Post: #601

I've never actually felt unsafe in Birmingham, ever.

Never felt like I couldn't go where I want, when I want.

Doesn't mean it isn't a post industrial shit hole full of Muslims and other scum, of course.

Post: #602

One thing I'm noticing is a level of passive anger among some young white British in London at the moment.

I'm basing that on two incidents alone, and it's totally outweighed by passive acceptance, but still...

This has gone way too far. If you live in London, you see gradual progression that breeds gradual acceptance. But seeing a difference every couple of years...

People are so scared of the 'R' word that it's almost impossible to have sensible discussion based on realities. It's fucking ridiculous.

All this passive anger is bad news...

(no one is talking about race/background/nationality... irrelevant. It's behaviour, non-integration, language that people find so offensive. Seems that can't be addressed without being labelled)

Post: #603

The people are left essentially powerless to fight for their own survival as a people and a nation that existed for millennia. Even the so-called centrists who are actually pretty much to the left like Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murrey are essentially just shills for the leftist status quo:





To the right they simply say - lower taxes and next step is Nazi and genocide.

Playing for your own team or extended family is not genocide. Otherwise every passionate football match would result in mass genocide.

The Newspeak is actually here since you cannot voice simple subjects even point to the fact that you don't hate anyone of a different tribe, but like to just have your own people still existing and inhabiting the lands your ancestors fought for. But no - the British are doomed to become minorities in their own homecountries - probably be some 30% by 2100 - most of the survivors being pretty old.

Great to piss away a legacy spanning millennia. All the Sargonesque, Peterson and Paul Joseph Watson euphemisms of British being a piece of paper will not help you jack shit.

Any more that a copy of the US constitution and a copy of the US White House in Liberia does not create an African USA:



And the ones who complain are called Nazis, because everyone knows that Japan and Korea are doing daily race-genocide to stay pure. If they took in 500.000 non-Japanese per year with subsequent sharia-no-go-zones, acid attacks and mass-gang-rapes, then you can bet your left nutsack, that they would be recreating the Empire and dusting off the Samurai spirit.

It's sad, but that is how a nation goes down and is annihilated - the quiet way where complainers are ostracized to even talk about it.

RIP London. RIP Britain. Your best hope is a brutal civil war in the future that might help you retain your character and fucking great that this is the best option.

Post: #604

(09-21-2018 02:56 PM)sterlingarcher Wrote:  One thing I'm noticing is a level of passive anger among some young white British in London at the moment.

I'm basing that on two incidents alone, and it's totally outweighed by passive acceptance, but still...

This has gone way too far. If you live in London, you see gradual progression that breeds gradual acceptance. But seeing a difference every couple of years...

People are so scared of the 'R' word that it's almost impossible to have sensible discussion based on realities. It's fucking ridiculous.

All this passive anger is bad news...

(no one is talking about race/background/nationality... irrelevant. It's behaviour, non-integration, language that people find so offensive. Seems that can't be addressed without being labelled)

It does surprise me when I speak to other Brits elsewhere in the U.K that are shocked to hear about all the stabbings and acid attacks in London.

Growing up and seeing that sort of stuff as well as being victim of robberies etc was 'part and parcel' of growing up.

Further to this I have been called 'white cunt' and other profanities over the years. The latest was by a crackhead when I was on the way to work and that was just last week. Time to move soon but I have a few loose ends to tie up here career wise.

The feeling I get, is that a lot of Brits live in a fairy tale land. They still believe that they are the majority and that superficial issues like public spending should be focused on.
As I said before, Inner London is just a projection of the future. Already areas in the home counties are now getting 'gang related' murders and are subsequently seeing their local cultures change.

The British police is done for, they simply don't have the money anymore. And years of social engineering has created it into a 'service'. Cops who are robust eventually get severely punished and it has taken the teeth out of law enforcement. Gangs and criminals understand that better than anyone else.

Military is close to following and other public services like the NHS are done for.
This is not my assessment from reading the Daily Mail but actually from being up close and personal and obtaining anecdotal evidence.

Young men in the U.K that I see around are extremely depressed. They are all packing up and getting to leave. These are the smart ones however, the essex lads who are getting coked up and making good money as recruitment consultants will probably stick around.

Post: #605

Utterly depressing read, and I know you know more about this than most. It's enough to push one towards the ethnonationalists' arguments.

@Simeon: Douglas Murray is in no way "on the left", have you read his book The Strange Death of Europe? Much of it reads like a more academic form of what you post yourself.

Post: #606

(09-22-2018 12:11 AM)Teedub Wrote:  Utterly depressing read, and I know you know more about this than most. It's enough to push one towards the ethnonationalists' arguments.

@Simeon: Douglas Murray is in no way "on the left", have you read his book The Strange Death of Europe? Much of it reads like a more academic form of what you post yourself.

I listened to some talks by Douglas Murray and he certainly has internalized some ethnic ideas similarly to how this was natural to every Western society up until the 1960s - they did not even have to find words and definitions for it, because it was common thinking like having murder, rape and robbery outlawed. There was not even a need for a debate on this.

But during the interview I saw that Murray is very much a defender of the status quo - certainly more to the right than Peterson, but not much. His book will likely bear that out more - though who knows - in private he may be voicing his ideas much more strongly.

And Teedub - the ethnonationalist side is where the logical conclusion lies anyway. It's a tough call to make for one not descended from that ethnicity, but that is where the world's smartest man, that is where the Dalai Lama and where the 160-IQ black American Renegade of Funk, where the 100% Jewish corporate lawyer Frame Games - where they all arrived at. And that is where even I - a more classical liberal per se with many non-White friends, who has fucked quite a few non-White women, also arrived at.

It's simply the logical conclusion. A simple explanation:

The UK is currently roughly 82-84% European (here used as an ethnic definition as those whose ancestors lived there for tens of thousands of years) - among those you already have the Polish and other Euro-stocks. On paper that sounds fine if it would remain that way with mainly the Muslim part and some unruly new Africans causing the most trouble. If that would remain that way - with Islam being dealt with, then the UK would be fine.

However - any look at the birth stats and the schools show you that within one generation the majority of the British demographic is going to be non-European. And that will accelerate since you get 300-500.000 non-European immigrants per year on top of that. The entire Calais camp wants to go to the UK.

So what do you think will happen to Britain when those very very un-British and un-European tribes become majorities in the UK in the next decades? Does anyone think that anything can be done about it then, when 70% of men under 30 are non-White?

Thus similar to Israel you have to embed in the constitution that Britain must be for the Anglos with more leeway towards other ethnic Europeans - you could even encompass Indians and some Asians, Africans as a Commonwealth residue a certain part of the percentage. There are ways to stop that all - even peacefully - with money, paying Muslims to leave, stop of non-White immigration, acceptance of millions of White South Africans etc. A still wealthy country like the UK can reverse the trend and still have many blacks and Indians live happily in the UK. That is a sensible ethnic-based approach. With that approach Britain would still be British in 2100 and not a hodgepodge of non-Europeans who have the demographic and electoral whip over the rest. And let's face it - the classical liberal approach will be thrown out the moment those tribes are the majority. "Let's vote for a White Privilege tax!" "Done!" etc.

Similarly to how Jews like Frame Games can voice the JQ without hate or ideas of gas chambers, the same can be done with ethnic-nationalism. It's just a consideration of what you want your country to look like not only now, but also in 20-50 years and you want to preserve your culture. There is no difference to it vs considerations of not creating waste fills everywhere and hunting all animals into obvlivion, cutting down all trees, because who cares - your children and grandchildren don't have to see a fucking forest. No one thinks like that in terms of nature in Europe, but they are brainwashed to not see that fact that Europe with a minority European population will be fucked to the 10th degree.

A moderate view on ethno-nationalism is a necessity and logical conclusion. But I understand when black Americans while sharing that view, just say: "Either Whites get their shit together or don't - I agree with those ethno-nationalists, but it's not my game to play as a black guy."

And I get that.

Here the quote from the world's currently highest tested man Langan - who is also more of a wild guy closer to Manosphere views, doing bodybuilding, surviving on various jobs despite being able to be working for the NSA or the corporate world for millions:

Quote:“[…] My view on identity politics is that it can be justified only if everyone of any ethnicity is entitled to participate, in which case it is necessary for all (because failing to assert it, as when White people of European ancestry fail to assert it lest they be branded as “racists”, means leaving oneself and one’s group defenseless against competition for resources and opportunity). Alternatively, lest any group be denied its identity while others assert their own, group identity must be equitably denied to everyone.

Human identity is stratified, and thus has both individual and group levels. Accordingly, we can (and sometimes must) reason in terms of group identity. But when group self-identification is officially granted to some groups yet denied to others against which they compete, this can only result in imbalance and injustice. For example, when some overpopulating groups which have overtaxed their own resources by reproductive incontinence and homegrown oligarchy are allowed to migrate into the sovereign territories of worldwide ethnic minorities - e.g., people of European descent - and enjoy special “oppressed” status whereby they reap special benefits such as free food, free housing, free education, free healthcare, affirmative action, reproductive subsidies, and special treatment under the law, and are even credited with moral superiority due to their alleged “oppression”, this can result in the destruction of the national, cultural, and ethnic identity of the hosts, leading ultimately to their extinction. Incoming groups which assert their own collective identities while denying their hosts any reciprocal right of political group cohesion thus amount to noxious, invasive, and ultimately lethal socioeconomic parasites. Obviously, any governmental authority which enforces or encourages such asymmetry - e.g., the European Union - is illegitimate.

Bear in mind that once we cease to treat individuals as individuals per se, thus allowing members of their respective groups to assert their ethnic, cultural, or religious (etc.) identities against their “oppressors”, their group properties and statistics are automatically opened to scrutiny and comparative analysis. For example, if after several generations of special treatment in the educational sphere (compulsory school integration, special programs, modifications of educational procedure, racially defined college admission preferences, etc.), a particular “oppressed” group fails as a whole to outgrow these measures, its members are no longer entitled to exemption from objective characterization in terms of associated group statistics; if one wants to enjoy the social benefits attending ethically loaded group-defined properties like “belonging to an oppressed group”, one must submit to rational policies formed on the basis of not just individual assessment, but empirically confirmed group-defined properties such as “belonging to a group exhibiting a relatively low mean IQ and a tendency to violently disrupt the educational environment”. Continuing to pursue racially parameterized measures of human worth and achievement can only lead to personal injustice, social degradation, and biological degeneration (because such measures inevitably supplant any rational form of social, economic, and reproductive selection).

In short, identity politics should either be shut down immediately, or the majority populations of Europe and North America should be encouraged to assert their own ethnic and cultural identities and group interests with full force. Any governmental, academic, religious, or media authority which tries to prevent it is clearly unworthy of respect and obedience.”

I love it how he calls governments like the EU or many in the West as illegitimate. They are - they are essentially destroying the West. And all the oppressed-scale bullshit is also to be instantly stopped, because obviously some groups don't improve their social standing even after generations. Plus - borders are not enforced and those under-performing groups will simply destroy the more advanced host populations or make them very ineffective similar to how South American countries operate - or fail to operate properly.

Obviously Langan was called racist for that, but that is of course logical.

Post: #607

Pray for a relatively soft economic collapse. The barbarian invaders are mostly just opportunists looking to piggyback on several hundred years of steady civilisation building. Several decades of grinding poverty would stop the flow and send many packing, and the cuck faggots among the native stock will no longer have the largess required to sit on their moral high horses while the poor folk battle it out against the Mohammedean hordes.

A series of cascading economic disasters that collapse the welfare state and force human normality back on the populace will be ironically far more civil than white genocide or the race war required to prevent it.

Post: #608

(09-21-2018 03:31 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The people are left essentially powerless to fight for their own survival as a people and a nation that existed for millennia. Even the so-called centrists who are actually pretty much to the left like Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murrey are essentially just shills for the leftist status quo:

And the ones who complain are called Nazis, because everyone knows that Japan and Korea are doing daily race-genocide to stay pure. If they took in 500.000 non-Japanese per year with subsequent sharia-no-go-zones, acid attacks and mass-gang-rapes, then you can bet your left nutsack, that they would be recreating the Empire and dusting off the Samurai spirit.

It's sad, but that is how a nation goes down and is annihilated - the quiet way where complainers are ostracized to even talk about it.

RIP London. RIP Britain. Your best hope is a brutal civil war in the future that might help you retain your character and fucking great that this is the best option.

The problem Leonard is that these are the fuckwits that thrive on being on the margins of a shitty collapsing society. 79 year old widowed Mildred living on her own in a totally changed neighbourhood and surrounded by these dickheads will be the one who suffers from an economic collapse.

My reckoning Simeon: there will be a version of the London Riots, this time based on race, no go zones and migration, right across Britain within the next ten years.

There will be 5 times the violence for about 5 times the duration and about 5 times the casualties -so not that many- (probably a few notable atrocities involved).

What effect it will have on anyone or anything remains to be seen...

Post: #609

why is london so strongly effected by crime? Percentagewise other EU cities, such as Amsterdam, have larger muslim populations, yet acid attacks aren't a thing there. Do you guys think it's the "quality" of immigrants the UK has, i.e. Pakistanis, Nigerians, that are the main issue?
And why were there more total homicides per year in the 1990s, despite a most-likely smaller muslim population and smaller overall population? And then the increase in recent years after a significant drop just doesn't make sense to me.

There is also speculation that there will be new post-Brexit trade agreements with the former colonies than will presumably lead to an influx of immigrants from those countries. Ironic, seeing as though immigration was also a pillar of the whole brexit movement.

Post: #610

(09-22-2018 07:22 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  why is london so strongly effected by crime? Percentagewise other EU cities, such as Amsterdam, have larger muslim populations, yet acid attacks aren't a thing there. Do you guys think it's the "quality" of immigrants the UK has, i.e. Pakistanis, Nigerians, that are the main issue?
And why were there more total homicides per year in the 1990s, despite a most-likely smaller muslim population and smaller overall population? And then the increase in recent years after a significant drop just doesn't make sense to me.

There is also speculation that there will be new post-Brexit trade agreements with the former colonies than will presumably lead to an influx of immigrants from those countries. Ironic, seeing as though immigration was also a pillar of the whole brexit movement.

Stats and stats :



https://fullfact.org/crime/crime-england-and-wales/

Quote:Crime has been falling since the mid-1990s according to the Crime Survey — as in many other developed countries. Police-recorded crimes also fell at that time, but then increased later in the 1990s, starting to fall again in the mid-2000s. In the last few years it has been rising again.

The 'dark figure' of unrecorded crime in England and Wales—indicated by the gap between the two measures—shrank from the mid-1990s as crime as reported in the survey fell.

From the 1980s to the mid-1990s the proportion of crime that victims in the Crime Survey said they’d reported to the police increased. Until the 1990s the recording rate (the proportion of reported crimes that ended up in police statistics) rose at roughly the same rate.

The result of these two trends was that the police statistics overstated the 1980s rate of increase in crime. More people were reporting crime to the police and the same proportion of those reports were actually recorded, but the total

crime people experienced was increasing at a slower rate.

So - a lot of the crime stats if you take in total values are faulty. In addition the UK/London especially has become extremely good at dealing with stab victims vs the 1990s - they are saving far more lives. You still have a fucked up spleen for the rest of your days, but you survived and the murder stats stay clean while in the 1990s you died.

Here more:


Seems like certain stats are progressing nicely.

I can find other data, but it's a pure satire now when I hear the German government tell us that crime is lower than it has been since 1992 in Germany when even compared to 10 years ago the likelihood of getting raped in Germany was low, but now countless women get raped and sometimes killed. This is frankly more the elite laughing at the sheeple - they state the overall crime numbers, but simply cut down on reporting the parking tickets as crimes - and voila - suddenly you are safer while your wife or daughter can never again walk out alone at night. They tell you it's safer nonetheless those lying bastards.

As for the UK and Netherlands - the quality of the immigrant and heritage is different. The Turks in Germany are likely the most positive if not really compatible or competitive on German terms long-term. The Dutch got a lot of North Africans - some with heavy Euro-admixture, many of them are pimps and drug dealers, weed shop owners in the Dutch sex and drug businesses. However - many of them similar to Belgium traveled to ISIS territories. Though fact is - different tribes have different results on crime. The Dutch Muslims have no issue getting laid, being pimps, looking more like swarthy Euro-mixed Arabs. The more inbred Pakistanis are another issue and no surprise that they resort rather to underage grooming gangs. Plus many legal brothels are a good safety valve for societies. I said it repeatedly - all the tests point out that legalized and controlled prostitution - with large cheap brothels - that this decreases rape tremendously. It certainly decreases underground rape dens as well - as the police and the corporate competition work hand in hand to shut the illegals down. It's easy to get legal sex in the Netherlands, but they are doing constant controls.

As for acid attacks - that is also cultural in certain areas - Bangladeshis, Afghanis, Pakistanis who like that kind of thing. It's also prevalent in some African areas. You don't see it that often in North Africa.

Post: #611

Unless you're seriously injured or need an insurance related crime number, hardly anyone bothers to report anything to the police any longer here.

We are aware that there's no point...plus you get the Spanish Inquisition yourself.

Ask any brit on the street and they will tell you that low level crime has just exploded over the last few years...mostly due to the fact we have hardly any police left after the continued govt cuts to the service.

Post: #612

I disagree - they have enough cops busy overseeing Facebook and severely punishing severe crimes like Muslims being slapped by a piece of bacon:





Just wear your stab-proof vests, what's the problem?

Post: #613

yawn

Post: #614

You can disagree all you like.

I live here. You don't.

Post: #615

So they cut down the police force by 20% in Britain? That to me is developing country levels of bad. Is the UK's economy really in such a bad state compared to even the likes of Italy or Greece that they can't pay police officers or is it mainly linked to the debt Brexit will create?

Post: #616

All those immigrants are costing tens of billions in extra benefits, extra council homes, extra NHS expenditure.

The Germans have admitted to spending 40 bio. $+ for the new enrichers.

Diversity isn't free - you gotta pay for the gang-rape and acid-attacks.

This is a case from Germany, but it's identical in Britain if not worse:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/09/germa...e-benefits

Quote:Germany: Muslim migrant who murdered cop allowed to live in Berlin with child support and other welfare benefits

Quote:Again, a blatant case of extremely generous treatment of a Muslim killer stirs the emotions. The man who 15 years ago shot the Berlin elite police officer Roland Krüger, whom everyone called only “Meatball,” is free again. Actually, Yassin Ali-K. was to be deported and given a six-year entry ban. But the clan member made a deal with the immigration office and can soon live in the capital alone and unmolested with 1263 euros child support. There are also all the other social benefits.

Even in custody, the 48-year-old policeman-killer was treated like a raw egg. The result: he fathered four more children in prison with his wife. He already had two — now there are six. In recent years, he enjoyed an open sentence; in April, he was finally released from custody. Then he — according to the deal — voluntarily left for his home country of Lebanon. A deportation was superfluous. But after a year, the court and Berlin immigration authorities assured him that he could come back to Berlin.

How can Europe survive without a cop-killer and his 6 children on welfare? It's pure logic - if there are less cops, then less cops can be killed by diversity, got it, bro?

The bro-logic reigns supreme.

Post: #617

Developing countries usually have massive police forces, which become corrupt as their number and power increases.

There's a very linear connection historically between how safe a country is an how few police officers there are.

Case in point, the nordic countries have the fewest police officers in Europe, but are also the safest. *Used to be the safest, because the invading ingrates would rather live in a low key perpetual war zone, than join a safe and prosperous society.

Post: #618

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ0ftoiIQxU

(Love Twisted Sister! This is my first post in the metal appreciation thread)

Post: #619

London/UK police confirms what we have been saying:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/09/uk-po...ad-threats

Quote:UK police too busy responding to offensive speech “crimes” online to tackle jihad threats

Quote:UK Police are too busy responding to trivial social media spats to tackle serious crime, the new head of the Police Federation has said, after years of forces encouraging “hate crime” reports for offensive comments.

Officers on the street still have a “desperation to do the job and very often they can’t because their hands are tied,” according to chairman John Apter who represents 120,000 rank-and-file officers.

He argued that the focus on new types of crime, including cyber and “hate offences,” can come at the expense of traditional police work. Both need addressing, he said, but not one at the expense of the other.

Mr Apter told The Sunday Telegraph: “Where we get drawn into local disagreements, the argument over the remote control, the dispute in the playground, the row on Facebook, it is frustrating.

“I think police time can be better spent and it makes a mockery when we are so stretched. You can’t treat society like that and you can’t treat the police as political footballs.

“We need to have a sensible debate with politicians, with society and with the public about exactly what they want their police to do.

“People join the police to keep people safe and to lock up bad people, not to sort out petty squabbles over a remote control.”

Police forces have been actively encouraging people to report “hate crimes” in recent years…..

Traitors like Sadiq Khan or even Theresa May call critics of Islam "as bad as ISIS", because obviously criticizing the ancient texts and the lack of morals preached by Islam, plus the subsequent logical acts - well that is as bad as beheading babies.

It is obviously not hate-speech when an Imam says "go and wage Jihad against the unbelievers and kill the Brits wherever you can find them." 2 weeks later in the Ariana Grande suicide bomber listened to his Imam. But it is hate-speech to tell you online what that Imam preaches.

I think Metokur is absolutely correct - you are all fucked there! The only solution involves guns - you can forget about anything else.

Post: #620

How Londoners could vote in a jihadist-sympathizing Paki midget as mayor is beyond me. It's a disgrace. The man should be stripped of his passport and air dropped in remote Waziristan.

Post: #621

(09-26-2018 10:45 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  How Londoners could vote in a jihadist-sympathizing Paki midget as mayor is beyond me. It's a disgrace. The man should be stripped of his passport and air dropped in remote Waziristan.

It's not too far from the truth to say that Londoners didn't vote him in. How many of those who voted for Khan are descendants of the men who fought at the Somme or who hit the beaches in Normandy on 6/6/44?

Post: #622

I dunno bro of all the expats I encounter here in VN, I'd say the English ones are the most cucked. There's exceptions but most are like an SJW cliche.

Post: #623

(09-23-2018 09:25 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  So they cut down the police force by 20% in Britain? That to me is developing country levels of bad. Is the UK's economy really in such a bad state compared to even the likes of Italy or Greece that they can't pay police officers or is it mainly linked to the debt Brexit will create?

Why do we want more police again? It`s not like they`re on our side!

Post: #624

(09-26-2018 12:47 PM)Nordwand Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 10:45 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  How Londoners could vote in a jihadist-sympathizing Paki midget as mayor is beyond me. It's a disgrace. The man should be stripped of his passport and air dropped in remote Waziristan.

It's not too far from the truth to say that Londoners didn't vote him in. How many of those who voted for Khan are descendants of the men who fought at the Somme or who hit the beaches in Normandy on 6/6/44?

London is majority non-White already and the counter-candidate was a Jewish guy named Goldsmith. Labor is utterly insane now, Muslims voted as a block and it was clear that countless votes had been falsified in their districts on top of that.

And even then - it wasn't as decisive as it could have been.

And many descendants of those old Brits are cucked as well even if they would be just 30%:



30% of the old stock plus all the immigrants - that is enough to vote in a Caliphate in Britain by 2090. Allahu Akbar.

Post: #625

(09-26-2018 02:12 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:47 PM)Nordwand Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 10:45 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  How Londoners could vote in a jihadist-sympathizing Paki midget as mayor is beyond me. It's a disgrace. The man should be stripped of his passport and air dropped in remote Waziristan.

It's not too far from the truth to say that Londoners didn't vote him in. How many of those who voted for Khan are descendants of the men who fought at the Somme or who hit the beaches in Normandy on 6/6/44?

30% of the old stock plus all the immigrants - [lthat is enough to vote in a Caliphate in Britain by 2090. Allahu Akbar.

I know you were being dramatic to make a point but that triggered me lol.