Post: #1

I checked out the models and a forecast. In addition to hitting the Carolinas, Florence it appears will stall out in the region. South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia could see up to four feet of rain. That is feet.. not inches.

The area has already had above normal rain this year. The floods would make the Irene floods in New England look paltry by comparison.

Post: #2

I hope it doesn't hit the philly region too hard. I heard my state would be getting hit directly and it was due to global warming. And of course this info was foolproof since it was from some metrologist according to the person. However when I look up the trajectory the main impact seems the Carolinas.

Post: #3

Hopefully the front (which is bringing a ton of rain to the Ohio Valley, Great Lakes, and now Mid-Atlantic) in the area now pushes off the coast far enough to steer the storm away, but we'll see.

Post: #4

So annoying how the media hypes these things nowadays.





I was in Jacksonville when it scored a direct hit there. It was mildly inconvenient due to a short power outage.

What really sucked, however, was trying to return to Miami and no gas stations had any gas because the media hyped up a mass hysteria.

Post: #5

(09-10-2018 09:55 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  So annoying how the media hypes these things nowadays.





I was in Jacksonville when it scored a direct hit there. It was mildly inconvenient due to a short power outage.

What really sucked, however, was trying to return to Miami and no gas stations had any gas because the media hyped up a mass hysteria.

What the hell, literally broadcasting and telling everyone they are going to die if the track changes 20 miles? How is that a responsible forecast?

Post: #6

(09-10-2018 09:48 AM)IveBeenFramed Wrote:  Hopefully the front (which is bringing a ton of rain to the Ohio Valley, Great Lakes, and now Mid-Atlantic) in the area now pushes off the coast far enough to steer the storm away, but we'll see.

Doesn't seem likely. Look at the high pressure system over the northeast. That'll probably keep it going west instead of going north and disappearing out over the ocean.

I have learned not to put much faith in the 15 different models they use to predict the storms path, though. The last 2 times I "evacuated" from an "almost certain" hurricane path, I went straight to where the storm actually hit, so, like you said, "we'll see."

(09-10-2018 11:25 AM)EvanWilson Wrote:  What the hell, literally broadcasting and telling everyone they are going to die if the track changes 20 miles? How is that a responsible forecast?

I've no idea, but that happened. I've never been particularly fond of that guy anyway, so it's kind of funny to look back and laugh at it. He made a complete fool of himself and screwed over a lot of people. Having lived most of my life on the east coast, that was a relatively mild hurricane that I drove straight into because of all the hype and failure of the track predicting models.

Post: #7

At least 13 people have died as Florence continues to churn over the Carolinas, mostly dumbasses:

A 41-year-old mother and her seven-month-old son were killed in Wilmington, North Carolina, when a tree fell on their home, officials said. The woman's husband was injured in the incident and taken to a nearby hospital, according to police.

A 78-year-old man in Kinston, North Carolina, was electrocuted when he tried to connect two extension cords outside in the rain, according to Lenoir County Emergency Services Director Roger Dail.

A 77-year-old man in Lenoir County, North Carolina, fell and died from "a cardiac event" while checking on dogs outside during the storm, officials said.

An 81-year-old man died in Wayne County when he [b]fell and struck his head while packing to evacuate[/b], officials said.

A 68-year-old man died when he was electrocuted while plugging in a generator in Lenoir County.

A husband and wife [b]died in a house fire[/b] in Cumberland County, officials said.

In South Carolina, a woman struck a tree while driving, officials said.

A couple also died in South Carolina from carbon monoxide poisoning from a generator being operated inside their home, officials said.

Meanwhile, the looting has begun . . .

Post: #8

There will still be a lot of repair bills, but It's not as bad as it would have been, because the hurricane weakened before landfall. If it had stayed as a category 3 or 4 as initially feared, the city of Wilmington would have looked like Puerto Rico after it was first hit last year. Thank God it wasn't as strong.

Post: #9

A dollar store must be the worst place to loot. They're risking jail over items that literally cost one dollar

Post: #10

(09-16-2018 06:56 AM)str8_thggn Wrote:  A dollar store must be the worst place to loot. They're risking jail over items that literally cost one dollar

Its Family Dollar, so not quite a 'Dollar' store - everything is just priced at round dollar amounts.

However, most everything there can be purchased with EBT and WIC, so...why bother?

Also, notice this Family Dollar is adjacent to a project, meaning its literally a local store serving that community. And they still fuck it over.

Post: #11

(09-10-2018 11:25 AM)EvanWilson Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 09:55 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  So annoying how the media hypes these things nowadays.





I was in Jacksonville when it scored a direct hit there. It was mildly inconvenient due to a short power outage.

What really sucked, however, was trying to return to Miami and no gas stations had any gas because the media hyped up a mass hysteria.

What the hell, literally broadcasting and telling everyone they are going to die if the track changes 20 miles? How is that a responsible forecast?

I see your point. But could it have been possible that his statements were directed at the "I'm not going anywhere!" dumbasses? Fine if they want to die but the problem is that rescue personnel are put in an unfortunate position of risking their lives to save shitheads with no common sense.

Post: #12

MEANWHILE:

The entire coast of South Carolina has been under a mandatory evacuation since Tuesday at 11:00 am.

While an estimated 1 MILLION people clogged up the only major interstate moving from the coast to the west after the the spaz-cuck governor declared a state of emergency (clearly 5 days way too early), mass hysteria ensued! Gasoline was completely siphoned from every gas station. Home Depot, Wal Mart, Lowes, and every grocery store were completely sold out of even the most nonsensical items in times of emergency, then shut down. The governor was reportedly quoted as, "I'm an idiot and not only am I invested in and receiving massive kickbacks from the aforementioned enterprises, I also chug semen." (Not sure where that reporting came from. I can't find the link)

After reversing all east-bound lanes of I-26 (good call, Bro), allowing it to flow only west, "once you leave your house--you can't come back" syndrome reportedly took place. This completely crippled the supporting highway systems leaving people stranded for absolutely no reason.

Price-gouging "shit-motel" owners have retired for the year, as a direct result of their charging $250/night for their nasty-ass roach motel $42/night rooms. Apparently, this phenomenon has cost the "evacuees" more than $1500 each. Men with families had to pay for 2-3 rooms inflating the cost to $3000-$4500, not to mention many, many hours in exhaustive traffic with all those annoying kids and their bitching wives who are in a total panic. Upon late-night Sunday return, having been in a crawling traffic but still having to be at work at 7:00am, the "evacuees" will discover that The Weather Channel is simply another shitty MSM network and means nothing, local news sucks, the major cable news networks are worthless, because the people that remained just chilled. Not even a power outage. No floods. No catastrophe. Nothing. 0. Not so much as a loss of internet.

They will surely feel like the gullible simps they are, and deeply regret this costly and despicable endeavor, and will, therefore, ignore all future weather reports.


After living in the southeast, they will learn to trust Waffle House--The only weather predicting service with a perfect record!

Post: #13

(09-16-2018 07:19 AM)Alpha_Romeo Wrote:  I see your point. But could it have been possible that his statements were directed at the "I'm not going anywhere!" dumbasses? Fine if they want to die but the problem is that rescue personnel are put in an unfortunate position of risking their lives to save shitheads with no common sense.

I'm not sure where you are from, but rescue personnel here are at an extreme minimum in these circumstances and don't have that obligation. Most of my friends work in "first responder" roles and it doesn't bother them a bit to stay in a danger zone when the evacuation has been ordered. They volunteer to stay.

What makes them invulnerable? If it was a "certain death" situation, wouldn't some of the emergency personnel be under an obligation to their families to leave as well?

The answer is: they will come rescue you in a boat. They will simply walk alongside the boat while taking you to "safety." It's absurd. If there is ankle-deep water, what rescue do you need?

If it were really a "definitely you're gonna die" situation, it'd be deadly for the rescuers, too. Right? Yes, but that's what rescuers do.

Are you a dick if you ignore a legitimate mandatory evacuation?--yes, you're kinda a dick. If you ignore a legitimate evacuation and call requesting rescue/emergency services, you're a super-dick, but some people don't have the ability to evacuate and they are for whom the rescuers stay.

I can think of a lot of shitty emergency calls I've gone on, but I've never said to myself, nor anyone, "I wish I wasn't on that call." Every first responder I know always says, "I wish I was on that call. I could've made a difference." No one thinks, "Oh, golly, this person stayed here in a hurricane, they deserve to suffer because I'm too chicken shit and i'm a first responder."


That's not even what I'm talking about..... What I'm saying is: the responses of risk-averse government officials and the SOOOOOO ULTRA-DRAMATIC media do a disservice to people. Is a person who is legitimately scared for their lives gonna stand in a DEADLY storm just to film their deaths while they tell you the wind speed?

Post: #14

I am currently located in Charlotte right now. All that we are experiencing is a lot of rain. We had some wind over the past two days, but nothing to worry about. This is about the sixth storm that I have experienced in the Carolinas(mostly in Raleigh, but one or two in Charlotte) in the past 20 years. Here is what happens every time.

1: The coast gets hit hard in that you may loose your beach house(Usually a secondary home and a passive rental income stream) if you are foolish enough to have one built on a sand dune or some other piece of land that is not on solid high ground. Please note that we are all paying for the disaster insurance courtesy of the federal government.

2: Those people who are foolish enough to have a primary home along the coast line either have to evacuate or hunker down and stay in doors. If you are in a low lying area, then you better have an inflatable raft or a second story home. Expect to clean up a lot after a storm like this as there will be trees down, and the power will be out for some time.

3: Everyone thinks that we will experience the next Hugo, which was a once in a life time storm so large that hurricane force winds were felt in Charlotte. I am in Charlotte now, and we are just getting rain and the wind gusted up to 35 MPH. No Big Deal. Yet, everyone empties the grocery stores of their bread and milk.(as if that will last during a time without any creature comforts) I had my apartment complex warning me to take stuff off of my patio, and giving me the Power Companies telephone. A little overboard once the storm was downgraded to a Cat 2.

4: Surprisingly, regardless of party affiliation, all governors in NC and SC take this situation seriously. Every storm that I went through had the National Guard already mobilized, and ready to provide security and rescue once the storm lets up enough to start working. Say what you want about the Billy and Frank Graham, but their organizations are already in Raleigh with trucks full of food, water and anything else that is needed. This is just one of many volunteer organizations that have already deployed aid and resources. I am sure that the Red Cross is in Raleigh parked at the airport as well. All of these organizations should have coordinated with the Governor's office last week. This is normal disaster recovery protocol here in the Carolinas. The shit storm that was Katrina does not happen here due to those fact alone.

5: As stated before you will always have dipshits during this time who do stupid shit. If the are looting a residence, it is at their own risk. This is a gun friendly part of the country.

The dirty little secret is that only the coast line is populated along the Carolina's. Up to thirty miles inland is for the most part swampland or farmland.(i.e. sparsely populated) The only major cities of Wilmington, Myrtle Beach and Charleston are really it. Once the coastline is evacuated, than the hurricane goes through a lot of swampland and farm land before you hit more major cities. Most importantly unless the eye is still at sea the hurricane will lose its power quickly. Officially we are now at a tropical depression, which makes it a rain storm with gale force winds.

Yes you will have flooding, yes you will have rain and wind damage inland, yes you will have trees down, yes the power is out along the coastline, and yes some buildings that are not ready for hurricanes will be destroyed. My estimate is that it wont be as bad as everyone thinks. As long as you have a solidly built home with good flood insurance inland you should be fine.

My advise to anyone on the coast in a Hurricane is the same as I heard from a relative 30 years ago who lived along the coast line. Secure your car to a telephone pole or some other large structure so that it wont become a projectile. Don't go to the store for anything like Bread and Milk, freeze everything ahead of time. Throw a party in a closet or a interior room. Obviously some game opportunities here.

I went to a movie last night with some friends and just stayed in doors throughout the day yesterday. I plan on going to the grocery store and going to Sunday night dinner with the family, like I always do. The coast line will have some cleanup for a while, but guess what, everyone will be going back to work here in Charlotte, Raleigh, and Columbia on Monday.

We will be fine.

Post: #15

(09-16-2018 07:39 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  MEANWHILE:

The entire coast of South Carolina has been under a mandatory evacuation since Tuesday at 11:00 am.

While an estimated 1 MILLION people clogged up the only major interstate moving from the coast to the west after the the spaz-cuck governor declared a state of emergency (clearly 5 days way too early), mass hysteria ensued! Gasoline was completely siphoned from every gas station. Home Depot, Wal Mart, Lowes, and every grocery store were completely sold out of even the most nonsensical items in times of emergency, then shut down. The governor was reportedly quoted as, "I'm an idiot and not only am I invested in and receiving massive kickbacks from the aforementioned enterprises, I also chug semen." (Not sure where that reporting came from. I can't find the link)

After reversing all east-bound lanes of I-26 (good call, Bro), allowing it to flow only west, "once you leave your house--you can't come back" syndrome reportedly took place. This completely crippled the supporting highway systems leaving people stranded for absolutely no reason.

Price-gouging "shit-motel" owners have retired for the year, as a direct result of their charging $250/night for their nasty-ass roach motel $42/night rooms. Apparently, this phenomenon has cost the "evacuees" more than $1500 each. Men with families had to pay for 2-3 rooms inflating the cost to $3000-$4500, not to mention many, many hours in exhaustive traffic with all those annoying kids and their bitching wives who are in a total panic. Upon late-night Sunday return, having been in a crawling traffic but still having to be at work at 7:00am, the "evacuees" will discover that The Weather Channel is simply another shitty MSM network and means nothing, local news sucks, the major cable news networks are worthless, because the people that remained just chilled. Not even a power outage. No floods. No catastrophe. Nothing. 0. Not so much as a loss of internet.

They will surely feel like the gullible simps they are, and deeply regret this costly and despicable endeavor, and will, therefore, ignore all future weather reports.


After living in the southeast, they will learn to trust Waffle House--The only weather predicting service with a perfect record!

I agree with you completely pertaining with the media. They have a tendency to fear monger when anything like this happens. This is basically what local reporters live for. If it gets them national coverage than it feeds their narcissism.

Concerning the Governor, it does not seem extreme to me to declare a state of emergency three days prior to an event like this. It allows for them to get the National Guard called up and deployed to help when the storm lifts. That is a normal lead time that they use here, even before Katrina. The media causing mass hysteria by saying that an emergency is declared is where the problem is.

As far as mandatory evacuations, they are rarely enforced at the point of a gun. It is a more of a threat that the first responders will not be able to get to you if you are injured, and the city wont be able to provide services. Likewise with a curfew to avoid looting. If they did force evacuations of anyone I would like to see video footage of it. You always see idiots who need rescuing in storms like this. If there was a "Mandatory" evacuation than what were they doing there to begin with? Likewise if I was staying at a place like Hilton Head, I would stay put and not evacuate the coast.

As far as the roads. I can see closing eastbound traffic on I-20. That goes from Columbia to Florence, SC, which makes sense to have it as an evacuation route as the eye traveled parallel along that road. Closing I-26 eastbound makes less sense especially anything west of I-95. Anything east of I-95 is lowlands and subject to get more storm damage than anything west. Usually any road closures of this matter would be 48 hours prior, i.e. Wednesday for this storm, and situational depending on where the storm is going. If he did close the roads all the way up to Columbia on Tuesday, than you are right that is being overly cautious.

One million people don't live along the coastline of South Carolina. Charleston has about 160K and Myrtle has 30K in actual residents. A significant part of people there fall under tourists, which meant that they choose to travel to SC during hurricane season. Honestly, I doubt that the million number is true, but I would estimate that 300,000 are actually tourists on the low end. In situations like this, they are not fleeing to go to a hotel, they are just as likely traveling home.

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Post: #17

(09-16-2018 02:33 PM)Bluto Wrote:  I agree with you completely pertaining with the media. They have a tendency to fear monger when anything like this happens. This is basically what local reporters live for. If it gets them national coverage than it feeds their narcissism.
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Absolutely...

The "million" number was what was quoted on the news--probably grossly exaggerated, as per standard. But, you were more correct in your earlier post when you said that most of the people in the Carolinas live on the coast. So the entire coast of SC is more than just Charleston and Myrtle Beach. And, it is in peak tourist season, probably where the "one million" came from.

Anywho... I wrote mandatory evacuation in italics, because everyone knows it's not mandatory whatsoever and completely unenforceable. It's just a clever use of words, as you pointed out, that means there's a good chance you won't have any emergency responders, so you may need to leave.

We're pretty much saying the same things, except I do blame the governor and think he just fucked over the state because he head-shot his credibility. A better thing to have said is, "Tourists go home and residents prepare to protect your property." And, he did it waaaay too early. Even the most conservative storm model didn't have the storm hitting the coast until late Friday night/early Saturday morning. He declared the evacuation on Tuesday morning. Then the storm didn't even strike--had he waited until Thursday, people could've just as easily left if they wanted to, but it was clear the storm wasn't going to hit SC by then. He shut down the whole state for nothing.

In regard to the reversals, it was very ignorant. He reversed all eastbound lanes of I-26 all the way to I-77 in Colombia. Some of the people that crowded the interstate eventually became stranded in place and could not return home without breaking out the GPS and starting a "fuck me I don't even know if the gas stations have gas" journey through an unfamiliar area, which was also clogged like crazy. Basically, once you got on I-26, you were stuck there.

Some of those poor residents of NC who actually did get hit by the storm and have been without electricity since Thursday, those who received the only severe flooding, could have easily evacuated to Charleston and been living in perfect comfort if the place wasn't shut down by the governor. I think it's very haphazard behavior by government officials and just straight up fraud on part of the "news" stations.

I was on one of the barrier islands off Charleston when Hugo hit. The place looked like Hiroshima.. Some people didn't have electricity for 3 months.

Direct hit. Category 5.












You know how many people died? 61

They were mostly old people who were dependent on life support, i.e., in hospice care and had extended power outages.


This little thunderstorm was absolutely nothing like Hugo.


The only thing that has changed is the pussification of the general public and how easily the media can spread mass hysteria.

Post: #18

Hugo was strong but its rare for Hurricanes to come this far north and back then - a generation ago - Charleston's building codes weren't as rigid.

People freaked out about this one because it had the potential to drop a lot of rain like Harvey did on Houston. Harvey was very damaging because Houston floods every couple of years - you don't need a once in a generation storm to flood houston. Florence did drop 30 inches on a few towns, but mostly places you never heard of and which are probably sparsely populated.

Post: #19

The take away lessons from this is to have supplies at hand and dont live on a flood plain.

I was watching the news and reading stories and the sheer volume of people on the move just brought things to a standstill and like a preppers wet dream most of them needed immediate food, water and medical assistance.

How can you fuck that up so badly where you rely on the stretched authorities and wait in line for upwards of an hour or more to get basic supplies? There are hundreds of places to shop for food, water and containers to carry water etc before this thing comes near.

If something truly catastrophic were to happen across multiple states, the entire US or the world you can kiss millions of asses goodbye just off of these factors alone. If I had a family and I was exposed like that I'd need to take a good long hard look at myself and feel ashamed. God knows what would happen inside a week or more with no outside help and looting/riots taking place.

Post: #20

At least 18 people have died in storm-related incidents, including a man and a woman in Horry County who died from carbon monoxide poisoning. About 740,000 homes and businesses are still without power in North and South Carolina. Florence is causing flash flooding and major river flooding over a "significant portion" of North and South Carolin.
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Post: #21

(09-16-2018 09:04 PM)ryand Wrote:  At least 18 people have died in storm-related incidents, including a man and a woman in Horry County who died from carbon monoxide poisoning.
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If you look into them, they are only very tangentially hurricane related. Some jackasses died in a house fire. A woman died when she drove her car into a tree. An old guy was checking on his dogs and had a heart attack. An old guy slippped and fell while packing his car. Two people got electrocuted doing electric shit in the rain.

Don't get me wrong, its a big storm and there is an impact and lots of flooding, but hardly armageddon.

Post: #22

(09-16-2018 09:04 PM)ryand Wrote:  At least 18 people have died in storm-related incidents, including a man and a woman in Horry County who died from carbon monoxide poisoning. About 740,000 homes and businesses are still without power in North and South Carolina. Florence is causing flash flooding and major river flooding over a "significant portion" of North and South Carolin.
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Most of those people could be up for Darwin awards. Read Hypno's post above about the casualties of the storm.

Post: #23

The love from the Left...

Post: #24

(09-16-2018 05:16 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  The take away lessons from this is to have supplies at hand and dont live on a flood plain.

I was watching the news and reading stories and the sheer volume of people on the move just brought things to a standstill and like a preppers wet dream most of them needed immediate food, water and medical assistance.

How can you fuck that up so badly where you rely on the stretched authorities and wait in line for upwards of an hour or more to get basic supplies? There are hundreds of places to shop for food, water and containers to carry water etc before this thing comes near.

If something truly catastrophic were to happen across multiple states, the entire US or the world you can kiss millions of asses goodbye just off of these factors alone. If I had a family and I was exposed like that I'd need to take a good long hard look at myself and feel ashamed. God knows what would happen inside a week or more with no outside help and looting/riots taking place.

The reality is that in this day and age we can all be cast back to pre-electricity times in the blink of an eye, either by the sun or an act or war/sabotage.

I will never understand people who choose to live in flood-prone areas, but epic level shitstorms come in many shapes and sizes and nobody is safe from them no matter where they live. Everyone should have at least a months supply of food, water, medicine, and the guns required to protect it all. That is something virtually everyone is capable of committing to and it's cheap insurance in this day and age.

Post: #25

They're still not going to back down though.

Remember both that they were positioning this as a huge event that would damage Trump and the prime rule that "leftists always double down".

That's exactly what they're doing. Rather than admit it wasn't a world ending disaster they're going to try their damned hardest to convince everyone it actually was..... because they have too much hype invested in that narrative to back down now.