Post: #1

I know there are some masturbation threads already, but i found an article which is interesting. It deals with jerking off, testosterone levels and working out.

Here is the summary:

What do these studies on animals and humans tell us about the relationship between testosterone and sexual activity? Many people have always assumed that after sexual activity, males experience a drop in testosterone levels. There is no research we could find that points to a significant drop in testosterone post-ejaculation. In fact research tells us that the opposite seems to be true. Men will have significant jumps in testosterone levels from sexually arousing stimuli(and certain other types of stimuli). The research also suggests that sexual encounters and ejaculation, will not effect and may increase, testosterone blood levels.
Viewing sexually arousing material, without ejaculating, before working out should be beneficial for improving workouts. Ejaculating before working out, would probably not be ideal, since ejaculation also releases endorphins(pain killing) natural hormones in the body. This would in turn effect your strength and energy before your workout.
The Chinese study also suggests that abstaining from ejaculation will not increase your testosterone levels long term and hence, not improve your bodybuilding gains. Recent studies are also showing a significant drop in prostate cancer risk, for men who more frequently ejaculate. According to current research, ejaculation (or sex) is not going to lower your testosterone levels, in either the short term or long term.

SOURCE: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_masturbat...z1n4MQj4xy

Post: #2

I have read that in the short term busting a nut will make you more calm, relaxed and in general less aggressive (this we all know) but that over a prolonged period of time actually makes your testosterone level more healthy and plentiful. So if you were going into any sort of aggressive competition, you might benefit from abstaining from sex or masturbation for a few days, or a week or so. But if for no specific reason you just didnt have sex or masturbate for weeks on end your body stops replenneshing what is not missing, so if you go a long time without sex your testosterone will actually start to lower.

Post: #3

Orgasm = Oxytocin release in both genders.

Wikipedia says: "Recent studies have begun to investigate oxytocin's role in various behaviors, including orgasm, social recognition, pair bonding, anxiety, and maternal behaviors. For this reason, it is sometimes referred to as the "love hormone"."

Post: #4

I've been abstaining of masturbating of late because it made me feel lethargic, not horny at all and in no mind to go out and do stuff, but lately I've been having lots of sex and phone sex and I find myself progressively hornier despite that many ejaculations. It's like the body knows whether you're waxing the dolphin just by yourself or with someone else.

Post: #5

(03-14-2012 08:03 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I've been abstaining of masturbating of late because it made me feel lethargic, not horny at all and in no mind to go out and do stuff, but lately I've been having lots of sex and phone sex and I find myself progressively hornier despite that many ejaculations. It's like the body knows whether you're waxing the dolphin just by yourself or with someone else.

Well it's more like you get conditioned to the chemicals released, and instead of, with masturbating, getting conditioned to doing nothing/not having any stimulus, with sex, you get conditioned to having sex - thus horniness.

I'd suppose.

Post: #6

I noticed that when I get back from a good gym session and the girl I'm seeing is in my place, I just grab her and fuck the shit out of her and last way longer than usual (usual is about 10 minutes).
I can feel her legs shaking when I'm done.

If you want to make sure that the girl you're about to fuck will come back for more, do some big weights before you hit it. It wears off after around 30-40 minutes though.I know logistically this can be hard. But it will pay off. You will feel mega alpha and just go for it and she will be thoroughly satisfied.

Any Questions?

Post: #7

I have also read that sex releases different kinds of hormones than regular masturbation. I think it has something to do with vaginal juices being around your cock and balls, that cause your own hormones to race and counter act that presence or something like that. This is why you don't really get the same "kick" or satisfaction off of a blow job, or hand job as you do when you're balls deep in some vag

Post: #8

(03-19-2012 09:29 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  I have also read that sex releases different kinds of hormones than regular masturbation. I think it has something to do with vaginal juices being around your cock and balls, that cause your own hormones to race and counter act that presence or something like that. This is why you don't really get the same "kick" or satisfaction off of a blow job, or hand job as you do when you're balls deep in some vag

So if it is juices around the cock, then what happens when you go in strapped? Is this sensation numbed or what?

Post: #9

(03-20-2012 07:33 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(03-19-2012 09:29 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  I have also read that sex releases different kinds of hormones than regular masturbation. I think it has something to do with vaginal juices being around your cock and balls, that cause your own hormones to race and counter act that presence or something like that. This is why you don't really get the same "kick" or satisfaction off of a blow job, or hand job as you do when you're balls deep in some vag

So if it is juices around the cock, then what happens when you go in strapped? Is this sensation numbed or what?

Sex is more physically involved than masturbation so your are bound to release more from the extra effort. But Its probably more of a mental thing. You know that "Im the fucking boss" feeling you get after slamming a new chica down on your tip?

Post: #10

(03-14-2012 10:17 AM)Walnuts Wrote:  I noticed that when I get back from a good gym session and the girl I'm seeing is in my place, I just grab her and fuck the shit out of her and last way longer than usual (usual is about 10 minutes).
I can feel her legs shaking when I'm done.

If you want to make sure that the girl you're about to fuck will come back for more, do some big weights before you hit it. It wears off after around 30-40 minutes though.I know logistically this can be hard. But it will pay off. You will feel mega alpha and just go for it and she will be thoroughly satisfied.

Any Questions?

What sort of weights? Does it matter what exercise? Some cats in here swear by thrusts or squats to bust a lizard.

What about you? If you go heavy on the forearms only, do you still have this same impact on the reptiles?

Please elaborate.

Post: #11

The brain (or body) doesn't know if you are jerking-off or fucking a girl. This is why too much porn and masturbation can actually cause ED. Checkout http://yourbrainonporn.com/ for more info (just ignore the 'careza' and other hippie bullshit they are promoting).

As for testosterone, the max levels of bio-available testosterone are reached within a week. Full body, functional exercises are the best way to maximize T weight-wise: think squats and deadlifts. And no, T levels don't 'wear off' after 30 minutes, nor do they peak just after you're done with a workout.

Post: #12

This confirms my personal experience.

That reality is, that as far as motivation goes for gaming (which is where the anti-wank threads tend to go), it shouldn't matter what your testosterone levels are. That's a question of will power- mind over matter, and not the other way around.

BTW Oxcytocin doesn't get released in men. The male equivalent is called Vasopressin.

Post: #13

(03-20-2012 09:55 AM)Moma Wrote:  What sort of weights? Does it matter what exercise? Some cats in here swear by thrusts or squats to bust a lizard.

What about you? If you go heavy on the forearms only, do you still have this same impact on the reptiles?

Please elaborate.

im not a big fan of squats myself, my left knee gives me problems sometimes. i play football regularly as well so i try not to overwork my legs.

In my experience, it's happened when i've done a hard session and can feel that pumped feeling. When you work out hard your muscles fill with blood and they are visibly bigger and feel a lot tighter as well. that is what your aiming for. if you hit the gym a lot you may know what i mean. it feels like your muscles are about to explode.

There doesn't seem to be a specific exercise that triggers the pump. it seems linked to heart rate though. but NOT cardio. the common factor for me has been big weights with high energy lifts. what that means is you put 1000% into every exercise and i MEAN 1000%.

for me its happened with bench press and dumbbell curls or EZ bar curls.

If you have a steady girl that you want to try this with then i could happily walk you through it.

And @Calex, how do know that? i know what i felt. maybe its not testosterone then but the thing i'm talking about IS real.

Post: #14

(03-20-2012 10:35 AM)soup Wrote:  This confirms my personal experience.

That reality is, that as far as motivation goes for gaming (which is where the anti-wank threads tend to go), it shouldn't matter what your testosterone levels are. That's a question of will power- mind over matter, and not the other way around.

BTW Oxcytocin doesn't get released in men. The male equivalent is called Vasopressin.

vasopressin is anti-duiretic hormone.stops your body from losing too much fluid.

edit: just read its also used in social behaviour & bonding...didnt even know that.

also one of the main roles of oxytocin is to allow the chicks' vag wall to open and suck your sperm up into her! crazy shit

Post: #15

Roosh and many others have posted in the past that you body does in fact notice the difference between female stimulation and your own hand. Your body takes longer to 're-up' post jerk vs if I am railing a chick I will be as horny if not more horny unless I completely spend myself physically piping her. Nature is superior. Porn is another issue but if your hand was truly as 'satisfying' as a women there would be no incentives to go hunt women. It is foolish to think your body does not no the difference there would be no pro-creation if this we're the case.. That site the poster lister must have been done by a female lolz.

Yes the workout thing is correct you get a spike in testoserone post-workout. Legs are the hardest muscles to work thus why you usually get the biggest spikes. But don't over do it tho! Many people in general train to long and hard and end up depleting their natural HGH and going into a Testo deficit (when your body is in crisis mode the last thing it wants to do is attack or go hunt poon). 45-1hr tops. Add a extra 15 min if your rolling hard but if your working out aggressively, quick, and smart 45-1hr is more then enough time to pump out adequate sets. The dudes I see in the gym for 2hrs+ stay the same size lol.

Post: #16

(03-14-2012 08:03 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  It's like the body knows whether you're waxing the dolphin just by yourself or with someone else.

It does. Some studies reveal that your testosterone levels go down after you masturbate to orgasm, but not when you orgasm after sex.

As testosterone boosts your sex drive, its nature's way of saying "fuckers gonna fuck, and wankers gonna wank"

Post: #17

(03-20-2012 04:34 PM)kosko Wrote:  Roosh and many others have posted in the past that you body does in fact notice the difference between female stimulation and your own hand. Your body takes longer to 're-up' post jerk vs if I am railing a chick I will be as horny if not more horny unless I completely spend myself physically piping her. Nature is superior. Porn is another issue but if your hand was truly as 'satisfying' as a women there would be no incentives to go hunt women. It is foolish to think your body does not no the difference there would be no pro-creation if this we're the case.. That site the poster lister must have been done by a female lolz.

Yes the workout thing is correct you get a spike in testoserone post-workout. Legs are the hardest muscles to work thus why you usually get the biggest spikes. But don't over do it tho! Many people in general train to long and hard and end up depleting their natural HGH and going into a Testo deficit (when your body is in crisis mode the last thing it wants to do is attack or go hunt poon). 45-1hr tops. Add a extra 15 min if your rolling hard but if your working out aggressively, quick, and smart 45-1hr is more then enough time to pump out adequate sets. The dudes I see in the gym for 2hrs+ stay the same size lol.

Yes. absolutely true. i never spend more than an hour in the gym. if you're doing weights for more than an hour then you are wasting time or not going hard enough. go hard or go home. that is the attitude you need to build muscle. i think 20-30 minutes per muscle group is about right if you know how to work out properly.

Post: #18

My guess is that with a female around, even after you bust a nut you're still sniffing all the pheromones coming off of her, and get horny again pretty rapidly. They did a study that showed a male rat would practically fuck itself to death if provided with a constant stream of females in heat. Porn works differently, once you befoul your crusty sock you immediately turn the porn off and go do something else, so there's nothing arousing around to get you going again.

As far as the weight lifting is concerned, I lack the willpower to abstain, but I always make sure to wait until after I've gone to the gym. It does help that the gym is about the only place around where the girls aren't all chubby.