Post: #76

(05-14-2018 04:39 AM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  As I said I used to get 20 messages in 1 hour, now I get maybe 1 message in 20 hours. That is a 400 x decline in 7 years. Not to mention, quality of the girls and their attitudes have declined as well. Same text, age and pictures in my online dating profile. If you've never been here and come straight from Toronto, it might still seem wonderful. But if you have been here in 2011 (or hell, even earlier), it's ridiculous in comparison now.

I'm just glad I got to drink my fill before the hordes arrived, is all I'm saying.

Damn brother, 400x less is freaking incredible. You still in the Phils now? I'll PM regarding a quick update of then vs now comparisons, if you have time. For so long SEA has been hyped as PP, with numerous blogs and forums dedicated to it e.g. philippines addicts, that nomad philippines blog and forum etc. 400x ... wow.

I guess the only positive thing you can take from it is that you did indeed drink your fill before the hordes arrived. There is a sadness that those who did not experience those days cannot experience if this is their first trip today in 2018, BUT, it's a huge thing that you are one of the men who got to experience this. I didn't and it's one of my biggest regrets as I've always loved asian girls (a lot of guys just don't, and on this forum there's a big leaning towards slavic girls/EE).

I agree that it has nothing to do with "game" and your setting your stats and pics at the exact same for precise control testing demonstrates this. Finally, part of the joy of a place like the Phils that you describe in 2011 is that you can actually treat it as a holiday. Even if you've "got game", you don't really have to use it, you just don't fuck up and escalate. Compare this to other harder places where it's "game on" and even if you get the bang the whole process at times feels like a battle. I've had some easy (pre-game awareness, pre-smartphone/internet era) lays here in the US and I remember the whole process a lot more fondly, yes, when it was "easier" because constantly pushing with a set on a knife edge is something I do because I have to not because I want to. The stress and tension spills over into the sex and even if it's a good bang I don't remember them as fondly as experiences as a whole. So there's the element of you "having game" but not having to use it which is relaxing and refreshing vs the west. Now in 2018 if fat 6s in the Phils are barely responding to messages God help us.

Post: #77

You still can average one 6 per day in SEA, but it will take enormous online efforts, and they will not all be 18 years old, unless you are high SMV (meaning: you get decent matches on Tinder in western countries) or you manage to hook them with a video call. Basically you will have to spend all your days messaging on the dating sites from your room, get flaked on by little shits all day long and by pure numbers, patience, and decent online game it will work, I assure you that. But is sacrificing your health just for some low value monkeys worth it?

Now the only way to make it seem like a "holiday bang trip" is to have a VA do all the shitty work for you. I haven't tried it but I don't see any other way.

Post: #78

Another factor is that local guys in 3rd world countries have stepped up their game a lot compared to 7-10 years ago. There's a lot more taller, buff guys who are not dirt poor. The upper/middle class has been growing and so has nutrition and height alongside that.

That said, you just gotta step up your own value. Not as many free lunches anymore.

Post: #79

Women decide wether a man gets laid or not.

That is a fundamental truth of game that is often forgotten.

I think we all agree that a girl should act in her own self-interest and not on impulse. Many think girls should stay virgins until they meet a man of worth and then marry him.

When more men travel abroad for sex, two things happen:
- because there are more white-skinned men in a brown-skinned country, your value goes down. because you are not a novelty anymore
- when given the choice of 100 white guys, many women will pick the same guys because they are the coolest. they hav looks, are good conversationalists and are not pussies

What is often forgotten and should be emphasized is that game is always played on women terms.

Yes, all the bloggers stupidly invited their in own competition.

My datasheet on how to get great results with Tinder in the Philippines probably did some of the same.
/thread-54979.html

But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. We were never playing the game on our terms.

The women decide. You can delude yourself that you are are a player by living in a 3rd world country. But reality will eventually catch up with you.

Most men who travel there are not man enough to deal with reality anyway.

Post: #80

Hope it's not dying, I love getting new information from the forum, pretty much anywhere new I want to go there is at least 3-4 datahsheets on the city/country. Keep up the good work chaps

Post: #81

(07-06-2018 03:44 PM)Not-a-libtard Wrote:  Hope it's not dying, I love getting new information from the forum, pretty much anywhere new I want to go there is at least 3-4 datahsheets on the city/country. Keep up the good work chaps

Why not contributing in this work as well? The concept of this forum is sharing. Too many guys are just pumping info.

Post: #82

(06-23-2018 11:02 PM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 04:39 AM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  As I said I used to get 20 messages in 1 hour, now I get maybe 1 message in 20 hours. That is a 400 x decline in 7 years. Not to mention, quality of the girls and their attitudes have declined as well. Same text, age and pictures in my online dating profile. If you've never been here and come straight from Toronto, it might still seem wonderful. But if you have been here in 2011 (or hell, even earlier), it's ridiculous in comparison now.

I'm just glad I got to drink my fill before the hordes arrived, is all I'm saying.

Damn brother, 400x less is freaking incredible. You still in the Phils now? I'll PM regarding a quick update of then vs now comparisons, if you have time. For so long SEA has been hyped as PP, with numerous blogs and forums dedicated to it e.g. philippines addicts, that nomad philippines blog and forum etc. 400x ... wow.

I guess the only positive thing you can take from it is that you did indeed drink your fill before the hordes arrived. There is a sadness that those who did not experience those days cannot experience if this is their first trip today in 2018, BUT, it's a huge thing that you are one of the men who got to experience this. I didn't and it's one of my biggest regrets as I've always loved asian girls (a lot of guys just don't, and on this forum there's a big leaning towards slavic girls/EE).

I agree that it has nothing to do with "game" and your setting your stats and pics at the exact same for precise control testing demonstrates this. Finally, part of the joy of a place like the Phils that you describe in 2011 is that you can actually treat it as a holiday. Even if you've "got game", you don't really have to use it, you just don't fuck up and escalate. Compare this to other harder places where it's "game on" and even if you get the bang the whole process at times feels like a battle. I've had some easy (pre-game awareness, pre-smartphone/internet era) lays here in the US and I remember the whole process a lot more fondly, yes, when it was "easier" because constantly pushing with a set on a knife edge is something I do because I have to not because I want to. The stress and tension spills over into the sex and even if it's a good bang I don't remember them as fondly as experiences as a whole. So there's the element of you "having game" but not having to use it which is relaxing and refreshing vs the west. Now in 2018 if fat 6s in the Phils are barely responding to messages God help us.

Hey man I just saw this. True, agreed with that... it was nice not having to run game and just being nice and getting 9s easy that way. These days I don't even see 9s on these Filipino dating sites. Like not even one.

And yeah, I'm still here part of the year, my base is here. But plan to relocate that next year.

Honestly I'm not too worried because I've been doing cold approach since 2002... I can (and will) revert to that. That will work, even in the West, once this place is harder than back home (ironically pussy paradise places often turn into their opposites once the locals are truly sick and tired of the hordes of foreign sex tourists... case in point Salvador, Brazil and many others).

But, 5 words that never crossed my mind when I found one of those rare miraculous oases that WASN'T a cock farm: "this place needs more cock!!!11"

Hence why I never posted (and never would) about the best pussy paradise places on public forums with millions and millions of views, leave alone start blogs about them that only make pocket change anyway.

Share them with friends, sure. Or on private invitation only boards. Plenty of those exist once you network a bit. But sharing relatively small places with millions of men... men that I will never meet, and most of which don't even have an RVF account... It does not compute. It just doesn't make sense.

But as I said previously, it is what it is. Stunner pussy flowing like water from a faucet is over, it's back to solid game now.

So be it.

P.S.: 6s-7s are still super easy though lol.

Post: #83

We have to remember that there are many good gamers on the forum, but also many unskilled spammers who will make a nuisance of themselves and spread the word with their doosh bag friends.

Post: #84

(07-11-2018 04:25 AM)Tintin Wrote:  We have to remember that there are many good gamers on the forum, but also many unskilled spammers who will make a nuisance of themselves and spread the word with their doosh bag friends.

Poland

Post: #85

(07-11-2018 03:27 AM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  ...ironically pussy paradise places often turn into their opposites once the locals are truly sick and tired of the hordes of foreign sex tourists...

I had this thought but it seemed too crazy for me to believe. I now think this is a real phenomenon.

To use an analogy: take a very, very poor country, where people are so desperate for cash they will take any and every opportunity to cheat and even rob a foreigner. The beaches of this country may be beautiful, but after encountering almost every single person in some way trying to extract money from you, you stop having faith in other people, which leads you to automatically disqualifying every single person as a potential friend, and instead marking them as a potential threat. As a result, the small % of people who could have perhaps been lifelong friends or long-term relationships, you discount and ignore, because of your rational bias against the vast majority.

In foreign cities well frequented by western (and turkish and arab) sex/love tourists, foreigners are just seen as money machines. So the central areas of the cities have all the western amenities, plenty of bars, and of course strip clubs, at prices which would make the average local shudder.

As in other threads I think smartphones/apps/internet 2.0 have had the more detrimental effect on these former PPs if I had to choose one of the two, but you get the general point I'm trying to make, when former PPs collapse due to terrible behavior of foreigners and well-established stereotypes of foreigners.

Post: #86

(07-11-2018 10:31 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 03:27 AM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  ...ironically pussy paradise places often turn into their opposites once the locals are truly sick and tired of the hordes of foreign sex tourists...

I had this thought but it seemed too crazy for me to believe. I now think this is a real phenomenon.

To use an analogy: take a very, very poor country, where people are so desperate for cash they will take any and every opportunity to cheat and even rob a foreigner. The beaches of this country may be beautiful, but after encountering almost every single person in some way trying to extract money from you, you stop having faith in other people, which leads you to automatically disqualifying every single person as a potential friend, and instead marking them as a potential threat. As a result, the small % of people who could have perhaps been lifelong friends or long-term relationships, you discount and ignore, because of your rational bias against the vast majority.

In foreign cities well frequented by western (and turkish and arab) sex/love tourists, foreigners are just seen as money machines. So the central areas of the cities have all the western amenities, plenty of bars, and of course strip clubs, at prices which would make the average local shudder.

As in other threads I think smartphones/apps/internet 2.0 have had the more detrimental effect on these former PPs if I had to choose one of the two, but you get the general point I'm trying to make, when former PPs collapse due to terrible behavior of foreigners and well-established stereotypes of foreigners.

I'm not saying we will never get to this point, but I do not think we are close to there yet in PPs. From my time in the Philippines vs. America, it is still in 2017-18 so much easier to get laid in the Philippines it's not even funny. I think what has happened is we reached the peak in these paradises and the dust is settling. That does not mean it will collapse to the point where it will be harder than the west, it just means that it may not get the peak ROI it once did.

Say you bought bitcoin at 3k before it got hot. Then for a short time, the bitcoin went up to 18k, and now it has settled back down to a little under 10k. You still made a very very nice profit even at the new price. That's how I view the current state of PPs. I may benefit in a weird way from not seeing the peak because when I go over to SEA from America, it's still a much better ROI for me over there.

When I tell my friends back home how I was doing with ladies over there, some of their jaws drop because those conditions are just not realistic for non super high SMV guys in America.

Post: #87

Yeah, Philippines isn't harder than the West yet. I'm just saying I've seen that happen in other places. The best example is Salvador, Brazil. I was there in 2002 and it was piss easy. Insane, really. Went back there in 2011 and it was very, very difficult. I got harsh blowouts in daygame just asking for directions, even from girls that I wasn't even trying to pick up on when I legitimately just needed to know how to find a certain building etc...

Post: #88

I don't think the travel section is dying, but people will naturally have gone over the same ground numerous times, whereas a few years ago there was fresh reports and some excitement when people were discovering some less traveled places, and hey started sharing opinions etc

Post: #89

Yeah, white fever is pretty much over. The hot ones are always with locals now. Rip

Post: #90

^Not true.

Post: #91

we are heading towards a future where gaming is the same level of hardness worldwide

smartphones,youtube,internet plays a major factor for this

im pretty sure back in the 80s you could get a 9 with ease in those 3rd world countries

Post: #92

(09-21-2018 02:43 PM)scotian Wrote:  ^Not true.

I should have specified Asia, sorry.

Post: #93

(09-21-2018 02:52 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  we are heading towards a future where gaming is the same level of hardness worldwide

smartphones,youtube,internet plays a major factor for this

im pretty sure back in the 80s you could get a 9 with ease in those 3rd world countries

Not true and also not true.

Post: #94

Post: #95

(05-13-2018 06:53 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Ok, so for about a a decade now we on the forum have been discussing everything to do with women in far flung places around the world, their behavioral peculiarities, their boob size, ass shape, etc etc.

It seems like we might have be heading towards saturation point where almost everything has been said and people are tired of regurgitating the same old stuff, week in and week out.

Nightlife is always evolving, but it seems like guys are more and more reluctant to share their favorite spots with the community.

It was dead, but you brought it back to life with your post. Thank you.