Post: #26

South Asians with the brutal mate-guarding.

Post: #27

(06-22-2018 05:49 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  And how many of these Asian girls are getting with sexy Canadian white boys?

Asian dudes have it rough.

Come to Calgary.

Swing a dead cat.

Have sex with a slutty Indian girl.

Post: #28

(06-22-2018 11:38 AM)eljeffster Wrote:  South Asians with the brutal mate-guarding.

I'm so glad that finally people are waking up to it.

Arabs get blasted for it but South Asians are right up there with it.

Have a rep.

Post: #29

(06-22-2018 01:18 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 05:49 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  And how many of these Asian girls are getting with sexy Canadian white boys?

Asian dudes have it rough.

Come to Calgary.

Swing a dead cat.

Have sex with a slutty Indian girl.

Swing dead cat in Marlborough mall, have sex with Indian girl and leave the dead cat for the old Chinese geezers there doing Tai Chi at 7am.

Post: #30

I found out about slutty Indian women in Canada wayyyy too late in life. I worked at this one company that had one in the Canada office. Chick is flirty as fuck over the phone. We don't think nothing of it. She comes down to visit our office, has a HUGE diamond ring on her finger, brought us homemade cookies and snacks, and wore the shortest miniskirt I have ever seen in a corporate office for a woman in her position rank in my field. Several of us had to go into an empty conference room just to catch our breaths. She was easily an 8/10. Bitch was bad to the bone. Lordamercy!

There were at least 3 others that were not management and higher, just as flirty from her office too. Ridiculous. And yeah this was a Calgary division office.

Post: #31

It would be funny if it was opposite and people in India were complaining about all the Canadian babies being born. Hockey guys would be stealing all the snake charmer and washing cows in the river jobs.

Aloha!

Post: #32

(06-22-2018 01:42 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  The Indians in the OP are from a different population. It's the dumb fuck village uneducated Punjabi families that are aborting females. A lot of the Canadian born kids inherit this mindset.

I'm Punjabi myself so I am familiar with the mindset. The male to female ration in Punjabi itself is one of the worst in India.

Punjabis have a party called Lohri every time they have a son. Do you know what they cerebrate when they have a daughter? Nothing.

Educated Indian nerds who work in IT tend to be South Indians. Punjabis are north Indians.

Pretty accurate. Unfortunately I think many Indians dismiss backwards behavior among Indians and in India by saying "Oh, it's the poor/uneducated people, we're not like that."

That may be perfectly valid, but outsiders, and especially the alt-right/nationalists, don't really care about the difference and are more than happy to use things like this to keep out all Indians. I don't necessarily blame them - they have no obligation to accept Indian immigrants and how would they know the difference between the "good" productive/assimilable ones and the backwards ones. We need to start taking ownership of problems among Indian and calling people out for giving us a bad name.

Post: #33

(06-22-2018 05:49 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  And how many of these Asian girls are getting with sexy Canadian white boys?

Asian dudes have it rough.

"South" Asian men, i.e. Indian and Pakistani, have things rough. But in Canada, "Asian" usually refers to East Asian, i.e. Chinese and Korean, and in my humble opinion they have the best deal of any race of men: Basically, as long as you aren't short, are somewhat handsome, and have a good job, you are virtually guaranteed an attractive Asian wife who won't divorce you.

Post: #34

Can anyone from Canada verify if this is actually true? This is a ratio of literally three dudes to one girl in Indian Canadian communities. I'm sure this happens, but that sounds extreme.

With that being said all this family pride/honor shit seems especially strong among Punjabis...horrible custom that has caused severe problems for people I personally know.

Post: #35

(06-22-2018 04:55 PM)Arado Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 01:42 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  The Indians in the OP are from a different population. It's the dumb fuck village uneducated Punjabi families that are aborting females. A lot of the Canadian born kids inherit this mindset.

I'm Punjabi myself so I am familiar with the mindset. The male to female ration in Punjabi itself is one of the worst in India.

Punjabis have a party called Lohri every time they have a son. Do you know what they cerebrate when they have a daughter? Nothing.

Educated Indian nerds who work in IT tend to be South Indians. Punjabis are north Indians.

Pretty accurate. Unfortunately I think many Indians dismiss backwards behavior among Indians and in India by saying "Oh, it's the poor/uneducated people, we're not like that."

That may be perfectly valid, but outsiders, and especially the alt-right/nationalists, don't really care about the difference and are more than happy to use things like this to keep out all Indians. I don't necessarily blame them - they have no obligation to accept Indian immigrants and how would they know the difference between the "good" productive/assimilable ones and the backwards ones. We need to start taking ownership of problems among Indian and calling people out for giving us a bad name.

This is kind of like saying that industrial engineers in Norway need to take responsibility for white Americans getting addicted to opioids and shooting up schools. There absolutely are parts of India where things like this almost never happen and the gender ratio is more or less equal (most of South India, Gujarat, NE India). India is a massive and diverse country -- the problems of one subculture don't necessarily apply to another. This kind of shit almost exclusively happens in Punjab, UP, and Bihar, or at the hands of people from those regions.

Post: #36

(06-22-2018 10:01 PM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  Can anyone from Canada verify if this is actually true? This is a ratio of literally three dudes to one girl in Indian Canadian communities. I'm sure this happens, but that sounds extreme.

Read towards the middle of page 1. Belgrano dissected this properly:

Quote:So among
* second-generation
* South Asian women
* with two previous daughters
* and at least one prior abortion

the ratio is 280 boys born for every 100 girls.

Doesn't sound like a huge group.

It's still pretty disgusting, but yes it does seem this finding only applies to a very specific group of women.

Here's the actual study:

http://jech.bmj.com/content/early/2018/0...018-210622

If you read through the article, you find South Asian women who don't have abortions have normal gender ratios for their third child.

Also, note that almost all the authors are women, one of whom is Manvir Bhangoo.

From the news article:

Quote:Born and raised in Brampton, Manvir Bhangu, founder of a non-profit group that promotes gender equity among South Asians in Greater Toronto, said she was both shocked and saddened by the findings.

Guess who is probably going to ask for more funding for her non-profit, based on a study she co-authored. The study findings might be completely accurate, but her conflict of interest does throw some shade on the entire thing.

It's interesting to me that they didn't look at gender ratios in general. Or did the opposite test of looking at South Asian women who already had 2 boys and had an abortion (just in the off-chance there's the complete opposite effect in that situation and you get 280 girls for 100 boys).

Regardless, even if it's a small minority of South Asians doing this, this shit needs to be called out.

A bit more context:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-06-b...south.html

Quote:The study was led by Dr. Susitha Wanigaratne, a social epidemiologist and post-doctoral fellow at the Centre for Urban Health Solutions of St. Michael's Hospital and the Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences. The study was co-authored with several second-generation Punjabi women, including Manvir Bhangoo, founder of Laadliyan Celebrating Daughters, a non-profit organization promoting gender equity among the South Asian community in the Greater Toronto Area.

Earlier research published by Dr. Wanigaratne's group showed that women born in India, who already had two daughters, gave birth in Ontario to 196 boys for every 100 girls. The sex ratio increased significantly if the mothers had at least one abortion prior to the third birth. They also found that the male-biased ratio was driven by mothers whose mother tongue was Punjabi or Hindi and that the bias remained even after the mother resided in Canada for more than 10 years. The findings suggested the practice of sex selective abortion, which is common in India, is also happening in Canada.

So yes, basically Punjabi and UP people in Canada.

(06-22-2018 10:14 PM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 04:55 PM)Arado Wrote:  Pretty accurate. Unfortunately I think many Indians dismiss backwards behavior among Indians and in India by saying "Oh, it's the poor/uneducated people, we're not like that."

That may be perfectly valid, but outsiders, and especially the alt-right/nationalists, don't really care about the difference and are more than happy to use things like this to keep out all Indians. I don't necessarily blame them - they have no obligation to accept Indian immigrants and how would they know the difference between the "good" productive/assimilable ones and the backwards ones. We need to start taking ownership of problems among Indian and calling people out for giving us a bad name.

This is kind of like saying that industrial engineers in Norway need to take responsibility for white Americans getting addicted to opioids and shooting up schools. There absolutely are parts of India where things like this almost never happen and the gender ratio is more or less equal (most of South India, Gujarat, NE India). India is a massive and diverse country -- the problems of one subculture don't necessarily apply to another. This kind of shit almost exclusively happens in Punjab, UP, and Bihar, or at the hands of people from those regions.

Yes and no, he's talking specifically about North America, and the harsh reality is that you cannot expect Northern Americans to be able to differentiate between South Indians, Gujaratis, and Punjabi/UP/Biharis. Ultimately, it's better to accept we all get lumped in together, and we get hit by horrendous behavior of sub communities that aren't our own.

BTW as I'm sure you know, in North America (at least in the US imo) we call ourselves South Asians collectively, with much intermingling on a social and dating level between the different sub communities. So we can't just say: "Oh, but that's Punjabis, not us" and expect the rest of America to understand, when 95% of the time we act like we're all the same.

So it's either we actively promote that we're distinct cultures in the US or we accept we all have to deal with the shit of sub communities. Not to get all political, but this is also why in the Trump thread I've said Indians in the US need to be careful who they make their spokesmen, having Muslim apologists like Aziz Ansari and Hassan Minhaj isn't a great look.

Post: #37

Am surprised the newspaper printed this article. Usually they will tone down the news if it affects anything except white straight males.

If the abortion rate is so high in this group, I wonder how high domestic abuse is. I say this for every group. Any of you cops or work in the hospitals who can attest to the volume of domestic abuse cases they see from certain groups?

Post: #38

(06-22-2018 10:49 PM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 10:01 PM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 04:55 PM)Arado Wrote:  Pretty accurate. Unfortunately I think many Indians dismiss backwards behavior among Indians and in India by saying "Oh, it's the poor/uneducated people, we're not like that."

That may be perfectly valid, but outsiders, and especially the alt-right/nationalists, don't really care about the difference and are more than happy to use things like this to keep out all Indians. I don't necessarily blame them - they have no obligation to accept Indian immigrants and how would they know the difference between the "good" productive/assimilable ones and the backwards ones. We need to start taking ownership of problems among Indian and calling people out for giving us a bad name.

This is kind of like saying that industrial engineers in Norway need to take responsibility for white Americans getting addicted to opioids and shooting up schools. There absolutely are parts of India where things like this almost never happen and the gender ratio is more or less equal (most of South India, Gujarat, NE India). India is a massive and diverse country -- the problems of one subculture don't necessarily apply to another. This kind of shit almost exclusively happens in Punjab, UP, and Bihar, or at the hands of people from those regions.

Yes and no, he's talking specifically about North America, and the harsh reality is that you cannot expect Northern Americans to be able to differentiate between South Indians, Gujaratis, and Punjabi/UP/Biharis. Ultimately, it's better to accept we all get lumped in together, and we get hit by horrendous behavior of sub communities that aren't our own.

BTW as I'm sure you know, in North America (at least in the US imo) we call ourselves South Asians collectively, with much intermingling on a social and dating level between the different sub communities. So we can't just say: "Oh, but that's Punjabis, not us" and expect the rest of America to understand, when 95% of the time we act like we're all the same.

So it's either we actively promote that we're distinct cultures in the US or we accept we all have to deal with the shit of sub communities. Not to get all political, but this is also why in the Trump thread I've said Indians in the US need to be careful who they make their spokesmen, having Muslim apologists like Aziz Ansari and Hassan Minhaj isn't a great look.

Yup - exactly, thanks for clarifying. There is a deep chasm between how the alt-right sees dysfunctional behavior among some Indians and subsequently views Indian culture as backwards vs. the more nationalist/prideful Indians that dismiss backwards customs as part of the fringe and not at all reflective of their conception of Indian culture.

To Americans/Europeans/Asians/etc, all Indians are the same. We're lucky if they can even distinguish between Indians and Pakistanis or Hindus and Muslims, let alone distinguish between Punjabis/Biharis and South Indians. Bad actions from one group reflect poorly on everyone. We have to self-police our own if we don't want to wear out our welcome in the West (if it's not too late already).

Post: #39

If this parental preference for males is as prominent throughout South Asia as it is here in the immigrant community, the long term effects on dating and fertility will be profound. Specifically, one half to two thirds of the next generation of males will not experience female companionship at all, outside of visting prostitutes. It also means that the current fertility rate for the region, running around 2.4 or so, will drop by at least 50% and more likely 70%, down to around 0.7 or so. This is lower than even the supposedly depopulating east Asian countries like Japan. South Asia could be the most rapidly aging society in the world 20 years from now. The shortage of women means that they will call the shots in the dating game and will also be in control with choosing to have kids or not and how many kids they want. I also think there will be a huge market for sexbots in South Asia as well as in the immigrant communities around the world.

BTW, I see lots of talk about the "incel" problem in far-right discussion groups like these. It is obvious to me that the solution to the "incel" problem will be found in transgenderism, homosexuality, and sexbots. For a business and investment perspective, these will be major growth areas going into the 21st century.

Post: #40

The abortion rate seems to be much higher for 2nd generation. This means those born and raised in Canada, which means they are very much following mainstream culture and feminism.

Post: #41

One thing that hasn't been mentioned. Some Punjabi families will keep having daughters until they have a son. I personally know 2 families where there are 3 daughters and son, and I know another where they had 5 daughters before the son was born.

Post: #42

(06-21-2018 11:26 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 10:48 PM)kinjutsu Wrote:  "South Asians"???
These aren't Filipino or Thai people...

One thing i really don't like is when they throw around the term "south asian" for people from India/Pakistan. At best they should use West Asian or South West Asian.
South Asian make it sound like these people are Chinese, Cambodian or Mongolian.

Here ya go.



That should get you up to speed.

Wait! What?

Madagascar is part of Asia?

Post: #43

(06-23-2018 08:40 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 11:26 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 10:48 PM)kinjutsu Wrote:  "South Asians"???
These aren't Filipino or Thai people...

One thing i really don't like is when they throw around the term "south asian" for people from India/Pakistan. At best they should use West Asian or South West Asian.
South Asian make it sound like these people are Chinese, Cambodian or Mongolian.

Here ya go.



That should get you up to speed.

Wait! What?

Madagascar is part of Asia?

According to this map and only this map. I can find no other reference to "Insular Southwest Asia anywhere on the Internet." The rest of the map is accurate in my understanding of how the sub-regions are divided, although there could be some debate about where the line between SA and SEA actually is.

Post: #44

It may be one of those ethnographic maps, lots of Asian roots in Madagascar.

Post: #45

Quote:Swing a dead cat.

Have sex with a slutty Indian girl.

I'm not making fun of my friend Aurini, but does anyone else find this the most amazing phrase EVER?

"Swing a dead cat. Have sex with a slutty Indian girl."

Conversely, you could also: Find a runover opossum in the street, smear it with bacon grease, and go into a Walmart... You're gonna get a good deal on a TV.


Fucking hysterical! Can't stop laughing.

Post: #46

(06-22-2018 11:46 PM)Arado Wrote:  Yup - exactly, thanks for clarifying. There is a deep chasm between how the alt-right sees dysfunctional behavior among some Indians and subsequently views Indian culture as backwards vs. the more nationalist/prideful Indians that dismiss backwards customs as part of the fringe and not at all reflective of their conception of Indian culture.

To Americans/Europeans/Asians/etc, all Indians are the same. We're lucky if they can even distinguish between Indians and Pakistanis or Hindus and Muslims, let alone distinguish between Punjabis/Biharis and South Indians. Bad actions from one group reflect poorly on everyone. We have to self-police our own if we don't want to wear out our welcome in the West (if it's not too late already).

There are a couple things that need to be noted about this situation:

-- This seems like an incredibly tiny segment of the Indian Canadian population. How many second-gen Desi women who have had abortions and already have had two daughters even are there? Most Desis I know stop at two kids at most (in America, at least). Maybe Canada is different, but I don't imagine that it's significantly different. Unless there's some massive population of second-generation Desi women who have had two daughters and an abortion in their past, who are then practicing sex-selective abortion to have a son, it is actually ridiculous to tar millions of Indian Americans/Canadians/ABCDs under this brush. If the alt-right is doing that, they can go fuck themselves. These people will throw screaming bitch-fits whenever someone calls out the preponderance of white Americans in mass shootings, but they're more than happy to look down on another group of people because of the actions of a miniscule minority. It's especially ridiculous considering that Indian Americans are the most prosperous and educated group in America with a minimal crime rate. I'm a Trump supporter, but I really could care less as to how I appear to Richard Spencer and his pack of inbreds.

-At the same time, there is an aspect of rural Indian culture that is responsible for garbage like this. It is a massive problem in areas like Haryana, Bihar, and UP, where gender ratios are lopsided and violence against women is not uncommon. This a failure of the Indian federal government and of local state governments. There needs to be a violent fix to things like this -- I would suggest that fathers who commit female infanticide be publically flogged and humiliated. India in general needs to get vastly tougher on sex crime. The country as a whole is improving very quickly, and I'm confident that things like this will get phased out -- but they need to get phased out ASAP, violently if necessary.

-- I really could care less about "wearing out our welcome" in the west -- if random people are going to judge me by the actions of people across the world who vaguely look like me (despite speaking a different language, having a very different culture, and growing up in a completely different environment than me), they're pieces of trash. I've actually met a couple white Americans living and working in India. If I lived in India, I wouldn't treat them any differently just because I read a story about yet another white guy shooting up an elementary school. This is a drastically worse and more prevalent problem than second-generation Desi women who have had two daughters and an abortion in their past -- but even then, I would be an asshole if I viewed them as being the same as the worst dregs of their particular community.

-- With all that being said, I agree with you and Genghis that things like this need to be called out and curtailed. Not so that we don't piss off the spergs in the alt right, but because it's a fucked-up, anti-human practice that holds our culture back. Many Indians in the west do do this and actively donate to charities and funds that try to combat attitudes like this. But FWIW this is only a serious issue in rural Northwest India -- it isn't even a problem in South or NE India, let alone among diaspora communities in the west.

Post: #47

(06-23-2018 12:00 AM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  sexbots. For a business and investment perspective, these will be major growth areas going into the 21st century.

Thanks for reminding me.

Sexbots and sextech is definitely going to be an explosion to rival when internet porn first arrived.

This is a serious no brainer and I think everyone should heed your advice and look for opportunities to invest.

Post: #48

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Post: #49

(06-23-2018 08:51 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 08:40 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 11:26 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 10:48 PM)kinjutsu Wrote:  "South Asians"???
These aren't Filipino or Thai people...

One thing i really don't like is when they throw around the term "south asian" for people from India/Pakistan. At best they should use West Asian or South West Asian.
South Asian make it sound like these people are Chinese, Cambodian or Mongolian.

Here ya go.



That should get you up to speed.

Wait! What?

Madagascar is part of Asia?

According to this map and only this map. I can find no other reference to "Insular Southwest Asia anywhere on the Internet." The rest of the map is accurate in my understanding of how the sub-regions are divided, although there could be some debate about where the line between SA and SEA actually is.

Apparently Madascar was settled by Indonesians hundreds (up to a thousand) of years before any Africans arrived on the scene.

Post: #50

(06-22-2018 10:01 PM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  Can anyone from Canada verify if this is actually true? This is a ratio of literally three dudes to one girl in Indian Canadian communities. I'm sure this happens, but that sounds extreme.

With that being said all this family pride/honor shit seems especially strong among Punjabis...horrible custom that has caused severe problems for people I personally know.

Now that I think of it I often did see packs of like 8 indian guys roaming around constantly and whenever I saw the girls there would only be like 2 or 3 of them together max. And at some events Indian males did seem to heavily outnumber females. Either way if they really abort that many girls it's really fucked up.

(06-22-2018 01:18 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 05:49 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  And how many of these Asian girls are getting with sexy Canadian white boys?

Asian dudes have it rough.

Come to Calgary.

Swing a dead cat.

Have sex with a slutty Indian girl.

(06-22-2018 04:33 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I found out about slutty Indian women in Canada wayyyy too late in life. I worked at this one company that had one in the Canada office. Chick is flirty as fuck over the phone. We don't think nothing of it. She comes down to visit our office, has a HUGE diamond ring on her finger, brought us homemade cookies and snacks, and wore the shortest miniskirt I have ever seen in a corporate office for a woman in her position rank in my field. Several of us had to go into an empty conference room just to catch our breaths. She was easily an 8/10. Bitch was bad to the bone. Lordamercy!

There were at least 3 others that were not management and higher, just as flirty from her office too. Ridiculous. And yeah this was a Calgary division office.

I always wondered how a lot of these Indian girls could be so slutty. I thought that Indian men were much more controlling of their women. But the areas with the sluttiest Indian girls are known as the sluttiest areas in general even outranking white girls. For example in Canada Surrey is known for having the sluttiest girls and in Surrey Indians are a heavy majority.