Post: #26

(04-12-2018 05:21 PM)Trent W. Wrote:  Vilnius is getting more western/scandinavian and girls are getting more hipster and westernized for sure. This is inevitable and will happen pretty much everywhere, more in certain places than others. Until it goes out of fashion and more traditional values come in again. It's all a circle, that's how I see it.

As for what girls prefer...I've had this discussion a thousand times for girls of different cultures and origin. Foreign guys say local girls don't like foreigners, local guys say local girls prefer foreigners. What's true?

While I agree that it's good to have a basic idea of what "clicks" in a certain place, I think your time is far better spent "optimizing" your game for that specific place. Use the info to make a good impression and increase your chances. I'm saying it because many guys get hang up on "what girls like" and complain instead of hustling.

Tom Torero said Vilnius girls are becoming tatted up and with skrillex style hair , seems like a waist overall from the comments/intel, Ukraine and Estonia will yield better results

Post: #27

Lol Estonia is just next to Finland, Scandinavia, there the short-hair and sneakers are already very well present.

Post: #28

Girls are amazing in this city but city itself is very boring. I went there 6 times as far as I remember and I'll visit again but city is really depressing.

Post: #29

Rossi, if you think so you haven't been to deep Russia LOL, all girls in EE will become hipsters it's just a question of time, except those in survival mode trying to find an all out sponsor or more subtle about it

Post: #30

Lithuania seems like Sweden -2 years

https://www.politico.eu/interactive/in-p...lithuania/

From the article

ainst the backdrop of reinstated male conscription, militarization and an emigration crisis, women make up a increasingly large part of Lithuania’s 5,000-strong, part-time territorial defense force.

Women of all ages have enlisted in the wake of the resurgence of Russian-backed separatism, and a tense regional standoff between NATO and Russia. They hope to serve their country, and in turn, they’re challenging deeply entrenched stereotypes about women’s work in the post-Soviet country.

“In civilian life, maybe you have to be the ‘weak gender,’” says Greta Jastremskaitė. “But in the military, we’re the same.”

Post: #31

(04-13-2018 03:43 AM)REXslavicus Wrote:  

(04-12-2018 05:21 PM)Trent W. Wrote:  Vilnius is getting more western/scandinavian and girls are getting more hipster and westernized for sure. This is inevitable and will happen pretty much everywhere, more in certain places than others. Until it goes out of fashion and more traditional values come in again. It's all a circle, that's how I see it.

As for what girls prefer...I've had this discussion a thousand times for girls of different cultures and origin. Foreign guys say local girls don't like foreigners, local guys say local girls prefer foreigners. What's true?

While I agree that it's good to have a basic idea of what "clicks" in a certain place, I think your time is far better spent "optimizing" your game for that specific place. Use the info to make a good impression and increase your chances. I'm saying it because many guys get hang up on "what girls like" and complain instead of hustling.

Tom Torero said Vilnius girls are becoming tatted up and with skrillex style hair , seems like a waist overall from the comments/intel, Ukraine and Estonia will yield better results

Estonia has way more Russian element. Plus lots of Finnish girls on weekend breaks, vacation and alcohol buying trips. I think both Tallinn and Vilnius are worth it for game purposes in general. But I believe it's going to be resembling Scandinavia more and more. I noticed a difference last time I was there compared to 2 years ago.

Post: #32

Good datasheet. I'll be in Vilnius Lithuania soon. Thanks for sharing

Post: #33

(04-13-2018 05:41 AM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  Rossi, if you think so you haven't been to deep Russia LOL, all girls in EE will become hipsters it's just a question of time, except those in survival mode trying to find an all out sponsor or more subtle about it

I don't really care about Russia. I like Vilnius a lot, they speak English too but they are really weird in a lot of senses.

Post: #34

Not much but FWIW, i only know 1 lithunian girl and she married a spanish dude,and the two newest ferraries spotted in spain last weekend both had custom lithuanian plates.

Post: #35

Updates:
- Kaunas, I went on weekdays, had a fun partying night on Wednesday after watching basketball match of EuroLeague of local Lithuanian team. Not much going on to be honest, Thursday I went to Taboo but it was terrible. I imagine weekends would be busy.
- Vilnius, great city to be if you are into tall girls and over 25. My impression is that the environment is arduous if you look for ONS but you could achieve results if you stay long term or reside there. You won't see anyone kissing in the clubs, gutter game seems also not working. I am not into day game but the best way to go seems to go out late around midnight, try the bars and stay up till 5am. Saturday night is nothing special and fewer people were outside in the niight.
In a nutshell, this is another EE place that is burnt and being a foreigner is a big disadvantage. It is still easier and with fewer idiotic foreigners than Poland but you need to put some serious work in action with no garantee to be successfull. Overall I liked the vibe in Vilnius, I felt almost like in Scandinavia.

Post: #36

Being a foreigner is not a disadvantage, it's not an advantage either they are used to it. And all EE capitals along with several 2tier cities are burnt . You need to be good looking to do well, tallish and being darker is a plus, although definitely not a deal sealer

Post: #37

I don't know where the notion of being darker helps.

Im tall, blonde & blue eyed and have success in EE all the time.

Some girls confuse me for russian while others can obviously tell I'm Scandinavian.

Post: #38

(04-23-2018 08:41 AM)DraperJ.hank Wrote:  I don't know where the notion of being darker helps.

Im tall, blonde & blue eyed and have success in EE all the time.

Some girls confuse me for russian while others can obviously tell I'm Scandinavian.

It's a huge advantage in countries like Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia. It was a big advantage in Sweden as well, when I was there in 2008. I don't know about right now.

I was just in Vilnius a month ago. I went there for 5 days and I ended up staying almost 2 weeks because I had 4 girls and I kept rotating them. I knew one girl beforehand but I met 3 there when I went there.

I think Vilnius is pretty great city, maybe I like it more because my type is 1.70-75 cm blonde girls with blue/green eyes. It's my favorite city in the world.

Post: #39

Having darker skin is a disadvantage in ee but so is being blonde when it comes to "beating the system" yet to see either blonde foreigners or guys with dark skin getting super star results

Scandinavians arent well liked as people here read the news ,

Post: #40

(04-23-2018 08:55 AM)Rossi Wrote:  I was just in Vilnius a month ago. I went there for 5 days and I ended up staying almost 2 weeks because I had 4 girls and I kept rotating them. I knew one girl beforehand but I met 3 there when I went there.

Were those local girls -- or tourist/Erasmus girls? If the girls were local, did they speak English?

Post: #41

Yeah im also sceptical to say the least

Post: #42

I could believe 1 month or 6 weeks not in 5 days

Post: #43

Rossi is talking bullshit , so not believe.

Post: #44

(04-23-2018 09:17 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 08:55 AM)Rossi Wrote:  I was just in Vilnius a month ago. I went there for 5 days and I ended up staying almost 2 weeks because I had 4 girls and I kept rotating them. I knew one girl beforehand but I met 3 there when I went there.

Were those local girls -- or tourist/Erasmus girls? If the girls were local, did they speak English?

Yes, local girls. I knew one girl from Milano, she was visiting Italy but she's from Vilnius.

I met other 3 at various places. I met one in Uzupis at Italian restaurant, she was working there. Another one at Huracan coffee, she goes to college there. Other one at Piano Man.

Obviously, I didn't talk much with older people but almost everyone in their 20's and 30's speak English. I didn't have any problem at all. You have to hit the bars when Zalgris play (local basketball team) and usually most bars will be full.

I will be going to Vilnius again in 2 weeks and I want to stay minimum 3 weeks this time.

Post: #45

REX to be honest your analysis are always completely off, I am sure you have never been to vilnius. You even said that spaniards and Italians are whiter than Ukrainians. To Draper, if they confuse you for Russian you were probably in the Ukraine or something like that. Over there, for sure being white is better. Being darker is an advantage and what Rossi is describing is completely possible if he is a darker good looking Italian without a doubt.

Post: #46

(04-23-2018 08:28 AM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  Being a foreigner is not a disadvantage, it's not an advantage either they are used to it. And all EE capitals along with several 2tier cities are burnt . You need to be good looking to do well, tallish and being darker is a plus, although definitely not a deal sealer

Being a foreigner gives you a big disadvantage as opposed to the local guys since they know why you are there, even though you have the best back story behind your visit to EE. Those countries have been invaded for ages. There is only 1 country in EE where being a foreigner from a wealthy and western country is not an advantage, but neither a disadvantage.
It is easier nowadays to shag those girls on holiday or since they are for work/study in Spain or Italy. Those girls when abroad behave in the opposite way than at home, in a real YOLO mood, and are very keen to get shagged by multiple guys. I saw with my eyes what some girls from Lithuania did in Mallorca a few months ago, something you could never imagine if you approach them in Vilnius.
It doesn't happen in WE to have the sexual tourist stigma like in EE - contrarily to what many posters said, nowadays countries like France or Spain are easier than Lithuania or Poland, according to my recent direct experience.
I will in fact avoid in the future making efforts in EE burnt places. It is better to go to Cyprus, Spain, Malta, France or where those girls congregate on holidays.

Post: #47

@Belarus1212, Usually when running into yes; Ukrainians, Moldovans, Romanias, Serbs, Belarusians.

Yes and you might say that about me as well in regards to me commenting on being well received.
Not to hammer on about the looks thing but have had about 30+ people saying I should be a model and that's also people from the Biz. There's not alot of money in it for the guys and alot of gays who have positions of power so I'm not too keen.

I can see as you said a good looking Italian or whatever having results.

@rex - "read the news", hah, guess brits, muricans and wherever you're from are better recieved..

Post: #48

Yes, I agree. Having solid game will serve you almost anywhere and then of course not being socially awkward within an given cultural setting always helps too.

I'm just reading the posts in this thread since the topic sparked my interest, though I haven't been to Vilnius yet. Judging by the OPs post and TripleGs somewhat different version, I'd just say that the preferences simply vary. Color me ignorant, but I can't really envision a setting where everyone is wearing an expensive hugo boss suit and having an amazing, fun experience at the same time. I have two friends who are millionaires and the only difference when partying with them is just that the alcohol is more expensive and I don't have to pay for anything. Apart from that, nothing really changes as far as venues, dresscode etc.
But like I said, I'm not condemning that lifestlye at all. Of course, your perception of the place will be different from OPs.

Then, a thing I'd have to see with my own eyes are those large amounts of guys who studied and work in IT, but have good game at the same time and aren't at all socially-awkward. I know a guy just like that, he does programming and has amazing game. Just saying, I've never seen large amounts of those guys in the same place.

But the stuff you guys wrote definitely put Lithuania on the map for me. Will have to check it out sometime

Post: #49

(04-23-2018 10:47 AM)DraperJ.hank Wrote:  I can see as you said a good looking Italian or whatever having results.

There's this Huracan coffee place by the park there. I know, I've seen several Huracan coffee places there but there's this specific one by the park. I went there almost every day, when I step inside by afternoon, I would see maybe like 15-20 girls and 5 guys there. I think it's right by university and a lot of students go there.

It's a gem.

Post: #50

(04-23-2018 10:15 AM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  REX to be honest your analysis are always completely off, I am sure you have never been to vilnius. You even said that spaniards and Italians are whiter than Ukrainians. To Draper, if they confuse you for Russian you were probably in the Ukraine or something like that. Over there, for sure being white is better. Being darker is an advantage and what Rossi is describing is completely possible if he is a darker good looking Italian without a doubt.

Funny since you liked many of my comments, well I think there is nuance, in general Ukrainians have lighter hair and eyes but many have olive skin , more so than north and center of Italy and much of spain. Some Ukrainians( still a minority) seem to have a similar phenotype to serbs or greeks. But yes, these people are still "white" or whatever. I've been to southern Italy, people still have lighter skin than Ukrainians,even during mid summer, this is all on a gradient after all.