Post: #26

Seriously, water fasting should be the first line of treatment after a cancer diagnosis. Maintain the fast, under medical supervision, until concentration camp lean, which would be at least 30 days for a man who is lean to begin with, months for women, possibly year or more for someone who is obese to begin with (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/ for story of 383 day fast by a fat guy who wanted to lose weight "fast", ha-ha). Cancer cannot tolerate fasting conditions.

Post: #27

(11-06-2018 07:34 PM)Flux Wrote:  If there was a cure to cancer, no wealthy people would die of it.

Paul Allen just died of a few weeks ago, net worth: 21 billion.

Cures can't be kept secret anyway, because those who find them are scientists, not businessmen. A scientist works for the passion of it, with no desire for anything else.

You're not even talking about a cure, you're talking about prevention... A cure simply hasn't been found, that's a fact.

We don't really know.There might have been cures for some of the 100 plus cancers that There are today in the 40's/50/60's or whenever but doctors who supposedly found these cures were conveniently sacked or killed off/never to be seen again. There's Something they're not telling us and its unlikely we'll ever find out.

Regardless of income. If you have a more serious cancer that is detected at a very late stage,you're in big trouble. There will never be a cure for cancer until the big greedy pharmaceuticals companies are removed.

The documentary that an rvf'er just posted "Cancer the Forbidden Cures - Full Documentary" is fascinating and will enlighten people. Heres the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_conti...TGye7kA6rM

Post: #28

(11-06-2018 08:07 PM)Shemp Wrote:  Seriously, water fasting should be the first line of treatment after a cancer diagnosis. Maintain the fast, under medical supervision, until concentration camp lean, which would be at least 30 days for a man who is lean to begin with, months for women, possibly year or more for someone who is obese to begin with (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/ for story of 383 day fast by a fat guy who wanted to lose weight "fast", ha-ha). Cancer cannot tolerate fasting conditions.

Please don't take this advice seriously, it's a bunch of horse shit.
There's no hidden cure, you can't vegan cancer away or whatever fairy tale bullshit is going on in this thread.

The closest thing we've had (in actual development) so far are the sniffer nanobots from south korea a few years ago, but that hasn't really worked out as successfully as desired. Now with crispr we have better tools to work with, and can either modify the dna straight, or modify phages (or something) to attack the cells specifically.
It's still gonna take time and money, but at least we're getting closer.

Post: #29

Triple therapy for H. Pylori associated gastric cancer? YES!

OP Thread? NAH.....

Post: #30

OP's not wrong... however inserting his Vegan beliefs will cause many to tune out unfortunately. As a fan of Kevin Trudeau... I previously dug deep into that subject... and Man Oh Man it ain't pretty! If you research on Youtube, between 2010 and 2015, about 50 natural doctors died under "controversial circumstances".

The elite will let you talk about Hollyweird, Feminism & The NWO until a certain point... but they don't fuck around with Cancer & Medecine! You're Right and talk about it... and keep Going after warning shots... then watch yo Back! If you guys want to delve into it... begin researching GCMAF & Nangalese. Only the Tip of the iceberg!

Also research about a Drug called Dinitrophenol (better known as DNP in Bodybuilding circles) Now I don't recommend anyone take it since it's way too dangerous & non pharma grade. After you read about it... I'm sure members from here will have ideas spinning on how this could be really beneficial!

Post: #31

I always had the instinct to starve the tumor. After all, the tumor needs nutrition just like all the other cells right?
I think the reality is that most people would subconsciously rather die than be hungry.

Post: #32

I remember reading about a lung cancer vaccine that Cuban doctors created, but isn't available in the States. Most articles about it blame Trump for preventing Americans access to it, but I think the main reason is that there's a lack of evidence demonstrating the drugs usefulness.

It's name is CimaVax and here's it Wikipedia:

Quote:CimaVax-EGF is a vaccine used to treat cancer, specifically non-small-cell lung carcinoma (NSCLC). CIMAvax-EGF is composed of recombinant human epidermal growth factor (EGF) conjugated to a protein carrier.[1]

The vaccine was developed by the Center of Molecular Immunology, Havana, Cuba[2][3] There are agreements in place to test it in the United States, Japan, and some European countries.[4] It is currently available in Cuba, Colombia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Peru and Paraguay.[5] In October 2015 Serbia's Institute of Virology, Vaccines and Sera (AKA Torlak Institute) signed a memorandum for use in 30 patients as part of a study.[6] CimaVax is relatively cheap to produce and store, and has low toxicity.[4] Side effects of the vaccine appear to be mild, and include chills, fever, and feeling sick.[7][8]

Mechanism
CimaVax is an active vaccine with which patients are immunized with epidermal growth factor (EGF), thus raising antibodies targeting EGF itself. The product is also formulated with the Neisseria meningitidis outer protein P64k and Montanide ISA 51 as adjuvants to potentiate the immune response.[9][8] The epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR) is hijacked by many types of cancer, including cancers of the lung, colon, kidney, and head and neck. By raising antibodies against EGF, which is EGFR's major ligand, the concentrations of EGF in the blood are reduced. Thus CimaVax does not target the cancer cells directly, but is expected to work against these cancers by denying the cancers the growth stimulus they require.[8][10] For this reason, the Roswell Park group thinks that it may prove most useful as a preventive vaccine rather than as a cancer therapy per se.[4]

Research
Cuba
Early trials showed a trend towards improved survival among vaccinated test subjects.[8][11] A direct correlation between the level of antibodies that a vaccinated patient raises against EGF and survival has been observed in several trials,[8] and in one of the largest trials[10] there was also an age-dependence, with only subjects under the age of 60 benefiting in terms of survival.[8] More antibodies are raised when the vaccine is formulated with Montanide ISA 51 rather than aluminum hydroxide as an adjuvant, and when patients receive a low dose of cyclophosphamide three days before vaccine administration.[8] Cyclophosphamide is thought to temporarily block the body's natural immune tolerance to EGF, thereby increasing antibody titers.[8]

Researchers caution that the early results to date have been in relatively small, early-stage trials with patients that were carefully selected based on predefined inclusion and exclusion criteria, and given specialized oncology care; they may therefore not be representative of most patients who might benefit from the vaccine.[8] It has been urged that CimaVax be tested in patients with earlier-stage NSCLC cancer and in patients who are not candidates for chemotherapy, and that research be conducted to determine which subgroups of NSCLC patients do and don't respond to the vaccine.[8] It has been suggested that CimaVax may also be effective in other types of cancer that are dependent on EGF/EGFR, including many cases of prostate cancer.[8]

International
Trials are being organized in the United States, the European Union, Japan,[4] and Serbia.[6] In late October 2016, the United States Food and Drug Administration authorized[12] the Roswell Park Cancer Institute to conduct a PhaseI/II clinical trial of CimaVAX in patients with non-small cell lung cancer.[13] By the middle of the following month, nearly 200 people had volunteered to be subjects in the trial.[14]

But I would have to imagine scientists or researchers have created something that effectively kills cancer cells without high doses of radiation. My guess is these treatments are still being tested to show that they are effective the majority of the time.

Post: #33

If I remember correctly, some nice results were obtained with genic therapy, using harmless and previously neutralized AIDS viruses to cure leukemia.

Post: #34

For every study that says sucking cocks eating vegan can prevent cancer, you can find one that says eating paleo can prevent it.

Post: #35

I've been drinking 6-12 Busch Beers at a minimum per day. I don't have cancer.

Now Busch Beer is vegan, but I say it's magic. So if you got a tumor, get a thirty pack.

I'm a healer.

Aloha!

Post: #36

(11-06-2018 07:34 PM)Flux Wrote:  If there was a cure to cancer, no wealthy people would die of it.

Paul Allen just died of a few weeks ago, net worth: 21 billion.

Cures can't be kept secret anyway, because those who find them are scientists, not businessmen. A scientist works for the passion of it, with no desire for anything else.

You're not even talking about a cure, you're talking about prevention... A cure simply hasn't been found, that's a fact.

That's a pretty naive statement. Research is funded and scientists are subject to economic pressures, along with being the product of a lifetime of indoctrination through the education system.

OP has breached a good subject, but doesn't seem to have a good command of said subject.

(11-06-2018 06:18 PM)Kona Wrote:  If there are really all these magic plant-based cancer cures, how come the cancer people die?

If I get cancer, and then just be like "yo, I'm eating plants" would I live?

How many people that did the plants, versus how many people did the chemotherapy are still alive?

Aloha!

Cancer rates used to be far lower, so modern dietary habits are a likely factor.

Post: #37

Sorry but if you put homeopathy in your post you are seriously diluting it's value. Pun intended.

What you're basically saying is that you get a substance that has no anticarcinogenic properties at all and then you dilute it repeatedly until it's at a very low concentration and that stops your ball cancer. Absolute pseudo-science and nonsense.

Homeopathy has been completely debunked numerous times and hardly needs any more explanation here. I just took two asprin. Maybe if i had watered it down 100 times it would work better. Further reading if required.

One of the main reasons people get cancer is because people live longer. Everyone knows that the rate of cancers increases dramatically with age, so if you got killed by the enemy tribe when you were 15 you aren't going to develop cancer at 65 are you. Effective diangnois of illness is also relatively recent so looking back 500 years and wondering why no body wrote about cancer very much is hardly enlightening.

As I've said before on the forum I entreat people with an interest in medicine to read the book "Bad Science" by Ben Goldacre. It's an easy read and not a hardcore text book.

Post: #38

Plant based diets are sympomatic of faggotry, and faggotry leads to AIDS. OP, why do you want everyone here to get AIDS?

Post: #39

(11-06-2018 10:14 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  OP's not wrong... however inserting his Vegan beliefs will cause many to tune out unfortunately. As a fan of Kevin Trudeau... I previously dug deep into that subject... and Man Oh Man it ain't pretty! If you research on Youtube, between 2010 and 2015, about 50 natural doctors died under "controversial circumstances".

The elite will let you talk about Hollyweird, Feminism & The NWO until a certain point... but they don't fuck around with Cancer & Medecine! You're Right and talk about it... and keep Going after warning shots... then watch yo Back! If you guys want to delve into it... begin researching GCMAF & Nangalese. Only the Tip of the iceberg!

Also research about a Drug called Dinitrophenol (better known as DNP in Bodybuilding circles) Now I don't recommend anyone take it since it's way too dangerous & non pharma grade. After you read about it... I'm sure members from here will have ideas spinning on how this could be really beneficial!

It's a shock to most as even I didn't want to give up meat,dairy and gluten.

Thanks for those recommendations. Its a similiar case with the gerson therapy.dr gerson documented many recoveries but they are not available to the public. The pharmas will never release records of success,they'll only mention those that died from it .

If pharmas did change their mind and told the truth and said they were wrong all along,they'd have to undo what they told us for 50 years which isn't going to happen.

Competitors would say these homepathic physicians were "quackery". The same shaming tactics like sjw's do to men.

It doesn't stop there. Bill gates is the worlds most active campaigner for mandatory vaccinations for all kids. However, studies show he hasn't had his kids vaccine.Hypocrite.

https://newspunch.com/bill-gates-doctor-...Wk-j2NbCok

Post: #40

Isn't that the same site that says stanley kubrick faked the moon landing?

Post: #41

(11-06-2018 07:34 PM)Flux Wrote:  If there was a cure to cancer, no wealthy people would die of it.

Paul Allen just died of a few weeks ago, net worth: 21 billion.

Cures can't be kept secret anyway, because those who find them are scientists, not businessmen. A scientist works for the passion of it, with no desire for anything else.

You're not even talking about a cure, you're talking about prevention... A cure simply hasn't been found, that's a fact.

And Steve Jobs. Although he's partially at fault since he ignored traditional medical treatment when they found it.

Post: #42

OP didn't even get a like from Built to fade.

Post: #43

Homeopathy is quackery. Basic logic tells you that diluting a substance weakens its efficacy (if it had any in the first place). It's an obviously ridiculous idea.

I wouldn't like a homeopaths cooking. Less salt would equal more taste.....

Post: #44

Cancer researcher here- the OP is wrong in so many levels that I can’t begin to list them all.

Picking and choosing anecdotes from the web is exactly what’s wrong with scientific research in this country, as loonies on the left and right use that technique to raise a fuss and drown out the rest of us working in the trenches, to the point where even reasonable people start to get doubts about the best way to treat their disease. It’s also why many of us who run labs have such struggles getting funded.

Post: #45

(11-06-2018 07:33 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Um... so what IS the cure?

Don’t tell me to go vegan. Vegans get cancer too

No, vegans get AIDs.

Post: #46

Cancer is a general term that includes a lot of different things.

You can cure testicular cancer with the Einhorn regimen discovered at IU, but that won't work on other kinds of cancer.

You can sort of cure cervical cancer by not getting it in the first place by taking the vaccine for HPV.

There have been some good strides lately against some really horrific cancers like glioblastoma multiforme.

Different types of cancer will get their specific treatments one by one until most of them are conquered.

Post: #47

(11-07-2018 11:49 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  OP didn't even get a like from Built to fade.

LMAO
You know you fucked up big time, when even Built to fade won't give you a like.

Post: #48

I have a couple of cancers. The real medical treatments I have purchased have been successful so far. Early detection and prompt action can save your life. Also the scanning technology available today is so vastly superior to what was available just a few years ago makes it much more likely that a small stage one tumor will be found while its still treatable with good prognosis

Post: #49

(11-07-2018 04:06 AM)hv123 Wrote:  Sorry but if you put homeopathy in your post you are seriously diluting it's value. Pun intended.

What you're basically saying is that you get a substance that has no anticarcinogenic properties at all and then you dilute it repeatedly until it's at a very low concentration and that stops your ball cancer. Absolute pseudo-science and nonsense.

Homeopathy has been completely debunked numerous times and hardly needs any more explanation here. I just took two asprin. Maybe if i had watered it down 100 times it would work better. Further reading if required.

One of the main reasons people get cancer is because people live longer. Everyone knows that the rate of cancers increases dramatically with age, so if you got killed by the enemy tribe when you were 15 you aren't going to develop cancer at 65 are you. Effective diangnois of illness is also relatively recent so looking back 500 years and wondering why no body wrote about cancer very much is hardly enlightening.

As I've said before on the forum I entreat people with an interest in medicine to read the book "Bad Science" by Ben Goldacre. It's an easy read and not a hardcore text book.

Not true. Cancer rate have been rising sharply, greatly outpacing life expectancy growth, which has been pretty flat for several decades now.

Post: #50

Every health problem has increased by 100-200% in the last 100 years. The food companies are poisoning us where instead of eating food that gives our cells life its destroying them which leads to some kind of health problem. 1 in 3 die from cancer today compare to 100 years ago it was very very rare. Try to find foods without sugar in it today which is very hard. Sugar destroys the cells in your body where if you look at the ingredients and it doesn't make sense (scientific) ...thats cause they are putting poisonous chemical in the food. Try to stay away from take away and anything in a packet. You never know what's really in take away food even.if it's supposed to be healthy. Focus fruits, vegetables, wild fish and only eat meat that's grass fed or organic. They put so much bullshit chemicals in animals that we eat.

Most doctors are sales men for the drug companies today which receive commission on the drugs they sign you up with. If you keep going back for another perception, you are being played. Remember doctors don't make much money if you are in good health...

If you get sick, get all the tests done then Duckduckgo what you have and talk to people that cured themselves online. 99% of the time it will be done naturally.

If you're old it's a different story where Western medicine is great at keeping you alive but you aren't living if your in a vegetable state such as on anti depressions. Drugs all have side effects that will do harm to your body and mind over time!

I haven't been sick since I became a personal trainer 10 years ago and started to eat right. Beforehand, I ate shit all the time, was sick 2- 5 times a year and had little energy. Now I can do 10-14 hours of hard labouring without a problem. I never had this much energy in my life cause I was never giving the cells in my body life! I also wake up refreshed with energy instead of needing coffee in the morning cause my body has little energy left from battling all the poisonous chemicals in the junk food I ate last night!