Post: #151

(03-07-2018 08:21 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 03:14 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 01:01 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Man the thirst is real on this thread, putting tradthot's on a pedestal.

I don't think there's any thirst. At the same time, like DOBA says, are we NEVER allowed to give credit to a redpill woman without accusing her of being a "tradthot"? She ain't the best looking, I'll give you that. But it is very refreshing to see a girl with some traditional views every now and then.

TradThot is a word that certain men made because they used to "Enjoy the Decline". But then President Trump won, and they realized that they can (theoretically) be ShitLord Husbands and Fathers - except they can't, because they're not in adequate financial and emotional positions to do so.

So rather than repent, those men made up the word TradThot to avoid focusing on themselves

So call out Roosh and call me out and stop being passive aggressive like you always are and then get into a continuous circle jerk debate with men online like you always do.

The point is MOST (as I've reiterated) women online are doing for attention, for likes, for followers/subscribers - this woman in question specifically said that after she got doxxed - her true reason or not.

Women like Coulter are far and few between, I respect Coulter, but even she sometimes can go out on the emotional end.

The last thing I need is a lecture on game and "enjoy the decline" from you - that fact you're charging men as financially and emotionally unstable FIRST and ignoring the glaring inadequacy of western women truly shows you're putting them on a pedestal.

Once again, I'll repeat, MOST these females DON'T belong on vlogs or twitter, they're doing it for the attention.

Most men on this forum can call out these types of women rightly so - and they don't need to be married or have children to do so.

(03-07-2018 08:46 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Yes. Thank you. Same here by the way, I was married and now divorced. I regret not having kids with my ex-wife, but that's the way the cookie crumbled. You see guys on this forum constantly criticizing women for not having kids and being traditional, but then in the next breath exalting being a player and creating a "harem". Come on...

Because men can do that, women can try but can't.

Let's break it down:

"'A key that can open many locks is called a master key, but a lock that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock.'”

A guy who is skilled with women can know what to look for in a woman they ACTUALLY want to have children with.

Men can have a harem and move onto a legit high quality woman who will have his children and support him. (If they know what to look for)

Unless they prefer being a beta bucks.

If women were more traditional and wanted kids and a nuclear family - the player would die (for the most part).

This isn't the trend of western women and was/is being destroyed by cultural marxism.

End of day, a shitty lock is a shitty lock.

Post: #152

The presented definition of tradthot is wrong too. It's not simply a woman that asks for money online or a whore. It's a woman that tries to edge out power where she doesn't belong doing so or lay claims that don't belong in a conservative paradigm. A lot of women that are tradthots basically amount to what's best described as racist progressivism. No thanks

Post: #153

(03-08-2018 07:45 AM)Repo Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 10:48 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

Suits Wrote:If you had the power to decide for the United States of America, would you give everyone equal rights regardless of race?

Doesn't this depend on which rights you're talking about?

Why would it?

Because some of the rights that people claim exist don't really exist, such as The Right to Be Respected, The Right to Be Taken Seriously, and The Right to Never Be Offended.

Because some of the rights that people are granted are actually harmful, such as The Right to Lower Expectations Because One Is Oppressed.

And because some rights are clearly more important than others, such as The Right To Verbally Criticize the Government being infinitely more important than The Right to Be Served in This Restaurant.

Post: #154

kaotic Wrote:The last thing I need is a lecture on game and "enjoy the decline" from you - that fact you're charging men as financially and emotionally unstable FIRST and ignoring the glaring inadequacy of western women truly shows you're putting them on a pedestal.

So when men refuse to marry, it's because the majority of women are fucking inadequate for marriage, but when women refuse to marry, it's impossible for this to be because the majority of men are fucking inadequate for marriage?

Women went through a culture that promotes narcissism, which utterly ruins their ability to become wives, but men went through the exact same culture, and survived largely unscathed?

And because you know both of those things to be true, you can use empty mind-reading phrases like "You're putting X on a pedestal" rather than considering "Maybe I spoke too strongly.", "Maybe you know something I don't.", or "Maybe you're just seeing something I can't.'

Come on, man.

Post: #155

(03-08-2018 12:58 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  The presented definition of tradthot is wrong too. It's not simply a woman that asks for money online or a whore. It's a woman that tries to edge out power where she doesn't belong doing so or lay claims that don't belong in a conservative paradigm. A lot of women that are tradthots basically amount to what's best described as racist progressivism. No thanks

You'll never convince me that women don't belong on YouTube, a place with literally (almost) Infinite bandwidth, allowing the entire human population (times 500) to express their views.

Whether White Nationalism is appropriately described as Traditionalism is a separate question, but perusing White Nationalist YouTube videos will weaken an "Absolutely Not" position. In a debate, Nick Fuentes quoted Presidents Jefferson and Lincoln saying some racist, exclusionary shit.

Post: #156

Nah I didn't speak too strongly.

Men and women don't act or think the same, they also react differently to their environment.

This is why I think men and women vary differently on their inadequacies for marriage, more so on the woman's side than a mans.

You'll notice I said a "skilled" man knows how to navigate these waters, not beta bucks.

Putting pussy on a pedestal isn't an empty minded phrase - if you spent any time in the game forum you'd know this.

Idolizing attention whoring women or these "traditional" women spouting their beliefs online for likes and followers - is just that.

That's the point I was making when it came to the pedestal comment.

Have fun with your alt right waifus !

Post: #157

MMX, why not just cut to the chase and tell us all what Vox Day has to say on the subject?

Post: #158

(03-07-2018 08:57 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 08:28 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 08:15 PM)Suits Wrote:  What do you propose?

That there be first class and second class citizens?

How do I become a Chinese with full right to be monitored and earn points in their "good boy" scheme?

I don't have any idea what you are talking about, so let's go back to my simply question.

I'm asking if you believe that a country should have first or second class citizens.

I know the world isn't a fair place. I know that many countries do not treat all people equally.

What I'm asking is a simply question of policy.

If you had the power to decide for the United States of America, would you give everyone equal rights regardless of race?

Or would you choose to give people different rights based on race?

As I've said countless of times before, and which is the key argument, is that it's not me taking away your rights (or black/chinese/mexican rights), but the black/chinese/mexican themselves.

Only people of European heritage have ever showed an inkling of understanding and desire to have universal rights.

Give me one, just one, example of non-European heritage people giving equal rights to the "other".

You can maintain your "the world as it should be" mindset, but think it through. If reality is as I claim, that requires European dominance. It already does through the UN human rights, which would be gone tomorrow if the US wasn't behind it.

It's thus not really about what I want or think, it's about the paradox that, if we cherish universal rights, we will probably lose those rights, because most non-europeans don't buy the concept.

Post: #159

(03-08-2018 09:09 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 04:44 PM)mikado Wrote:  First, I don't see how the fuck I claimed to be speaking for the whole forum.

Certainly you have a lot of valid points. But where we differ, is that for me, being French isn't transmitted by the race, but more like the family values, traditions and history you transmit to your kids.

And furthemore, what do you make of people from the Antilles (Martinique, Guadeloupe, Nouvelle Calédonie etc), who are french since eons, even before cities like Nice? They certainly look more like me than a random white guy from Bretagne or Angoulême. But maybe you will say that those do not count?

What about the Polish communities that came to work in the North of France? France has a history in Africa and Antilles and made lots of mixed kids centuries before the Polish/Italian immigration.

Good luck when the SJW come for you, and the black people end up joining them. Yeah maybe, you will have superior firepower. If you think it's worth it sacrificing millions of lifes just to push a white race narrative, whereas you could rally millions of red pill people and restore previous traditionnal dynamics in society.

Mikado you inject yourself into a lot of the race threads though often ending up getting your feelings and I can commend you for that. Furthermore, I have to say that it's not a problem of being faced with an either/or solution regarding this; as it's not that some nations have to face eventual erasure or choose to kill many current non-native populations. I've noticed that this assumption comes up a lot from minorities in commonly divisive topics from police shootings to immigration and it doesn't promote good discussion. It's not only on minorities in the west though, as it's become unfortunately clear that some low IQ Europeans adopt the killing idea as a good thing because they're lazy or suffer from mental disorder. Rest assured that the collective will of native Europeans isn't a desire to absent mindedly kill other groups among it's borders. If that were so, it's obvious that it would have happened already. I notice that black americans commonly accuse us white americans of secretly holding a desire to kill them or say that's been the historical plan all along, which is totally disingenuous of them.

The heart of the immigration issue is that every culture has a right to continuity and many Europeans are saying that whatever must be done to preserve them as a people should be done. Making a jump to mass killings is sensationalist, when complete stops on immigration and repatriations could better solve that. Total segregation is probably overboard. On the other hand, I don't think it's fair when non-ethnically native groups cry murder at such things as immigration stops or promotion of the native culture.

It's a travesty when any culture group of the world is lost. When they're gone, they're gone for good. Even Europeans have contributed to displacement or endangering other cultures in the past have taken steps to correct past those contributions. Past mistakes shouldn't serve as a marking that designates open hunting season for displacing or assimilating Europeans out of existence. If this is supposedly the modern civilized age, other peoples should honor that generalized civility. It would be a shame to see the cultures of Nigeria, China or Paraguay erased. There would be international concern if that were the case and the rule should extend the same to Europeans in their native countries. Nothing good is going to come of the current possible directions the migrant/multicultural crisis can go until people start thinking internationally and civilly about it.

You bring up Martinique in regards to France. All right. What would be the issue if most natives of Martinique were asked to return or paid to return in order to safeguard the population continuity of the continental French?

First: thanks for your (very reasonable) comment, and for not having the need to dig up my posts and bring up an irrelevant post in a pretty much irrelevant thread in the grand scheme of things about my penis, when I only used that exemple as a one-liner exemple of stereotyping. Typical trolling.

I understand the need for white (continental?) people to have their "safe space", to say. And I do completely agree that the majority in Europe, or USA for example should be white, the same way blacks should be the majority in Africa.


I am the last to cry racism at every corner too, and actually I could even find some people who would agree at some of your points: one of my friends is from Mayotte (DOM-TOM) , and is big on panafricanism, and the story and status of the black man. He is French, but will probably some day go back to Mayotte to live there.

The problem is that being after centuries of being foreign territories, people there have also implemented the French mindset. And just were born French. They are as French as someone whose father came from Poland to work in the mines of the North, and was born in France. They live the French culture, they represent it too.

It's like asking Britons from Gibraltar to renounce they britishness. Or people from Malvinas to cease living there. They just won't do it.

Several referendums have been carried in the DOM TOMs. You have for exemple Mauritius, who separated. This shows it is not necessarily because of French papers and that stuff: just that the Mauritius people did not feel enough attachment to France. Martinique, Guadeloupe etc all do. I don't remember any Dom Tom sportsman (except maybe Anelka?) who was not proud of representing France. From Teddy Riner to Thierry Henry...

Now I do agree on slowing down immigration from Africa, in particular. It won't be an easy process though... So that's why I am all for restricting the multiple naturalisations in a sole family, reducing easiness for bringing family from overseas, limiting it only to spouse and kids. Even cracking down on the business visas, making it that only the cream of the crop will get one... Starting from student visas, only take people with excellent grades from their schools, and putting a more restrictive quota on the visas.

The highly skilled business workers in my opinion are not those who are threatening the western countries. For me, it's more those who are living on welfare, and/or pop multiple babies without having contributed equally to the country.


Now, let's talk about the culture. What are the essential aspects of the French culture that only white people carry on?

- Christianism? Atheism is generalizing.

- Too much Islam? Okay, I will give you that one. But pretty much all the muslims I know drink, fuck, and sin a lot. Furthemore, I think it's not really a problem as long as you keep it in your house. The veil in public? A good step was banning the burka (which is a Middle East tradition only). If necessary, I could live with banning the niqab. Since faith is essentially in the heart and how we act.

- Perpetuating french history? I can tell you that most of us, relatively "high-skilled" workers (pardon me for this) know about several stuff of the country that natives don't even know. At the very least we have to learn a bunch of history for the naturalization process, at the prefecture. I have already tried to test the culture of some of my native French pals. Not really great results.

-French cuisine? I can give you that one too. Boeuf Bourguignon or raclette are staples of french food!

Boeuf bourguignon


Raclette



People from the Dom Tom cook these too. I can see why those of African origin won't probably (I can cook these!). However, in general, people here just can't cook anymore (no time, and tacos and pizzas are easier). But hey, they serve these to children at school. You want to ban substitution meals at school? Fine with me. Usually those Muslim families are just to lazy to cook decently anyway. I would gladly make some real food for my kids and myself, if only pork was available.

The spirit of the French Revolution? Revolting against oppression?
I would say that one is lost on the general population anyway, except when it's about going on a strike because of pay cuts, or government reforms.

Carrying a feud against Britons and Italians? We do it too

Racism anti-french, revendicating oneself from another culture? Yeah it is a problem. However Africans are not the only ones doing this. You should have seen the French of portuguese origin from where I leave when Portugal won Euro 2016... I even had a pal of Portugese origin who would always say "eux les Français". I don't see a solution to this. Emmanuel Macron is talking about reinstating mandatory military service of 1 month. Not sure it will help much...

Instaure again law and order at schools, in the famous "banlieus" (surburbs)? I am all for it. However no one is going to risk doing this, and the deaths of Zyed and Bouna in 2005 and the following riots will not make any politician risk anything, even if it was Marine Le Pen (or her bangable niece Marion).

If you have other topics of cultural impediment, I will gladly read them.


Thanks for your comment again.

Post: #160

kaotic Wrote:Men and women don't act or think the same, they also react differently to their environment.

This is why I think men and women vary differently on their inadequacies for marriage, more so on the woman's side than a mans.

What do you mean by "their environment"? Crucially, do you mean a mostly free, uncontrolled environment - which would amplify the differences between men and women OR do you mean a mostly unfree, highly controlled environment - which would diminish the differences between men and women?

I would assert that "their environment" is mostly education, Hollywood media, and news media - which are all highly controlled.

This would mean that both men and women are thinking about marriage/sex/relationships from the same very narrow words and concepts, leading to very few gender differences - especially regarding narcissistic ideals of sex/marriage/relationships.

Post: #161

@kaotic,

For future reference, these are three modes of expressing an opinion.

Expressing an opinion: I don't like sushi.

Expressing an opinion, plus moralizing: I don't like sushi, and anyone who does like sushi has something wrong with them.

Expressing an opinion, plus moralizing, plus political action: I don't like sushi, and anyone who does has something wrong with them, and I refuse to associate with anyone who does.


When you spoke about the White Nationalist teacher in this thread, you expressed your opinion, plus Moralized. If you hadn't Moralized, you wouldn't have been challenged on your opinion.

If you want to assert that you were only expressing your opinion, then you need to remove your moralizing language.

Post: #162

Mikado - of course some francophone-influenced blacks as well as secular North Africans will be more French, but let us not delude things.

You bring Poles into the mix as if it's identical. We also had 10+ mio. of Germans, Poles and Russians coming into the the US in the 19th and early 20th century. Those nationalities integrated fine and assimilated seamlessly being of identical race, similar enough IQ, identical or similar religion. Also they were not too far behind like some illiterate barbarians. That is why you don't feel the 1.5 mio. Ukrainian immigrants in a country like Poland and that is why the old Austro-Hungarian empire could take in huge amounts of Hungarians, Croats, Serbs and Czechs and integrate them well.

In contrast after 3 generations you have mostly un-assimilated Turkish underclass in Germany, in France you have the underclass of the Muslim Northafricans which are creating shitholes within France, now in Germany you have 300.000 crimes perpetrated by the newcomers per year and this won't end. Some cultures and tribes do mix well, some don't.

None of us here will for example ever be Japanese even if we learn Japanese perfectly, adhere perfectly to their customs. Due to the simple race issue at best our sons or grand- or grand-grand-sons might be called Japanese if they all marry Japanese women and they essentially become racially Japanese.

A culture is defined by multiple factors and currently there is a push to destroy all White cultures even in their homecountries. You will see the shitholes that replace the previously created ones and will probably blame racism and shit.

But Diversity is our strength.

Post: #163

(03-08-2018 02:58 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Mikado - of course some francophone-influenced blacks as well as secular North Africans will be more French, but let us not delude things.

You bring Poles into the mix as if it's identical. We also had 10+ mio. of Germans, Poles and Russians coming into the the US in the 19th and early 20th century. Those nationalities integrated fine and assimilated seamlessly being of identical race, similar enough IQ, identical or similar religion. Also they were not too far behind like some illiterate barbarians. That is why you don't feel the 1.5 mio. Ukrainian immigrants in a country like Poland and that is why the old Austro-Hungarian empire could take in huge amounts of Hungarians, Croats, Serbs and Czechs and integrate them well.

In contrast after 3 generations you have mostly un-assimilated Turkish underclass in Germany, in France you have the underclass of the Muslim Northafricans which are creating shitholes within France, now in Germany you have 300.000 crimes perpetrated by the newcomers per year and this won't end. Some cultures and tribes do mix well, some don't.

None of us here will for example ever be Japanese even if we learn Japanese perfectly, adhere perfectly to their customs. Due to the simple race issue at best our sons or grand- or grand-grand-sons might be called Japanese if they all marry Japanese women and they essentially become racially Japanese.

A culture is defined by multiple factors and currently there is a push to destroy all White cultures even in their homecountries. You will see the shitholes that replace the previously created ones and will probably blame racism and shit.

But Diversity is our strength.

You make a lot of sense. And that's why earlier in the thread I said that we needed to have politicians of foreign origin (or at least, people visible in the media) who should push for instillating strong french values in kids, and adults too.

The thing is that most visible minorities are artists or sportsmen, not politicians. And their business flourishes partly by selling vastly to youngsters of foreign origin (or "racailles", the suburb thugs). That's why they will never go out of their way to push French values into the youth.

On the other hand, any minority who goes into politics will join the left, for the same reason those sportsmen and musicians sell their bullshit to people who look like them.

We need more minority politicians in the right, for a start. Then maybe in a few years, in the extreme-right...

Maybe I will go into politics if I become a citizen... Definitely not gonna vote for the Left.


PS: Thank you Zelcorpion, Handsome Creepy Eel, Aurini, Teedub, Tonysandos, and everyone I did not cite, for giving me perspective on several topics such as immigration, religion, foreign policies... But now because of you, I have become the "macho, anti-feminist and anti-Hillary" guy in my whole work+social circle lol. It's funny, on RVF many see me as the "African Muslim" guy, and IRL I am the "macho right-leaning" guy...
I guess, life is complicated!

Post: #164

Mikado I'll add my reply in conjunction with one to Zelcorpion

Truthfully Italians and Poles in America are a separate race to the WASPs. Poles integrated better because they could blend in easier and many unfortunately dropped their religion in trade of Protestantism or atheism. Italians were much more visually distinct and staunch in Catholicism. Funny since Poland is one of the most religious countries in the western world and Italy is religious but less so. Anyway, we are said to be integrated now but keep in mind that it comes at a cost. Basically all of us are new race now of americans. Black americans share much much more in common with us than Europeans depending on which ethnicity we are. They definitely do share the most cultural traits with the WASP native stock and the reverse as well. America is a weird place. We should all probably accept mass assimilation in order to get along if we can't find a way to do it with maintaining ethnic differences. It is the new world after all. Only the religious issue would be left and on that note, the majority of americans don't want islam in position to have affect on law or customs.

As for Europe, the situation is different because that is the source of specific types of peoples. Phenotypes are only look, why does it mater if it is maintained in certain geographic areas? Their historical objects and culture are maintained at these locations. Most native lands have long time familial history there also.

It's unjustice to expect a native phenotype attached to a culture from a specific location to be displaced from that location because that is one's originating homeland. It is the only place an ethnicity of people can make unwavering argument against being displaced. Any other land they inhabit can be considered contested for inhabitance since they don't come from there.

I believe in the idea of homelands being sanctuary for every living culture around down to ethnicity. World government organizations to do to do this somewhat.

Now on the topic of the limits off assimilation, it's obvious that many countries in the west have drawn the line on Islam. For many cultures it does spell out death for long time traditions is you hypothetically bring it under strict Islamic law. Islam is a non-starter for the west and it does not want it in a power position.

Post: #165

(03-08-2018 01:42 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 12:58 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  The presented definition of tradthot is wrong too. It's not simply a woman that asks for money online or a whore. It's a woman that tries to edge out power where she doesn't belong doing so or lay claims that don't belong in a conservative paradigm. A lot of women that are tradthots basically amount to what's best described as racist progressivism. No thanks

You'll never convince me that women don't belong on YouTube, a place with literally (almost) Infinite bandwidth, allowing the entire human population (times 500) to express their views.

Whether White Nationalism is appropriately described as Traditionalism is a separate question, but perusing White Nationalist YouTube videos will weaken an "Absolutely Not" position. In a debate, Nick Fuentes quoted Presidents Jefferson and Lincoln saying some racist, exclusionary shit.

I'm speechless that any man here would knowingly, consciously encourage attention whoring and snowflaking. Mark my words, it's going to blow up in your face.

and no white nationalism is not traditionalism. it's racist liberalism AKA lauren southern can be whore if she wants BUT ONLY FOR WHITE MEN.

Post: #166

(03-08-2018 02:02 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  MMX, why not just cut to the chase and tell us all what Vox Day has to say on the subject?

It's easier to tell you what I think.

I think the debate on race and education shares many similarities with the debate on Gun Control.

The Gun Control debate is now personified by David Hogg, a (probably) homosexual adolescent with no political insight and equally juvenile political proposals. Both the observed cowardice of the Broward County Sheriffs Department and statements such as, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." have created a surge in citizens willing to protect themselves with guns. These self-defenders rhetorically ask, "Why wouldn't you want to carry a gun?" and I would non-rhetorically answer, "Because they possess a weakness of character and mind that make carrying a gun impossible, and/or guns are too expensive for them, and/or they're not convinced that the benefits of self-defense are worth it."

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As far as race and education go, none of you grasp the seriousness of the problem. Buzzfeed doxxing an unashamed White Nationalist didn't solve the problem, because the problem isn't the outspoken bigots: it's the non-outspoken ones, the ones who smile while hiding knives behind their backs. Between the White Nationalists who lower the grades of Black Students, the Black bigots who lower the grades of White Students, and the Cultural Marxists who lower the grades of Trump Supporters, why wouldn't you demand teachers who are the same race as your children?

The same kaotic who realized that arming teachers is a bad idea, because most teachers are Cultural Marxists found it good that Buzzfeed doxxed a White Nationalist teacher and got her fired. Are you seriously going to let BUZZFEED take part in discovering and rooting out racially biased teachers?



Rhetorically this time, why wouldn't you demand teachers who are the same race as your children? I won't fully equate you to David Hogg, so I won't say, "Weakness of mind and character that makes arguing for same race teachers impossible". But I will say that you're all failing to grasp the seriousness of the problem, or you're hoping the problem will pass you by. Or maybe you don't think racial discrimination in education happens all that much, which is fine - as long as you don't let the media influence how much racial discrimination you think there is.

Post: #167

(03-08-2018 04:03 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  The same kaotic who realized that arming teachers is a bad idea, because most teachers are Cultural Marxists found it good that Buzzfeed doxxed a White Nationalist teacher and got her fired. Are you seriously going to let BUZZFEED take part in discovering and rooting out racially biased teachers?

No you idiot, I didn't say that, don't put words in my mouth you word salad troll.

Post: #168

Tony Sandos Wrote:I'm speechless that any man here would knowingly, consciously encourage attention whoring and snowflaking. Mark my words, it's going to blow up in your face.

Complaining that women engage in attention whoring is like complaining that ducks like to be in water, and that women like to beautify themselves. It's in women's nature to seek attention, in duck's nature to love water, and in women's nature to self-beautify.

Tony Sandos Wrote:And no white nationalism is not traditionalism. it's racist liberalism AKA lauren southern can be whore if she wants BUT ONLY FOR WHITE MEN.

I don't think you can discuss White Nationalism and Tradition by pointing out the sexual choices of Lauren Southern.

I think this tactic is so dumb that it means you don't want to seriously discuss White Nationalism and Tradition.

Post: #169

(03-08-2018 04:07 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 04:03 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  The same kaotic who realized that arming teachers is a bad idea, because most teachers are Cultural Marxists found it good that Buzzfeed doxxed a White Nationalist teacher and got her fired. Are you seriously going to let BUZZFEED take part in discovering and rooting out racially biased teachers?

No you idiot, I didn't say that, don't put words in my mouth you word salad troll.

If you believe you were misquoted, you can cut and paste your original quote, so we can all compare the gist of what you said, to the gist of what I said. Calling me a troll because you feel that you were misquoted is an emotionally exaggerated response.

Thanks also for addressing my question of whether it's a good idea to let BUZZFEED discover and root out racially biased teachers. Are you going to deny that you thought it was good that BUZZFEED discovered this White Nationalist teacher and got her fired?

Post: #170

Nope, I'm done trying to have any discussion with you.

You can believe and assume what you want.

Post: #171

Good view on the issue.

And yes - this is outrageous that the story is a prime news topic. That is a total power-demonstration of the elite for all teachers. You better have the right-think or don't show your wrong-think or you are toast.

This story will have the consequence that all conservative Trump teachers will censor their thoughts even more while the cultural marxists can preach all they want about their utopian paradise.

It is one step closer towards Orwell's system.

And on further thought I don't think that her private views matter much. Most teachers have them like assholes. Many test results are hardly able to be manipulated nowadays and can be even questioned easily enough. If some pupils' tests are constantly devalued, then this will come out. How many Antifa supporters are teachers or outright communists? There must be hundreds of thousands or even millions across the entire West.

The bigger problem is the curriculum and now the mainstream media who finds it fair use to fire someone over views uttered on anonymous social media platforms.

Post: #172

(03-08-2018 04:20 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Nope, I'm done trying to have any discussion with you.

You can believe and assume what you want.

I'll quote you from earlier:

kaotic Wrote:Let me put it clearly:
-This chick is a donkey
-There are some thirsty dudes in this thread
-I don't condemn or condone her opinion
-I do think she shouldn't be in a position of teaching students
-Tradthots are a real thing
-Attention whores gonna attention whore

I think the red words indicate that you think it was GOOD that BUZZFEED discovered and rooted out this White Nationalist teacher.

Do you disagree with my inference, meaning that you think it was BAD that BUZZFEED discovered and rooted out this White Nationalist teacher?

Post: #173

Great video Zel, Mark Collett has a questionable past but he does make some excellent content.

Post: #174

Zelcorpion Wrote:Good view on the issue.

And yes - this is outrageous that the story is a prime news topic. That is a total power-demonstration of the elite for all teachers. You better have the right-think or don't show your wrong-think or you are toast.

Background information on the Big Five Personality Traits

Jordan Peterson has mentioned this in a couple of his lectures.

Conservatism is very highly correlated with the Big Five Personality Trait named Consciousness, which can be roughly split into two parts: Hard Work and Order. Order has lot of sub-parts (and I'm probably missing some), but one of them is Hierarchy. Hierarchy also has a lot of sub-parts, but to me the most important sub-part always asks, "Is this better than that?"

Tolerance is the ultimate nemesis of Hierarchy, because Tolerance doesn't want people to ask, "Is this better than that?" - and it really doesn't want people to act as if they know that "this is better than that".

I personally think that if a man claims to be a Conservative, but he cannot meaningfully participate in any Hierarchy-driven discussions, then he's not really a Conservative. I don't care if he voted for Trump, lived peacefully in this country for 40 years, and amassed a small fortune through Hard Work: if he cannot participate in Hierarchy-driven discussions, he is NOT a Conservative.

I also think that Racial Equality and Racial Tolerance are the final forms of anti-Hierarchy that get destroyed. If you can meaningfully participate in a discussion about Segregation (no lies, no insults, no over emotionality), you're fully Conservative. If you can watch an Alternative Hypothesis video without your breathing escalating to 3x speed, you're fully Conservative.

I get that Mikado believes that racial discussions should be de-emphasized in favor of Red Pill discussions, but I think it's the opposite.

A video like this one really helps differentiate between those who can discuss race and those who cannot.





Your video really challenges anyone who thinks that suspending the White Nationalist teacher was a good idea, mostly by subtly asking, "How can you claim to be a Conservative, while thinking that suspending this White Nationalist teacher was a good idea?"

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(03-08-2018 04:32 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 04:20 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Nope, I'm done trying to have any discussion with you.

You can believe and assume what you want.

I'll quote you from earlier:

kaotic Wrote:Let me put it clearly:
-This chick is a donkey
-There are some thirsty dudes in this thread
-I don't condemn or condone her opinion
-I do think she shouldn't be in a position of teaching students
-Tradthots are a real thing
-Attention whores gonna attention whore

I think the red words indicate that you think it was GOOD that BUZZFEED discovered and rooted out this White Nationalist teacher.

Do you disagree with my inference, meaning that you think it was BAD that BUZZFEED discovered and rooted out this White Nationalist teacher?

Come on dude how can you take the time to retype that and not see how ridiculously illogical that inference is?