Post: #101

(04-24-2018 08:54 AM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  But how many actually have genuine relationships with them?

Can't really answer the question, but if the answer is "just a few", and from what 90% of your posts more or less directly suggest or imply, you are undoubtedly one of those blessed few.

Post: #102

(04-24-2018 08:26 AM)Rossi Wrote:  [...]
If you guys think LT girls are conservative. Do NOT ever come to Italia because you'll be shocked. LT is piece of cake for Italians, not just LT, Latvia and Estonia are same too.

We've been naturally trained with Italian girls rest of our lives, so girls from any country is better/easier than Italian girls anyhow.

It's hard to pull in all of Southern Europe. No comparison at all. If your goal is local talent then save those places for last. Plenty of other things to enjoy there but not worth it for pickup unless your aim for tourists.

(04-24-2018 08:49 AM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  It's true, however 10 years ago average guys could get amazing girls. But let's be honest here, in EE you generally get your value, where as in WE you get constantly less, unless it's from social circle. But then again, you have to be lucky enough to have a social circle with hot girls .

I second that. Same looks and game in EE will do better than WE in general. Solid game is solid game everywhere though, that's what everyone should be aiming at in my opinion.

Post: #103

Dont worry Rossi , ı have fake italian pasaport , ı bought in Aksaray/Istanbul just 700$

Post: #104

(04-24-2018 12:41 PM)amustunderecel Wrote:  Dont worry Rossi , ı have fake italian pasaport , ı bought in Aksaray/Istanbul just 700$

I've heard that in Ukraine. Some people told me that Turks are ashamed to say they are Turkish and they're pretending to be Italian

Are you also ashamed to be a Turkish, and you're faking your identity?

Post: #105

(04-24-2018 01:08 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 12:41 PM)amustunderecel Wrote:  Dont worry Rossi , ı have fake italian pasaport , ı bought in Aksaray/Istanbul just 700$

I've heard that in Ukraine. Some people told me that Turks are ashamed to say they are Turkish and they're pretending to be Italian

Are you also ashamed to be a Turkish, and you're faking your identity?

Of course, some of the dumber younger ones will believe it too.

To be fair to Turks, nobody complains more about Turks then Turks themselves

Post: #106

Captain Haddock!! What's going on here?

Post: #107

I was two times to Vilnius. First time stayed 4 or 5 days, and second time just a couple days on my way to Riga and Tallin, circa 2013-2014. Gave my business card to a 7 in the smoking area of Pantera, we had a friendly banter and for my surprise she actully called me and we went to dinner next night. Even though I tried my best (or worst...gotta say back then I was miles away from now regarding my skills with women) even fingering her in the taxi...could not seal the deal. I was going to Kiev the next day and tried it all to get the flag. Did not happened.

Second time pulled a chubby from Salento and banged her in the hostel room I was staying with my mates, while they stayed there trying to hunt something.

I remember seeing some good looking young Italians pulling decent pussy in Salento on the 7 range. But at Pantera which is probably the place with best quality in town, and only rich (apparently), good looking locals where in the company of the hottest pussy.

So, I believe that Rossi pulls in Vilnius, it is indeed not that hard, just not the 9 range. But we go back to the same old story, a 9 for one is a 7 for other or vice versa sometimes...

Post: #108

I do believe that Rossi pulled 4 times, but he is definitely the exception, as Italians are not dark enough to reach those figures. There is always an exception and Rossi sounds like a decent player.
Unless Rossi is a gipsy-Italian. Are you Rossi?

Post: #109

Lithuanians that i've met have been pretty racist, if you look Turkish you have almost zero chance


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Post: #110

Thank you Henny for brillant advice, now ım changing my plans , my next trip should be iran islamic republic.

Post: #111

(04-24-2018 01:46 PM)Rocha Wrote:  I was two times to Vilnius. First time stayed 4 or 5 days, and second time just a couple days on my way to Riga and Tallin, circa 2013-2014. Gave my business card to a 7 in the smoking area of Pantera, we had a friendly banter and for my surprise she actully called me and we went to dinner next night. Even though I tried my best (or worst...gotta say back then I was miles away from now regarding my skills with women) even fingering her in the taxi...could not seal the deal. I was going to Kiev the next day and tried it all to get the flag. Did not happened.

Second time pulled a chubby from Salento and banged her in the hostel room I was staying with my mates, while they stayed there trying to hunt something.

I remember seeing some good looking young Italians pulling decent pussy in Salento on the 7 range. But at Pantera which is probably the place with best quality in town, and only rich (apparently), good looking locals where in the company of the hottest pussy.

So, I believe that Rossi pulls in Vilnius, it is indeed not that hard, just not the 9 range. But we go back to the same old story, a 9 for one is a 7 for other or vice versa sometimes...

My problem is that I always do good in North European countries but I suck at southern Europe, such as Spain, Italy, Greece and so on. I went to Barcelona maybe 10 times, I still don't have Spain flag.

But I hit 4 girls in a week in Lithuania or when I went to Sweden back in 2008, I got like 5 girls in 10 days.

For example, last girl I had in Vilnius was at the bar on Vilnius street. Girl simply opened to me at the bar herself by asking if I was Italian. I said how come you know that? She said, you were speaking Italian on the phone and then we proceed from there.

When I was in Spain or France, I just can't close the deal at all. I'm really great in Poland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and so on.

Post: #112

(04-24-2018 05:38 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 01:46 PM)Rocha Wrote:  I was two times to Vilnius. First time stayed 4 or 5 days, and second time just a couple days on my way to Riga and Tallin, circa 2013-2014. Gave my business card to a 7 in the smoking area of Pantera, we had a friendly banter and for my surprise she actully called me and we went to dinner next night. Even though I tried my best (or worst...gotta say back then I was miles away from now regarding my skills with women) even fingering her in the taxi...could not seal the deal. I was going to Kiev the next day and tried it all to get the flag. Did not happened.

Second time pulled a chubby from Salento and banged her in the hostel room I was staying with my mates, while they stayed there trying to hunt something.

I remember seeing some good looking young Italians pulling decent pussy in Salento on the 7 range. But at Pantera which is probably the place with best quality in town, and only rich (apparently), good looking locals where in the company of the hottest pussy.

So, I believe that Rossi pulls in Vilnius, it is indeed not that hard, just not the 9 range. But we go back to the same old story, a 9 for one is a 7 for other or vice versa sometimes...

My problem is that I always do good in North European countries but I suck at southern Europe, such as Spain, Italy, Greece and so on. I went to Barcelona maybe 10 times, I still don't have Spain flag.

But I hit 4 girls in a week in Lithuania or when I went to Sweden back in 2008, I got like 5 girls in 10 days.

For example, last girl I had in Vilnius was at the bar on Vilnius street. Girl simply opened to me at the bar herself by asking if I was Italian. I said how come you know that? She said, you were speaking Italian on the phone and then we proceed from there.

When I was in Spain or France, I just can't close the deal at all. I'm really great in Poland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and so on.

The secret is revealed we have real-live footage of Rossi walking the streets no game required

Post: #113

(04-24-2018 08:03 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 05:38 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 01:46 PM)Rocha Wrote:  I was two times to Vilnius. First time stayed 4 or 5 days, and second time just a couple days on my way to Riga and Tallin, circa 2013-2014. Gave my business card to a 7 in the smoking area of Pantera, we had a friendly banter and for my surprise she actully called me and we went to dinner next night. Even though I tried my best (or worst...gotta say back then I was miles away from now regarding my skills with women) even fingering her in the taxi...could not seal the deal. I was going to Kiev the next day and tried it all to get the flag. Did not happened.

Second time pulled a chubby from Salento and banged her in the hostel room I was staying with my mates, while they stayed there trying to hunt something.

I remember seeing some good looking young Italians pulling decent pussy in Salento on the 7 range. But at Pantera which is probably the place with best quality in town, and only rich (apparently), good looking locals where in the company of the hottest pussy.

So, I believe that Rossi pulls in Vilnius, it is indeed not that hard, just not the 9 range. But we go back to the same old story, a 9 for one is a 7 for other or vice versa sometimes...

My problem is that I always do good in North European countries but I suck at southern Europe, such as Spain, Italy, Greece and so on. I went to Barcelona maybe 10 times, I still don't have Spain flag.

But I hit 4 girls in a week in Lithuania or when I went to Sweden back in 2008, I got like 5 girls in 10 days.

For example, last girl I had in Vilnius was at the bar on Vilnius street. Girl simply opened to me at the bar herself by asking if I was Italian. I said how come you know that? She said, you were speaking Italian on the phone and then we proceed from there.

When I was in Spain or France, I just can't close the deal at all. I'm really great in Poland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and so on.

The secret is revealed we have real-live footage of Rossi walking the streets no game required

No need to white knight Lithuanian sluts.

All that Rossi said is perfectly doable. On my first day in Vilnius (2013) right after coming from the airport I seated a bit in the first coffee shop I saw. The waiter comes to me with a "gift" from other table, two girls sent me a basket of bread...I thought the gift was that and by distance I nodded as a "thank you". Only after several minutes I noticed there was a ticket..."You are hot, seat here with us". I went there had a chat got the number of the hotter one...but possibly was the less hotter who was more interested, did not managed to meet them after.
After leaving this coffee shop, I asked directions to a young "executive style" lady, she "escorted" me and my buddy for some 500 meters until our destination, and going out of her way. Managed to kiss her some nights later at skybar but no bang. These where just the first two episodes of my short Vilnius experience...Guess I have to go back to prove that they are slutty.

Post: #114

Always been curious of Lithuania, probably one of the more overlooked destinations inside the EU.

Finally found the time to go, I'll be there month of May (and a little of June). Looking forward to recon the place and see how I feel about it.

Post: #115

As Rocha has written, Vilnius is heaven and hell. You can get the best or the worst impression and results. You will bang 4 times in 5 days, as Rossi did or you will leave empty handed. It depends on your experience and origin. If you are a blond guy with blue eyes, stay away. Watch out for fights. Lithuanian guys just love to punch foreigners.

Post: #116

(04-23-2018 04:42 PM)TripleG Wrote:  [quote='REXslavicus' pid='1772657' dateline='1524516086']
I'm siding with RexSlavicus in this debate and am skeptical of Rossi's. I have been more in LT than anyone on this forum, though many trips have been for family reasons and business ventures since I was born in LT. It is a hard place to game, especially Vilnius where the foreigner exotic factor started wearing off 15 years ago when the country became a common cheap airfare landing spot for British (and to lesser extent German, French, Dutch, Scandinavian) stag parties.

It is possible to get ONS but to get 4 in 5 days as some of you claim is hard to believe. We are not talking about tinder but actually meeting someone through day/night-game. I myself have been propositioned on a first date on several occasions by very good looking girls but did not reciprocate as I thought it was "too good to be true". However on both of these occasions I was dressed to the 10s, was not drunk, and commanded very good "bar game". 99% of the time I can't pull that off.

There are several senior members on this forum (I won't mention names yet) with 50+ reps who have been to Vilnius and they struggled mightily. I'm sure these members are better looking than me and definitely have better game. I know one member who has 100+ reps, has done well all over EE, including Russia and could only succeed via Online game in Vilnius.
To cut straight to the point Vilnius is consistently one of the tougher places in EE (Minsk is another) so any story where another member claims how easy it is has to be taken with a "grain of salt".

I had ONS on Friday in Kaunas, took the train to Vilnius on Saturday and had other ONS

You guys still struggle to understand life is random, sometimes you will have a cold streak, and sometimes you will hit jackpot. My first threesome happened after I asked for lighter from 2 girls standing outside kreshatyk metro. But then I didnt have another threesome for many years. Thats part of life.

I am gonna slowly stop posting here because the vibe is just becoming too negative.
One should strive for exceptional results and not define his life by average numbers.

Post: #117

I don't get why some guys on this forum get worked over Rossi's bangs. He could've said 10,20, 50 women, would he be able to prove it without revealing his identity ? Probably not...
Instead of questioning his claims either you ignore it or you get on touch with the guy and see if you can learn something. Arguing with random people online about their supposed success with women in a waste of time imo.

In my experience guys who do well in places like South Europe are not upgrading in Eastern Europe. In fact, they are coming with a different type of game and certain expectations which are not matched and ultimately end up leaving disappointed. Too attract 8s and 9s in Italy you need to be high status, wealthy, good looking and very extroverted. If you go abroad you'll still be wealthy and good looking but your status is gone since nobody knows you and Eastern Europeans are more reserved, being an introvert is actually recommended.
The guys who upgrade are those with low expectations. If you're banging a chubby 5 back in Italy, chances are you'll upgrade to a slimmer 6 in EE just because women are more attractive on average. You will still need game though.

Game is not a global thing that you can apply everywhere in the same manner. You cannot use the same tried and true approach in Lithuania as you would in Italy and expect the same results. There are language barriers, cultural differences, stereotypes etc that affect your game and require additional work from your side to adapt. That's why I can relate to guys who say that they do extremely well in some parts but very poor in others. It just means that your game is not calibrated or the women are not so interesting to make it worth your time

The problem with pick-up nowadays is that with some exceptions, the learning material is very Anglo-sphere focused. There are not many "Bang Ukraine" out there. Instead you have the RSD crap that pushes spam approaches with no mention of cultural differences.

Post: #118

(04-24-2018 05:38 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 01:46 PM)Rocha Wrote:  I was two times to Vilnius. First time stayed 4 or 5 days, and second time just a couple days on my way to Riga and Tallin, circa 2013-2014. Gave my business card to a 7 in the smoking area of Pantera, we had a friendly banter and for my surprise she actully called me and we went to dinner next night. Even though I tried my best (or worst...gotta say back then I was miles away from now regarding my skills with women) even fingering her in the taxi...could not seal the deal. I was going to Kiev the next day and tried it all to get the flag. Did not happened.

Second time pulled a chubby from Salento and banged her in the hostel room I was staying with my mates, while they stayed there trying to hunt something.

I remember seeing some good looking young Italians pulling decent pussy in Salento on the 7 range. But at Pantera which is probably the place with best quality in town, and only rich (apparently), good looking locals where in the company of the hottest pussy.

So, I believe that Rossi pulls in Vilnius, it is indeed not that hard, just not the 9 range. But we go back to the same old story, a 9 for one is a 7 for other or vice versa sometimes...

My problem is that I always do good in North European countries but I suck at southern Europe, such as Spain, Italy, Greece and so on. I went to Barcelona maybe 10 times, I still don't have Spain flag.

But I hit 4 girls in a week in Lithuania or when I went to Sweden back in 2008, I got like 5 girls in 10 days.

For example, last girl I had in Vilnius was at the bar on Vilnius street. Girl simply opened to me at the bar herself by asking if I was Italian. I said how come you know that? She said, you were speaking Italian on the phone and then we proceed from there.

When I was in Spain or France, I just can't close the deal at all.

Damn, I'm shocked.
I always thought Italians were popular in Spain and France.

Post: #119

(04-25-2018 03:13 AM)666 Wrote:  If you are a blond guy with blue eyes, stay away.

Blonde with blue eyes, I did okay when I was over there for a friend's family event

Post: #120

(04-29-2018 11:15 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  Damn, I'm shocked.
I always thought Italians were popular in Spain and France.

Who told you that? Italians and French hate each other.

Post: #121

(04-29-2018 05:29 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 11:15 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  Damn, I'm shocked.
I always thought Italians were popular in Spain and France.

Who told you that? Italians and French hate each other.

Well I'm not an expert on the French, don't French feel equally superior to everyone (Brits, Americans, Germans,etc)? I never heard about any special beef between French and Italian. Enlighten me.

As far as Spain, Italians are all over Spanish Islands and vacation spots, the languages are very similar. I never met an Italian who had anything bad to say about Spainiards and vice versa. So I assumed Italians would do decently in Spain. I don't see how being Italian could negatively impact getting a Spanish flag. And they have gotta be easier than Italian girls, but maybe I'm missing something.

Post: #122

(04-29-2018 05:46 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  Well I'm not an expert on the French, don't French feel equally superior to everyone (Brits, Americans, Germans,etc)? I never heard about any special beef between French and Italian. Enlighten me.

As far as Spain, Italians are all over Spanish Islands and vacation spots, the languages are very similar. I never met an Italian who had anything bad to say about Spainiards and vice versa. So I assumed Italians would do decently in Spain. I don't see how being Italian could negatively impact getting a Spanish flag. And they have gotta be easier than Italian girls, but maybe I'm missing something.

French and Italians don't get along because there are a lot of similarities between both countries, they often compete against each other in many industries such as wine, cheese, cars, even in football. So, they don't really like each other.

As for Spain, yeah Italian-Spanish relationships are much better, culture and language are very similar but that's exactly why girls don't find italian men exotic.

When I go to North Europe, actually Poland and above, girls really find Italians exotic and different.

Post: #123

(04-29-2018 07:11 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:46 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  Well I'm not an expert on the French, don't French feel equally superior to everyone (Brits, Americans, Germans,etc)? I never heard about any special beef between French and Italian. Enlighten me.

As far as Spain, Italians are all over Spanish Islands and vacation spots, the languages are very similar. I never met an Italian who had anything bad to say about Spainiards and vice versa. So I assumed Italians would do decently in Spain. I don't see how being Italian could negatively impact getting a Spanish flag. And they have gotta be easier than Italian girls, but maybe I'm missing something.

French and Italians don't get along because there are a lot of similarities between both countries, they often compete against each other in many industries such as wine, cheese, cars, even in football. So, they don't really like each other.

As for Spain, yeah Italian-Spanish relationships are much better, culture and language are very similar but that's exactly why girls don't find italian men exotic.

When I go to North Europe, actually Poland and above, girls really find Italians exotic and different.

Ok, that makes a lot of sense.

Post: #124

(04-29-2018 07:11 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:46 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  Well I'm not an expert on the French, don't French feel equally superior to everyone (Brits, Americans, Germans,etc)? I never heard about any special beef between French and Italian. Enlighten me.

As far as Spain, Italians are all over Spanish Islands and vacation spots, the languages are very similar. I never met an Italian who had anything bad to say about Spainiards and vice versa. So I assumed Italians would do decently in Spain. I don't see how being Italian could negatively impact getting a Spanish flag. And they have gotta be easier than Italian girls, but maybe I'm missing something.

French and Italians don't get along because there are a lot of similarities between both countries, they often compete against each other in many industries such as wine, cheese, cars, even in football. So, they don't really like each other.

As for Spain, yeah Italian-Spanish relationships are much better, culture and language are very similar but that's exactly why girls don't find italian men exotic.

When I go to North Europe, actually Poland and above, girls really find Italians exotic and different.

The French have a superiority complex over Italians which is mostly groundless. The Italians have a better language, better food, better cars, better history, they are funnier. Maybe French women have a slight edge over Italians, but there's not much in it

Post: #125

About me: Italian guy 180 cm tall (5 feet, 11.26 inches), dark hair, tanned skin, light eyes.

I went in Vilnius for 2 days, I didn't like the vibe, too many tourists around and girls seem to be tired of foreigners trying to approach them.
I don't mean harsh rejections, just that they aren't interested at all, and I didn't see the exotic factor, there are so many tourists, of all races, girls are now used to black/latino/asian look.
With my height sometimes I felt like a dwarf, so keep in mind that you must be tall here.
I had some fat girls who approached me, but if I was there it was for good looking girls .
I did nothing, maybe I was just unlucky, and someone can do better, I don't know.

Girls are very good looking, even if you can see some fatties around.
And their cleverness is equivalent to their beauty, so you need strong game and seriousness (no dumb clown game).


@Rossi what was the age of the girls you banged?
Did you do tables in high end clubs?