Post: #51

(06-02-2018 06:01 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Please, no. Just tell us Double or Super.

If its double I am going to need to see some photos for...... "research purposes"

Post: #52

I’m doing an experiment eating only one meal a day. So far not too bad but I fell a bit tired at times and my hands get cold.

Post: #53

Really intrigued by the video in the original post, I'm trying it out. So far I can only keep it within a 12-hour window but if I understand correctly, this is still ok. I am not eating within 3-4 hours of bedtime however, and my workouts/runs are in the morning right away after I get up. Nothing but water in between.

It might be hard this summer where my usual habit is to end the night with a beer sitting out on the deck, whereas I would not have this problem in the winter. Mind you, that's something I have come to realise since trying to eat within this 12-hour window - a lot of that extraneous snacking and eating was just a habit.

Post: #54

I'm doing a 5 hour window (hungry as hell right now) based of a PM, just jumped on it because I need to lose a bunch of weight so anything is a better plan than what I've been doing.

Post: #55

(06-04-2018 02:59 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  I’m doing an experiment eating only one meal a day. So far not too bad but I fell a bit tired at times and my hands get cold.

I'm gonna experiment with this next... I've cut it down to two meals in the afternoon and the only thing I drink in the morning is a cup of coffee. It was tough cutting out one of the three meals for like 4 or 5 days, now I dont really miss that third meal at all. Its crazy how my body adjust to not being as hungry as I was when I was eating all the time. I think its pretty clear I (an probably 90% of people) have been over eating pretty much all my life...

Post: #56

Have you guys noticed any emotional changes when you limit your eating like this?

I noticed at first that I was a lot more irritable, and then I got used to it.

For me though, the irritability has been good because I am too nice to people, and have found myself being shorter and more honest when I am hungry, and, it turns out, people respond better to this than being the accommodating guy.

Post: #57

(05-28-2018 04:43 AM)Fortis Wrote:  Fasting is very easy. You just have to find out your optimum discipline technique. For me, I like to rationalize things.

Cr33pin, thanks for making this thread. I learned something new.

Not letting yourself get idle helps as well. I never notice if I am hungry or not until I stop working or whatever I am doing to keep my mind active.

Agreed, excellent thread, I have been doing IF on and off for about ten years and didn't realize it was an actual thing. Loads of good info here.

Post: #58

Your correct on not being occupied. Boredom and idleness clearly become an excuse to eat or snack.

I've noticed a couple of other things: a general sense of heightened awareness (such as of my surroundings) but also a decreased patience to read and concentrate on something written for long.

The sense of hunger in the stomach is a very temporary thing. It comes around mealtimes when I would expect to eat but then it goes away.

I can see where going multiple days (like in that other thread) is feasible once you train yourself up to it.

Post: #59

I've downloaded the My Circadian Clock app to allow my data to be used whilst I switch to time restricted eating.

I have to continue with my usual habits for 2 weeks and log every meal, drink, sleep, workout and supplement in order to provide a baseline of data from which to track progress. I'm currently halfway through. After 10 days the app will start to provide feedback about my eating, sleeping and activity patterns then after the 2 weeks is up I will switch to a time restricted eating routine for a period of 14 weeks.

I'm not really sure what my goals are yet but I intend to track my body fat, overall weight, measurements and maybe blood glucose as I go but I've really just taken an interest in this and I'm curious to see what changes, if any, I notice in terms of general wellbeing, mood, focus, energy levels etc. Any positive physical improvements will be a bonus. The app is just a way of keeping me committed and accountable, and if the study gets a benefit from analysing my data then that's fine by me.

I'm also considering using a light box in the mornings whilst I do this, I already have one but I've never used it for a significant period of time. Maybe I'll add this halfway through the 14 weeks so I can get a feel for any additional benefits.

Post: #60

I found another fasting app called “Zero” which I’m using.

Today I decided to take a break and eat breakfast and I almost had to force myself...I wasn’t super hungry. The body adapts.

Interesting tidbit: When fasting I have noticed that my sense of smell is heightened. Since noticing that I’ve read of others experiencing the same.

I think the next step will be to figure out when I can schedule a multiple day fast.

Post: #61

I just started doing this. Thanks for the thread and the many informative posts.

I watched the video and read this thread but I still don't understand what the differences are between intermittent fasting and time restricted eating other than the need to coordinate your eating time with your circadian rhythm when you do time restricted eating. It seems that time restricted eating is a subset of intermittent fasting that has to be done during daylight hours. I'm a n00b to both of these concepts so please tell me if I'm getting this wrong.

Post: #62

I think the difference is that time restricted eating is something you do every day, whereas IF is more variable (can be whenever you want, once per week, only on weekends, etc. I’ve heard of a 5-2 plan.).

https://thefastdiet.co.uk/michael-answer...questions/

Post: #63

I'm on day 2 of IF. I'm looking to eat 1400 calorie a day for 14 days. I'm eating a meal at 3 pm and a meal 7 pm. I am 5'10 194. I lift weights, but want to cut weight. I'll let you guys know my progress. First day wasnt that bad. I already do Keto and I hear if you do Keto its a breeze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3bDblcPjk

Post: #64

I tried this for a week and lost a lot of muscle and felt extremely sick (even while going to the gym on top of this). Maybe I wasn't getting enough calories?

Either way, I did go into it kind of half-assed. For those of you who had any success with it, how much did you eat during your window?

Post: #65

I started a 5 hour feeding window type of diet a week ago and here are some initial observations.

• Teeth have whitened considerably.
• Greatly improved circulation and blood profile
• Physical recovery improved due to lower systemic inflammation
• Saving money because I have no impulse to buy snacks/fast food/shit, also because I have the patience now to wait until I get home to eat an enormous dinner.
• less distracted because I don't have to stop to eat every three to four hours.
• Drinking less, I've always been a bit of a drunk, but now I'll have three beers and have no desire to keep drinking.
• More than ever now, I greatly enjoy my own cooking
• saving time by cooking once a day and doing the dishes once a day
• more time to sleep because I don't eat breakfast
• somewhat more stable energy levels
• getting leaner by the day on a 300-500 calorie deficit. In spite of the diet I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, which is the best kind of diet.
  

Depending on the results in a couple months I might make it a permanent lifestyle choice due to the convenience and noticeable health benefits.

Post: #66

I got a job in shift 8 to 4 and the pause you get for meal is around noon, or half past it. So I am jumping in on this. It will be hard at first, I know it, especially since these past months I got used to eating all day for my bulk, but I will persevere and adapt.

Post: #67

(06-12-2018 09:08 AM)Qanon Wrote:  I'm on day 2 of IF. I'm looking to eat 1400 calorie a day for 14 days. I'm eating a meal at 3 pm and a meal 7 pm. I am 5'10 194. I lift weights, but want to cut weight. I'll let you guys know my progress. First day wasnt that bad. I already do Keto and I hear if you do Keto its a breeze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3bDblcPjk

I finished my 14 days. I lost 11 pounds and gained a little bit of muscle. I'm now at 183. I lifted yesterday and and enjoyed some Pizza Hut and the Smore Cookie.


I'm back on the diet today and will do it for another 2 weeks. I find the fasted state enjoyable. My body is fully adapted and does not mind waiting til 3 pm to eat the first meal. I'm sharper and more productive and enjoy the fasted state.

And after 7 pm meal, I feel full and I go to bed not hungry. It all comes down to calories in and calories out IMO, but this is the best cutting strategy I have ever tried and I wish I would have done this years ago.

Post: #68

(06-25-2018 09:42 AM)Qanon Wrote:  

(06-12-2018 09:08 AM)Qanon Wrote:  I'm on day 2 of IF. I'm looking to eat 1400 calorie a day for 14 days. I'm eating a meal at 3 pm and a meal 7 pm. I am 5'10 194. I lift weights, but want to cut weight. I'll let you guys know my progress. First day wasnt that bad. I already do Keto and I hear if you do Keto its a breeze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3bDblcPjk

I finished my 14 days. I lost 11 pounds and gained a little bit of muscle. I'm now at 183. I lifted yesterday and and enjoyed some Pizza Hut and the Smore Cookie.


I'm back on the diet today and will do it for another 2 weeks. I find the fasted state enjoyable. My body is fully adapted and does not mind waiting til 3 pm to eat the first meal. I'm sharper and more productive and enjoy the fasted state.

And after 7 pm meal, I feel full and I go to bed not hungry. It all comes down to calories in and calories out IMO, but this is the best cutting strategy I have ever tried and I wish I would have done this years ago.

Congrats on your results. What is the macro breakdown you are following and do you do carb refeeds on your gym days?

Post: #69

(06-25-2018 11:05 AM)Arado Wrote:  

(06-25-2018 09:42 AM)Qanon Wrote:  

(06-12-2018 09:08 AM)Qanon Wrote:  I'm on day 2 of IF. I'm looking to eat 1400 calorie a day for 14 days. I'm eating a meal at 3 pm and a meal 7 pm. I am 5'10 194. I lift weights, but want to cut weight. I'll let you guys know my progress. First day wasnt that bad. I already do Keto and I hear if you do Keto its a breeze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3bDblcPjk

I finished my 14 days. I lost 11 pounds and gained a little bit of muscle. I'm now at 183. I lifted yesterday and and enjoyed some Pizza Hut and the Smore Cookie.


I'm back on the diet today and will do it for another 2 weeks. I find the fasted state enjoyable. My body is fully adapted and does not mind waiting til 3 pm to eat the first meal. I'm sharper and more productive and enjoy the fasted state.

And after 7 pm meal, I feel full and I go to bed not hungry. It all comes down to calories in and calories out IMO, but this is the best cutting strategy I have ever tried and I wish I would have done this years ago.

Congrats on your results. What is the macro breakdown you are following and do you do carb refeeds on your gym days?

Thanks. Right now I heat high protein keto. Probably staying in 10-15 carbs a day range. The rest is protein and fat. I think the 80% fat diet is rubbish. It's def more of a protein diet but the only thing I track hard is the calories which are at about 1500 daily average.

When I hit 165 - 170 pounds, maintenance weight, I will begin doing carb refeeds 1-2 times a week. I will prob stick with Intermittent Fasting all the time, but will increase calories to maintenance calories (2200-2400 daily average) and do refeed on lifting days. I lift twice a week. A back and chest day, and a shoulder,arms day. Instead of leg day, I prefer to sprint 3-4 x a week.

Post: #70

I'd be interested in your experience with time-restricted eating and building muscle. Do you force yourself to eat your 3000+ kcal or whatever amount you need to be in a slight caloric surplus in 1-2 meals within the short feeding window? I find that challenging.

Post: #71

Has anyone been keeping track of body fat and stuff as they do it? Like calipers and stuff?

I'm very curious about how much muscle building is happening and how much of it is just fat and water melting off.

On IF I'm a lot sharper looking in terms of lines, but I'm not actually bigger, I'm just a little more "dry" since I'm not getting all that water off the food.

I want to believe it's got serious musclebuilding potential but still a bit skeptical. Love IF for fat loss and lifestyle otherwise, though.

Post: #72

(06-19-2018 07:04 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  I started a 5 hour feeding window type of diet a week ago and here are some initial observations.

Just out of curiosity, at what time do you start the 5 hours window?

Post: #73

(06-27-2018 05:12 AM)Fortis Wrote:  Has anyone been keeping track of body fat and stuff as they do it? Like calipers and stuff?

I'm very curious about how much muscle building is happening and how much of it is just fat and water melting off.

On IF I'm a lot sharper looking in terms of lines, but I'm not actually bigger, I'm just a little more "dry" since I'm not getting all that water off the food.

I want to believe it's got serious musclebuilding potential but still a bit skeptical. Love IF for fat loss and lifestyle otherwise, though.

Fortis I posted this in Lifters Lounge: /thread-38933...pid1801894
Link to the calculator: http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.a...y-Fat-Navy
It is the most accurate (after DEXA) and inexpensive method. Calipers are difficult to use and can be off by several % depending on how you pinch yourself. It is funny but I got the same measurement with calipers and calculator. Probably managed to pinch it right on the first try.

Post: #74

I started doing this some years ago when my dad came down with diabetes. He is a native American Indian and a lot of their bodies cannot break down the sugars from grains and especially processed foods and sugars. It scared the hell out of me, and having a similar Indian body type I was determined to see if anyone was out there who could give some insight.

Dr. Jay Wortman was the man who turned my on to this. He is an aboriginal doctor who has spend a good part of his life trying to reverse the devastating effects of sugars on the Indian body. His was a traditional diet, which meant a lot fasting and a lot of meat and foraged foods. For the first years I never fasted, as I had myself convinced I needed the calories for lifting gains. But I did follow his Indian diet and the results were what I expected. Lower bad cholesterol, better blood pressure, less bad fat and the early warning signs of diabetes never materialized.

A few years ago my son was born and my life went up to 11. My already busy schedule was now even busier. One of the first casualties to my schedule was the gym. I justified it by telling myself I don't have a sedentary life, so I am only really losing out on the Iron Therapy.

I revisited the Doctor and we decided to add in the fasting with butter coffee in the mornings. I don't remember the transition too well, but I think I adapted with no issues. I eat from noon and I am done by 8pm, 7pm most days. Eating from 2pm and done at 7pm is common as well. But within the 8 hour window. I do eat a bit of carbs, mostly in the form of Japanese rice and noodles, pizza with the boy and the odd hamburger. I cheat a bit more than I would like, but sharing a burger with my son down at the pub is worth it.

I have certainly gained some fat, but my weight is steady at 194. I am looking at finally getting some gym time back and hope the weight stays at 194 while turning the extra into muscle.

Great diet, probably 7 years for me. No chance in hell of going back.

Post: #75

(06-27-2018 05:12 AM)Fortis Wrote:  Has anyone been keeping track of body fat and stuff as they do it? Like calipers and stuff?

I'm very curious about how much muscle building is happening and how much of it is just fat and water melting off.

On IF I'm a lot sharper looking in terms of lines, but I'm not actually bigger, I'm just a little more "dry" since I'm not getting all that water off the food.

I want to believe it's got serious musclebuilding potential but still a bit skeptical. Love IF for fat loss and lifestyle otherwise, though.

I use the accumeasure calipers. They're accurate enough and fast once you learn how to use it.



I believe it's called the "Accu-Measure Fitness 3000 Personal Body Fat Caliper Measurement Tool". Big name for a cheap tool, they run you about seven bucks on Amazon.