Post: #76

So all this talk about social media and instagram I need to ask the question:

From my experience you need a niche or topic for your gram (i.e. world traveller) in order to gain a following.

What kinds of niches are attainable and demonstrates a high SMV to girls while also captivating people to follow you easily?

I have a niche that I have an edge on and could easily develop on Instagram to build followers but I don't believe its going to captivate women (its not a real high value look for black guys IMO) or maybe it doesnt matter as long as I have 10,000+ followers or more?

Maybe some of you guys could give me some insight.

Post: #77

(07-19-2018 09:08 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  So all this talk about social media and instagram I need to ask the question:

From my experience you need a niche or topic for your gram (i.e. world traveller) in order to gain a following.

What kinds of niches are attainable and demonstrates a high SMV to girls while also captivating people to follow you easily?

I have a niche that I have an edge on and could easily develop on Instagram to build followers but I don't believe its going to captivate women (its not a real high value look for black guys IMO) or maybe it doesnt matter as long as I have 10,000+ followers or more?

Maybe some of you guys could give me some insight.

Responded in instagram thread:

/thread-66379...pid1822224

Post: #78

(07-18-2018 01:56 PM)Graft Wrote:  I don't mean to lecture, because only recently has all of this has started to make sense to me. The last girl I cared about left me for a less valuable but more popular guy. I've gotten curved hundreds of times since. "Where are your friends?" "What is your facebook?" "Your IG/Tinder/Bumble looks like you have no friends!"

Why do you care what some vapid women want, demand, and value? It's white knighting in disguise. You guys need to begin to understand that conforming to females' demand for man's social presence you are no different from the soyboys trying to get into female's panties by being nice. Different in form but the same in content. Stop kidding yourself you're above all that. This is the way of the following, not leading. *

* Specifically, the following, reality and thought control that has been designed, engineered, implemented, shaped and profited from by one mr M. Zuckerberg. He's the real king in this realm rolling in billions and billions of usd.

Post: #79

Amazing posts in here from some of the nightgame veterans.
I want to quickly touch up one on point, because I have exchanged instagram accounts with a few different guys on this forum and they are ALL guilty of this one thing: having fake "likes" and fake "followers" from Asia or some other third world country. It's painfully obvious to everyone that these likes and followers were gained through an app, not organically. You know, through like actual friends.
And some of these guys are really cool dudes, but that shit makes them look like absolute losers.

Having few friends and being a lone-wolf isn't ideal, but it can be salvageable by having other high-SMV qualities to make up for it. But if you have to get fake likes on instagram to hide the fact you are a lone-wolf, then all respect kinda goes out the window.
The other poster was also spot-on about another thing: instagram pages filled only with solo travelling photos. We get it dude, you travel, you're an adventurous cat. But it looks like you don't have any friends which ping's off a girls loser-detector. If you want to have a good instagram you HAVE TO have a good social circle. You have to be an extroverted outgoing guy and you HAVE TO be "cool" by societies current standard.
You can still be Mr. Lone Wolf Alpha Male, but that means you don't even have an instagram account cause you don't care for that shit. You will be running a different style of game. Being Mr. Lone Wolf Alpha Male will also be tougher and tougher these days as social media takes a stronger grip on our lives.

Also, I'm not calling out any specific user with these comments, it's just something I have seen with literally every single person I met off here that I have on instagram.

I think my instagram is pretty well on lock. All my tinder matches that I actually talk to end up following me on there. Selfies of me getting 120-160 likes and it's all from local girls that I actually know (woah, crazy shocker eh??) and my bros in my circles.
Message me privately and I'll give you my username. We can even follow each other. But only if you are a member with at least 5 or more reps or you have posted some meaningful stuff in this thread.

Post: #80

(07-20-2018 08:44 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(07-18-2018 01:56 PM)Graft Wrote:  I don't mean to lecture, because only recently has all of this has started to make sense to me. The last girl I cared about left me for a less valuable but more popular guy. I've gotten curved hundreds of times since. "Where are your friends?" "What is your facebook?" "Your IG/Tinder/Bumble looks like you have no friends!"

Why do you care what some vapid women want, demand, and value? It's white knighting in disguise. You guys need to begin to understand that conforming to females' demand for man's social presence you are no different from the soyboys trying to get into female's panties by being nice. Different in form but the same in content. Stop kidding yourself you're above all that. This is the way of the following, not leading. *

* Specifically, the following, reality and thought control that has been designed, engineered, implemented, shaped and profited from by one mr M. Zuckerberg. He's the real king in this realm rolling in billions and billions of usd.

Ok Mr. Alpha, believe me, I wish I could just use that pimp hand of mine and get 20 year old bitches on a fucking/cleaning rotation tomorrow, but we are all on this forum to perform like dancing little monkeys in order to get into a woman's pants.

I agree with some of your post, but I'm not white knighting, or being nice to supplicate. I'm being a cocky douche that shows off how good looking, fun, and rich I am on instagram. If I'm getting curved for missing a puzzle piece to my game, I'm going to work to improve it.

On similar thought, with social media, if you can walk the walk, social media should be pretty easy for you. The only change I had to make was to buy a newer iPhone with a better camera and start taking pictures of my life. That's it. If that gets me 5+ bangs a year I'll gladly do it, it's really not that embarrassing.

I get the feeling most of this forum is 25+ in age, guys who are younger understand this automatically.

Post: #81

(07-20-2018 07:28 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  Amazing posts in here from some of the nightgame veterans.
I want to quickly touch up one on point, because I have exchanged instagram accounts with a few different guys on this forum and they are ALL guilty of this one thing: having fake "likes" and fake "followers" from Asia or some other third world country. It's painfully obvious to everyone that these likes and followers were gained through an app, not organically. You know, through like actual friends.
And some of these guys are really cool dudes, but that shit makes them look like absolute losers.

Having few friends and being a lone-wolf isn't ideal, but it can be salvageable by having other high-SMV qualities to make up for it. But if you have to get fake likes on instagram to hide the fact you are a lone-wolf, then all respect kinda goes out the window.
The other poster was also spot-on about another thing: instagram pages filled only with solo travelling photos. We get it dude, you travel, you're an adventurous cat. But it looks like you don't have any friends which ping's off a girls loser-detector. If you want to have a good instagram you HAVE TO have a good social circle. You have to be an extroverted outgoing guy and you HAVE TO be "cool" by societies current standard.
You can still be Mr. Lone Wolf Alpha Male, but that means you don't even have an instagram account cause you don't care for that shit. You will be running a different style of game. Being Mr. Lone Wolf Alpha Male will also be tougher and tougher these days as social media takes a stronger grip on our lives.

Also, I'm not calling out any specific user with these comments, it's just something I have seen with literally every single person I met off here that I have on instagram.

I think my instagram is pretty well on lock. All my tinder matches that I actually talk to end up following me on there. Selfies of me getting 120-160 likes and it's all from local girls that I actually know (woah, crazy shocker eh??) and my bros in my circles.
Message me privately and I'll give you my username. We can even follow each other. But only if you are a member with at least 5 or more reps or you have posted some meaningful stuff in this thread.

One more thing-it's fine to have fake followers to take you from 500-1000, or 50 likes to 75 or so because every public profile has randoms liking the picture. But when you have 10k followers for a normal IG, it will set off radars for women.

Ideal for me is between 1-3k tops, keeps me a normal guy, but popular. I've been trying organic growth.

Post: #82

Kirdiesel:

I am finding from my own experience that a lot of hot girls like a genuine Instagram account. The accounts with 10k followers but only 200 likes per pic are laughed at and seen as fake as opposed to an account with just 2k followers and 500 likes per pic.

What I am finding is that the kids who got a head start on Instagram were the ones who were popular in their teens and college years, after that it seemed to stop. I am trying to find ways around this myself and other posters have shared insights on my thread here.

/thread-68756.html

Graft:

Can you elaborate more on what you mean by organic growth?

Post: #83

My Instagram is guilty of having some poor followers picked up from apps I gave iTunes reviews for and Vinny’s program.

Instagress was the best for gaining good followers. I befriended a lot of overseas people this way.

AFAIK Instagram algorithm wants more engagement and the follow and unfollow routine is on its way out.

Post: #84

Relevant.

Australian woman 34 divorces, gets back onto the carousel, 30 tinder dates per month.

Hamster rationale: Revenge to “fuckboys”.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/680659...n-at-once/

How many matches would a typical younger man than her get a month?

Post: #85

(07-17-2018 12:45 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  Social media is vital to hot girls in the 18-22 demographic.
Sure, the loser girls that had no friends in high school probably don't care how many instagram followers you have, but we aren't learning game to fuck those girls. We want the hot, cream of the crop, top of the social ladder hotties. And those girls will definitely care about your social media presence.

Like it or not. Guys on here want to argue cause it's an uncomfortable truth and most of you guys probably have a shitty instagram page. And I don't blame you. It's not really a masculine endeavour so we don't really enjoy spending time on our social media image the same way girls naturally do. But you have to adapt or die. You can fight tooth and nail and keep arguing, but to the young hot popular girls, you're just a weirdo unless you have some social media clout to back your shit up.
Obviously this doesn't apply to girls over 25. And most of the members here are older cats so I can understand the confusion.

I don't think this is entirely accurate. None of the best 'naturals' I know even use facebook, let alone instagram. It's almost a USP in my opinion. Like not having tattoos nowadays. I'm speaking about men in their 30s here (who date significantly younger women - my mate is in a serious relationship with a 23 year old), it might be different if you're 21 or whatever. If you have a really interesting life, I'm sure there's upsides to having a strong social media profile, but I just don't think it's a prerequisite. I also think the bubble might burst, as another poster alluded to, as it becomes trendy to be 'off the grid' in one way or another.

Post: #86

(07-22-2018 07:17 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(07-17-2018 12:45 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  Social media is vital to hot girls in the 18-22 demographic.
Sure, the loser girls that had no friends in high school probably don't care how many instagram followers you have, but we aren't learning game to fuck those girls. We want the hot, cream of the crop, top of the social ladder hotties. And those girls will definitely care about your social media presence.

Like it or not. Guys on here want to argue cause it's an uncomfortable truth and most of you guys probably have a shitty instagram page. And I don't blame you. It's not really a masculine endeavour so we don't really enjoy spending time on our social media image the same way girls naturally do. But you have to adapt or die. You can fight tooth and nail and keep arguing, but to the young hot popular girls, you're just a weirdo unless you have some social media clout to back your shit up.
Obviously this doesn't apply to girls over 25. And most of the members here are older cats so I can understand the confusion.

I don't think this is entirely accurate. None of the best 'naturals' I know even use facebook, let alone instagram. It's almost a USP in my opinion. Like not having tattoos nowadays. I'm speaking about men in their 30s here (who date significantly younger women - my mate is in a serious relationship with a 23 year old), it might be different if you're 21 or whatever. If you have a really interesting life, I'm sure there's upsides to having a strong social media profile, but I just don't think it's a prerequisite. I also think the bubble might burst, as another poster alluded to, as it becomes trendy to be 'off the grid' in one way or another.

I am always suspicious of posts about these sorts of situations.

Now you are in Europe so I do think that it might not be as flashy of a culture as we are used to here in America so I don't doubt any of what you have said. While that might be the case, I do think it is important to probe a bit into this situation.

If the girl is foreign/non-Anglo (or not used to Anglo culture) then I could definitely see this being the case.

If your friend is exceptional in many ways (good looks, nice job, money, etc.) then I can see this being true.

If the girl is poor or doesn't fit in well with her age group, then it matters little.

My point being, older guys succeeding with younger women are doing so in spite of a lack of social media. The truth is hard to deny that followers and lots of people liking your stuff is generally DHV to women. I am not saying it is right or noble or anything, I am saying that is what it is.

Post: #87

^ The friend who's with a 23 year old isn't particularly exceptional, both he and the girl are both just working class so don't give a fuck about middle class media nonsense about 'age appropriateness' and what not. Britain and America are actually — as I've learned via this forum, the media, and working with Americans — incredibly different cultures that happen to share a language. There's much less of a puritanism regarding age differences for example, as I've pointed out in this post. Though I have no doubt if you're in your early 20s/late teens, it's a DHV to have a good instagram profile wherever country you're based.

Post: #88

I also use Tinder as my main source of introductions. I have had a different experience than most guys on the forum, it seems. Not sure why that is. I'm not an approach machine by any means, but I have laid some very attractive girls from the "normal" means - pulling in bars, clubs, dancefloor game, social circle, house parties... even a few that I met during the day, although daygame is something I'm really inexperienced at.

Tinder is absolutely a numbers game. I totally agree with the common criticisms that it allows women to window shop and that your average pull is going to be lower quality than what you would get through other means. But, in my experience, the easiness of introductions balances out those negatives. It is also just not the case that quality is going to be lower everywhere, or for every man. I have met and slept with some very attractive girls through Tinder. I've been catfished by fatties or just average girls, too, but... so what? The more girls you match and start conversations with, the more chances you have to meet a good looking one you click with. It is also much easier to filter out time wasters on this app IMO than it usually is, once you know what signs to look for.

In the past five weeks, I've gotten five new notches from Tinder. Four of those girls were attractive. Two I would consider stunners. The odd one out was a pudge ball and not anywhere near as cute as her pictures, but she was still fun to drink a few beers with on the river side and poke with my meat katana. I have almost 700 matches from my past year on the app (I installed it around September of last year, when I became single after an LTR). In the last city I was in, my average quality was lower, but I still met with and banged some very cute girls and some were even good company to spend time with when we weren't having sex.

Guys who get frustrated with online dating in general, but Tinder specifically due to how superficial it is, probably think this is bullshit or wonder how is this possible. I do not have a good answer to why I have been successful on Tinder. I am decent looking but nothing special. I am medium-tall but not a giant. I do have some interesting pictures from travel and practicing combat sports. My approach with texting is pretty simple, and there is no complicated theory guiding the messages I send: "heyyy, what's up, big plans this weekend? you have whatsapp?"

There are a few things I have found help me on there:

1. A lot of girls install Tinder right after breaking up with their boyfriends. They don't know exactly what they want - adventure, sex, just to make the pain of the breakup go away - but these are the girls to go for. Their expectations and shields are going to be lower. They're also going to be (relatively) new to the app, and will likely have fewer pump and dumps to sour them on meeting a stranger for a casual hook up. If you can learn how to tell these girls apart from the ones who use it as an online dating service - IE are looking for a boyfriend - or the girls who just use it to attention-whore, your success will be much higher. Most of the girls I have had sex with off Tinder in the past year have fallen into this category.

2. Girls do not want to feel cheap, and so it is always a best practice to ask them out for drinks and at least pretend to be a gentleman during the the texting phase instead of asking them to straight up come over. If she wants to get dicked down that bad without all the conversation and foreplay, she will tell you. If she wants to have a dirty suggestive text marathon, she will initiate it. Otherwise, play it conservative. It is extremely easy to miss the cocky-funny mark over text when you've never met the person before, and simply come off as a creep or an arrogant asshole. In a night club, that will work in many places. But on an app where she literally has hundreds of good looking men at her fingertips, you have to play to win the hearts and minds. You should plan on at least one date and four hour conversation before trying to take her home. Even the girls who want to find someone for casual sex and aren't looking for a husband may take two or three dates. I like Tom Torero's "What to do on a date" as it is pretty much perfectly designed for a Tinder date: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEptbIHCfP0

3. Not all countries are equal. Of course it's going to be harder in countries and cities where competition is higher and the women are more spoiled. The U.S., Canada, U.K., Germany... these are low rate of return places. I've had more success in five weeks in Poland, where I am currently, than I had in five months in Germany. But, so it goes.

Cheers guys and good luck!

Post: #89

I do find the younger 18-22 demographic being suspicious of me when I say I don't have facebook. I tell them I prefer to communicate in real life. If this is a day game approach, I'm not sure but I think their perception of my value and trust in me may actually go down compared to a situation where I had a strong virtual presence. The irony of it all is that with a smooth approach and good social skills that very few men perform nowadays in a day game cold approach, you are displaying your social savvy right in front of her eyes, but when the "FB / IG Check" comes along, she may perceive the approaching random girls in the day as the act of a desperate man who has no friends. Compare this to having FB, a social circle on FB, pictures of your life, and comments from friends, it adds a sense of "normalcy" for the younger generation, because they are all doing the same thing. FB profiles are almost all the same: main profile picture of some highlight of life e.g. wedding, child, profession, identity, and other pictures of friends, family, travel, but nothing about the majority banal life that is in between that. For example girls I knew from highschool have children and post pics proudly, often taken professionally, but they don't show the baby screaming in the middle of the night, no makeup pics, or the baby shitting itself and shit everywhere. In the young generation there is far less mention of the banality of studying, more pictures of partying or funny antics. Girls of this demographic want to see that you are "normal". Because they can detect discrepancy as follows: charming, good looking guy approaches me smoothly and confidently, makes me nervous, I'm attracted, what, he doesn't have any social media? He might still be an awesome guy but I can't risk it, because he could be a total weirdo with no friends so that's why he's approaching random people on the streets like a beggar.

Post: #90

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(07-24-2018 05:05 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:  I do find the younger 18-22 demographic being suspicious of me when I say I don't have facebook. I tell them I prefer to communicate in real life. If this is a day game approach, I'm not sure but I think their perception of my value and trust in me may actually go down compared to a situation where I had a strong virtual presence. The irony of it all is that with a smooth approach and good social skills that very few men perform nowadays in a day game cold approach, you are displaying your social savvy right in front of her eyes, but when the "FB / IG Check" comes along, she may perceive the approaching random girls in the day as the act of a desperate man who has no friends. Compare this to having FB, a social circle on FB, pictures of your life, and comments from friends, it adds a sense of "normalcy" for the younger generation, because they are all doing the same thing. FB profiles are almost all the same: main profile picture of some highlight of life e.g. wedding, child, profession, identity, and other pictures of friends, family, travel, but nothing about the majority banal life that is in between that. For example girls I knew from highschool have children and post pics proudly, often taken professionally, but they don't show the baby screaming in the middle of the night, no makeup pics, or the baby shitting itself and shit everywhere. In the young generation there is far less mention of the banality of studying, more pictures of partying or funny antics. Girls of this demographic want to see that you are "normal". Because they can detect discrepancy as follows: charming, good looking guy approaches me smoothly and confidently, makes me nervous, I'm attracted, what, he doesn't have any social media? He might still be an awesome guy but I can't risk it, because he could be a total weirdo with no friends so that's why he's approaching random people on the streets like a beggar.

Skank Hunt, I think you're too harsh on the daygamer's credo, which may, implicitly, induce self-sabotaging thoughts and actions. You should absolutely not care what a girl thinks of you as long as you know you're leading a good life. The core of the inner game should be an unshakeable confidence (admittedly, achieved trough living a good live, broadly understood) without pandering to the whims of females. Let's have an example - today, every time I go to the gym I see more and more men who act like girls - they don't want to be strong but just look big - they shave their chests off, wear vests exposing muscles and trendy tatoos, and every other second look in a mirror to self-admire their pump and fresh haircuts. They don't even realise they've sold off their masculinity and, inside, are becoming like women obsessed with their looks. I'm guilty to a certain extent of that too but try to keep it in check as much as I can to avoid the attitude that a male's looks is the only commodity in play.

Such is social media angle. It's looks plus popularity. Facebook and Instagram drive it to insane levels, where people post pictures making up life which is not there. A carefully curated social media profile is, almost always a Potemkin Village. A truly successful person wouldn't have time to spend hours each day on that stuff because they have to take care of important stuff.

Us, humans, are social creatures who, because of a need to survive in harsh environment, benefited from exhibiting conformist behaviours. Young girls are especially prone to that and follow (for evolutionary reasons, too, but this for another debate) "majority rule" like little lemmings. It is very clearly noticeable with their coiffures and outfits - whatever the mainstream or counter-mainstream fashion creates any given season, we can see females adopting such coiffures and outfits in droves each season, in and out.

Analogically, with attitudes to social media - Instagram is "a big thing" today and many females see it as a key way of siphoning off the attention from males. Tomorrow, it will be a new trending medium - life's too short for a man aspiring for big achievements to get distracted with that and jump from one platform to another every few months or a year.

Having said that, there will be a proportion of females inquiring about a man's social media profile. I think the best way to defend against it is to attack and put an inquisitive girl on a backfoot. Perhaps, a few exemplary rebuffs will illustrate better my line of thought:

Girl: Do you have Instagram?
TrueAndOnlyAlphaMan: Me? I don't have time for little things.

Girl: Do you have Instagram?
TrueAndOnlyAlphaMan: Instagram? I heard of that, some website for preening girls.

Girl: Do you have Instagram?
TrueAndOnlyAlphaMan: I do, but I won't share it with a girl I just met.

Girl: Do you have Instagram?
TrueAndOnlyAlphaMan: Are you that kind of girl?

Girl: Do you have Instagram?
TrueAndOnlyAlphaMan: Are you one of those girls who likes to stalk people?

Hopefully, you got the picture

Post: #91

There are several options if you do not have instagram:

Show family pictures when she asks for it. What I believe a girl is really asking is a form of social proof. I have pictures of me with my family. If she asks "do you have instagram" I'll show her my "bitch please" album: picture with my family, my grandma, a couple of cute dogs and lastly a picture of me holding a cute baby. That this was a baby from a homeless mother in a 3rd world country and I bought her a pack of skittles to take the picture, I do not mention.

Post: #92

Since this is an active thread regarding tinder, I thought I should post my question here. Anyway, I installed it today and went swiping. When I closed app and opened it again later, I saw girls I already liked. What does that mean?

Tnx

Post: #93

Instagram/snapchat is definitely a prerequisite these days to fuck the hottest girls in the 18-22 age range or it makes it much easier at least. That's why even though I'm a lone wolf I'll start using them.

Post: #94

(07-24-2018 10:38 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Since this is an active thread regarding tinder, I thought I should post my question here. Anyway, I installed it today and went swiping. When I closed app and opened it again later, I saw girls I already liked. What does that mean?

Tnx

Use this thread for your Tinder based questions:

/thread-19115-page-271.html

Post: #95

@ksbms: Do you think I want it to be this way? Hell no. I cannot emphasize that enough. But it's something that I have observed. It's either a "normalcy check" from girls who are the cute, polite type and are attracted but still quite inexperienced and scared; or it is the "status/SMV check" from girls who are the more hot, superficial type.

In an ideal world, we would not have this poisonous social media and all these apps, but alas, we do.

I "get the picture", but whatever I say to a girl who is suspicious and for herself needs a little more reassurance from less "fakeable signals" i.e. anything other than what comes out of my mouth, a FB with a normal family and friends profile would help. It's not all about being "super alpha", so the cocky responses aren't as effective as they might have been in the past, especially because a lot of day game is hard for the girl as well as for us. She only knows us as a complete strange man, exciting, possibly, but also an intimidating prospect.

There are few things I respect more than a non-robotic, smooth yet not obvious - natural appearing - day time cold approach. I'm not insulting the art here. Yes, ideally, we should not care what women think and what women respond favorably and indeed unfavorably to; but too much of this leads to rigid beliefs which do not adapt to to the reality of the playing field.

At the same time, I don't have social media profiles because I despise them, even though on some level I know they are cockblocking me with sweet EE cuties. asdfk proposes a good altternative, but I'd rather not show my family to random people. I would have to hire people (and also a fucking dog) to create such an album of family, friends and pets. The pack of skittles for a picture with a cute baby just demonstrates how ridiculous this situation is, yet here we are.

Post: #96

Sure, have a facebook account (locked down so that they can't stalk your friends etc), to confirm that you're a real person and so on. Have one or two pics that are clearly, identifiably you. But, honestly man, if you're 30+... girls don't give a shit. If they're down to hang with a guy 8+ years their age in the west (I include Poland in that nowadays), they aren't going to care about instagram. Though, like I said if you DO have an awesome instagram (fb is dying), then sure, leverage it... all I'm saying is, is it isn't a prerequisite to get young girls to think you're cool/normal.

I might just stick to LinkedIn, I'm getting too old/clued up for this Kylie Jenner bullshit, and so should you guys.

Post: #97

Guys who refuse to have instagrams remind me of my older brother when he first got his cell phone, that thin motorola one that came out after the sidekick - i think it was called the razer v3. It was his first cell phone and he hated texting, for obvious reasons as it was new and annoying on whatever non-qwerty keyboards were called. He'd always tell girls "no i never text, just call me" as texting was picking up and everyone (especially girls) were using it. He was good looking enough to have girls text him, but he'd always ignore it and called right away instead and they'd cut the convos. Eventually he learned, women want to text so he has to text otherwise he's going to lose out to the guys who do text.

I don't like social media, don't like working out, don't like turning down pizza and donuts, don't like overpriced drinks and loud music, etc but certain things have to be tolerated.. If some guy came here and said he thinks texting is lame and stupid as many young guys 10-15 years ago believed everyone would rip the piss out of him for fucking up his own game over something so trivial. A bad instagram >>>>> no instagram. If you need an excuse just steal my buddies real excuse: "photography is something I've loved since a child but I never showed the tens of thousands of pictures I took to anyone, I wanted a hobby that was only for my enjoyment"

If you hate it so much that you can't stand to use it then fine I can respect that and even envy it to an extent because I don't enjoy it either, but lets not pretend it isn't a major blow almost as bad as a guy who prefers to use a landline over a cell phone. I'm sure some guys can work around it but IMO it requires far less effort to upload a picture every now and then and just get 100 or so followers by following friends of friends and family members.