Post: #1

Hi everyone, I am going to Europe and UAE. Have some days for vacation and I just don’t know if I spend them in Budapest or Dubai. Very different cities, I know the obvios cultural and “things to do” differences, but I am hesitant about where I will find the best party and quality girls to have fun for a week. Never been in neither of those cities so...is new for me.
Dubai seems more of a p4p place, but also a lot of talent and seems fun, although the law restrictions makes it a little weird.
Happy to hear some recommendations from members that have gone to one or both cities

Thanks!

Post: #2

They're radically different cities, but its pretty easy (relatively speaking) to get laid in either if you've the right kind of game for either of them. Budapest is full of easy Western tourist girls, Dubai is full of easy cabin crew girls. There are plenty of threads on the forum with far more detail on both if you search for them.

Given that, you're better off just picking which city interests you more as a city and going there for your own self interest. There will be plenty of available women in either of them.

Post: #3

I've never been to either so my ignorant Caucasian American response would be that I would choose Budapest for more Caucasian opportunities/recreation.

Post: #4

Haven't been to Dubai but have been to Budapest. Knowing what I do about Dubai politically and socially I'm not sure I'd want to try and bang women there be they locals or foreigners (I'd like input on this if anyone's been there, I might be overthinking just how conservative things are). Outside of women I hear the food is wonderfully top quality, expensive but worth it, and there are a number of things to do outside of seeing the Burj Khalifa or go indoor skiing.


As someone who speaks Hungarian to a decent degree my perceptions of Budapest were that while yes you do have a lot of tourists, Hungarian women can be very receptive to going on dates. As everywhere the rate of ONS/SNL will vary but it's not impossible. Avoid Szimpla unless you want tourists, there are bound to be many more ruin pubs in the city that have a more local clientele.

Post: #5

I can't help much but there are lots of rooskiee hotties at the malls and beaches

Post: #6

Been to Dubai a couple of times before. Got a friend who has been living there the past 9 years. One of the things he told me, which I have noticed my first time there is that the "Game" in Dubai is all about money. Dubai is the Vegas of the middle east for rich guys. Doesn't matter how good looking or game you have, 90% of the girls in the clubs or at social settings are these "sponsor" type Instagram models who came all the way from Europe and US to bag some rich oil sheik or a Russian Oligarch. Ironically I noticed the majority of them are blond Irish chicks for some odd reason.

So the only game I use while I was there is " The Rich Man Game". And it works. You basically have to pretend that you are wealthy. It worked easy for me, because my friend has established through his work good relationship with this wealthy Saudi business guy, who whenever would be in town would call him up to hit the town. And when I say wealthy I mean oil money, close to the royal family type of wealth. And he came through during my stay, where they invited me to this club.

It was packed, and when I say packed mostly girls than guys. As soon we arrived we didn’t even had to wait at the door, VIP entrance, and straight to our table. Within 10 min girls where trying to come up to our table. Now the trick with the rich man game is that you have to pretend that you not interested.

If you seem so eager to talk to these thots, they know that you just tagging along, and might just talk to you to get to the main guy with the pockets. But by genuinely not seeming interested, they will hit on you the whole night.


That’s the only type of game that will work in Dubai. Any girl you meet in the club, or at the beach during the day, all are looking for a wealthy guy. However, I find day game to work there to a certain extent. You won't get shut down quick, because if you hit her up on an exclusive part of town, she thinks you might be someone rich or influential and she will try to find out.

But on the bright side, if there was a Thot league, Dubai is where the pros come. Most these girls are pretty hot.

Post: #7

(11-03-2018 12:46 PM)1RationalDoc Wrote:  So the only game I use while I was there is " The Rich Man Game". And it works. You basically have to pretend that you are wealthy.

Haha. Would be hilarious to dress to something like this and see if any Insta hoes would try to suck your dick.



On a serious note, I would recommend Budapest even though I've never been to Dubai and I would assume that Dubai probably have way more 9's and 10's. But Budapest is just a fantastic city.

The biggest downside though, is that is that it doesn't exist any real exclusive clubs in Budapest nowadays and it's harder than usual to find super pretty girls.

But apart from that it has very friendly people (and girls in general), cheap, great food, pretty cute girls that are usually conservative and sweet etc. It will be easier to bang the tourist sluts from other countries but the tourists there are usually not of that high standard.

Post: #8

(11-03-2018 12:46 PM)1RationalDoc Wrote:  Been to Dubai a couple of times before. Got a friend who has been living there the past 9 years. One of the things he told me, which I have noticed my first time there is that the "Game" in Dubai is all about money. Dubai is the Vegas of the middle east for rich guys. Doesn't matter how good looking or game you have, 90% of the girls in the clubs or at social settings are these "sponsor" type Instagram models who came all the way from Europe and US to bag some rich oil sheik or a Russian Oligarch. Ironically I noticed the majority of them are blond Irish chicks for some odd reason.

So the only game I use while I was there is " The Rich Man Game". And it works. You basically have to pretend that you are wealthy. It worked easy for me, because my friend has established through his work good relationship with this wealthy Saudi business guy, who whenever would be in town would call him up to hit the town. And when I say wealthy I mean oil money, close to the royal family type of wealth. And he came through during my stay, where they invited me to this club.

It was packed, and when I say packed mostly girls than guys. As soon we arrived we didn’t even had to wait at the door, VIP entrance, and straight to our table. Within 10 min girls where trying to come up to our table. Now the trick with the rich man game is that you have to pretend that you not interested.

If you seem so eager to talk to these thots, they know that you just tagging along, and might just talk to you to get to the main guy with the pockets. But by genuinely not seeming interested, they will hit on you the whole night.


That’s the only type of game that will work in Dubai. Any girl you meet in the club, or at the beach during the day, all are looking for a wealthy guy. However, I find day game to work there to a certain extent. You won't get shut down quick, because if you hit her up on an exclusive part of town, she thinks you might be someone rich or influential and she will try to find out.

But on the bright side, if there was a Thot league, Dubai is where the pros come. Most these girls are pretty hot.

This is true of only the high end club scene in Dubai. That scene is all new money, Arabs, bottle service, and Russian bottle hoes. The girls are hot, but its a very pricey, and a pretty soul destroying scene. Its high end Vegas but with even more terrible both girls and guys, and higher prices, basically.

The more normal bars have some expat professional girls (mostly Anglosphere), English language teacher girls, and lots of Emirates cabin crew girls. The ratios are terrible at weekends (75/25ish), but the male competition is almost exclusively out of shape alcoholic messes who're more out to down pints with their mates and get hookers in York than to actually talk to girls. If you're under 40, in good shape, and have game its pretty easy to clean up.

Ladies nights in the bars are even better, but are harder to go to if living there because they're usually midweek. But they usually have free booze for girls so actually have decent ratios at the better ones.

Post: #9

Budapest hands down, Dubaï is mainly a P4P destination, Budapest is the city I saw the most beautiful women on Earth.

Post: #10

Do you have the cash to splash about? If yes, hit up Dubai, if no, go to Budapest.

Post: #11

For some reason the RooshV crowd really seems to be into "high end" clubs. I never understood these places. A club I've been to recently was charging up to 2000 EUR/person for VIP. For that kind of money you can save your time, order a couple escorts and have a threesome with change to spare.
As a general rule the most attractive girls are in the 18-25 range and they're usually broke. That's why it's a good idea to look for them in cheap bars, Erasmus parties, EDM clubs geared towards the younger crowd, latin (salsa, bachata) clubs or simply in the shopping malls glues to their phones.

Post: #12

Why would anybody go chasing girls in a destination where you aren't allowed to date a local girls or where pre marital relations are taboo.

I understand if you gotta go there for work. But for chasing tail, It's not recommended

Post: #13

(11-03-2018 01:30 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

(11-03-2018 12:46 PM)1RationalDoc Wrote:  So the only game I use while I was there is " The Rich Man Game". And it works. You basically have to pretend that you are wealthy.

Haha. Would be hilarious to dress to something like this and see if any Insta hoes would try to suck your dick.



On a serious note, I would recommend Budapest even though I've never been to Dubai and I would assume that Dubai probably have way more 9's and 10's. But Budapest is just a fantastic city.

The biggest downside though, is that is that it doesn't exist any real exclusive clubs in Budapest nowadays and it's harder than usual to find super pretty girls.

But apart from that it has very friendly people (and girls in general), cheap, great food, pretty cute girls that are usually conservative and sweet etc. It will be easier to bang the tourist sluts from other countries but the tourists there are usually not of that high standard.

Dude check out this page: http://tagyoursponsor.com

The shit these thots would do. Some of them agree to a threesom with a camel for a big payday haha.

Post: #14

(11-03-2018 01:32 PM)zatara Wrote:  

(11-03-2018 12:46 PM)1RationalDoc Wrote:  Been to Dubai a couple of times before. Got a friend who has been living there the past 9 years. One of the things he told me, which I have noticed my first time there is that the "Game" in Dubai is all about money. Dubai is the Vegas of the middle east for rich guys. Doesn't matter how good looking or game you have, 90% of the girls in the clubs or at social settings are these "sponsor" type Instagram models who came all the way from Europe and US to bag some rich oil sheik or a Russian Oligarch. Ironically I noticed the majority of them are blond Irish chicks for some odd reason.

So the only game I use while I was there is " The Rich Man Game". And it works. You basically have to pretend that you are wealthy. It worked easy for me, because my friend has established through his work good relationship with this wealthy Saudi business guy, who whenever would be in town would call him up to hit the town. And when I say wealthy I mean oil money, close to the royal family type of wealth. And he came through during my stay, where they invited me to this club.

It was packed, and when I say packed mostly girls than guys. As soon we arrived we didn’t even had to wait at the door, VIP entrance, and straight to our table. Within 10 min girls where trying to come up to our table. Now the trick with the rich man game is that you have to pretend that you not interested.

If you seem so eager to talk to these thots, they know that you just tagging along, and might just talk to you to get to the main guy with the pockets. But by genuinely not seeming interested, they will hit on you the whole night.


That’s the only type of game that will work in Dubai. Any girl you meet in the club, or at the beach during the day, all are looking for a wealthy guy. However, I find day game to work there to a certain extent. You won't get shut down quick, because if you hit her up on an exclusive part of town, she thinks you might be someone rich or influential and she will try to find out.

But on the bright side, if there was a Thot league, Dubai is where the pros come. Most these girls are pretty hot.

This is true of only the high end club scene in Dubai. That scene is all new money, Arabs, bottle service, and Russian bottle hoes. The girls are hot, but its a very pricey, and a pretty soul destroying scene. Its high end Vegas but with even more terrible both girls and guys, and higher prices, basically.

The more normal bars have some expat professional girls (mostly Anglosphere), English language teacher girls, and lots of Emirates cabin crew girls. The ratios are terrible at weekends (75/25ish), but the male competition is almost exclusively out of shape alcoholic messes who're more out to down pints with their mates and get hookers in York than to actually talk to girls. If you're under 40, in good shape, and have game its pretty easy to clean up.

Ladies nights in the bars are even better, but are harder to go to if living there because they're usually midweek. But they usually have free booze for girls so actually have decent ratios at the better ones.

Yes, I noticed that. Went to this place called "Irish pub" somewhere close to the airport, don't remember the area. But there were some average looking chicks. The hot once you wont find them in there.

The thing with Dubai is, back in the days it was mainly pro escort coming here from eastern Europe and Africa, and neighbouring Arab countries.

But then with the rise of social media, IG and Snapchat particularly, the IG thots back in the West have found a potential marked here where they all have come in record numbers.

It has now come to that you barely see any Eastern European prositite with the pimp lurking in the background, and more like an IG model playing the independent escort.

And with the Cabin crew chicks they are on the same mission as the IG model, and most of them are IG models themselves.

My friend briefly dated this Australian Emirates Cabin crew chick. They meet when she just arrived and was going through the training process.

As soon she started working that relationship didn't last. She was a pretty girl, and they somehow put her up in the First class section ( which doesn't most of the time happen that quick). She cheated on him with this 50 something married Malaysian business guy with government links.

But he was a smart guy, and he knew this would eventually happening because he seen it before.

Majority of the guys with an HB8-10 girlfriend will eventually loose them, to some oligarch or arab sheik. Thats the other funny observation i made at the bars. Any couple you see the chick is HB8 at best. If she is stunnin 10 she is some rich guys arm candy.

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(11-04-2018 03:27 AM)1RationalDoc Wrote:  She was a pretty girl, and they somehow put her up in the First class section ( which doesn't most of the time happen that quick). She cheated on him with this 50 something married Malaysian business guy with government links.

If you think the guy in first class was the first cheating incident then I've got news for you... It wasn't.

Post: #16

When are you going? Weather in Buda is pretty cold and miserable over the new year period and the whole city kind of dies down as a result, better for avoiding annoying tourists but also greatly drops the number of women out and about and Buda is a city that draws in hot women tourists like few others because of how beautiful a city it is so it's a hit to the quantity.

Locals are good looking, interesting and fun but can be hard nuts to crack as well.

Haven't done Dubai but the weather is obviously going to be much better at this time of year, I envision Vegas on steroids with the insta thottery and wealth game but if you're good at that game then that's a positive I imagine.

Post: #17

Just got back from Budapest after one month of being there.

positives --

beautiful city; lots of clubs, cafes, restaurants; nice downtown and night life; good transportation system; their thermal baths are a unique experience and quite amazing; historic buildings filled with a rich history; nice architecture; Vienna, Austria and Bratislava are close by on bus; Budapest is a walk able city - you can get to most places on foot or bus.

not so positives --

Hungarians are reserved people - not very helpful and weary of foreigners; You need to be independent as much as possible; Feminism is making more influence there. Almost all girls you see there are absorbed on their smart phones; Gaming not no easy there anymore -- women not so impressed with foreigners and prefer their own boys; breaking into social circles difficult; spending money will be necessary- Hungarians love money and become quite friendly if you show you want to spend it on them; Hungarians often suffer from depression and it has one of the highest suicides rates in Europe - lot of articles you can find on the net about this-- Hungary lost 2/3 of its country to its neighbors during the wars and they are still pissed off about it.

Recommendations --

Make sure you rent a place to stay in District vii or 7 area. It will be worth the extra cost if their is any - this is an important point.

Never go direct with Hungarians especially the women -- usually they are more receptive if you show no interest in them. Go indirectly and once you have communication then you can build from there. Do not ask for any favors bc you won't get any.

Make sure you have good travel and medical insurance. You don't want to get sick or hurt there bc Hungarians likely will not want to help you.

Watch out for the cars - they have a habit of trying to show pedestrians who own the roads.
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Overall it is still a good city -- but I think its glory days have passed. It is becoming westernized and feminized quite quickly. A lot of western businesses are setting up there and along with that comes the feminist culture.

Post: #18

Bain

Did you meet any RVF members there ?

What about online vs night game ..any success ?

I want to go back there

Post: #19

(11-04-2018 10:28 AM)rishboy77 Wrote:  Bain

Did you meet any RVF members there ?

What about online vs night game ..any success ?

I want to go back there

No RVF members I could find. As far as online I have never found that useful considering my older age. Night game also not easy unless you are high on the looks department and more young. I think day game is still the best option there.

But big money is coming into Budapest and the smart phone has changed the culture. It is already getting more expensive there and this trend will likely continue. Honestly I don't see going back there worthwhile. In a few years from now it is going to be a different place. Especially women's attitudes are changing and you can see the feminism influencing them.

Post: #20

(11-04-2018 09:41 AM)Bain Wrote:  not so positives --

Hungarians are reserved people - not very helpful and weary of foreigners; You need to be independent as much as possible; Feminism is making more influence there. Almost all girls you see there are absorbed on their smart phones; Gaming not no easy there anymore -- women not so impressed with foreigners and prefer their own boys; breaking into social circles difficult; spending money will be necessary- Hungarians love money and become quite friendly if you show you want to spend it on them; Hungarians often suffer from depression and it has one of the highest suicides rates in Europe - lot of articles you can find on the net about this-- Hungary lost 2/3 of its country to its neighbors during the wars and they are still pissed off about it.

Interesting. I felt they are slightly reserved too compared to say italians or french, but I wonder if it also can have something to do with them being uncomfortable speaking anything else than hungarian. I've learned quite a lot of hungarian now and I'll see if I get a different experience.

But feminism?? I don't know. You must come from a different time because I think Hungary is as good as it can get in terms of that today.
I have a chick (sweetest girl I've ever met by the tway) I see whenever I'm in Budapest and she has introduced me to some female friends and they all have conservative and traditional values and they laugh at me when I talk about the feminism I've experienced elsewhere like Sweden.

On Sundays there are also shitloads of couples walking around and I would say that it's probably this "K-selected culture" that can make it harder to game there if you want to score ONS.

Jobbik, the 2nd biggest party in Hungary had like 20% of the votes in the last election and Victor Orban's Fidesz-KDNP had like 49% and they're are all national conservative parties that are anti-gay-marriage, anti-abortion, anti-immigration, anti-degenerate etc. meanwhile the left and the other crazy are very small there. So I don't see this change anytime soon and that's probably why EU and most other western countries hate Hungary.

Another example is when George Soros tried to have his University and some organization there to teach kids about feminism and all this degenerate bullshit but they throwed that out of the country.

And as far as online game in Hungary, it's not impressive. I think that anywhere where there isn't much of a ONS culture, won't be a great place for online game either. If one wants to bang many sluts and use online, go to New York, but the standard of the women will be what it is then.
And even if Budapest became too westernized, there will still be other cities (not as big though).

Post: #21

Hungarian guys are good looking on average so the competetion is hard. i would choose neither tbh for gaming
budapest is a great travel destination.better than dubai.far better.ive been to both

but for me poland or ukraine for girls.

Post: #22

Quote:But feminism?? I don't know. You must come from a different time because I think Hungary is as good as it can get in terms of that today.

Times are changing there now-- the smart phone changes the culture as it promotes western feminist and lgbtq values rapidly. I came across a big Gay club right in the downtown. Women especially are glued to their cell phone where you go.

Another point is that ratios in clubs and most other places are out of wack. I once counted 15 girls to 50 guys. A lot of girls you meet are waiting for their boyfriend -- that happened to me many times.

Still Budapest is a good place though.

Post: #23

(11-05-2018 04:51 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  But feminism?? I don't know. You must come from a different time because I think Hungary is as good as it can get in terms of that today.
I have a chick (sweetest girl I've ever met by the tway) I see whenever I'm in Budapest and she has introduced me to some female friends and they all have conservative and traditional values and they laugh at me when I talk about the feminism I've experienced elsewhere like Sweden.

On Sundays there are also shitloads of couples walking around and I would say that it's probably this "K-selected culture" that can make it harder to game there if you want to score ONS.

Feminism there is still nothing compared to Anglo countries. But it is there, and it is increasing. Unfortunately I met a bunch of local girls who identified as such, one was even organising demonstrations.

Go further into EE and you'll find better than Hungarians. Maybe you got lucky but it's pretty widely known their girls are sluts... not a k-selected culture at all, especially in Budapest. Boyfriends sure, but they'll still give you a shot as long as he's not about to roll up right then.

As a city though it's actually pretty hard to beat and has a lot to offer in other ways, great place to have fun and notch up but wouldn't hunt for a LTR there.

Post: #24

Not even a choice.

Budapest

Post: #25

JimBobs, I am going the last week of November. So , I also thought about the weather. Do you think is too bad for the date in Budapest? That issue is keeping me from going to Poland or EE, as Zamfir suggests, but happy to hear from European members about how bad is the weather (and the game) at that time of the year. I just thought Budapest should be better than other central/EE in that regard ...and with pretty girls that speak english...but I read some bad comments here that makes me wonder.

On the side of Dubai. I am curious about that city and all the hype. And the weather should be great, which is a big plus. I guess I can play somehow the rich man game,.... but solo, and I have the feeling that “rich game” will lead only to pros or semi-pros in that city. I think if I go to Dubai, I will just enjoy the show, which is not that bad for one time in life...and maybe I am lucky.

Lot of comments! I appreciate that. Still hesitant, so.., good to get more!