Post: #26

First day back in Istanbul, waited with wing to get picked up by a friend from viaport shopping centre near airport. Did a little bit of daygaming but no luck, once again starbucks had the best chicks in the whole mall. Overall the quality here is not worth coming for.

Second day, met with my wings female cousin and she brought along a friend, we had beers near Taksim. Girls were cute and spoke English, they showed interest, had a good conversation and got their ig's. I didn't see it escalating as they had important exams but they are a future contact and may potentially visit in England.

After that went to a social gathering of mutual friends in Paladium mall on asian side. We drank coffee and then it escalated to alcohol. I was trying it with this brunnette hb8 but she left early. I entertain the whole group but I can't see myself getting laid by any of the girls on the same night - there were a lot of barriers like social influence and logistics.

As the night goes on its past 12 and there is no more metro to where I live. So me and my wing are left with 2 girls, unfortunately one leaves because of school next day. So it is just me, my friend and this blonde blue eyed model chick who is batshit insane. She says you can sleep at mine. But at this point I dont sense that she is dtf and she has a weird vibe to her. She orders some luxury uber and we go to her penthouse in European side. At this moment im just glad I have a place to sleep but I want to bang her. Girl is draped in lv and wears a rolex, crazy rich.

First she said she lives with her dad, then when we arrive she has her own place, no parents. Marble everywhere, rich neighbourhood near Levent with max security. Now this girl starts telling me weird shit like ive been with 4 guys, then she says im a virgin. Nothing this girl said made any sense, she lives in some fantasy world. I put all my cards on the table, flirted with her, touched her, suggested sleeping with her indirectly but her signals were not clear. Ended up passing out on her couch. At least I had a place to stay.

Travelling through Istanbul is hectic, drains your energy when you live on seperate continents. Today I arranged a tinder date but I sense that she will flake. I have 48hrs if I want to get my flag, if I won't get it I won't be dissapointed but I would like to end my trip with a bang. Turkey is not easy for snl's, I feel if I stayed in just Istanbul alone for 20 days it could happen. Only choice now is to frantically meet a girl off tinder quickly either today or tomorrow or go out to a bar. Nevertheless, gaming girls here is fun and every night is full of energy. It is a mad country.

Post: #27

Good luck on your trip. Do not give up. Most people are not doing what you are doing, in life.

Post: #28

Thanks a lot^ Well my tinder date did not flake after all.
On her picture she looked ugly. I meet her in Kadikoy asian side. To my surprise she is a sexy brunette, slim, well dressed girl, red lips dark brown hair. I impressed her right from the beginning. I chose a bar but she insisted we go to a bar called Fil. This is a perfect date venue here in Istanbul which I must recommend. I ordered everything for her in Turkish and already 15mins in the date she was saying "I wish I met you earlier", speaking basics in Turkish goes so far, the bar staff even gave me a discount and changed the music just cos we arrived.

This is where it doesnt go exactly as I wanted. She insists we meet her friends in another bar 15 mins away, I would prefer it to be just me and her but I say ok why not. This bar is also another banging date venue called Revolt bar. It is low key as hell. I meet her friends and make a great impression, order drinks but I want to isolate so I can bang her. So I tell the whole squad that me and her are leaving and nice to meet you, they wish me to enjoy Istanbul.

When we leave it gets better, we are walking side by side grabbing eachother. At this point I want to bounce to her dorm but she says that it doesnt allow visitors, my logistics are messed up so I could not take her home. She said that today she is at her other house and she lives alone and perhaps we can meet again.

I dont know whether to book an airbnb or not but if there is any day I bang her it is today. This sounds beta but me and her had the best time, she is my type of girl, i had a hard time not catching oneitis yesterday, this one is relationship material. Now I have a chick to come back to here.

Post: #29

(03-30-2018 06:26 AM)KingOfMoscow Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 05:42 AM)amustunderecel Wrote:  Yea all young Türkish women super thin like japanese girls, but among adult Türkish obesity super high ?? Hmmm
So what is the difference young Türkish women between adult Türkish women ? Please tell me you Turkey expert ?

Please show your data ? Dont spread lie or uncorfirmed news about Türkish people!!!!

Edit:Average Turkish wome marriage at 26-27 , among kurdish people child marriage is high. They live in iran-ıraq-syria border area.

I lived in both Istanbul and London. And i visit istanbul once a year. I am comparing UK to Turkey in terms of young female obesity (16-24). Previous reports are showing stats among women aged between 16-60.

Turkey stats :

20–24 : Only %3 obese (no data for 16-20). Guessing 16- 20 age group not much different from 20-24

https://academic.oup.com/eurpub/article/19/1/91/460222

Quoting from report ."As it is seen from table 3, most of the young Turkish women are underweight or normal; however, most of the middle aged women are overweight or obese. There is also an age effect for men, however, this is not as great as in women"

UK Stats:

16–24 girls: %10-12 obese .

http://researchbriefings.files.parliamen...N03336.pdf

Correct guys - obesity rates with average stats are always some harebrained notion that 40-70yo women count somehow.

Russia also has an enormous amount of supposedly obese women, but very few of them are obese in the hottest 18-29 age range. The same goes for Italy - all that pasta comes to show only after having been married for decades - most young girls are slim.

Post: #30

(04-05-2018 02:07 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The same goes for Italy - all that pasta comes to show only after having been married for decades - most young girls are slim.

Are you sure that you've been to Italy?

Post: #31

(04-05-2018 03:41 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-05-2018 02:07 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The same goes for Italy - all that pasta comes to show only after having been married for decades - most young girls are slim.

Are you sure that you've been to Italy?

Some regions deviate, but Italian girls aged 18-24 are better than most Eastern European ones.

Though I found those stats a bit deviating from being on the ground. The official assessment of being overweight and being statistically overweight is not anywhere close to coming to our Would-Bang assessment.

No Western country could compete with EE and in return no EE country with FSU ones - at least in the 18-29 age range.

Italy is better than most Western countries, but regions can differ quite a lot.

Post: #32

(04-05-2018 03:41 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-05-2018 02:07 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The same goes for Italy - all that pasta comes to show only after having been married for decades - most young girls are slim.

Are you sure that you've been to Italy?

In my experience location does matter a lot. As you move South you start seeing lots of young fatties.

Post: #33

The only birds I dig are the EE, Latinas and West Africans. The rest don't cut it for me.

I reckon I have met about half a dozen Turkish birds in my life and only one was bangable and she was Turkish Cypriot. Now as for the Tatar and Bashkir females...

Post: #34

I must be an anomaly then, works for me though.

Post: #35

https://youtu.be/GIYMcJJy70Y

2:04 , 1:18, 0:34

Post: #36

(04-05-2018 04:14 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Some regions deviate, but Italian girls aged 18-24 are better than most Eastern European ones.

Though I found those stats a bit deviating from being on the ground. The official assessment of being overweight and being statistically overweight is not anywhere close to coming to our Would-Bang assessment.

No Western country could compete with EE and in return no EE country with FSU ones - at least in the 18-29 age range.

Italy is better than most Western countries, but regions can differ quite a lot.

#FakeNews

I'd rather trust my eyes than those shady charts. If you compare Italian girls vs American girls, of course you would think they're better but generally speaking, they're not good. They're not obese but they're not fit either.

Every girl you talk to in Italia, they complain about those 5 kg they're trying to get rid of.

Post: #37

http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/two-map...and-europe

Post: #38

Today is my last day in Turkey. Tinder date from yesterday told me she could meet in the evening. I straight up asked her if I can stay at hers but she said her parents are home. Then said that I booked an apartment (didn't really). Couple of hours later she says she feels ill and flakes. I try and revive it but no luck. I say nice meeting you, she says to promise me to see her when im back in Istanbul in the future. I tried it all, Turkish girls just don't open their legs easily. It killed my mood cos I was thinking that I would get my Turkish flag 1 day before my flight, sometimes it doesn't work out.

Nevertheless, I enjoyed Turkey very much, I feel at home here almost after spending 20 days. I experienced many things and learnt a lot, it is a crazy country and there was not one day I was bored. Would I come back here to game girls? Yes. It is difficult and not for beginners but my attraction to Turkish girls is so strong I feel like I am prepared to go next time and claim my flag. Despite only getting a makeout, gaming girls was a fun process, especially in such a challenging location. I know what to do next time and how things work here, plus I made huge social connections. All the people I met here were Turkish, I met zero foreigners.

If you want to game girls only stick to Istanbul and Izmir, I haven't tried Ankara but who knows it may be a good place. I recommend Turkey if you like their food (for me no.1 in the world), like the Turkish look and culture and if you are an exotic guy. Your exotic factor will be high, I probably got the most IOI's in Istanbul out of all the places ive travelled to. Learn the basics of the language and it will pay off in dividends, everyone especially girls will appreciate it and make your experience better. The number 1 tip in this country is to filter girls. You need to find the girls who are interested in foreigners and are a bit slutty. Use online game and only approach solo/groups who eyefuck you. I could write a hell of a lot more on dynamics in Turkish society, if anyone has a question about Turkey let me know.

Post: #39

I admire your courage to game in Turkey. I followed your posts from day 1, bit I was somewhat certain that you won't get laid. Please, never return to this shithole country.

Post: #40

It's no more a shithole than London, in fact I feel people are more hostile in some hoods in London. Right now I am at the airport and 2 people randomly helped my luggage up stairs without asking, I also didnt see much litter. I honestly think most of the people have not been to Turkey or only experienced it as a tourist, its not as bad as this forum says.

Post: #41

Mikestar, bear in mind that you are on PUA forum. Your bangless report though 'makes sense'. Noone will ever visit Turkey after reading it.
I'm really wondering why you chose Turkey, it's a waste of time for game.

Post: #42

Of course, but this was not a bang mission, gaming girls here was a side activity but not the main focus. I came here to explore the country and provide an insight and log down my memories. Hopefully you can gain some value from this, if not that is cool. I am not telling anyone they must visit Turkey, I am saying what I thought of it from my time here.

Post: #43

(04-06-2018 02:50 AM)gowest Wrote:  I admire your courage to game in Turkey. I followed your posts from day 1, bit I was somewhat certain that you won't get laid. Please, never return to this shithole country.

I'll tell you Number 1 shithole city in the world. Starts with "L" and ends with "N"

You must be familiar with that city

Istanbul is a lot better than all cities in UK, that's for sure.

Post: #44

(04-06-2018 07:59 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 02:50 AM)gowest Wrote:  I admire your courage to game in Turkey. I followed your posts from day 1, bit I was somewhat certain that you won't get laid. Please, never return to this shithole country.

I'll tell you Number 1 shithole city in the world. Starts with "L" and ends with "N"

You must be familiar with that city

Istanbul is a lot better than all cities in UK, that's for sure.

Is Istanbul better than London? That does not make any sense. I've been pulling 7s and 8s consistently in London over the last years. Try to pull 7s and 8s in Istanbul. You won't even pull a 2.

Post: #45

I'm sure lots of people will visit Istanbul after reading Mikestar's report. It sounds like he had an interesting trip that he thoroughly enjoyed.

Its also not like he had no female contact at all, he wasn't exactly in Saudi Arabia. He went out on dates, went to bars etc and had a good time with local girls, even if he didn't get the flag.

Post: #46

Zatara, why should you visit a country where it's literally impossible to score? We are on this awesome PUA forum, not on Trip Advisor.

Post: #47

Zatara, why should you visit a country where it's literally impossible to score? We are on this awesome PUA forum, not on Trip Advisor.

Are you comedian?

Follow this guy on snapchat , he is Turk:basrikovip

He banging girl more than a rapist in blind people's hospital.

Post: #48

(04-06-2018 10:06 AM)gowest Wrote:  Zatara, why should you visit a country where it's literally impossible to score? We are on this awesome PUA forum, not on Trip Advisor.

How is it "literally impossible to score" in Istanbul? It might be difficult to have a one night stand as a tourist, but that applies to huge chunks of the world with attractive women. Go to Italy, or Japan, or Belarus, or Argentina (or plenty of others) and see how many one night stands you have. That doesn't mean its impossible to get laid in any of these places, it just means it requires more time and work.

If MikeStar was going on first dates while on a short holiday there and getting action he definitely would have gotten laid on second or third dates if he'd had more time in country. I've had sex with Turkish girls before - rural Anatolia is an entirely different kettle of fish, but Istanbul has plenty of girls of loose enough morals to have a good time. And the genetic mixing has resulted in there being lots of hotties there.

Not to mention that theres a balance of holiday lifestyle here, too. I'd far rather spend a week in Istanbul eating good food, seeing amazing historical sights, and fooling around on dates with intellectually interesting girls (even if I didn't get laid) than a week in Manila doing nothing but sitting in a hotel room insta-banging Tinderalla '5's with no personality. Or a week in Magaluf surrounded by the scum of the earth doing nothing but banging hammered chavvy English '4's.

Sometimes you want a slow cooked, more rewarding, long-lasting meal. Sometimes you want instant, crappy quality fast food to scratch an itch. Some of the posters here prefer the former, some the latter. It often changes depending on what life stage a person is in. But in general life is better when you have variety in it.

Post: #49

(04-06-2018 09:32 AM)gowest Wrote:  Is Istanbul better than London? That does not make any sense. I've been pulling 7s and 8s consistently in London over the last years. Try to pull 7s and 8s in Istanbul. You won't even pull a 2.

Not just Istanbul, any city is better than London, really.

Just because you said you're pulling 8 consistenly in London doesn't make it real. Then, I am pulling 9's, 10's in Istanbul over the last years as well. Believable? Not really.

Post: #50

(04-06-2018 01:36 PM)zatara Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 10:06 AM)gowest Wrote:  Zatara, why should you visit a country where it's literally impossible to score? We are on this awesome PUA forum, not on Trip Advisor.

How is it "literally impossible to score" in Istanbul? It might be difficult to have a one night stand as a tourist, but that applies to huge chunks of the world with attractive women. Go to Italy, or Japan, or Belarus, or Argentina (or plenty of others) and see how many one night stands you have. That doesn't mean its impossible to get laid in any of these places, it just means it requires more time and work.

If MikeStar was going on first dates while on a short holiday there and getting action he definitely would have gotten laid on second or third dates if he'd had more time in country. I've had sex with Turkish girls before - rural Anatolia is an entirely different kettle of fish, but Istanbul has plenty of girls of loose enough morals to have a good time. And the genetic mixing has resulted in there being lots of hotties there.

Not to mention that theres a balance of holiday lifestyle here, too. I'd far rather spend a week in Istanbul eating good food, seeing amazing historical sights, and fooling around on dates with intellectually interesting girls (even if I didn't get laid) than a week in Manila doing nothing but sitting in a hotel room insta-banging Tinderalla '5's with no personality. Or a week in Magaluf surrounded by the scum of the earth doing nothing but banging hammered chavvy English '4's.

Sometimes you want a slow cooked, more rewarding, long-lasting meal. Sometimes you want instant, crappy quality fast food to scratch an itch. Some of the posters here prefer the former, some the latter. It often changes depending on what life stage a person is in. But in general life is better when you have variety in it.

You could have not said it any better Zatara. This is what I mean, if for example I stayed for longer and saw that tinder date again I would most likely bang her. You can definitely get laid in Istanbul, however I moved around so much during my trip that worked against me meeting girls. I will be back in the future.