Post: #126

It's understandable to get annoyed with women when they inevitably try to invade men/boys having a good time, but things like this happen because weak men allow it.

Weak men allowing women to act out on the worst of their nature is the root cause of many of society's problems. Too many simps out there worshiping pussy.

Post: #127

(05-02-2018 09:34 AM)questor70 Wrote:  Invading male spaces and then destroying them, one at a time.

Countdown to anti-pope Francis ordaining a female "priest".

Post: #128

Time and time again women demand a cushy seat at a table they did not build. The obvious question arises. Why not build their own table with the freedoms and equality they have been gifted with?
Because it's easier to chisel away at male resolve Lady Macbeth style in order to get their way than to get their hands dirty (unless there's Instagram 'tough grrrrl' follower whore points to trade for).
The inherent aggressive and competitive nature of men demands that we build our own table and set our own rules when we're turned away from sitting at a table we desire.
The values and teachings of this once great formative institution for men will have to find some other vessel to live on in. Along with the realization that if successful, it too will find itself increasingly nibbled at, gnawed at, subverted and compromised.
In despair, there is opportunity.

At some point though, men need to turn back and stare at the abyss of the invading Vagina and simply say with conviction, "NO".
I draw the line here. The tip of that deadly V spear goes no further today"

Post: #129

Update: so the funny thing is I talked to my mother the other day, and she's a big supporter of BSA, with her volunteering, and donations to it (along with the Masons, male fraternal societies, and VFW/ American Legion)... She told me she was pissed off too, and this is coming from a woman I respect a lot-- she had trouble joining a charitable organization in my part of Texas that is co-ed, because a lot of men resigned because she was the first woman in this organization about 25-30 yrs ago in east texas...

If she can understand the value of what they're doing, then it just furthers my decision to send my awards back... I'll take suggestions for the letter, and will publish the drafts here, for input.

I'm done with BSA--and it really pains me to say that...

Post: #130

(05-03-2018 12:09 AM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  It's understandable to get annoyed with women when they inevitably try to invade men/boys having a good time, but things like this happen because weak men allow it.

Weak men allowing women to act out on the worst of their nature is the root cause of many of society's problems. Too many simps out there worshiping pussy.

This is a big topic of discussion on the Dalrock blog: When women do something destructive and stupid, do we blame men for letting them do it, or hold the women responsible? The commenters over there say we're too quick to blame men, but in this case I think you're right and the men are to blame.

But there's one other thing. The word on talk radio this morning is that the Boy Scouts did this because they're facing discrimination lawsuits and it's draining them financially.

Apparently, this has being going on for a long time. Here is the cache file of a Time Magazine article on a girl whose family sued Boy Scouts in the early 1990s. I'll comment no further on them.

Post: #131

Personally, I think "of America" is too exclusionary, so they should drop the "A" as well.

Scouts BS seems rather appropriate now...

Post: #132

(05-03-2018 06:12 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 12:09 AM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  It's understandable to get annoyed with women when they inevitably try to invade men/boys having a good time, but things like this happen because weak men allow it.

Weak men allowing women to act out on the worst of their nature is the root cause of many of society's problems. Too many simps out there worshiping pussy.

This is a big topic of discussion on the Dalrock blog: When women do something destructive and stupid, do we blame men for letting them do it, or hold the women responsible? The commenters over there say we're too quick to blame men, but in this case I think you're right and the men are to blame.

But there's one other thing. The word on talk radio this morning is that the Boy Scouts did this because they're facing discrimination lawsuits and it's draining them financially.

The question is, what does saying No to women look like in this case?

It's dissolve the organization, abandon your principles or be sued to death and be forced to give your money to aggrieved groups.

Or go full shitlord - change the oath to include statements rejecting feminism, promoting traditional gender roles, support for gun rights, calling gender fluidity a mental disorder, etc.

Post: #133

Boy Scout leadership just told an entire generation of young men that caving to women's ridiculous demands is the optimal strategy.

Shit test status = failed.

Roosh V for for Chief Scout Executive.

Post: #134

(05-03-2018 09:45 AM)Enoch Wrote:  Boy Scout leadership just told an entire generation of young men that caving to women's ridiculous demands is the optimal strategy.

It's the same group that caved to fags already. The BSA thought it was a great idea to give degenerates unsupervised access to children on overnight camping trips.

Post: #135

(05-03-2018 05:09 AM)Dragan Wrote:  Update: so the funny thing is I talked to my mother the other day, and she's a big supporter of BSA, with her volunteering, and donations to it (along with the Masons, male fraternal societies, and VFW/ American Legion)... She told me she was pissed off too, and this is coming from a woman I respect a lot-- she had trouble joining a charitable organization in my part of Texas that is co-ed, because a lot of men resigned because she was the first woman in this organization about 25-30 yrs ago in east texas...

If she can understand the value of what they're doing, then it just furthers my decision to send my awards back... I'll take suggestions for the letter, and will publish the drafts here, for input.

I'm done with BSA--and it really pains me to say that...

Sending awards back is a good symbolic gesture. But to really hit them where it hurts, they'll need about a ten- to twenty-percent drop in enrollment. Parents need to band together and pull their boys out, or not enroll them at all next year.

Wonder if enough parents are outraged to do this? Matt Walsh wrote a couple of columns on this these past few days at the Daily Wire, and that might help focus people's energy. I don't agree with Walsh on everything and think he sometimes sounds like a humorless stick-in-the-mud. But he's on the mark here.

Post: #136

We can hit them in donations, too. I oversee charitable giving for my company, which is in the outdoor industry, and in the past we've donated quite a bit to the BSA. No more. I'll steer those donations elsewhere now.

Post: #137

When I have enough money to start a non-profit, I'll make a better BSA.

Post: #138

The Girl Scouts are now complaining that their thunder will be stolen by the Boy Scouts. They're saying they were "blindsided" by this.

My opinion: This is a massive failure on their part and the Girl Scouts CEO and upper management needs to be fired.

As soon as the Girl Scouts saw that girls were looking to join the Boy Scouts instead, they should have revamped their brand. The main thing they should have done is altered their programs to do whatever the hell Boy Scouts are doing that attracts girls.

But they should have also changed their marketing strategy and advertised as something like "This is not your mother's Girl Scouts" or "We Challenge Girls To Lead." They should have also stressed that they offer a refuge for girls to be themselves and bond without the interference of boys.

Instead the Girl Scout "leaders" sat on their asses and watched while the Boy Scouts suffered setback after setback, with the Social Justice crowd chipping away at them, little by little.

Now, the Girl Scouts are bound to lose members and money because they "didn't see this coming." Huh? It's a CEO's job to asses the market and see what's coming. As I said, a total failure of leadership all around.

Post: #139

I see this as the mutual destruction of both girl and boy scout brands. Thank you political correctness.

Post: #140

(05-03-2018 04:10 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  The Girl Scouts are now complaining that their thunder will be stolen by the Boy Scouts. They're saying they were "blindsided" by this.

My opinion: This is a massive failure on their part and the Girl Scouts CEO and upper management needs to be fired.

As soon as the Girl Scouts saw that girls were looking to join the Boy Scouts instead, they should have revamped their brand. The main thing they should have done is altered their programs to do whatever the hell Boy Scouts are doing that attracts girls.

But they should have also changed their marketing strategy and advertised as something like "This is not your mother's Girl Scouts" or "We Challenge Girls To Lead." They should have also stressed that they offer a refuge for girls to be themselves and bond without the interference of boys.

Instead the Girl Scout "leaders" sat on their asses and watched while the Boy Scouts suffered setback after setback, with the Social Justice crowd chipping away at them, little by little.

Now, the Girl Scouts are bound to lose members and money because they "didn't see this coming." Huh? It's a CEO's job to asses the market and see what's coming. As I said, a total failure of leadership all around.

Unfortunately, the whole reason girls want to join boys scouts, is because they can.

We know this, anyone who has ever dealt with women on a masculine/feminine level knows this.

As usual, the last people to know this are the busy bodies and PC crowd who have just assured the destruction of Scouts, both boys and girls.

Post: #141

I was in the Cub Scouts here in the UK. Didn't go into Scouts because it was viewed as for geeks and saddoes. How wrong I was back then, but I was just a kid, what did I know? I've got an Amiga 500 and a TV, what's all this stupid shit with sticks and how does it entertain me? I've forgotten about all the knots, tracking and survival skills. Now I've had to relearn as an adult just how useful this stuff is. Getting together with a pack of boys and howling? That's some primitive, deep shit there, man.

What I do remember is what we lads used to say when Akela wasn't around:

"Dyb dyb dyb, dob dob dob, come over here and suck my knob".

That's it. That's what I learned over the two years.

And it's still better than whatever the Soy Scouts are learning now, I'll wager.

But yeah, once you break up the pack and make it about females and their entitlements, it's over. You can circle the drain for a bit longer, but it's still over.

Sad.

Post: #142

(05-03-2018 04:56 PM)Laner Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 04:10 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  The Girl Scouts are now complaining that their thunder will be stolen by the Boy Scouts. They're saying they were "blindsided" by this.

My opinion: This is a massive failure on their part and the Girl Scouts CEO and upper management needs to be fired.

As soon as the Girl Scouts saw that girls were looking to join the Boy Scouts instead, they should have revamped their brand. The main thing they should have done is altered their programs to do whatever the hell Boy Scouts are doing that attracts girls.

But they should have also changed their marketing strategy and advertised as something like "This is not your mother's Girl Scouts" or "We Challenge Girls To Lead." They should have also stressed that they offer a refuge for girls to be themselves and bond without the interference of boys.

Instead the Girl Scout "leaders" sat on their asses and watched while the Boy Scouts suffered setback after setback, with the Social Justice crowd chipping away at them, little by little.

Now, the Girl Scouts are bound to lose members and money because they "didn't see this coming." Huh? It's a CEO's job to asses the market and see what's coming. As I said, a total failure of leadership all around.

Unfortunately, the whole reason girls want to join boys scouts, is because they can.

We know this, anyone who has ever dealt with women on a masculine/feminine level knows this.

As usual, the last people to know this are the busy bodies and PC crowd who have just assured the destruction of Scouts, both boys and girls.

Right, there was nothing the Girl Scouts could have done to prevent the future Hillary Clintons of the world from wanting to join the Boy Scouts. The Girl Scouts could have a camp with tanks that girls could drive, and they'd still want to join the Boy Scouts just to prove themselves. Then they get waved through because none of the scouts wants any more trouble (and probably on orders from high command), until the troop leaders and Eagle Scouts are 50% female.

Post: #143

To those that are saying and considering it - sending back and shredding your Eagle Scout awards? I worked hard for mine and am still proud to put it on the resume - granted I discovered that most people today in the corporate world, including those in high positions, are soy betas that were never scouts themselves and couldn't care less. Regardless, I was there before any of this shit, even before they allowed gays in, and was part of a great troop, learned a lot, and had great experiences. You have no control over what happens to an organization once you have left.

Look at it this way, let's say you got your 4-year degree at some university and 5 or 10 years down the road it lost its accreditation. Is your degree all of a sudden worthless and should be shredded, and you fired from your job that requires said degree?

Post: #144

(05-03-2018 09:37 PM)kamoz Wrote:  To those that are saying and considering it - sending back and shredding your Eagle Scout awards? I worked hard for mine and am still proud to put it on the resume - granted I discovered that most people today in the corporate world, including those in high positions, are soy betas that were never scouts themselves and couldn't care less. Regardless, I was there before any of this shit, even before they allowed gays in, and was part of a great troop, learned a lot, and had great experiences. You have no control over what happens to an organization once you have left.

Look at it this way, let's say you got your 4-year degree at some university and 5 or 10 years down the road it lost its accreditation. Is your degree all of a sudden worthless and should be shredded, and you fired from your job that requires said degree?

I'm just going to "send back" some of my Scout gear, along with an explanation for why I am doing so. Along with that explanation will be a guarantee from me that none of my sons (or other relatives, if I can help it) will have anything to do with the organization going forward. I will not be a Scout leader. I won't financially support the organization.

I don't see it as akin to shredding my college degree. I see it more like a group of alumni stating publicly that they will not donate a single dollar to the school and they will not send their children there. The paraphernalia that I send back are just to signal how serious I take the move. I would have no problem with other Scouts simply sending letters or emails or posting a video on Youtube (for example).

I don't think the Scouts will walk it back. If anything, I think they will double down and do full troop integration. But, perhaps with enough public outcry, we can marginally disrupt the cash flow of Scouting. This may have the effect of causing other organizations to rethink pulling something like this. If that happens, even on a marginal level, I consider sending some badges and letter to Texas to be worthwhile.

Post: #145

(05-03-2018 10:19 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 09:45 AM)Enoch Wrote:  Boy Scout leadership just told an entire generation of young men that caving to women's ridiculous demands is the optimal strategy.

It's the same group that caved to fags already. The BSA thought it was a great idea to give degenerates unsupervised access to children on overnight camping trips.

It isn't just the scouts - the Catholic church in America got into bed (oops...) with left leaning politicians for decades, particularly in the northeast. When gay adoption started to pick up steam in the early 2000s, Massachusetts passed a law that said adoption agencies couldn't discriminate between heterosexual and homosexual couples, and there was no exception for religious organizations.

The only surprise was that the church got out of the adoption facilitation business altogether in Massachusetts rather than cave to the requirements of the law.

Making deals with the alligator only means you get eaten last.

Post: #146

Someone told me today that the reason why Girl Scouts isn't able to change and keep up with the attraction of Boy Scouts is because the Girl Scouts is a moneymaking pyramid operation based on baking and selling cookies which doesn't have the flexibility to change and still deliver the same profits.

So the Girl Scouts are rigid and unable to offer new things - hence girls wanting to join the Boy Scouts instead.

Thoughts?

Post: #147

Probably true.

Post: #148

(05-05-2018 08:44 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 10:19 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 09:45 AM)Enoch Wrote:  Boy Scout leadership just told an entire generation of young men that caving to women's ridiculous demands is the optimal strategy.

It's the same group that caved to fags already. The BSA thought it was a great idea to give degenerates unsupervised access to children on overnight camping trips.

It isn't just the scouts - the Catholic church in America got into bed (oops...) with left leaning politicians for decades, particularly in the northeast. When gay adoption started to pick up steam in the early 2000s, Massachusetts passed a law that said adoption agencies couldn't discriminate between heterosexual and homosexual couples, and there was no exception for religious organizations.

The only surprise was that the church got out of the adoption facilitation business altogether in Massachusetts rather than cave to the requirements of the law.

Making deals with the alligator only means you get eaten last.

That isn't entirely true. There was a huge fight in the American Catholic church through much of the 90's and the 2000's between "progressive" liberals doing all the same subversive shit they usually do to try to turn things into a mockery (like having a female Jesus portrayed).

Wait till the end. I'm saving the best for last

A lot of this came to the forefront in the public sphere after Mother Angelica started EWTN, and became a prominent public figure on Catholic circles. As a staunch traditionalist she came into some rather frequent fights against leftists Catholics who were pulling out all the stops trying to destroy her to the point she eventually left the network.

Here's one article with a retrospective: https://churchpop.com/2016/03/31/mother-...al-church/

Quote:You don’t believe in the Eucharist, you don’t believe in the Immaculate Conception, you don’t believe in the Virgin Birth, you don’t believe in Mary’s power of intercession, you don’t believe in religious life, you don’t believe in being a spouse of Christ.

“You do believe in teaching to little children of the 3rd grade sex education. You do believe in forcing centering prayer and forcing inclusive language upon us. And now you depict Jesus as a woman. You are sick.

“But I admit you have a right to your ways. You have a right to think your own thoughts. You have a right before God and this nation to do what you do. But I resent you trying to destroy the Catholicity of the simple and the poor and the elderly by your ways. I’m not going to accept that.

“But you spread your errors to children. And our children don’t even know the Eucharist anymore. They don’t understand that that is the Blessed Sacrament, that that is the body and blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus. Your catechisms are so watered down, they say nothing but love your neighbor. No, you’ve got to love God first. […]


“We’re not going to go for all those crazy things that you’re pushing out as new, and cultural, and American. They’re not American. America was built on God. America was built to trust in God. And you’ve made it pagan. You’ve helped to make this nation pagan.

“Because you have no spirituality that attracts. Your religious orders are going down. You don’t have vocations, and you don’t even care. Your whole purpose is to destroy.

“You’re not builders, you’re destroyers. I’m not going to take that anymore. I am proud to be Roman Catholic.”

She sparred loudly and frequently with leaders of the liberal church, with her "arch rival" being Cardinal Mahoney from California.

Now here's where it gets interesting. Catholic these days very frequently wouldn't recognize the names of a lot of these people she sparred with. They very abruptly vanished.

Because the cheerleaders of having a more "forward thinking" church were just "Coincidentally" the same people who were expelled for participating in and covering up the child abuse scandal

That's the dirty secret nobody wants to talk about. The entire "Catholic child abuse scandal" was generally NOT a problem traditional Catholics had: it was something promulgated by leftists.



https://www.catholicleague.org/the-odyss...-angelica/

Post: #149

Well at least the young boys will learn what it is to drag the weight of females on their shoulders and at early age and will probably resent it by the time they consider a military career. So we will safely have female only militaries in future. Smart, brave an strong women getting raped on the frontlines for our security.

Post: #150