Post: #26

It only gets nasty if the italian nigerians now retaliate.

Post: #27

(02-03-2018 12:53 PM)8ball Wrote:  The same flaws in that culture that hinders "economic progress" and creates an environment where corruption flourishes is also the greatest obstacle to cultural marxism.

This!

The Southern and Eastern Europeans are low trust societies where the citizens did not bend to the will of the government, and dutifully pay their taxes, etc. This left them vulnerable to the debt crisis, but it has also inoculated them against the elites plans for the great replacement. Greeks, Italians, Poles, Hungarians, and others see what is happening, and say "Dafuq?!".

I actually hold more fears for my country, Australia, where the nanny state reaches its hand into everything, and people are dutiful sheep, obeying laws and trusting the government. ((They)) have been able to get away with the "replacement" because it has been cloaked in the legitimacy of ever increasing property prices and wages. If things turn bad for the economy, I shudder to think what will happen.

Post: #28

Most of you are right.

Actually, as almost everybody knows I am anti Le-Pen, but most of it is really because economically her propositions did not seem really good, and that she cannot propose anything else out of immigration. She got thrashed on that on her debate against Macron. For a country with heavy social policies (welfare, healthcare...), she has to offer more than meets the eye, instead of only saying "French first"! At least Trump had a good record on making wealth and being a succesful guy, whereas Le Pen is only considered as a rich heiress, and a loudmouthed woman.

To have a chance to win, the Front National will have, instead of worrying about a name change, step up the plates on economical issues. And to have a chance for that, Macron's policies will have to fail (at the moment unemployment is more or less stable, and people don't feel as much pressure as during Hollande's presidency, except maybe for retired people, who ought to get their pensions reduced).

I do agree on sending refugees and low IQ people back, however I can't not root (being myself in that case) for people with relatively high IQ who love this country, live life truly as french people, contribute economically and instill the french spirit to their kids (probably, like Cobra on this forum??)

Personally, if I get citizenship (process ongoing), I will probably abstain from voting, or maybe go with the right. Probably not far right, but no way will I go with the left.

Not only will french be the primary language spoken in my home (I actually can't speak well my mother tongues because I only spoke french and watched french movies, instead of senegalese stuff), but also french culture will prevail at home before the senegalese one. Except maybe for some of the cooking recipes!! Damn, Yassa is good!


When you have a meeting to get french citizenship, they ask you a few questions about french history and values. Many people I have interacted with online got the most obvious answers from those who got these earlier, and they did not even care about learning about it. They just parrotted it back at the meeting, and got citizenship because congrats, they can recite a lesson! Pretty angry that someone who doesn't even know about stuff like Marianne or the French Revolution can get citizenship.

Send all the low IQ migrants back!!!!

Post: #29

(02-03-2018 08:39 PM)mikado Wrote:  Most of you are right.

Actually, as almost everybody knows I am anti Le-Pen, but most of it is really because economically her propositions did not seem really good, and that she cannot propose anything else out of immigration. She got thrashed on that on her debate against Macron. For a country with heavy social policies (welfare, healthcare...), she has to offer more than meets the eye, instead of only saying "French first"! At least Trump had a good record on making wealth and being a succesful guy, whereas Le Pen is only considered as a rich heiress, and a loudmouthed woman.

To have a chance to win, the Front National will have, instead of worrying about a name change, step up the plates on economical issues. And to have a chance for that, Macron's policies will have to fail (at the moment unemployment is more or less stable, and people don't feel as much pressure as during Hollande's presidency, except maybe for retired people, who ought to get their pensions reduced).

Economically her propositions did not seem correct and Macron is doing well? What has Macron done that will be seen to be good further down the line?

A country with heavy social welfare responsibilities, like the UK, now Germany and Sweden should know that these responsibilities can never be stopped, reduced or somehow "improved" as politicians sometimes like to say in economic terms.

You know as well as I do that people from these areas where migration is highest are going to keep on coming and they are going to keep on fucking to their hearts content. I would say like rabbits but the population of rabbits is controlled by humans or natural predators.

What is going to make these welfare payments keep coming when tax is already high in france and the unions ever more powerful?

France and the UK live in similar spheres and then they dont but over here we have Labour in waiting and most of the people on normal salaries, welfare and minimum wage are sick of austerity. The situation in france is just a few hours away from being volatile and then full blown riots and protests.

I don't get how you can say Macron has a better economic outlook as a member of this board when you know the facts of who and what he is and the previous French administration.

I'm not a pessemist but I do tend to see things getting worse and not better and as much as I hate to admit it, Western Europe needs to see some serious pain for it to consider any solutions in order to survive the next century.

Lets take the boomer generation as an example. Already care giving and pensions are a mess for many and even my own mother is telling me about her fears about being left alone or struggling financially.

Just how are traditional Western EU natives in gen X, Millennials and eventually Gen Z going to cope with the approaching pension age at the current rate we're seeing? Bearing in mind we are in deep shit now and only financially well off people are doing well.

I don't see some guy and his kin from bumfukistan wanting to pay for my pension or anyone else's. It just doesn't figure into their minds.

Post: #30

(02-03-2018 10:39 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  It's starting to happen.

Of course, it will be blamed on the rise of the Alt-Right and Nazis, and that massive amount of migrants are a superfluous fact that can be ignored.

Election fever and revenge (immigrant murder?), plus an unstable and violent character? Aided by Nazi-ideology (assumed more than proved).

The timing is quite unfortunate for Lega Nord , image wise; can the problem of unassimilable migrants trump the bad optics in the coming election?

Post: #31

Going into the future when ethnic boundaries are inevitably reinstated by blood and steel I think smart nations are going to take a damn hard look at how citizenship is dictated.

It's currently considered a dirty idea to deny citizenship to someone who intends to live in your country, and particularly to deny citizenship to their kids who are born in your country, but that's the way it really has to be.

There is no fundamental ethical difference between giving one Indian immigrant citizenship and giving 1 million Indian immigrants citizenship. Assimilation is a joke. Nobody can measure how readily a group is absorbed or even qualify what "absorbed" means in a technical sense and so no numerical boundaries can be accurately set. What inevitably happens is that you only recognise "too much too soon" when it's already in the rear view mirror.

When most nations are back to being ethnically oriented I think the idea of foreigners becoming citizens will rightly be a thing of the past. Not even international marriage will confer citizenship, and the foreigner of such unions will have no fundamental legal rights to custody of any children if the marriage dissolves. In general, living in a place where you were not born will be a lot more difficult, as it should be.

It's easy to deal with an unruly guest. You just kick them out. But once they have citizenship then your options diminish in the extreme.

Post: #32

(02-03-2018 09:34 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 08:39 PM)mikado Wrote:  Most of you are right.

Actually, as almost everybody knows I am anti Le-Pen, but most of it is really because economically her propositions did not seem really good, and that she cannot propose anything else out of immigration. She got thrashed on that on her debate against Macron. For a country with heavy social policies (welfare, healthcare...), she has to offer more than meets the eye, instead of only saying "French first"! At least Trump had a good record on making wealth and being a succesful guy, whereas Le Pen is only considered as a rich heiress, and a loudmouthed woman.

To have a chance to win, the Front National will have, instead of worrying about a name change, step up the plates on economical issues. And to have a chance for that, Macron's policies will have to fail (at the moment unemployment is more or less stable, and people don't feel as much pressure as during Hollande's presidency, except maybe for retired people, who ought to get their pensions reduced).

Economically her propositions did not seem correct and Macron is doing well? What has Macron done that will be seen to be good further down the line?

A country with heavy social welfare responsibilities, like the UK, now Germany and Sweden should know that these responsibilities can never be stopped, reduced or somehow "improved" as politicians sometimes like to say in economic terms.

You know as well as I do that people from these areas where migration is highest are going to keep on coming and they are going to keep on fucking to their hearts content. I would say like rabbits but the population of rabbits is controlled by humans or natural predators.

What is going to make these welfare payments keep coming when tax is already high in france and the unions ever more powerful?

France and the UK live in similar spheres and then they dont but over here we have Labour in waiting and most of the people on normal salaries, welfare and minimum wage are sick of austerity. The situation in france is just a few hours away from being volatile and then full blown riots and protests.

I don't get how you can say Macron has a better economic outlook as a member of this board when you know the facts of who and what he is and the previous French administration.

I'm not a pessemist but I do tend to see things getting worse and not better and as much as I hate to admit it, Western Europe needs to see some serious pain for it to consider any solutions in order to survive the next century.

Lets take the boomer generation as an example. Already care giving and pensions are a mess for many and even my own mother is telling me about her fears about being left alone or struggling financially.

Just how are traditional Western EU natives in gen X, Millennials and eventually Gen Z going to cope with the approaching pension age at the current rate we're seeing? Bearing in mind we are in deep shit now and only financially well off people are doing well.

I don't see some guy and his kin from bumfukistan wanting to pay for my pension or anyone else's. It just doesn't figure into their minds.

Mikado is just trying to rationalize his support for that Rothschild minion traitor-cuck Macron.

There's way, waaaaayyy too many foreigners in France, from the same places, in a country with structural unemployment issues because of neoliberal policies by Macron's owners who have been sucking out the economic lifeblood of the country and destroying its middle class. One of the first things Macron did was to slap a tax on real estate, and give the ultrawealthy a tax break on their non-real estate assets.



We've always had some minorities in France, but their numbers weren't as massive, and they were well-behaved. Their subcultures have substantially deteriorated, and it's not just a religious issue, look at that Nigerian savage who cannibalized that poor Italian girl, that wasn't a muslim, that was a beast straight out of the Conrad jungle. Half the players on this teams are egotistic shitheads. African players in the past like Tresor or Janvion were total class acts, not the case any more.

Post: #33

(02-03-2018 11:43 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Going into the future when ethnic boundaries are inevitably reinstated by blood and steel I think smart nations are going to take a damn hard look at how citizenship is dictated.

It's currently considered a dirty idea to deny citizenship to someone who intends to live in your country, and particularly to deny citizenship to their kids who are born in your country, but that's the way it really has to be.

There is no fundamental ethical difference between giving one Indian immigrant citizenship and giving 1 million Indian immigrants citizenship. Assimilation is a joke. Nobody can measure how readily a group is absorbed or even qualify what "absorbed" means in a technical sense and so no numerical boundaries can be accurately set. What inevitably happens is that you only recognise "too much too soon" when it's already in the rear view mirror.

When most nations are back to being ethnically oriented I think the idea of foreigners becoming citizens will rightly be a thing of the past. Not even international marriage will confer citizenship, and the foreigner of such unions will have no fundamental legal rights to custody of any children if the marriage dissolves. In general, living in a place where you were not born will be a lot more difficult, as it should be.

It's easy to deal with an unruly guest. You just kick them out. But once they have citizenship then your options diminish in the extreme.

I see where you are coming from.

However the thing is that fondamentally you cannot discriminate based on race. For example, people from Antilles: they were french before even some regions or cities like Savoie, Nice, Corsica...
You have also the people that came in the 60-70s for construction work. They worked their ass off for this country, so that their kids would be french. You want to deny them citizenship?

The only option here is to add more requirements, like: having a long term job, being here for at least 10 years, not relying on welfare, no criminal record, priviledging people invested in association or work with the population, asking tighter and more detailled questions about religion, love of France, and the like.
Instead of relying that much on the questionnaire (president of France, ministers, mayor of your city, naming a few rivers of France, different types of election...), dig deep (Jeff Probst impersonnation) on the real motives for citizenship, and get people to reveal their true colours.

Especially, do that for kids that are about to hit 18 (since they can get citizenship if they were in France for at least the last 5 years). Ban the foreign languages at school. Extreme vetting process for people over 18.

Give priority to people from Christian background (I have no problem with that), like Lebanon or Russia. Conduct more thoroughly police investigations during the citizenship process (instead of just asking the neighbours about how you interact with them). Anyone who cannot speak french fluently must be given a NO. Keep tabs on people up to 5-10 years after they got citizenship.

Of course, most of this would be a bit costly. However I think it's a good start.

Post: #34

(02-04-2018 12:17 AM)911 Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 09:34 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 08:39 PM)mikado Wrote:  Most of you are right.

Actually, as almost everybody knows I am anti Le-Pen, but most of it is really because economically her propositions did not seem really good, and that she cannot propose anything else out of immigration. She got thrashed on that on her debate against Macron. For a country with heavy social policies (welfare, healthcare...), she has to offer more than meets the eye, instead of only saying "French first"! At least Trump had a good record on making wealth and being a succesful guy, whereas Le Pen is only considered as a rich heiress, and a loudmouthed woman.

To have a chance to win, the Front National will have, instead of worrying about a name change, step up the plates on economical issues. And to have a chance for that, Macron's policies will have to fail (at the moment unemployment is more or less stable, and people don't feel as much pressure as during Hollande's presidency, except maybe for retired people, who ought to get their pensions reduced).

Economically her propositions did not seem correct and Macron is doing well? What has Macron done that will be seen to be good further down the line?

A country with heavy social welfare responsibilities, like the UK, now Germany and Sweden should know that these responsibilities can never be stopped, reduced or somehow "improved" as politicians sometimes like to say in economic terms.

You know as well as I do that people from these areas where migration is highest are going to keep on coming and they are going to keep on fucking to their hearts content. I would say like rabbits but the population of rabbits is controlled by humans or natural predators.

What is going to make these welfare payments keep coming when tax is already high in france and the unions ever more powerful?

France and the UK live in similar spheres and then they dont but over here we have Labour in waiting and most of the people on normal salaries, welfare and minimum wage are sick of austerity. The situation in france is just a few hours away from being volatile and then full blown riots and protests.

I don't get how you can say Macron has a better economic outlook as a member of this board when you know the facts of who and what he is and the previous French administration.

I'm not a pessemist but I do tend to see things getting worse and not better and as much as I hate to admit it, Western Europe needs to see some serious pain for it to consider any solutions in order to survive the next century.

Lets take the boomer generation as an example. Already care giving and pensions are a mess for many and even my own mother is telling me about her fears about being left alone or struggling financially.

Just how are traditional Western EU natives in gen X, Millennials and eventually Gen Z going to cope with the approaching pension age at the current rate we're seeing? Bearing in mind we are in deep shit now and only financially well off people are doing well.

I don't see some guy and his kin from bumfukistan wanting to pay for my pension or anyone else's. It just doesn't figure into their minds.

Mikado is just trying to rationalize his support for that Rothschild minion traitor-cuck Macron.

There's way, waaaaayyy too many foreigners in France, from the same places, in a country with structural unemployment issues because of neoliberal policies by Macron's owners who have been sucking out the economic lifeblood of the country and destroying its middle class. One of the first things Macron did was to slap a tax on real estate, and give the ultrawealthy a tax break on their non-real estate assets.



We've always had some minorities in France, but their numbers weren't as massive, and they were well-behaved. Their subcultures have substantially deteriorated, and it's not just a religious issue, look at that Nigerian savage who cannibalized that poor Italian girl, that wasn't a muslim, that was a beast straight out of the Conrad jungle. Half the players on this teams are egotistic shitheads. African players in the past like Tresor or Janvion were total class acts, not the case any more.

Actually during the campaign I made it clear that I was pulling for François Fillon, not Macron. I recognize myself more in the right, than En Marche (which is just a mesh of everything).

And I do disagree with you about some of the players. Someone like Sissoko is of Malian origin, but has always pulled his weight for France. Same as Kanté, or Sagna. On the contrary someone like Griezmann (who is white) was cosplaying as a black basketball player, and acted far more as a mercenary when he tried to go to Manchester United.

The egotistical players aren't so because they are black, they are because they are football players. Pogba is no different than a Ronaldo: both buy expensive cars and claim for a higher salary.

I think you are being confusing race with the general football inflation here. As much as Messi is rich, I don't remember any black player who got flagged for tax evasion, unlike Messi.

Post: #35

The idea of a citizen is a modern invention and the current movement is against modernity. There is the "people" as an ethno-cultural identity, that will last long after any bourgeois nonsense is gone.

Post: #36

(02-04-2018 12:51 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  The idea of a citizen is a modern invention and the current movement is against modernity. There is the "people" as an ethno-cultural identity, that will last long after any bourgeois nonsense is gone.

I think a good marker of assimilation is people naming their kids with French names (I know for exemple several people of Polish ascent who are named Guillaume, Nathalie, Clément, Bastien, Michel...)

I don't plan to have kids, but I could see myself naming them something like Paul, or Alexandre.

Post: #37

Looking at the comments online today it seems like the tide might be turning ......people are getting pissed.

Post: #38

@Mikado

Funny that, when I checked with the social assistance offices in France back in my hobo days to see if I had any chance of getting into French society (I had developed fluency in the language by then as well as becoming familiar with the national culture and history) and the people told me I shouldn't even bother trying.

Post: #39

Well, vendetta is an Italian word after-all.

Post: #40

(02-04-2018 12:21 AM)mikado Wrote:  ...

I see where you are coming from.

However the thing is that fondamentally you cannot discriminate based on race. For example, people from Antilles: they were french before even some regions or cities like Savoie, Nice, Corsica...
You have also the people that came in the 60-70s for construction work. They worked their ass off for this country, so that their kids would be french. You want to deny them citizenship?

The only option here is to add more requirements, like: having a long term job, being here for at least 10 years, not relying on welfare, no criminal record, priviledging people invested in association or work with the population, asking tighter and more detailled questions about religion, love of France, and the like.
Instead of relying that much on the questionnaire (president of France, ministers, mayor of your city, naming a few rivers of France, different types of election...), dig deep (Jeff Probst impersonnation) on the real motives for citizenship, and get people to reveal their true colours.

Especially, do that for kids that are about to hit 18 (since they can get citizenship if they were in France for at least the last 5 years). Ban the foreign languages at school. Extreme vetting process for people over 18.

Give priority to people from Christian background (I have no problem with that), like Lebanon or Russia. Conduct more thoroughly police investigations during the citizenship process (instead of just asking the neighbours about how you interact with them). Anyone who cannot speak french fluently must be given a NO. Keep tabs on people up to 5-10 years after they got citizenship.

Of course, most of this would be a bit costly. However I think it's a good start.

You can absolutely discriminate based on race, and more importantly ethnicity. The French should not even be importing British or vice versa. In fact, it's only decades of propaganda from globalists that has planted the seed of the ridiculous notion otherwise.

People that migrate to other countries don't work their ass off for that country. They work their ass off for themselves because they have a much better life than they otherwise would in their shithole of origin. But that doesn't trigger that sense of entitlement they love, so they convince themselves that the considerably better arrangement they've made for themselves was actually a great sacrifice for the nation they "helped to build", as if it would have wallowed in failure and collapsed without them.

It's a hard truth but SBR was right in the Trump thread. What's the point in having a country if it can be invaded by foreigners just because they're willing to work harder for less than the natives? It's a ridiculous concept foisted on us by multi-national corporations looking to import slaves.

Nobody has a fundamental right to migrate to any other country, much less expect citizenship. Any nation is within it's rights to refuse entry or citizenship for any trite or trivial reason they desire. That's the point of having a nation. You don't answer to outsiders.

Post: #41

(02-03-2018 04:42 PM)Going strong Wrote:  The Italian suspect reportedly was the boyfriend of the young Italian woman who was tortured and dismembered by an African migrant... this African migrant, called Innocent (!) had... eaten the heart and intestines of the young native Italian girl, while performing voodoo. Certainly the Italian grieving boyfriend should have reacted with love, comprehension and inclusion, singing "you will not have my hate" along with MSM...

http://www.iltempo.it/cronache/2018/02/0...o-1048109/

I knew that it was a matter of time before someone whose daughter/girlfriend/sister/wife got hurt - that he would go postal.

This is frankly nothing in terms of a reaction.

What would you do if your girl got dismembered by an enriching cannibal?

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Mikado - Islam cannot be reformed with any grassroots means. It could theoretically be changed if all the Muslim governments from above changed the texts, took the books of Rumi, redid the Quran into the new Quran and threw away 50% of the old Quran, most of the Hadiths and of course the entire biography of Mohammed. Then they would need to enforce it all brutally with military might in the beginning.

Good luck with that!

I think that pigs would fly first.

Nah - Islam will be banned one day on the planet.

The West could save itself by stopping any and all Muslim immigration and various other means. But ever since 9/11 and before it was clear that the globalists intend to use Islam as their rabid dog to destroy the West and usher in an Orwellian nightmare. Sooner or later they will also wipe out the Muslim countries, because they do not allow anyone to exist who does not accept the Brave New World doctrines of promiscuity, state propaganda while working demurely for a loaf of bread.

Post: #42

(02-04-2018 03:41 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 04:42 PM)Going strong Wrote:  The Italian suspect reportedly was the boyfriend of the young Italian woman who was tortured and dismembered by an African migrant... this African migrant, called Innocent (!) had... eaten the heart and intestines of the young native Italian girl, while performing voodoo. Certainly the Italian grieving boyfriend should have reacted with love, comprehension and inclusion, singing "you will not have my hate" along with MSM...

http://www.iltempo.it/cronache/2018/02/0...o-1048109/

I knew that it was a matter of time before someone whose daughter/girlfriend/sister/wife got hurt - that he would go postal.

This is frankly nothing in terms of a reaction.

What would you do if your girl got dismembered by an enriching cannibal?

-----------------

Mikado - Islam cannot be reformed with any grassroots means. It could theoretically be changed if all the Muslim governments from above changed the texts, took the books of Rumi, redid the Quran into the new Quran and threw away 50% of the old Quran, most of the Hadiths and of course the entire biography of Mohammed. Then they would need to enforce it all brutally with military might in the beginning.

Good luck with that!

I think that pigs would fly first.

Nah - Islam will be banned one day on the planet.

The West could save itself by stopping any and all Muslim immigration and various other means. But ever since 9/11 and before it was clear that the globalists intend to use Islam as their rabid dog to destroy the West and usher in an Orwellian nightmare. Sooner or later they will also wipe out the Muslim countries, because they do not allow anyone to exist who does not accept the Brave New World doctrines of promiscuity, state propaganda while working demurely for a loaf of bread.

I would wonder if Quran only Islam would be a substantial improvement over the current Islam.

Post: #43

I would think the opposite to you Zel, Islam for me is the greatest method of population control ever invented. The religion of the Gentiles is gentle in comparison. Islam is my way or the highway, you convert or die (or pay taxes if you're children of the book). Islam's early expansion was down to this population control - fear of God, willing to die in the name of God - the professional armies of the Sassanids and Byzantines did not have this similar belief regardless of whether they outnumbered the arabs. For the evil globalists surely this would be the best method of controlling the population.

Post: #44

(02-03-2018 09:34 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  I don't see some guy and his kin from bumfukistan wanting to pay for my pension or anyone else's. It just doesn't figure into their minds.

Well of course not and that's not part of the plan. What IS part of the plan is for whiteys like us to be outbred and the rest then either killed in the course of a civil race war with religious flavors or simply a slow drip drip drip of marginalization and increasing Islamization until there's nothing left of the nation you once called your home. If you are a European under 50 years old you will not receive a penny in social services if you happen to be so lucky and reach your retirement years.

Post: #45

(02-04-2018 08:13 AM)bojangles Wrote:  I would think the opposite to you Zel, Islam for me is the greatest method of population control ever invented. The religion of the Gentiles is gentle in comparison. Islam is my way or the highway, you convert or die (or pay taxes if you're children of the book). Islam's early expansion was down to this population control - fear of God, willing to die in the name of God - the professional armies of the Sassanids and Byzantines did not have this similar belief regardless of whether they outnumbered the arabs. For the evil globalists surely this would be the best method of controlling the population.

Yeah - but Islam has other terrible weaknesses that let every country without superior culture's input devolve into medieval low-IQ shitholes. The globalists are a different kind of breed. Also some tenets of Islam are contrary to where they want to go - promiscuity vs stable families, feminism vs patriarchy, stable families. Nah - it's a medieval war dog used for the goals of the globalists.

Besides - the Christian dominated cultures were not so gentle. This came only after WWII. They were authoritarian totalitarian shitlords for millennia.

And of course Islam is an excellent war cult designed to spread via warfare in a medieval culture. But their strengths also mark their massive weaknesses. They are incompatible with any culture beyond an 18th century technological advancement. The slavery part already would hold them back, add to it cousin-fucking, inbreeding, Ramadan-fasting for pregnant women, low vitamin D for women in their lifetimes, anti-technology and anti-science basis (everything is in the Quran) and you are left with a medieval system that is design to spread only in the middle ages, but not further. If it had ever won in the world, then in 50.000 years then the whole mankind would be still drinking camel piss while living like in the 15th century. Praising them is like praising the Mongols and thinking what would happen if they had ridden across the entire world. Yeah - great - we would be living in fucking yurts and would be burning dry horse-shit for heat in the year 2017.

Post: #46

(02-04-2018 12:30 AM)mikado Wrote:  Economically her propositions did not seem correct and Macron is doing well? What has Macron done that will be seen to be good further down the line?

A country with heavy social welfare responsibilities, like the UK, now Germany and Sweden should know that these responsibilities can never be stopped, reduced or somehow "improved" as politicians sometimes like to say in economic terms.

I agree that Fillon would have been least bad. Le Pen was more far left economically then Jeremy Corbyn.

Welfare makes it easier to exist without integration and focus on babymaking. When an immigrant needs to learn the local language and earn local qualifications to support their lifestyle, they'll have to step out of their immigrant bubble.

Post: #47

In a world of compromise some men don't. Unfortunately those savages just learn by force. Their socialisation is a way more brute then the one of the average European and at some point you can't "integrate" them or any of this bullshit. Just when beaten like dogs they will learn that Europe is not their home. Its up to you and me to make an unhostile environment to them. At the moment the illegals bitch about racism when they have to pay a ride for the bus or don't get fresh new sneakers or pussy.
They have to learn far worse. We have to tighten our hearts and never forget the illegals are the tools. The true enemy is the traitors among us. The Elite politician, the journalist with the good intention or the girl that volunteer at a refugee camp.

Post: #48

Has it been mentioned that France has a thriving welfare sub-culture?
Basically your average french crusty works for the minimum required time to be able to qualify for unemployment benefits. Then has to show up once or twice per month at pole emploi to have an interview with their assigned social assistant and say "I still haven't found a job". All this equals 400 euros per month (amount could change as having been out o the scene for a while now)

Post: #49

(02-04-2018 04:47 PM)Elster Wrote:  Has it been mentioned that France has a thriving welfare sub-culture?
Basically your average french crusty works for the minimum required time to be able to qualify for unemployment benefits. Then has to show up once or twice per month at pole emploi to have an interview with their assigned social assistant and say "I still haven't found a job". All this equals 400 euros per month (amount could change as having been out o the scene for a while now)

Out of the welfare sub-culture scene?

Post: #50

Roughly

No kids : 545,48 euros ;
One kid : 818,22 euros ;
Two kids : 981,86 euros ;
Each supplementary kid : 218,19 euros

Macron has announced more severe controls, however that is yet to happen.

I do agree though that welfare is distributed too easily.