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It might not. A feature of the Play store is whether your device is compatible or not. I can't use any of the apps for the Tango phones on my phone, for instance.
09-06-2017 09:46 AM
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Has anyone here had a full time job offer with visa sponsorship abroad?

I've been working in Australia as a foreigner.
My visa is going to expire in next year, and I'm thinking about moving to somewhere, instead of finding a job & visa sponsor here.

I sometimes hear that programmers are demanded in many countries, and that it's (somewhat) easier to find a programmer job with sponsorship than other type of jobs.
Do you guys think this is true?
Getting a job may not be too hard if you have an experience, but getting a visa is far more difficult, I think.

I'd like to hear your opinions.
10-14-2017 01:15 PM
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When you're a programmer, you don't accept jobs. It's a trap. A programmer's "SMV" is too high for that. Do freelancing.
10-15-2017 11:11 AM
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(10-15-2017 11:11 AM)rajabat89 Wrote:  When you're a programmer, you don't accept jobs. It's a trap. A programmer's "SMV" is too high for that. Do freelancing.

Thanks for your advice, but I'm not really sure whether freelancing is better than being an employee.

To be a freelancer, you have to not only have solid skill sets, but also learn other things, such as marketing, managing finances, building social network and so on.
This mean that you can not fully focus on developing your coding skills and knowledge, right?
10-18-2017 05:41 AM
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I don't know for english speaking countries, but for my country in Europe, there are freelance website dedicated to freelancers of my country. All I have to do is post my profile on the website, and wait for the calls, then close them. It's that easy, and I put my rate around 300-400 euros / day. That goes without to say, don't use Upwork and such, it's for slaves.

About the "solid skill sets", yes you'd better have engineering knowledge unless you don't mind delivering indian-quality products. But with good stackoverflow-foo, it's fine, at least for me.
10-18-2017 07:34 AM
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(10-18-2017 07:34 AM)rajabat89 Wrote:  All I have to do is post my profile on the website, and wait for the calls, then close them. It's that easy, and I put my rate around 300-400 euros / day.

So, if you're going to spend 10 days a month, will your monthly income be 3-4k euros?
If you stay in a county like Ukraine, you can save most of it.
Honestly, that sounds too good to be true...

(10-18-2017 07:34 AM)rajabat89 Wrote:  About the "solid skill sets", yes you'd better have engineering knowledge unless you don't mind delivering indian-quality products. But with good stackoverflow-foo, it's fine, at least for me.

Would you mind if I ask you whether you do your work by yourself?
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by saying "stackoverflow-foo", but I'm now kind of considering freelancing...
10-25-2017 05:22 AM
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Thing is, that to make a living from freelancing in Western country, one must have very "desired" skill. IT is the leader in this field obviously, but even though rajabat89 must be really skilled for people to come to him. If you are on this level, you will have no problem finding a well-paid job for a company, that will allow you remote job as well most likely.
Otherwise, if you are average or below average, there will be simply too many people who can do your job as well, but will charge a lot less.
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(10-18-2017 05:41 AM)YMD Wrote:  
(10-15-2017 11:11 AM)rajabat89 Wrote:  When you're a programmer, you don't accept jobs. It's a trap. A programmer's "SMV" is too high for that. Do freelancing.

Thanks for your advice, but I'm not really sure whether freelancing is better than being an employee.

To be a freelancer, you have to not only have solid skill sets, but also learn other things, such as marketing, managing finances, building social network and so on.
This mean that you can not fully focus on developing your coding skills and knowledge, right?

I think it's more about the difference between committing yourself to one opportunity full-time as an employee vs. staying mobile and being able to accept multiple opportunities as a freelancer/contractor/consultant.
10-25-2017 07:30 AM
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stackoverflow-foo means solving problems querying stackoverflow.

I come from a top engineering school of my country. I did 5 years of serious studies, then worked less than 1 year in an office (fucking sucked, but I gained some useful skills there). After that I dismissed them and started to work for myself.

No, that's not too good to be true. The average rate in my 1st-world country is 400-450 euros. IT is in high demand + we speak a non-english language, so we don't have all the Indians and EE stealing our clients. I have a well designed profile on my country's "language-niche" freelance websites, and put a link to my personal website + portfolios of my small projects. I paid $100 for a professional photography of myself.

"So, if you're going to spend 10 days a month, will your monthly income be 3-4k euros?"
Yes. But I also need time to hone my mobile skills (just learned them this year), communication with the client, making my personal website... For the moment I do around 40-50% of actual paid work. But yeah, when you have all in place, I think you can expect to do 80% of paid work, and the 20% will be communication and evolving your skills.

"you will have no problem finding a well-paid job for a company, that will allow you remote job as well most likely."
I don't like working for people, I don't like having fixed hours. Anyway, remote working is mostly with US companies. A lot rarer in Europe.
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(10-25-2017 07:46 AM)rajabat89 Wrote:  No, that's not too good to be true. The average rate in my 1st-world country is 400-450 euros. IT is in high demand + we speak a non-english language, so we don't have all the Indians and EE stealing our clients. I have a well designed profile on my country's "language-niche" freelance websites, and put a link to my personal website + portfolios of my small projects.

So, you're in a first world non-English speaking country where you don't compete with Indian and Eastern European programmers (including Russians, I suppose), right?
It sounds like a very sweet place for freelancers...
10-25-2017 04:12 PM
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It´s not so much programming, but I am creating website and I need help with php.
I don´t know much about php and I only use this simple script to load the content of pages in div (in example it´s only p).
The problem is, that content I want to be on main page loads after clicking on Home. But when I first load website (just index.php), content div is empty.

Quote:<div id="menu">
<a href="index.php?page=home"> Home </a>
<a href="index.php?page=second">Second page </a>
<a href="index.php?page=kontakt">Contact </a>
</div>

PHP Code:
<class="p">
       <?
php
         $obsah 
file_get_contents('folder/' $_GET['page'] . '.html');
echo 
$obsah;
      
?>
</p> 

Thanks you for your help.

EDIT: I found solution

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(10-25-2017 06:08 AM)teddy bear Wrote:  Thing is, that to make a living from freelancing in Western country, one must have very "desired" skill.

..but even though rajabat89 must be really skilled for people to come to him. If you are on this level, you will have no problem finding a well-paid job for a company, that will allow you remote job as well most likely.
Otherwise, if you are average or below average, there will be simply too many people who can do your job as well, but will charge a lot less.

Agreed.
This is why I'm concerned about developing my skills rather than making money.

How come rajabat89 is banned...
10-26-2017 04:30 PM
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How do you guys keep your eyesight healthy?

My eyes always feel tired after a few hours of coding and it usually takes a couple of days to go back to normal.

I've tried staring away for 30 seconds every few minutes but it barely works at all.

I've also changed the background colors of my text editor to darker ones but I don't think it helps much.

I use a 2013 hp laptop, is it any better to use a mac? Would a bigger monitor help?

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11-04-2017 01:21 PM
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(11-04-2017 01:21 PM)Gopnik Wrote:  I use a 2013 hp laptop, is it any better to use a mac? Would a bigger monitor help?

Most laptop panels are terrible, especially older ones. If you can adjust the refresh rate, check that out, but I'd suggest getting a separate one. At the very least, having the monitor a foot from your face is just hard on most people and even a separate keyboard and mouse will help you push it away from you.

I used to work from dual monitors, but I have an LG ultra-wide and could look at it all day. I use a full-size keyboard and mouse, with the display at the back of my desk, almost three feet away from my face.

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Keep the screen 60 cm away from your face, there are regulations/recommendations for that. Adjust your screen to your needs:
- color temperature (warm red to bright 9300K)
- screen brightness (high, to avoid getting mentally tired, but not too high--> eye tiring)
- switch off other sources of bright light in the room you are working in or try indirect lightning, having two different levels of light intensity makes it impossible for the eye to adjust correctly. (alternative, adjust your screen brightness up to the level of the environment)

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Thanks for the tips. I've installed f.lux and also increased a lot the font size on notepad++ and it's much better now. I still take breaks everynow and then but my eyes don't feel as tired.

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11-05-2017 08:04 PM
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I posted in the Bumble thread asking if anyone could write a script to auto-swipe. Is this possible? The amount of time it would save me would be incredible. There would be no need for an automated message or anything, since on bumble only the chicks can message first.


What kind of time / resources would this take? I'm serious about this and would throw some money at it.
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Im curious what everyone thinks is hot in programming these days..post your thoughts
11-22-2017 10:25 PM
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(11-22-2017 10:25 PM)godzilla Wrote:  Im curious what everyone thinks is hot in programming these days..post your thoughts

Machine learning applications and tensorflow seems to be quite prevalent. Also, blockchain applications that go beyond ICOs and into useable infrastructure.

As for what I'm currently working on, I'm really hammering python because I feel that it is generally where machine/deep learning are headed (both heavily utilize python currently) and am looking into a backend language to replace PHP; Django or Flask seem like pretty solid frameworks.

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If anyone's interested in learning Java then you can check out the humble bundle for $15 for 15 O'reilly Books at https://www.humblebundle.com/books/java-books . I know i know you could get them at the usual sources but it's really cheap now and it's pretty comprehensive IMO. Available for the next 9 days or so.
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Finally, I have come back. Life, what can you do...


So...two weeks ago, I have decided to take programming. I have decided to get started with JavaScript. Eventually, I will take HTML and CSS courses as well (have some knowledge of them, thanks Uni) once I get proficient with JavaScript.


I have started with Khan academy, because I had opened an account there 2 years ago. Once I finish it, I am planning to repeat everything I have learned in other free courses, and, eventually, in some paid course.


So, the questions are as follows:



(1) Is there a demand for website developers (good ones)? I have noticed that JavaSript is a very popular, and in demand language (top 3). Is there a saturation in the market because of that (due to cheap Asian labor)?


(2) For JavaScript, I have heard it is best to use the JQuery standard of JavaScript, due to browser compatibility. Is that true? Are there better options than JQuery around?


(3) Once I finish with JavaScript for good, I plan to learn an additional language. Everyone seems to be in favor of Python. Now...is the Python market over saturated due to the fact that it is number one programming language at the moment (thanks, India!)?


(4)And finally, which languages are, in your opinion, besides JavaScript and Python, in demand (I have heard that Go is popular)?



Thanks in advance!

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You should learn html and css before you learn javascript, because it's mostly used to manipulate those.
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(11-26-2017 08:39 AM)Irenicus Wrote:  Finally, I have come back. Life, what can you do...


So...two weeks ago, I have decided to take programming. I have decided to get started with JavaScript. Eventually, I will take HTML and CSS courses as well (have some knowledge of them, thanks Uni) once I get proficient with JavaScript.


I have started with Khan academy, because I had opened an account there 2 years ago. Once I finish it, I am planning to repeat everything I have learned in other free courses, and, eventually, in some paid course.


So, the questions are as follows:



(1) Is there a demand for website developers (good ones)? I have noticed that JavaSript is a very popular, and in demand language (top 3). Is there a saturation in the market because of that (due to cheap Asian labor)?


(2) For JavaScript, I have heard it is best to use the JQuery standard of JavaScript, due to browser compatibility. Is that true? Are there better options than JQuery around?


(3) Once I finish with JavaScript for good, I plan to learn an additional language. Everyone seems to be in favor of Python. Now...is the Python market over saturated due to the fact that it is number one programming language at the moment (thanks, India!)?


(4)And finally, which languages are, in your opinion, besides JavaScript and Python, in demand (I have heard that Go is popular)?



Thanks in advance!

Agree with above, HTML and CSS before Javascript. Secondly, if you're looking to find a job out of this, I would learn a back-end language before Javascript.

These are my observations from what I hear and hear from people that I talk to. I'm pretty new to the industry and certainly not an expert.

To answer your questions,

1. Web Developers are not in demand. Overseas labor and there are also plenty of entry-level coders because of Bootcamps. However, salaries are overall still ok and a lot of people have fucked up their apps by using Indian code, so you can always fix someone else's fuckups.

2. Forget JQuery, don't bother. If you needed it in the future, you could always learn it quickly if you know Javascript. Learn a javascript framework/library. Angular, React, Vue or Ember. Angular is most popular. Vue is growing the fastest and React is the best of both.

3. Python is not oversaturated in America. Most of the Bootcamps teach Node or Ruby on Rails. And PHP is still very popular if you want to develop websites. The back-end language you want to learn should depend on what you want to do. Python, for example, is popular for Data science while Ruby is popular for web apps.

4. Javascript and Python are growing. However, so is Go, Elixir, Scala and Swift, though not as popular. Python is a good beginner language because it has a very easy syntax (easier than Ruby def), really good documentation and there's plenty of StackOverflow help. There also plenty of python groups in major cities.
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Quote:(3) Once I finish with JavaScript for good, I plan to learn an additional language. Everyone seems to be in favor of Python. Now...is the Python market over saturated due to the fact that it is number one programming language at the moment (thanks, India!)?

Python is popular because it's easy to learn but still very useful to professionals. It's also a good language to use as an exploratory tool for learning about other important technologies, like the OS or databases.

As for other languages, yes Go is very popular and does many things well. It's a compiled language (like C and C++), oriented around simplifying developer workflow and generating statically-linked binary applications. Go is designed for you to be able to easily download whatever libraries you need, write your program, and then compile it into a single executable file that you can distribute. I definitely recommend at least doing "Hello, World" in Go, if for no other reason than to have the experience of compiling your source code to a binary executable, something that you aren't likely to do with either Python or Javascript.

Quote:(4)And finally, which languages are, in your opinion, besides JavaScript and Python, in demand (I have heard that Go is popular)?

At some point, especially in terms of demand, I think you'll find diminishing returns from focusing on programming languages. Employers want someone who understands the relationship between technology and solving valuable problems. Any non-trivial web application will have many components working together. Technology like Memcached, RabbitMQ, or Postgres usually have APIs in many different languages. Once you know how the tool itself works it's usually fairly straightforward to interface with it from any popular programming language. (Those tools I mentioned are more back-end tools. I don't have a lot of experience on the front-end)

There's also Math/statistical languages like R and Matlab (or Octave. They are gaining popularity in the Machine Learning space.

Also, I have no personal experience developing mobile apps but learning a language that can target android or iOS is probably valuable.
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Yea I would definitely have to agree you need to develop back end skill first before you get to front end stuff like javascript. Pythons a well socially connected language and easy syntactically, but many languages are useful depending on what you want to do, for example C/C++ are the common engineering languages, python for ai and data management, java for data and apps, SQL for back end, R for statistical analysis. but just get started with a nice easy object oriented language like python.

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