Post: #76

I took it as a troll too. Was very surprised when pain positive vouched. While I know many rich men who use their money to make their lives very convenient, the first post was poorly explained.

I think the subsequent posts made it more clear in that OP isn’t looking for a friend or Equal or wingman, but basically a personal assistant who will be there for him and not for themselves as well.

That’s reasonable but I think this forum is for men so a more reasonable approach is to first ask for meetups among men or offering to take up the accommodation and just meet up. I’m currently traveling for a month with a friend who I’ve met from Roosh.

Nothing against what OP is asking for but like pain positive experienced, a worthy alpha or whatever u call it isn’t gonna take kindly to basically be someone’s maid and that will lead to personality clashes.

OP is most likely to find a snake oil salesman type or some beta follower. Hopefully he will luck out with a cool dude who just happens to need some money.

Post: #77

(10-09-2018 10:43 AM)Beirut Wrote:  I took it as a troll too. Was very surprised when pain positive vouched. While I know many rich men who use their money to make their lives very convenient, the first post was poorly explained.

I think the subsequent posts made it more clear in that OP isn’t looking for a friend or Equal or wingman, but basically a personal assistant who will be there for him and not for themselves as well.

That’s reasonable but I think this forum is for men so a more reasonable approach is to first ask for meetups among men or offering to take up the accommodation and just meet up. I’m currently traveling for a month with a friend who I’ve met from Roosh.

Nothing against what OP is asking for but like pain positive experienced, a worthy alpha or whatever u call it isn’t gonna take kindly to basically be someone’s maid and that will lead to personality clashes.

OP is most likely to find a snake oil salesman type or some beta follower. Hopefully he will luck out with a cool dude who just happens to need some money.

The 300 Spartans were beta. True story.

I hate it when such terms are abused in the manosphere.

Beta is nothing to be ashamed of. Indeed, NO RANK is anything to be ashamed of if it's who you are and what you feel comfortable with, and the mindset that being a follower is bad is precisely the mindset of bad followers.

But a real man knows both when to lead, and when to follow. Look at the military: full of real men from top to bottom. Or what? Only the supreme commander is a man and everyone else is a faggot? The commando spilling his blood in some desert or jungle halfway around the world by simply following orders is not a man? Is an inferior man?

Fuck this shit, dudes. This is some gay ass shit, and I won't condone it. There is nothing shameful about following if that's what you want to do, but there IS shame in trying to shame people for doing what they want to do.

The Only 'Alpha Male' Rule - Do What You Want
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GLL Wrote:Do Whatever the Fuck You Want

I for one am 100% legit alpha male and would love to be OP's personal assistant for a spell, and fuck whoever tries to shame me for it.

Post: #78

(10-09-2018 06:05 AM)sethg Wrote:  OP has already answered all of this, but like half the people replying here, you're not paying attention. He listed a TON of skills beyond being friends. Indeed he listed TOO MANY of them, which is why Roosh said that he's asking to fill the roles of FOUR people, and that if anyone possessed all these skills he'd probably be a superman who already led the kind of life that OP wants to live.

In sum, reading comprehension is your friend. Try it.

Eh? All I saw is:

Must be able to travel to Thailand/Bali easily.
Must take being a wingman seriously and have decent game.
Must be chill/easy-going, easy to hang out with
Help with running errands / logistical stuff
Positive attitude

+ Ideally:
Good looking
Tall & muscular
Possible bodyguard support
+ possibly act as an event planner/road manager

"Help with running errands" "Positive attitude." "Must be chill." Come on. I check off the whole list except except I'm not tall and wouldn't make a good bodyguard. Looking at the list, I bet half the forum qualifies. That's why I asked for more specifics.

There is nothing demanding about these qualifications. There's a lot of chill, good looking guys with decent game who are also capable of running errands that would love to party with OP and earn some $ by doubling as a personal assistant.

Lots of young people in this boat who want a little extra cash + learning about business.

Quote:I for one am 100% legit alpha male and would love to be OP's personal assistant for a spell, and fuck whoever tries to shame me for it.

Look, even you think that you can do it.

Post: #79

(10-09-2018 09:06 PM)Tactician Wrote:  There is nothing demanding about these qualifications.

Good looking
Tall & muscular
Solid game
Solid socializing
Bodyguard

This is the resume of a superman. I barely ever see anyone in here describe themselves as "good-looking", let alone all the other things combined, AND be independent enough to be available to fly to Thailand for months.

You can blag and bluster all you want, Tactician, but everyone can see you are full of bs.

Post: #80

(10-09-2018 09:36 PM)sethg Wrote:  

(10-09-2018 09:06 PM)Tactician Wrote:  There is nothing demanding about these qualifications.

Good looking
Tall & muscular
Solid game
Solid socializing
Bodyguard

This is the resume of a superman. I barely ever see anyone in here describe themselves as "good-looking", let alone all the other things combined, AND be independent enough to be available to fly to Thailand for months.

You can blag and bluster all you want, Tactician, but everyone can see you are full of bs.

You do realise a lot of this is open to interpretation right?

What defines "solid game"?
How good is "good looking"
How muscular is muscular? Bulky or ripped? (Either of those is muscular... just be fit and don't be a fat fuck).
Must be tall? In SEA most Westerners are taller than the average...

This isn't superman stuff. Infact, I'd probably do it if I actually wanted to go to SEA. And I'm not "tall" or "traditionally good looking" but in SEA? Maybe I am?

In fact, fuck these jokers! I could use a change of scenery. If you can't find anyone by mid November Travelling Party then shoot me a PM. I'm pretty chill and just an overnight flight away too.

Post: #81

^ Maybe I'm downplaying or misinterpreted some of OP's qualifications. It's not my intention to come off as braggart or big baller troll or anything of that sort.
I took Good looking to mean above average, not male model. Working out + taking care of you skin helps with this.
Being tall is a toss up, but a lot of us are muscular. I'm not jacked, but can lift a decent amount. Lots of members here are far more muscular than me.
OP said decent game, but even solid game isn't a stretch for a lot of members here although most would be too humble to describe their game as solid.
Socializing often comes with game.
As for bodyguard, I definitely wouldn't be comfortable doing this, but a lot of members here are into MMA.
Flying to Thailand for months either implies location independence or being young enough that you are still figuring things out.

Anyway, I'm not trying to start beef. I can think of a younger guy from my life that would have fit this bill very well a few years ago when he was still trying to figure things out.

He was tall, handsome, had solid game, and hit the gym often, but he was bad with money and didn't have a career path chosen. He would have loved to do a gig like this.

Again, it could be that I'm underestimating OP's requirements and if so that's my bad. I'm not gunning for this job. Best of luck to you & OP.
Peace.

quick edit: replying to sethg

Post: #82

(10-09-2018 10:59 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  You do realise a lot of this is open to interpretation right?
...
And I'm not "tall" or "traditionally good looking" but in SEA? Maybe I am?

Jacques Derrida was a French philosopher who became famous for his "deconstruction" skills: i.e. taking something you said and interpreting it to mean the opposite of what you meant. Kind of like how you interpreted tall and handsome to mean average height and average looks.

But that's precisely the type of navel-gazing bs that wouldn't be helpful to OP. 9/10 guys here have posted reams of text about personal deficiencies. I've been reading it for years. Quite a lot of it is quite depressing, so you can't really miss it. And now that I have seen OP's FB page, I can tell you with perfect certainty that the vast majority of these people don't have what it takes to hang with him without in some way embarrassing him. At best, a handful of people would be able to fake it for a few days/weeks before problems started arising. Then OP would have to terminate the partnership and look for a replacement, as happened with the previous person he hired from here. Being "too alpha" to get a job done that's not exactly rocket science is a personal deficiency, believe it or not.

I am 100% certain that there are a handful of individuals here who can fulfill OP's requirements. The question is:

1. Are they available and interested

and,

2. How can OP find them among the (presumed) mass of people applying

Whatever happens, it will be fun and a learning experience for everyone involved; I just don't want the complexity of the task to be underestimated. It is complex, and chances are OP will be disappointed, as he was the last time, unless he gets lucky or is very thorough and discerning.

Post: #83

(10-07-2018 06:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  7 day ban for Going Strong for trying to start a rumor that OP is a criminal drug pusher after he was repped by another trusted member.

Roosh the OP claims to know you. Why not just comment on if that is true or not to dispel the doubt in this thread?

It sounds completely bizarre to me. Hiring a former Thai soldier to work as a bodyguard to go to the Full Moon Party or Phi Phi?

Post: #84

Hey OP, I just made an account so cant PM you but message me.

Post: #85

(10-10-2018 12:16 AM)sethg Wrote:  

(10-09-2018 10:59 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  You do realise a lot of this is open to interpretation right?
...
And I'm not "tall" or "traditionally good looking" but in SEA? Maybe I am?

Jacques Derrida was a French philosopher who became famous for his "deconstruction" skills: i.e. taking something you said and interpreting it to mean the opposite of what you meant. Kind of like how you interpreted tall and handsome to mean average height and average looks.

You also missed an important part of the OP's spiel: "Ideally someone"...

Ideal. It would be ideal, in a perfect world. The way I read that sort of thing is that if all the primary criteria is covered then it would be great as a bonus for the same price.

Either way, OP won't get EVERYTHING he is looking for. That's called a unicorn so expectations need to be managed a little.

Post: #86

(10-10-2018 04:48 AM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  Either way, OP won't get EVERYTHING he is looking for.

He'll get it if he hires me, and a lot more besides, which I explained to him in my message

Post: #87

(10-10-2018 05:02 AM)sethg Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 04:48 AM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  Either way, OP won't get EVERYTHING he is looking for.

He'll get it if he hires me, and a lot more besides, that I explained to him in my message

lol, that explains your shitting on everyone else... watch out OP, you might get more head than you bargained for

Post: #88

(10-10-2018 12:16 AM)sethg Wrote:  And now that I have seen OP's FB page, I can tell you with perfect certainty that the vast majority of these people don't have what it takes to hang with him without in some way embarrassing him. At best, a handful of people would be able to fake it for a few days/weeks before problems started arising.

Fair enough. Sometimes I see this in finance circles where you often have very tall, muscular guys with tons of charisma along side 'quant' nerds and if they were elsewhere, at a pub or something, it would look very mismatched.

Best of luck to OP & everyone here.

Post: #89

(10-10-2018 05:05 AM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  lol, that explains your shitting on everyone else... watch out OP, you might get more head than you bargained for

I have not shat on anyone. You are the one shitting in the thread of the man who asks for tall and handsome by redefining his requirements as "average-height" and "average-looking" because apparently the Western girls OP is after somehow drop their standards the moment they touch down in Thailand. Do you think OP is looking to hang out with an idiot who twists his own words after they've barely left his mouth?

And for the record, the reason I registered this month was because I am planning a massive data sheet on Tenerife, where I live, and at the end of which I will put out a call for a roommate and wingman. I have my immediate plans fixed, and they are lovely, but OP's deal looked too good to pass up, so I put in my attempt. That's all. I am not trying to belittle anyone who is not already making an ass of himself in this thread, and I hope my contributions have been valuable to the OP and to everyone else who's taken an interest in this thread. See y'all in my Tenerife thread soon!

Post: #90

loool, no need to qualify yourself seth.

Good luck... although quit nerd raging and enjoy the humour, it's part of the laid back requirement.

Post: #91

(10-10-2018 05:55 AM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  loool, no need to qualify yourself seth. Good luck, try some humour tho... it's part of the laid back requirement.

It's a job. You are supposed to qualify yourself. And I find picking apart people like you quite amusing, personally.

Post: #92

To get back on topic, I am intrigued by the relationship between being "good at game", and being a "chill and relaxed dude". Because being good at game means, among other things, being a leader of men and capable of holding a group's attention, having the killer instinct to pull triggers when you see an opening etc., so I doubt that being a chilled surfer dude, for example, is very compatible with these abilities. To be sure, there are many styles of game that can work for various people, so really it is a matter of seeing what style is OP's and what style would be a good fit for him in his employee, in his capacity as wingman. But to what degree can this be determined over the internet? Spending a night out with each promising candidate (or with all of them simultaneously, if possible) would be the absolute minimum to have any degree of confidence in the choice. Otherwise it's kind of a crap shoot, no? But if OP can afford to try out several people in situ (i.e. in Thailand) over a period of a few weeks, he will surely get what he wants in the end. It's just a question of patience and money.

Post: #93

Whats up, man. Forum wont let me send you a PM, but this might be a good fit.

I'm either quitting my job beginning of December or I'm demanding a few months off if they want to keep me. Can't give you a guarantee until then, but I'd be able to "easily travel to Bali or Thailand." Planned on spending a few months in Europe or SA, but this seems like a good time.

I'm late 20s, 6' 180. Been lifting for 10+ years now, and I play sports a few times a week (mostly basketball). I'm originally from NY, but I've lived in CA for about 5 years now. San Diego feels like home to me, but I've been in Santa Monica for the last year. People tell me I seem like I'm from CA, which I guess, means I'm chill. I still feel like a New Yorker though.

I have a pretty diverse amount of interests and hobbies, and have a pretty interesting life. Meditation is something that's important to me, as well.

My going out vibe depends on who I'm with, where I am, and what mood I'm in. Sometimes I'm chilling, sometimes I'm dancing, sometimes I'm outgoing, and talking and laughing with everyone. I think of going out as an invitation for adventure, or an outlet to express myself, not some sort of mission. A wingman to me is someone that can hold their own, doesn't have some weird, nervous energy, and is someone that also enjoys joking and laughing. I never think about opening, closing, or game anymore. I seem to catch eyes. Conversations usually end up happening, everyone's laughing and having fun, and that leads to who knows where.. you seem like you know what I mean.

Shoot me a PM if this sounds good. I'd be happy to talk more.

Post: #94

Some of the replies in this thread are incredibly cringe worthy.

Post: #95

Beginning to look like the village voice personals... with a bit of horoscope section thrown in. Funny.

My turn. OP. I’m not really interested in working for you. But we may have a lot in common. I’d be open to having beers. We may both be traveling in Thailand this winter. Already here in fact.

Post: #96

OP,

I do not fit or meet any of your qualifications. But I wish you good luck on your travels.

Post: #97

I am hesitant as most guys would have friends for this but your situation is not unlikely, at all.

I know a few guys who do this but are 35+ and their groups have families etc.

This thread will probably get derailed by guys squabbling over your requirements, so you can PM me further information if you want a wingman, mid-20s etc.

Post: #98

Sounds like a pretty good gig to me. Alas I'm only 5'11 so no chance of making the tall requirement so wont waste the OP's time on it (got some other shit going on as well but could potentially actually be available at the times required).

As someone a few years older I can totally buy the putting up someone to hang out with, once mates start going down the LTR pathway you need to find a way to find people and honestly if you're looking for your mate to do a bunch of things that are essentially job-like then offering remuneration for that is a good way to go. I mean the ideal result is that OP finds someone he clicks with and he's basically just allowing one of his mates to hang out with him, worst case he's got control of the scenario and can next the candidate if it's not working.

Sure, seems too good to be true for those with a pretty narrow view on things but as someone who has ended up on multi-million dollar yachts for a month, partying at penthouses for a week with people you met a kebab store and some other similarly random events purely from just talking to people and realising your current aims are similar I can buy it.

I know I've only got maybe one friend in my social circle that could drop their life to come on the road even if I was paying their way, sad fact is that even your alpha mates will end up in the rat race for at least some period of your life and the late 20s is absolutely the main period that happens.

I can only wish luck to the OP that he finds someone suitable and to whoever he finds that it's a gig that's as good as it sounds.

Post: #99

Thanks guys for the positivity and input, I’m in the middle of traveling and on pretty on-the-go atm but will review people interested over the next few weeks till I find the right guy. Cheers and thank you guys your interests (and if you are just finding this thread feel free to still send me a PM if you haven’t yet).

Post: #100

Interesting, I'm mid-30s though would that be considered too old for your requirements and the job? I'm a good wingman and planning to travel to Bangkok anyway for Xmas, first time in SEA! But probably by then you'll have found someone. Wish you luck OP, keep us updated!