Post: #26

^^Those types exist here too, but nowhere near the number per capita as China I'd imagine. They're hiding out in every Asian country. Have run into them or been around them in Cambodia, nothing but bitching.

Post: #27

(11-13-2017 08:40 PM)Super_Fire Wrote:  ^^Those types exist here too, but nowhere near the number per capita as China I'd imagine. They're hiding out in every Asian country. Have run into them or been around them in Cambodia, nothing but bitching.

I figured they exist all over Asia. Being inside of low-trust cultures like China for too long can just drive you up a wall, especially if your only connection to the culture is through a revolving door of randos.

Post: #28

(11-13-2017 08:30 PM)Fortis Wrote:  The Hateful, Fallen Expat

I'm not sure if you encounter these guys in other asian countries but China is full of these guys. They hate absolutely everything and have been in China for a long time. They usually speak really great Chinese but are just so damn salty about everything that you wonder where the truth and fiction of their story begins and ends.

I deem them fallen because they're usually from strong backgrounds. They arrived in China with little or nothing, built themselves up from the ground up through sweat equity, but they absolutely hate china with a passion despite having pretty solid lifestyles.

There's also the contrary, the Gone-Native Expat. Loves everything about his (chosen or assigned by fate) new country, has been there for years, refuses to discuss or downplays negative aspects, speaks the language fluently, hates the cucked feminist Western country he was born in. Those are very interesting people to meet indeed, they have the keys you might want, for the country they've moved to.

Post: #29

(11-13-2017 08:47 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:30 PM)Fortis Wrote:  The Hateful, Fallen Expat

I'm not sure if you encounter these guys in other asian countries but China is full of these guys. They hate absolutely everything and have been in China for a long time. They usually speak really great Chinese but are just so damn salty about everything that you wonder where the truth and fiction of their story begins and ends.

I deem them fallen because they're usually from strong backgrounds. They arrived in China with little or nothing, built themselves up from the ground up through sweat equity, but they absolutely hate china with a passion despite having pretty solid lifestyles.

There's also the contrary, the Gone-Native Expat. Loves everything about his (chosen or assigned by fate) new country, has been there for years, refuses to discuss or downplays negative aspects, speaks the language fluently, hates the cucked feminist Western country he was born in. Those are very interesting people to meet indeed, they have the keys you might want, for the country they've moved to.

I actually found out I have a distant, full-native relative in China. She's impossible to talk to because she's soooooo Chinese now despite being born and raised in America. I spoke to her once and was like, "welp, this is definitely gonna be the last time I deal with her."

She's interesting, though, because she moved abroad and is fully immersed in China in a way that most black female expats aren't.

That said, I find her to be as boring as the local Chinese are. Very, very narrow viewpoints on things that I can't vibe with and a curious lack of knowledge (like you said) on certain negative points.

Post: #30

(11-13-2017 08:55 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:47 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:30 PM)Fortis Wrote:  The Hateful, Fallen Expat

I'm not sure if you encounter these guys in other asian countries but China is full of these guys. They hate absolutely everything and have been in China for a long time. They usually speak really great Chinese but are just so damn salty about everything that you wonder where the truth and fiction of their story begins and ends.

I deem them fallen because they're usually from strong backgrounds. They arrived in China with little or nothing, built themselves up from the ground up through sweat equity, but they absolutely hate china with a passion despite having pretty solid lifestyles.

There's also the contrary, the Gone-Native Expat. Loves everything about his (chosen or assigned by fate) new country, has been there for years, refuses to discuss or downplays negative aspects, speaks the language fluently, hates the cucked feminist Western country he was born in. Those are very interesting people to meet indeed, they have the keys you might want, for the country they've moved to.

I actually found out I have a distant, full-native relative in China. She's impossible to talk to because she's soooooo Chinese now despite being born and raised in America. I spoke to her once and was like, "welp, this is definitely gonna be the last time I deal with her."

She's interesting, though, because she moved abroad and is fully immersed in China in a way that most black female expats aren't.

That said, I find her to be as boring as the local Chinese are. Very, very narrow viewpoints on things that I can't vibe with and a curious lack of knowledge (like you said) on certain negative points.

Very narrow viewpoints on things and a curious lack of knowledge: she's gone full-native German, not Chinese.

Post: #31

(11-13-2017 09:21 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:55 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:47 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:30 PM)Fortis Wrote:  The Hateful, Fallen Expat

I'm not sure if you encounter these guys in other asian countries but China is full of these guys. They hate absolutely everything and have been in China for a long time. They usually speak really great Chinese but are just so damn salty about everything that you wonder where the truth and fiction of their story begins and ends.

I deem them fallen because they're usually from strong backgrounds. They arrived in China with little or nothing, built themselves up from the ground up through sweat equity, but they absolutely hate china with a passion despite having pretty solid lifestyles.

There's also the contrary, the Gone-Native Expat. Loves everything about his (chosen or assigned by fate) new country, has been there for years, refuses to discuss or downplays negative aspects, speaks the language fluently, hates the cucked feminist Western country he was born in. Those are very interesting people to meet indeed, they have the keys you might want, for the country they've moved to.

I actually found out I have a distant, full-native relative in China. She's impossible to talk to because she's soooooo Chinese now despite being born and raised in America. I spoke to her once and was like, "welp, this is definitely gonna be the last time I deal with her."

She's interesting, though, because she moved abroad and is fully immersed in China in a way that most black female expats aren't.

That said, I find her to be as boring as the local Chinese are. Very, very narrow viewpoints on things that I can't vibe with and a curious lack of knowledge (like you said) on certain negative points.

Very narrow viewpoints on things and a curious lack of knowledge: she's gone full-native German, not Chinese.

Trust me. It describes your Chinese person to a T. I don't wanna turn this into a China bash, though.

Post: #32

(11-13-2017 09:25 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 09:21 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:55 PM)Fortis Wrote:  That said, I find her to be as boring as the local Chinese are. Very, very narrow viewpoints on things that I can't vibe with and a curious lack of knowledge (like you said) on certain negative points.

Very narrow viewpoints on things and a curious lack of knowledge: she's gone full-native German, not Chinese.

Trust me. It describes your Chinese person to a T. I don't wanna turn this into a China bash, though.

That statement describes nearly everyone you'll meet on the planet earth.

Post: #33

(11-13-2017 02:43 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  This is some funny ass stories you guys got there. Although Im sure if they are decently attractive and showed any interest in the local populace they could grab some attention quite easily.

That's the thing. I actually trolled the girl I was out with saying "Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of Vietnamese guys who would take you out". The thing is 9/10 of these girls won't date an asian guy and that's the reason they can't get anyone. They have to compete with the local girls for the western guys giving them options which are slim to none unless they are 8+ (they never are).

Post: #34

(11-12-2017 01:16 AM)yankeetravels Wrote:  Fempats- To put it simply, these are western girls or to the extreme upper class girls that travel abroad to somewhere their value drops. Some still act entitled and don't realize the situation, other girls realize it and become bitter, some don't care and still keep the western attitude, and little may adapt to their environment. Positives can be that if you're into western girls, it can potentially make it easier to hook up with them abroad. Negatives can be they can be the most direct reminder of why you left your homeland in the first place.

A slutty fempat weights in.

Quote:Dating in Taiwan is tough.

I’ve dated around considerably more than I ever did in Poland, but the most dates I had with any one guy was four, and that was two too many.

When comparing the quality of Expats in Poland to Taiwan, Poland wins hands down. The Expats I met in Poland were significantly better educated, as a group. Doctors, lawyers, Indian Chiefs, you name it, Poland had it.

In Taiwan there are primarily three categories of English-speaking foreigners.

The first group, English teachers, have by far the worst reputations. The buxiban system of education in Taiwan has a life of its own. English teachers are in high demand in Taiwan both in the public schools and in Buxibans. No experience or teaching certifications are required to teach in most Buxibans, yet the money is good. Life here is easy for the foreign teacher. The Taiwanese are friendly, helpful and nice. Many of them are intensely curious about Westerners. The money is good. The teaching schedule is light compared with many other jobs. And, if you’re a male, the women are fascinated with you. All this attracts a certain type of Western male. Basically, the ones that are attracted to a life of ease without having to work for it. You see a lot of men here that couldn’t hack it in the West. Couldn’t get the jobs, couldn’t get the girls, couldn’t get the life. They drift over here like so much trash because its easy here, and unfortunately, here they stay.

The second group, students, are also numerous and live a charmed life. This population is varied, exciting, young, eager, and usually significantly more motivated and intelligent. This population can be but doesn’t have to be rife with men fascinated by Asian culture. The majority of foreign students are here to study Chinese. A predisposition toward the culture is inherent. There are many students who do study other topics, but they are not predominant. Most students come for a year, two, and their focus is their studies. I’m sure there are students hooking up all over the place, with Taiwanese girls and with each other, but again, this is a bit of a lark for most. A break from their permanent lives in the West.

The third group, are the American and British Born Chinese. They are called ABCs and BBCs. They have their own society and culture. Although thoroughly Westernized they retain their Asian family upbringing. They are often more shy when it comes to approaching women than your typical American white guy. They are often well-educated, well raised and here to explore their roots. Most that I have met are very respectful of women, and frankly, I find many of them to be quite attractive. But, as a friend or two have told me, they stick to their own, and they are significantly less likely to make the first move. Very annoying.

Men have no problem dating in Taiwan. If it’s not one woman, than its three falling all over themselves to get a Western man. They’re as much of a status object here as they are in Poland. More, truth be told. You could be the nastiest, scummiest, loserish bit of crap in your home country, yet, if you’re a man, here you’re treated like a movie star.

For Western women on the other hand…good luck. I haven’t found any that’s for sure.

I’ve been on any number of dates at this point and no success. The Western guys aren’t interested for the most part. Those that are rarely look for commitment.

Quote:The problems with dating are many. Taiwanese men are very shy and timid when it comes to Western women. They are very afraid to approach us, and generally, most will not. Taiwanese dating culture is very different from the west. In fact, most of my Taiwanese friends agree that there IS no dating culture in Taiwan. Couples get together by hanging out in large groups of friends, or often meet at work, through other social acquaintances, or their parents. The concept of going out on a date with someone relatively unknown is foreign to the Taiwanese lifestyle.

But I thought that you wanted commitment? Why is it so hard for you to go through the trouble of building a solid relationship slowly and respectfully with a decent man who doesn't chase slutty whores?

Quote:Therefore, the flirting, the texting, the dating, the random hook ups, friend with benefit arrangements, and the whole culture that revolves around a Western dating lifestyle is lost on Taiwanese men.

So, what you are saying is that you aren't getting the free attention and ego boosts that you feel you deserve?

Quote:Ultimately, the cultural gap is just too big for most Western women. Seriously, what would you do if it worked out? The expected role for a woman in Taiwan is considerably different, both in society and in the home, than for Westerners. What self-respecting Western woman would allow herself to become subsumed into male and family dominated Taiwanese culture? Who wants to be treated like a second class citizen after being raised to be a first?

Not this girl.

Like Poland, a Western woman must quickly realize that the majority of the Taiwanese male population simply isn’t for her. That leaves the Expats. Here we circle back to quality and quantity. Quantity should be self-explanatory. We are a minority. I’m sorry, but the quality of the Western men is not like it is in Europe. You have to sort through a lot of riffraff to meet anyone of quality. When you do, you’re fighting an uphill battle against their Asian fascination, transient lifestyle, and general lack of commitment.

Quote:I won’t say that all Western men are like that here. I do have a lot of male friends that I respect and care about that I do not lump into that category. But it is still the vast majority.

And you simply aren't desirable enough to attract one of the ones you feel entitled to.

Quote:If you’re 23, great. Come over here and stay for a year or two. It will be the time of your life. When you’re thirty though, and have an urge to settle down. Reconsider.

Whatever kind of man you’re looking for, if it involves commitment of any kind, even short-term, you’ll be hard-pressed to find it.

Here's the sexy little heartbreaker herself:

Post: #35

(11-14-2017 09:24 PM)Suits Wrote:  Here's the sexy little heartbreaker herself:

The (entitled, and sad) being above can get herself fucked in Western Europe or the US (lands of high thirst), or even in EE by some drunk gopnik, but has zero chance of getting dicked in Asia. Except by a professional male prostitute on a Bali beach that is.

If I were a woman with an under-8 rating, and I'd arrive at an Asian airport (except PP), I would have a look around me, see the local female competition, sigh, and board the next plane out.

Just like when I do a stopover in Praga and see at the airport a bloody ton of young-tall-extremely handsome-Alpha confident dudes with social circles and their gorgeous EE chicks (whom they've known and gamed since high school, good luck stealing them) on-lock: I just leave.

One has to understand when the competition around one is too hard, and look for greener pastures.

Post: #36

(11-14-2017 09:39 PM)Going strong Wrote:  The (entitled, and sad) being above can get herself fucked in Western Europe or the US (lands of high thirst), or even in EE by some drunk gopnik, but has zero chance of getting dicked in Asia. Except by a professional male prostitute on a Bali beach that is.

Here is the thing. If fempats want do go to another country, whether it's Asia, Latin America, or Africa... they must be prepared to date the local guys. Otherwise they are in a situation where they have 2,000 men to pick from, while those men have 10 million women. They have to be idiots to even complain about this. I mean it is so obvious a situation that fempats who complain about it cannot have fully functioning brains.

Funny thing is that when I read the blogs like this... I see the ones in Africa or Latin America often complain about dating locals too. Which is mind boggling, because if you think about it... these bitches would rather get raw dogged by some AIDS riddled hobo in Africa than date a middle class Chinese man.

I think this should provide a huge insight into how powerful the media is in determining female attraction. I mean when was the last time you saw a Chinese guy play the romantic lead opposite a western woman?

Post: #37

These fempats stories got me dying, I know the stereotype all to well. In Hong Kong there were a ton of them, and they were truly stuck in a bubble - the local guys might as well have not existed to these women.

Post: #38

As I always say (and there's more to this), "Know who you are and where you are."

That woman is a 5. A lot of women are 5s, so it's not a put down.

Here's what so many of these threads come down to: Who's telling her that she's not a 5?

Post: #39

(11-14-2017 09:39 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 09:24 PM)Suits Wrote:  Here's the sexy little heartbreaker herself:

The (entitled, and sad) being above can get herself fucked in Western Europe or the US (lands of high thirst), or even in EE by some drunk gopnik, but has zero chance of getting dicked in Asia. Except by a professional male prostitute on a Bali beach that is.

If I were a woman with an under-8 rating, and I'd arrive at an Asian airport (except PP), I would have a look around me, see the local female competition, sigh, and board the next plane out.

Just like when I do a stopover in Praga and see at the airport a bloody ton of young-tall-extremely handsome-Alpha confident dudes with social circles and their gorgeous EE chicks (whom they've known and gamed since high school, good luck stealing them) on-lock: I just leave.

One has to understand when the competition around one is too hard, and look for greener pastures.

The funny thing is actually if you look into the comments and look what she wrote:

"I always blow off guys who approach me asking me where I’m from or that they want to practice English. I can’t stand that."

I mean, serious with this attitude. Who she thinks she is? A solid 9 or 10 where guys will fall on their knees for? Even local guys who approach her with an indirect line from where are you from and she's already offended. What a hypocrisy.

Post: #40

(11-12-2017 06:51 AM)Irish Wrote:  on how they're all whores who are only after your money and are all super easy and sleep with anyone.

Narcissistic projection; western W are those things

Post: #41

(11-14-2017 05:21 AM)Shimmy Wrote:  unless they are 8+ (they never are).

Interesting, I notice the sub-8s are the ones "hiking" macchu picchu. Something is inherently wrong with single women "exploring" the world.

Post: #42

Curious has anyone had any relationship stories with fempats?

Post: #43

(11-12-2017 10:19 AM)Pointer Wrote:  What I find amusing is how the term "expat" is thrown around by people from English speaking countries even though they've been working and living on a local salary. For all intents and purposes they are immigrants yet the term is somehow offensive to them.

An expat is a person who is sent to work abroad by a company or a government agency. If you move to a foreign country on your own without a job or you receive a job offer in that country you are an immigrant not an expat. It's the same level of stupidity that applies to people who answer "I'm from California or I'm from New York" to the question "Where are you from?" when everyone else in the group just states their home countries. It's as if California or New York are some sort of countries in their own right.

Why is "stupidity" to say you are from a state rather than "the USA"?

Actually states are "sort of countries in their own right" because the very definition of "state" is an independent political entity. States are not provinces.

Speaking of definitions, as stated before, immigrants and expats are not the same thing. Just because someone was not "sent abroad by a company or government agency" does not automatically make him an immigrant.

Post: #44

(11-16-2017 08:49 AM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  Curious has anyone had any relationship stories with fempats?

Post: #45

(11-15-2017 03:30 PM)scrambled Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 05:21 AM)Shimmy Wrote:  unless they are 8+ (they never are).

Interesting, I notice the sub-8s are the ones "hiking" macchu picchu. Something is inherently wrong with single women "exploring" the world.

fraudulent women going for the fraud of machu picchu... goes well together. They come back home with that look in their eye. I know it was bullshit, but at least I can say I did it.

Post: #46

(11-16-2017 05:32 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  fraudulent women going for the fraud of machu picchu... goes well together. They come back home with that look in their eye. I know it was bullshit, but at least I can say I did it.

I've never been to Macchu Picchu, how is it a fraud? Genuinely curious.

Post: #47

(11-16-2017 07:39 PM)Super_Fire Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:32 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  fraudulent women going for the fraud of machu picchu... goes well together. They come back home with that look in their eye. I know it was bullshit, but at least I can say I did it.

I've never been to Macchu Picchu, how is it a fraud? Genuinely curious.

It is mostly recently rebuilt for tourists

This reviewer seems to get it.

Post: #48

Quote:

(11-14-2017 11:11 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  [quote='Going strong' pid='1683629' dateline='1510713599']
The (entitled, and sad) being above can get herself fucked in Western Europe or the US (lands of high thirst), or even in EE by some drunk gopnik, but has zero chance of getting dicked in Asia. Except by a professional male prostitute on a Bali beach that is.

Here is the thing. If fempats want do go to another country, whether it's Asia, Latin America, or Africa... they must be prepared to date the local guys. Otherwise they are in a situation where they have 2,000 men to pick from, while those men have 10 million women. They have to be idiots to even complain about this. I mean it is so obvious a situation that fempats who complain about it cannot have fully functioning brains.

As the saying goes, fucking a fempat in Asia would be like bringing your sausage to Frankfurt.

(11-14-2017 11:11 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  Funny thing is that when I read the blogs like this... I see the ones in Africa or Latin America often complain about dating locals too. Which is mind boggling, because if you think about it... these bitches would rather get raw dogged by some AIDS riddled hobo in Africa than date a middle class Chinese man.

Agreed. The level of racism of the Western females towards Asian men is something the Western media never talks about. Yet it is obvious for all to see.

Post: #49

(11-14-2017 09:24 PM)Suits Wrote:  A slutty fempat weights in.

Quote:I’ve dated around considerably more than I ever did in Poland, but the most dates I had with any one guy was four, and that was two too many.

When comparing the quality of Expats in Poland to Taiwan, Poland wins hands down.

Correct use of to/too/two.

3/3 WB

Post: #50

(11-16-2017 10:45 PM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 09:24 PM)Suits Wrote:  A slutty fempat weights in.

Quote:I’ve dated around considerably more than I ever did in Poland, but the most dates I had with any one guy was four, and that was two too many.

When comparing the quality of Expats in Poland to Taiwan, Poland wins hands down.

Correct use of to/too/two.

3/3 WB

Uncle Cr33pin wouldn't.