Post: #1

Sitting here at Starbucks I've just been witness to a rather incongruous example of game. A couple highly attractive girls looking to be in their early 20s came in, and an obese, shabbily dressed, balding middle eastern guy in his 40s with a nose like Raymond Luxury Yacht immediately approached and worked day game for what had to be a good ten minutes.

I've got to give him credit for approaching, but man there was just no way in hell any amount of game could overcome that kind of a bad starting position. The girls seemed to be too polite to tell him to fuck off, which I suppose is what kept him pressing the conversation despite their expressions, which I would describe as "politely nodding until he goes away". I suppose this goes against the confidence-boosting mantras for noobies telling them to just go for it, but imo there's a certain point where going to the gym is going to be more effective than learning game.

Post: #2

(03-21-2012 07:21 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  Sitting here at Starbucks I've just been witness to a rather incongruous example of game. A couple highly attractive girls looking to be in their early 20s came in, and an obese, shabbily dressed, balding middle eastern guy in his 40s with a nose like Raymond Luxury Yacht immediately approached and worked day game for what had to be a good ten minutes.

I've got to give him credit for approaching, but man there was just no way in hell any amount of game could overcome that kind of a bad starting position. The girls seemed to be too polite to tell him to fuck off, which I suppose is what kept him pressing the conversation despite their expressions, which I would describe as "politely nodding until he goes away". I suppose this goes against the confidence-boosting mantras for noobies telling them to just go for it, but imo there's a certain point where going to the gym is going to be more effective than learning game.

perceived value = (your total value*) X (game/ability to demonstrate value)

*total value can be negative, one can be a waste of space.

Post: #3

(03-21-2012 08:17 PM)johnwu Wrote:  perceived value = (your total value*) X (game/ability to demonstrate value)

*total value can be negative, one can be a waste of space.

Hmm, but then a person who is a burden on society would look worse by employing game effectively. I'd say it's more like this:

perception of value = (bragging effectiveness coefficient)*(true value + lying) + (game)

Post: #4

well I saw another middle eastern guy in his 50s dressed like a bum, staring at girls whole time. he came out to smoke and told me
'American women, they are hard to understand' This was hilarious and pathetic at the same time.
What's the chance of 50 year old getting laid with girls in 20s unless he pays them?

By looking at this guy, I know there are tons of guys who blames on something.
From the beginning, there was no chance you could get a girl like that. so just forget it and move on.

Post: #5

(03-23-2012 07:39 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  well I saw another middle eastern guy in his 50s dressed like a bum, staring at girls whole time. he came out to smoke and told me
'American women, they are hard to understand' This was hilarious and pathetic at the same time.
What's the chance of 50 year old getting laid with girls in 20s unless he pays them?

By looking at this guy, I know there are tons of guys who blames on something.
From the beginning, there was no chance you could get a girl like that. so just forget it and move on.

in large parts of the world not as crazy as you would think, in America short of money, power, or some kind of valued asset ( ie creative gift like artist, musician, writer etc) its a little tougher to pull off but dont write off the 50 year olds a lot of them have more game than us. They may not make the pussy tingle from sight but I had a guy who works for me this guys traveled everywhere seemingly and can spit stories all day long, girls just sit in awe around him but hes not attempting to close he just likes to shoot the shit, if he used his powers for evil he could be deadly.