Post: #701

Weeding out hookers. Some ask $ quickly. Other hookers dont ask money until they know you coming. Then everything changes. Pro tip. Say you have a flight coming up without you actually reserving it. See if their story changes. Always have back up pussy. Which is simple in dr. I always like to ask where we meeting up too. No girl has taxi money essentially. I hate renting cars but that is best way. Have them send you gps location. (They less likely to come with someone else ) you can get rid of them easier too(after you bring them to cabana.

Post: #702

Already have a cute 18 year old lined up with a fat ass ? (I’m 36)

Post: #703

Looking forward to this, visiting Dominican Republic in one month and it will be my first time in Latin America. I am kind of weary about the safety isssues, but It won't stop me from doing approaches. My tinder is popping off with cute girls I wouldn't be able to match here in the USA.

Post: #704

I had a great time, overall, in DR. I will say this about safety though. I'm not sure I'll ever go back there until the crime improves. Heard too many stories about people being killed. If you're out of the main tourist area (Punta Cana / All inclusive resorts) the risk goes up tremendously. I spent like 6 months in Santo Domingo (not in the main tourist area of Punta Cana), and it's amazing nothing bad ever happened to me. I certainly heard and read lots of stories though.

Probably the best thing you can do to stay safe is:

1. Take taxis everywhere.
2. Watch who's around you.
3. At night, be especially careful.
4. Roll in a group if possible.
5. Don't wear anything expensive if you are walking around.
6. Don't disrespect anyone, apologize when needed.
7. Don't hang out on the sidewalk, street, etc unless in a group you trust or unless there are tons of people around.
8. Consider putting a chair under your doorknob at night to prevent kick-ins.

Keep safey in mind at all times.

I ignored a lot of the above rules, but after reading and hearing all the shit that's happened, I wouldn't go back without trying to follow those rules somewhat.

Check out Dominican watchdog online for all the gory murders.

Post: #705

What part of SD did you stay in and would you recommend it?

Post: #706

I was all over DR this year for about a month, and man, shit is out of hand with the "chapiadoras" there. ( https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p...Chapiadora )

I found that 90% of women that are like 7-above try to extort money out of men, and they are very good at it. Typical for third world countries with hot girls, but I think there its out of control much more than anywhere else. All you have to do is listen to the radio for 10 minutes in DR, and you will notice that half of the songs are about this. This one is actually funny though, give it a listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ6xAirNEp0

Honestly I used to love DR and this was my 5th visit there, but every year dating / banging there is worse. Blame instagram and all these chicks posting pics from 5 star resorts in Punta cana that some fat dude paid for and getting 900 DM's a day. They're becoming like the ukranians of the caribbean, except ukranians are smart and dominicanas have too much ass and too little brain.

If you must go to DR, I would say try to focus on social circle and focus on girls that are educated. They will be more fun and you will actually have a good time together vs just bang some loose slut that has 10 different dudes in the US thinking she's their gf and sending money weekly, and is most definitely going to come up with 100 excuses to ask you for money..

But then again, if you are ok with basically playing offense/defense with women and ok with giving your bitch $20 every time you see her for nails/hair/taxi/babysitter/school-books/etc then go for it. Not my style though, fuck these money grubbing hoes. I just rather avoid the whole thing.

Post: #707

For example, I picked up a sexy milf at her little clothing store in Cabarete.. Super sweet, from the country side. I would say she was a 7 face and a 9 body.

So anyway, we chat at her a store while I was buying some shorts, I'm flirty and she's flirty so I get her number. (by the way I am spanish so this is all going down in spanish)

That night I invite her out for drinks, we have some drinks by my hotel (during which we talk a lot about her work , I even told her that I love she's an independent woman) and then we go bang. Amazing sex all night - at like 6am she wakes me up to drive her home because her son is home sleeping.

So I drop her off, and then she goes like "hey papi arent you forgetting something? where's my money?" ... I'm like "what the fuck? you are a hooker now?" And she starts saying how she had to pay to get her hair done before seeing me (bullshit) and that she had to pay a babysitter (bullshit, grandma was taking care of him because she had told me earlier).

So anyway I threw at her a small bill I had in my pocket worth like $2 and drove off and blocked her on whatsapp. Fuck that hoe, lol.

Boys get ready to deal with these situations often in DR. Everyone wants a fucking handout, quite literally.

Post: #708

average date in NYC/London/typical western city with a 7 or 8 is between $100-$150,
Dinner ($70)
movie ($45)
parking ($10)
total $125

For USA add tips on that.

x 3 dates thats close to $400 (swapping out movies for another activity)
and around 12 hours of LOST time. 12 hours x $30 hour working my side job= $360
the total opportunity cost from those 3 dates for me is =$760

Some chics are raised well and will offer to pay there way and some wont. Depending on your game how much they are into you. Those IG level chics a lot of the time wont pay unless they chose you.

after 3 dates to get her comfortable she can say shes not looking to take it further (after all she has 100s of potential suitors).

At the end of the day dudes want access to lots of 7s-10s (atleast i do), with the least amount of effort to maintain.

DR is a cut to the chase type of culture which works for some and doest work for others. I put zero effort into women from the west as ive realised its not a good use of time or resources. I have several women in the west that i deal with but they are very minimal upkeep as i raised my SMV very high and they effectively picked me. (Its important to know which women to avoid in the west) thats a a lost art knowing who to leave alone, there are 6s that expect filet mignon, and there are 8s who chose up who will be happy with a mcdonalds , alpha male strategy game works, raise the SMV and let girls choose you, thats how i keep my dates in the west very cheap. My money is for investing and travelling only. Not to feed western women. When im the one chasing the woman, it tends to work out that you spend more per date as you are trying to impress. And there not gonna invest in a guy that there not chasing so there not splitting that meal. especially girls 25 and younger

What i do with my money when on my travels is never regretted. WINK

Post: #709

(11-11-2018 06:48 AM)TwinTurbo Wrote:  Boys get ready to deal with these situations often in DR. Everyone wants a fucking handout, quite literally.

I disagree with this strongly.

It's all about social class. You seem to be attracting lower-class girls. I wrote about this in my thread Adventures and Sexual Economics in Santo Domingo.

On my trip I had exactly one girl I was talking to ask me for money. And I was chatting with like 40-50 and ended up banging 3 of them.

Post: #710

I find in all of latin america using tinder, online again for most part isn't good... All the girls i meet were hookers, I found the MOST success at places where they work, malls, stores walking around just saying hi. I am skeptical about going to santo domingo because of the hookers and all that but if you are going to the right places to meet them then it shouldn't be much of an issue i think. I always worry though about nightlife and clubs and meeting the wrong women who basically robs you or demands money then has the gang that plots something on you but it probably is a bad habit and don't want to avoid living life.

Post: #711

I’m well versed in avoiding whores after being in many turd world shiteholes.

Post: #712

Looking at hitting up Santo Domingo this summer. Any difference in crowds if going May/June vs. August/September?

Post: #713

(11-10-2018 12:41 PM)kavakid Wrote:  I had a great time, overall, in DR. I will say this about safety though. I'm not sure I'll ever go back there until the crime improves. Heard too many stories about people being killed. If you're out of the main tourist area (Punta Cana / All inclusive resorts) the risk goes up tremendously. I spent like 6 months in Santo Domingo (not in the main tourist area of Punta Cana), and it's amazing nothing bad ever happened to me. I certainly heard and read lots of stories though.

Probably the best thing you can do to stay safe is:

1. Take taxis everywhere.
2. Watch who's around you.
3. At night, be especially careful.
4. Roll in a group if possible.
5. Don't wear anything expensive if you are walking around.
6. Don't disrespect anyone, apologize when needed.
7. Don't hang out on the sidewalk, street, etc unless in a group you trust or unless there are tons of people around.
8. Consider putting a chair under your doorknob at night to prevent kick-ins.

Keep safey in mind at all times.

I ignored a lot of the above rules, but after reading and hearing all the shit that's happened, I wouldn't go back without trying to follow those rules somewhat.

Check out Dominican watchdog online for all the gory murders.

Are you of a white/european descent? Not that it really matters to me, but I think it may change the whole " safety" and " target " issue if you are in a latin american country.

Post: #714

(11-11-2018 10:57 AM)giama Wrote:  average date in NYC/London/typical western city with a 7 or 8 is between $100-$150,
Dinner ($70)
movie ($45)
parking ($10)
total $125

For USA add tips on that.

x 3 dates thats close to $400 (swapping out movies for another activity)
and around 12 hours of LOST time. 12 hours x $30 hour working my side job= $360
the total opportunity cost from those 3 dates for me is =$760

Some chics are raised well and will offer to pay there way and some wont. Depending on your game how much they are into you. Those IG level chics a lot of the time wont pay unless they chose you.

after 3 dates to get her comfortable she can say shes not looking to take it further (after all she has 100s of potential suitors).

At the end of the day dudes want access to lots of 7s-10s (atleast i do), with the least amount of effort to maintain.

DR is a cut to the chase type of culture which works for some and doest work for others. I put zero effort into women from the west as ive realised its not a good use of time or resources. I have several women in the west that i deal with but they are very minimal upkeep as i raised my SMV very high and they effectively picked me. (Its important to know which women to avoid in the west) thats a a lost art knowing who to leave alone, there are 6s that expect filet mignon, and there are 8s who chose up who will be happy with a mcdonalds , alpha male strategy game works, raise the SMV and let girls choose you, thats how i keep my dates in the west very cheap. My money is for investing and travelling only. Not to feed western women. When im the one chasing the woman, it tends to work out that you spend more per date as you are trying to impress. And there not gonna invest in a guy that there not chasing so there not splitting that meal. especially girls 25 and younger

What i do with my money when on my travels is never regretted. WINK

If you’re spending $100+ per date, then you’re getting massively cucked. That’s way too much of an investment in a girl, especially one who you don’t know if you’ll have sex with or even see long-term.

I’ve found taking girls to something casual like Chipotle or even a coffee shop or frozen yogurt to be just effective as a fancy dinner. As matter of fact, fancy dinners typically backfire since you’re putting yourself in the provider role and trying too hard to impress. You’re just wasting money at that point. Might as well just donate to charity rather than provide a girl you barely know with free meals.

Post: #715

how do you raise your SMV just curious to get them to chase you are you talking social media and IG things ?

Post: #716

Oh, and to be clear, I completely understand taking your girlfriend or FWB for lunch/dinner dates but I can’t for the life of me understand why you would take a girl you haven’t banged yet to a restaurant.

The whole dinner date thing seems like some Hollywood beta nonsense that society has mimicked, even though it doesn’t actually work. Reminds me of dudes who think it’s smart to buy a girl flowers because they saw it in a movie.

Post: #717

What is the best beach near SD and Santiago for a day trip?

Post: #718

(11-11-2018 11:09 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 06:48 AM)TwinTurbo Wrote:  Boys get ready to deal with these situations often in DR. Everyone wants a fucking handout, quite literally.

I disagree with this strongly.

It's all about social class. You seem to be attracting lower-class girls. I wrote about this in my thread Adventures and Sexual Economics in Santo Domingo.

On my trip I had exactly one girl I was talking to ask me for money. And I was chatting with like 40-50 and ended up banging 3 of them.

Just read your post, solid info in there corsega and I agree with a lot of it. Like you experienced, you can have a great time in DR for a vacation but I was more considering as a long term spot and I realized after a month there that I rather not.

I banged a handful of chicks there too and I paid for none of them - but I noticed that both online and when you're out and about and talking to hot girls (not 6's) you realize that there's a big expectation in that money is very much an important of your relationship.

Of course you can outsmart many or all of them and still get laid, but just be aware that every hot chick you're banging (except the very educated / family money ones) is trying to maximize her financial rewards and will have no problem fucking some other dude for a weekend if she can get some salon money or a weekend trip to punta cana.

Chapiadoras / "el chapeo" is huge and booming in dr - every dumbass 17 year old dominicana with a big ass but little ambition idolizes Cardi B and sees her as the role model.

There's a small middle/high class in DR but its tiny so social circle is huge there, as I mentioned before. I was able to get into some of those circles thanks to my friend that lived there for 10 years before.

This is not so bad for some of you players that don't mind dealing or have the patience for chapiadora dynamics, but I rather not waste my time trying to find the diamond in the rough there. I rather bang hoes in Africa or Asia where even if they are dirt poor they don't see men as walking ATM's.

Post: #719

Saying money is an important part of a relationship to an attractive dominican woman is the equivalent of saying sexual intercourse is an important part of a relationship to men on this forum. The topic would be ripe for a Captain Obvious commercial.

Post: #720

(11-11-2018 10:17 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 10:57 AM)giama Wrote:  average date in NYC/London/typical western city with a 7 or 8 is between $100-$150,
Dinner ($70)
movie ($45)
parking ($10)
total $125

For USA add tips on that.

x 3 dates thats close to $400 (swapping out movies for another activity)
and around 12 hours of LOST time. 12 hours x $30 hour working my side job= $360
the total opportunity cost from those 3 dates for me is =$760

Some chics are raised well and will offer to pay there way and some wont. Depending on your game how much they are into you. Those IG level chics a lot of the time wont pay unless they chose you.

after 3 dates to get her comfortable she can say shes not looking to take it further (after all she has 100s of potential suitors).

At the end of the day dudes want access to lots of 7s-10s (atleast i do), with the least amount of effort to maintain.

DR is a cut to the chase type of culture which works for some and doest work for others. I put zero effort into women from the west as ive realised its not a good use of time or resources. I have several women in the west that i deal with but they are very minimal upkeep as i raised my SMV very high and they effectively picked me. (Its important to know which women to avoid in the west) thats a a lost art knowing who to leave alone, there are 6s that expect filet mignon, and there are 8s who chose up who will be happy with a mcdonalds , alpha male strategy game works, raise the SMV and let girls choose you, thats how i keep my dates in the west very cheap. My money is for investing and travelling only. Not to feed western women. When im the one chasing the woman, it tends to work out that you spend more per date as you are trying to impress. And there not gonna invest in a guy that there not chasing so there not splitting that meal. especially girls 25 and younger

What i do with my money when on my travels is never regretted. WINK

If you’re spending $100+ per date, then you’re getting massively cucked. That’s way too much of an investment in a girl, especially one who you don’t know if you’ll have sex with or even see long-term.

I’ve found taking girls to something casual like Chipotle or even a coffee shop or frozen yogurt to be just effective as a fancy dinner. As matter of fact, fancy dinners typically backfire since you’re putting yourself in the provider role and trying too hard to impress. You’re just wasting money at that point. Might as well just donate to charity rather than provide a girl you barely know with free meals.

$70 is not a fancy dinner in London, its a casual dinning spot.
I dont do $100 dates anymore, i use to. I raised my SMV and reassessed what girls i actually deal with which means i spend way less then before, if anything.

When in the west i dont chase the finest girls, i just maintain a harem of low maintenance 6.5s and 7s, for sleeping with 8s and 9s latin america is just a way better investment of time for me. 8s and 9s in the west have to much orbiters.

Post: #721

Regarding crime..

I'm white, so... yes I'm going to be more of a target probably. But on the other hand, they are also more afraid to mess with us since we are more likely to get true police work to help us out as tourists.

Anyhow, I had plenty of Dominican friends that got robbed at gunpoint, so the crime isn't just at white folks.

The best girlfriend I had in DR I met at a large supermarket. She was a solid 8. She didn't really beg me for money, but she was a nag about me trying to save money by not getting a beachfront hotel room when we left SD to take a weekend vacation nearby. (I got a decent place that was a few blocks from the beach). Later she wanted me to marry her... I was like "why would I marry someone that is already complaining and annoying me?". She seemed like a pretty good girl though, relative to DR. Her family in the US knew a guy who wanted to marry her, but she wasn't attracted to him. I told her that she could make a fortune in the US compared to DR but she said she would only marry for love.

I had another girlfriend who was probably a 7.5. She was religious though, we never banged or did anything. She took me to her church one day.

Another girl was a single mom. She would come over to bang and I would give her a few dollars for food, plus cover her bus trip to my place. She was very sweet.

All these girls still write to me. None asks me for money.

I think many of the girls in DR are sweet and naive. But in the tourist areas it's different. Yes, most of the girls you will run into are going to see you as a walking ATM. You just need to filter through that. Girls here show their true colors in about 20 minutes usually. You can usually tell the girls who just want the money.

I agree with some of the other posts here, that it's still a lot better to help a girl out with a few bucks in DR for her food and baby clothes than to wine and dine a western girl. However, my dates in the US always were cheap as possible. And I never went on a 2nd date that wasn't my house or hers. When I did go for dinner I usually asked the girl to split the check. Later after we banged, a girl would tell me that she thinks I'm an asshole for splitting the bill. Further proof that girls like assholes, haha.

Post: #722

Crime in DR is a big issue but the police are and even bigger issue, if you do get robbed then your real problems begin with the police, even something like trying to get a police report for insurance purposes can see you spending a night in jail, if your Spanish isn't absolutely on point then good luck.

I've never had a problem with crime or police in any other country but I've seen it 3 times in the DR. Feels like the criminals target white folk but the police are racist as fuck against them as well and are told to deflate the crime statistics by intimidating the tourists to not report the crime.

I found the women to be overweight on average, there are some absolute stunners, but the average girl is going to be overweight. It's also a very transactional society, if you're white you shouldn't expect to do anything that doesn't involve you parting with your hard earned.

Beaches are very nice and the golf is fucking phenomenal albeit insanely expensive. Expect to part with $250-300 per course but they'll be in the best few courses you'll play in your life.

For mine golf is the really the best reason to go to DR, the weather/beaches is reason number 2 and the women are number 3. Any of those are enough reason to do it but personally the women and their expectations put it behind many other countries in the region on my list but the golf certainly bumps it for anyone interested. Oh and the rum is excellent, cheap and excellent.

Post: #723

Jim Bobs, what is your favorite country in latin america for women... again without the problems like dealing with tons of hookers, crime rate (safety) to go out at night and walk around , and quality of women

Post: #724

(11-13-2018 09:35 AM)FLGuy1988 Wrote:  Jim Bobs, what is your favorite country in latin america for women... again without the problems like dealing with tons of hookers, crime rate (safety) to go out at night and walk around , and quality of women

It's been a few years since I was there but Colombia still wins for mine. Not that it's perfect on any of those fronts by any means but other than maybe Venezuelan women Colombian women still stand out as the best in that region for mine and Venezuela is a no go zone on the other stuff. I listened to the advice on where to go and where not to go and had no crime issues.

Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia (if even falling in the Latin classification) have too few good looking women, to be fair the mixed women in Peru are top echelon for me but they're rare and they know it. They feel safer though to me if that's a big kicker.

Brazil has severe obesity problems and a different language, which I speak almost none of (not that my Spanish is good or anything), so it's hard to compare but the thinner women there were great and similar to Colombia the ass culture actually makes them less desirable to local men which is a great result for a foreigner swooping in, Brazil is enormous but the visa stuff is another issue depending where you're from. Brazil I'd love to go back and do more with some Portuguese in my pocket though.

Argentina/Uruguay are better if you like your latinas paler but I generally like a bit more colour, those two certainly feel safer though, feels more like Italy to me than the other LA countries.

Mexico was good for me, especially over near Guadalajara where the best women I met from there all seemed to come from but a lot of it isn't terrible safe.

DR though is the only country where I've actively felt unsafe, I'm a smart tourist in general and have never had issues in any other country but I've been there 3 times now and every time there were issues with crime and then the police, not even doing stupid stuff (the 3rd one a little) but brazen daylight robbery and then police threatening to lock you overnight (at gunpoint) for reporting it even with a tourist police and another witness on the record (hence my feeling it's about keeping the crime stats down). In it's defense, the beaches were as good as anywhere and the golf is elite and it's a hell of a lot of fun but just expect some issues if you're staying a while.

Panama the best girls are all Colombian and most of them are at least semi-pro while there, basically you get a bit more English for a sacrifice on the other fronts.

Puerto Rico was great also but has a much more Americanised female perspective on life which I don't like but it probably was the safest feeling and the least hookerish if those are big turnoffs.

Haven't done Chile or the rest of CA to compare but nothing I've seen makes me think they'd beat Colombia unless Colombia has really changed on me (always possible).

Post: #725

that's what I thought.. I did ok in Panama becuase you have the Venezuelan women and locals but still weren't too many pretty ones to be honest.. I think Colombia is best bet too, I do like puerto rico there is some fine women there I just was unable to find the spot at night to party there.. I know Isla Verde has a tourist club at the El San Juan Hotel I forgot the name but like a spot for locals, and clubs in San Juan I couldn't find. I also love the island and its beauty. Medellin, I had to deal with the hooker issue on parque lleras but I think the trick is simple.. DAY Game, Malls, Stores AND go to the clubs or bars never hang out on the outside to find women because majority will be hookers.. I even had a scare when i saw some girls walking (don't know there age) but was just talking to them! the cops asked for my ID and there id's, luckily nothing happened since they were 20-21, but I think if they were 16 or 17 something could of to me NOT SURE since they are looking for child hookers or something.. I don't know if they could have done anything to me being 30.. all i did was talk to them normal convos kinda scarred me and ruined the rest of my nights.