, or knows someone who made decisions similar to my cousin.

Feel for you man. Try to encourage your cousin to start chatting up new women. And to keep improving himself in other areas besides his already decent career. The obvious stuff. Fuck, if I was him I'd still salvage the hotel room if it was nonrefundable and just hit the town (NYC) and holler at chicks in the city or at minimum just hit some cultural events (ie. music shows / concerts aka the cultural offerings that seem nonstop in NYC, etc.). But otherwise hopefully he can at least get the lodging refunded. The plane ticket for the ex was foolishness & likely a sunk cost.

True. But that's the most difficult part for guys. It's not that they still have extremely deep feelings for a woman that is clearly not that interested. It's that they - men - despise and fear the pain of going through rejection, changing oneself and admitting that with their current personality they won't be able to get laid, unless they really lower their standards or get hookers.

Post: #7

(11-23-2018 09:50 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  

(11-23-2018 06:12 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  

(11-23-2018 01:52 AM)lunchmoney Wrote:  Sitting around having a few drinks with family last night, I start convo with one of my younger male cousins, who I discover is clearly very beta. For reference, he's 28, works in IT for a large company, and does well for himself financially. When it comes to women, he's getting it all wrong. He received a text last night from his ex, whom he attempted to rekindle a relationship with earlier this month. They had agreed to meet up in New York City Friday-Sunday this weekend, and he had paid for his ex's plane ticket, as well as the hotel near Times Square (I find out total financial investment - $540). She tells him that she had been going back and forth with the decision, but still had feelings for her most recent ex, and that she couldn't sleep with him knowing she was still in love with the other guy. My cousin sat there like a kid whose puppy died, depressed.

Aside from wanting to initially laugh at him for his foolish decision, I told him there are a lot of lessons he will learn from this situation, but the first two are

1. Leave the past in the past. - That relationship was full of drama when he was in it, and attempting to restart or rekindle with an ex is never good
2. Never invest financially in someone you aren't in a LTR with. - He now has to see if he can recoup any of his money spent, but likely will have to chalk this up as a loss.

Hope this cautionary tale helps someone up here who has been through, or knows someone who made decisions similar to my cousin.

Feel for you man. Try to encourage your cousin to start chatting up new women. And to keep improving himself in other areas besides his already decent career. The obvious stuff. Fuck, if I was him I'd still salvage the hotel room if it was nonrefundable and just hit the town (NYC) and holler at chicks in the city or at minimum just hit some cultural events (ie. music shows / concerts aka the cultural offerings that seem nonstop in NYC, etc.). But otherwise hopefully he can at least get the lodging refunded. The plane ticket for the ex was foolishness & likely a sunk cost.

True. But that's the most difficult part for guys. It's not that they still have extremely deep feelings for a woman that is clearly not that interested. It's that they - men - despise and fear the pain of going through rejection, changing oneself and admitting that with their current personality they won't be able to get laid, unless they really lower their standards or get hookers.

Unfortunately bc this was a LTR he still had feelings, and wasn't honest with himself about that. She has moved on emotionally and physically, and he just got that update.

Post: #8

(11-23-2018 05:52 AM)Shemp Wrote:  The above excerpt from the "should you fly girls in" thread. I feel truly honored to be part of a forum where guys can throw $1000 around like it was no big deal. Meanwhile lunchmoney's brother sad about $540. That's more my speed.

I might spill more than that at the bar on a big night out, but I would never blow that kind of cash on a cunty ex.

I'd spend it on a woman I was banging, or knew I was going to bang however.

Unless she was all sweet and light to him until he spent the cash and then turned on him to be a bitch... But he would have known she was like that from the LTR he had with her?

I think you should take this dude under your wing and coach him in game.