Post: #26

I delivered pizza when I was 18 as a part time job (underrated job to be honest) and the Hispanic cooks would use gloves when cooking and handling food. They also wouldn't take the gloves off when using the bathroom.

They'd put on a pair when starting their shift and that same pair would remain until the end, after multiple trips to the bathroom. One time I asked one of them after walking out of the stall after taking a shit with the gloves still on, why don't you change your gloves and/or wash your hands. He was confused by the question. Said he wears gloves so no need to change them or wash hands.

I found it odd they didn't understand the purpose of gloves.

Post: #27

(04-28-2018 06:33 PM)rainy Wrote:  I delivered pizza when I was 18 as a part time job (underrated job to be honest) and the Hispanic cooks would use gloves when cooking and handling food. They also wouldn't take the gloves off when using the bathroom.

They'd put on a pair when starting their shift and that same pair would remain until the end, after multiple trips to the bathroom. One time I asked one of them after walking out of the stall after taking a shit with the gloves still on, why don't you change your gloves and/or wash your hands. He was confused by the question. Said he wears gloves so no need to change them or wash hands.

I found it odd they didn't understand the purpose of gloves.

So apparently a complete lack of reasoning skills doesn't preclude someone from becoming a professional cook.

Post: #28

This whole thing is ridiculous. Just wash your hands after you use the dryer.

Post: #29

Can't say I use air hand dryers either.

It's separate paper towels or go fuck ya' mother.

Not that I actively touch any surface in or near a public bathroom without a tissue or paper towel anyway.
Plus wouldn't you know it? I haven't had a serious illness / flu since 1995.

Post: #30

(04-28-2018 04:09 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Sanitation issues in bathrooms bring out every neuroses known to man.

You could be like debguiled and just get one of these guys in your bathroom:



You gotta worry about the dudes bacteria/viruses, but he gives you a pack of Pall Malls.

Aloha!

Post: #31

The pall malls will kill the bacteria you breathed in while in the restroom.

Ask him for a quick with once over with the lighter to take care of your hands.

Problem solved.

The new texture on your hands will prevent your hands from slipping off your pullup bar.

Post: #32

(04-28-2018 08:53 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(04-28-2018 04:09 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Sanitation issues in bathrooms bring out every neuroses known to man.

You could be like debguiled and just get one of these guys in your bathroom:



You gotta worry about the dudes bacteria/viruses, but he gives you a pack of Pall Malls.

Aloha!

This could never happen in Oregon, but of course you don't know that owing to your hetero-samoan polynesian-privilege.

There are almost no black people in Oregon. Some Mexicans, but they all pretend they are from Central America for activist cred. There is one Hawaiian guy, and I know him. He pretends to be a Mexican or filipino depending on what college girl he is talking to.

Black people are highly prized members of society in Oregon and they would never he asked to do a job like this ever. Cute SJW girls use black men as accessories to prove that they are down.

They laugh extra hard at jokes by these guys, and get in arguments over racism around these guys with other white people, stealing glances over to see who is getting the most approval. They make weird, bumper sticker like announcements in earshot of these guys to signal their wakefulness: "Hate isn't welcome here!"

This is the hobby of all the righteous white people in Oregon, to make black dudes uncomfortable by spreading the awkward.

If you want to make a white girl uncomfortable start talking about Bill Cosby. She gets cognitive dissonance when her two favorite groups are in conflict. Don't make her say it, but in this case, not down with the Cos.

Second on the list is Mexican pretending to be from Central America, and the college girls like to slip it into their conversations like, oh him? That's just Jaaaiiiimmeeee, from Honduras. A friend.

I really hate being associated with a forum that would have a member who would post something like this. I am afraid my body language will give away the fact that I have been exposed to such hate.

On the other hand, there are so few Hawaiians here, I don't know what the party line is, and it might be forbidden to criticize you.

Maybe I will just spend the rest of the day nodding with approval at inter-racial couples.

Post: #33

Paul Malls...or an 8 ball

Post: #34

I knew about the unsanitary effects of hand dryers for quite some time and don't use them for quite many years already. I use paper towels or just let my hands dry themselves - it happens in one-two minutes or so.

Of course it's not a big deal and as mentioned above - if your immune system is decent and you lead a healthy lifestyle you shouldn't get paranoid over this - still big things consist of small ones, so this is one small thing I also do for my health among others.

Post: #35

(04-28-2018 12:25 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

(04-28-2018 08:51 AM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(04-28-2018 07:48 AM)Roosh Wrote:  This study is probably sponsored by the paper industry, but it does sound plausible:

Quote:We know fecal bacteria shoots into the air when a lidless toilet flushes — a phenomenon known, grossly, as a "toilet plume." But in bathrooms where such plumes gush regularly, where does all that fecal bacteria go?

Into a hand dryer and onto your clean hands, perhaps. That's what a new study suggests. Researchers examined plates exposed to just 30 seconds of a hand dryer compared to those left in, you know, just plain feces-filled air.

The findings: Air-blasted plates carried 18-60 colonies of bacteria on average, whereas two minutes' exposure to the mere bathroom air left fewer than one colony on average. What's more, the inside of the dryer nozzles themselves had "minimal bacterial levels." The results were published recently in the journal Applied and Environmental Microbiology.

For the study, a Connecticut-based team looked at 36 bathrooms at facility of the University of Connecticut School of Medicine, Newsweek notes, where one lab produces large amounts of spores of PS533, a specific but harmless strain of bacteria Bacillus subtilis. Colonies of that strain made up about 2-5% of the bacteria found on the air-blasted plates, regardless of how far the specific bathroom was from the lab where such spores were made.

"These results indicate that many kinds of bacteria, including potential pathogens and spores, can be deposited on hands exposed to bathroom hand dryers, and that spores could be dispersed throughout buildings and deposited on hands by hand dryers," the authors said.

What's unclear, they admit, is just why the air-blasted plates showed so many more spores. Dryers could act as "reservoir" for bacteria, they suggested, or perhaps their intense blowing simply provides more exposure to the already contaminated air. And while evidence shows dryers can cover hands in bacteria, they said, it's not certain whether they deposit bacterial spores.

Regardless, as Newsweek reported, study author Peter Setlow perfers paper towels, which are now stocked at all 36 bathrooms used in the study.

"Bacteria in bathrooms will come from feces, which can be aerosolized a bit when toilets, especially lidless toilets, are flushed," Setlow told Newsweek.

What this study doesn't address is if the bacteria is disease causing. If you can't get sick from it then it's harmless like most bacteria that call your body home.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...511723002/

Whether bacteria or viruses cause disease has more to do with an individual`s immune function, rather than the type of pathogen. In general this is true at least, but of course with some exceptions. Also pathogenic load factors into it. (I.e. the number of pathogens of a particular sort, and how many different types and strands you have in your body in total.)

So whether you get sick or not is a question of how well your immune system functions, which again is dependent on things like diet and lifestyle factors, and how many pathogens you are exposed too from all sources. The fewer the better in other words. This is why it`s not a good idea to take as many vaccines as possible, but stick to the basic one`s. The more pathogens you carry the faster your immune system will age via cell differentiation and telomere shortening. Some pathogens are much more immune dominant than other`s though, independent of whether they actually cause clinical disease.

This is true. Herpes, Lyme disease, even HIV don't seem to be a problem for some of the people exposed to them.

Yes I agree, but as the good doctor mentioned, some pathogen`s will force the leucocytes to divide like crazy even though they don`t cause disease. This in turn ages the immune system, which eventually will get you in trouble, unless you find a way of lengthening the telomeres. /thread-67103.html

HIV is a bit different though, as it`s a non cytocidal retrovirus. It just forces the immune cells to divide faster, probably because of an advantageous mutation that occurred at one stage. It`s basically benign like all other known retroviruses, but this mutation will also lead to short telomeres in white blood cells, although through a different mechanism than all other viruses. That`s why disease will usually manifest itself after some delay with HIV infection, depending on a lot of factors. I`m not totally convinced about this standard HIV/AIDS theory yet though, but there are tons of studies showing short telomeres in AIDS patients."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5691640/
"The concept that enduring antigen stimulation leads to T-cell exhaustion that favors telomere attrition and a cell fate marked by enhanced T-cell senescence appears to be a common endpoint to chronic viral infections."

But then again, it could be just a host of other viruses as the study above mentions also, coupled with lifestyle factors like drugs etc. That was the lifestyle of the original AIDS patients in the gay community after all.
Bottom line. Contract as few pathogens as possible, (without going totally OCD about it) and have a diet/lifestyle that doesn`t supress the immune system and age you faster than necessary.

Post: #36

(04-28-2018 06:33 PM)rainy Wrote:  I delivered pizza when I was 18 as a part time job (underrated job to be honest) and the Hispanic cooks would use gloves when cooking and handling food. They also wouldn't take the gloves off when using the bathroom.

They'd put on a pair when starting their shift and that same pair would remain until the end, after multiple trips to the bathroom. One time I asked one of them after walking out of the stall after taking a shit with the gloves still on, why don't you change your gloves and/or wash your hands. He was confused by the question. Said he wears gloves so no need to change them or wash hands.

I found it odd they didn't understand the purpose of gloves.

This is one reason why I don't eat at places run by people from races with average IQ lower then 100. No kebab!

Post: #37

(04-28-2018 12:06 PM)RIslander Wrote:  That's why every toilet should have a toilet seat bidet. Then there's no hand poop interaction. I schedule my dumps to ensure I'm at home and can use it.

Cosign this.

Installing a bidet at home was one of the biggest quality of life improvements I've made in recent years, and it cost $40 to do.

I'll only take a dump elsewhere if I REALLY have to go. Using toilet paper feels downright barbaric at this point.

Post: #38

(04-28-2018 06:33 PM)rainy Wrote:  I delivered pizza when I was 18 as a part time job (underrated job to be honest) and the Hispanic cooks would use gloves when cooking and handling food. They also wouldn't take the gloves off when using the bathroom.

They'd put on a pair when starting their shift and that same pair would remain until the end, after multiple trips to the bathroom. One time I asked one of them after walking out of the stall after taking a shit with the gloves still on, why don't you change your gloves and/or wash your hands. He was confused by the question. Said he wears gloves so no need to change them or wash hands.

I found it odd they didn't understand the purpose of gloves.

This is a common issue in restaurants. Many cooks use gloves as if they're magic sanitary devices, using a single pair in an 8 hour shift.

Health inspectors look out for this type of thing and are very aware of cross contamination due to gloves. In my own kitchen, cooks change gloves many times per hour. I have a kitchen budget for disposables like gloves and I go well over budget for this reason and it's absolutely justified.

Another thing that drives me insane is cooks wearing aprons to the bathroom. It's disgusting. My crew doesn't do it but our restaurant is in a large casino with many other food outlets. On a frequent basis, I see cooks from the casino buffet going to the bathroom with their aprons still on, presumably pulling the apron aside to pull their dick out and take a leak.

If you come to Vegas, you should probably avoid those big casino buffets. Even the nice ones. (That said, I splurge on the Sterling Brunch buffet once every few months just because it's bottomless Perrier Jouet and caviar)

Quote:This is one reason why I don't eat at places run by people from races with average IQ lower then 100. No kebab!

Restaurants run by high IQ individuals still employ plenty of dumbfucks. I wish that wasn't the case but there's only so much you can do. You train and instruct and micro-manage to the best of your ability and you just hope for the best.

Really, if you want to ensure the quality of what you eat, you must cook at home. There's very few other options. I'd say generally speaking higher end restaurants and certain large corporate restaurants are fairly stringent when it comes to food quality and sanitation, but there are many exceptions to this generalization.

Post: #39

Couldn't get the timestamp to work but scrub to 6:33.

Post: #40

(04-28-2018 08:53 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(04-28-2018 04:09 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Sanitation issues in bathrooms bring out every neuroses known to man.

You could be like debguiled and just get one of these guys in your bathroom:



You gotta worry about the dudes bacteria/viruses, but he gives you a pack of Pall Malls.

Aloha!

I simultaneously despise and pity those guys. They're only making a living and have to smell piss and shit all day, but they're super aggressive.

Post: #41

(04-29-2018 05:55 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

(04-28-2018 12:06 PM)RIslander Wrote:  That's why every toilet should have a toilet seat bidet. Then there's no hand poop interaction. I schedule my dumps to ensure I'm at home and can use it.

Cosign this.

Installing a bidet at home was one of the biggest quality of life improvements I've made in recent years, and it cost $40 to do.

I'll only take a dump elsewhere if I REALLY have to go. Using toilet paper feels downright barbaric at this point.

Agree 100%.

Sometimes life happens and I have to go at work. No bidet then. But in the traveling thread I said my portable bidet is a must when going abroad. At home I either use that or shower right after doing my business.

Once you get in the habit, toilet paper alone is just dirtier.

Post: #42

(04-28-2018 07:37 PM)MikeS Wrote:  

(04-28-2018 06:33 PM)rainy Wrote:  

So apparently a complete lack of reasoning skills doesn't preclude someone from becoming a professional cook.

Slapping pepperoni on a pizza doesn't make you a professional cook.

Post: #43

I thought lack of reasoning was how you end up a cook.. . .

Post: #44

If I'm ever at a place that uses hand driers only and no paper towels I'll grab or request an asinine amount of napkins to dry my hands, making a real show of it, and intentionally being wasteful.

Post: #45

(04-29-2018 09:21 PM)rainy Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:55 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

(04-28-2018 12:06 PM)RIslander Wrote:  That's why every toilet should have a toilet seat bidet. Then there's no hand poop interaction. I schedule my dumps to ensure I'm at home and can use it.

Cosign this.

Installing a bidet at home was one of the biggest quality of life improvements I've made in recent years, and it cost $40 to do.

I'll only take a dump elsewhere if I REALLY have to go. Using toilet paper feels downright barbaric at this point.

Agree 100%.

Sometimes life happens and I have to go at work. No bidet then. But in the traveling thread I said my portable bidet is a must when going abroad. At home I either use that or shower right after doing my business.

Once you get in the habit, toilet paper alone is just dirtier.

Veloce and Rainy... Team Cleanest RVF Buttholes?

Post: #46

I'm a wet wipe user myself.

Don't flush those.

Post: #47

(04-30-2018 12:21 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  I'm a wet wipe user myself.

Don't flush those.

Witch Hazel wipes are the best.

Post: #48

I always hated those things anyway.

Does not surprise me that it's another scam which only appears to be better, but ultimately isn't.

No way in hell will all bacteria be killed in the heat - it's essentially a germ-growth-area - not only within the device, but also in the environment since it blows out literally crap across the room.

The Mythbusters episde is also telling. They pushed for the change from paper/washable towels for two maybe three reasons:

A) Ability to sell you an expensive device that needs to be maintained and replaced constantly

B) Fake supposed myths of "saving the environment" - my favorite ones are those babies and voila - they are the most hygienic:

http://www.dberkhoudtarchitect.com/2012/...ir-dryers/

Quote:New Research Proves Cloth Roll Towel Systems (CRT) More Hygienic than Air Dryers

No idea whether those rolls are being re-used, but that should not be problematic. Humanity knows for millennia how to clean textiles well. I can understand the reasoning against the use of paper, but not reusable textiles.

C) Makes bathrooms actually less sanitary and more useless eaters are sick and die - win, win, win.

That is why you see many upscale places freshly washed small towels that you throw into a bin right after use. Let the serfs use those shit-blast-machines.