Post: #51

(10-30-2017 06:38 PM)Striking Wrote:  Have you not experienced the hedonic adaptation? Having experienced a lot of ecstasy in my life I can tell you that's it's always followed by a big crash of dullness, then by an adaptation, life forever being life as you know it. For us that have accomplished many of our goals early in life, the unexistence of continued happiness is easy to accept.

Hedonic adaptation ? You mean this thing called LIFE ?

Life has high's and low's - I'm not sure what the hell you're expecting.

There is happiness you just refuse to acknowledge and be bitter about it because of some hoe you've put on a pedestal.

YOU choose what you want to feel.

YOU can choose to be happy.

YOU can choose to accept women for what they are.


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Post: #52

We got a nihilist here

Post: #53

I wish I could get a pretty femenine, loyal, simple, beautiful and smart girl to marry with and have children. Since it's 2017 I won't waste my time looking for something that probably does not exist anymore. So I will fuck as many slutty hot girls I can since I love how fun they are to fuck and hang around with.

Post: #54

^i like your style. If family is really your lot in life, though, then I would suggest you explore the idea of traveling abroad to find a wife/mother. Lots of wonderful women in South America, Southeast Asia, and Eastern Europe

Post: #55

(10-30-2017 07:05 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  We got a nihilist here

Post: #56

(10-30-2017 07:05 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  We got a nihilist here

Enough of the banter now. I understand where you're coming from, but you still don't get me. I'm past the point of hedonism, I want to do good things, yet I still have this urge to bang. I have no desire to work to find a wife just yet, so my solution is serial monogamy with women that aren't promiscuous and decent human beings. Unfortunately, it takes a little time to find them, and quite a bit of pain when you see the trash that's out there. The social circles I frequent are mostly where I can find these types of girls and I'm surrounded by betas in my liberal Canadian city - so I have to let off steam somewhere...

We're different players - you enjoy banging sluts - I don't.

Post: #57

You realize a "non promiscuous" can possibly be an undercover one and selling herself as a good girl right ?

Eventually you might be able to figure it out, eventually you'll dump her if she is one, but isn't that wasted time in your book?

Serial monogamy isn't my bag, but I suppose it's somewhat noble.


Your biggest issue is filtering, it'll take time, this means you'll be in a sex drought while finding these said good girls.

Your second biggest issue is then vetting said good girl to your standards.

Your third biggest issue, serial monogamy, typically this sends signals to a girl down that you want to lock things down and be serious. That's the wrong message for a guy who has no desire to find a wife.


A road in the middle would be to find a fun girl you enjoy being around and who COMPLIMENTS your life.


You cannot be considered a player at all - if you don't play the field, spin plates, and are a serial monogamist, you AREN'T a player at all.

You're a dude whose got high standards and only wants to be around ONE high quality woman.

Post: #58

Why do you put the quality of dick she takes on a pedestal? Wrap it up and sink it in.

Post: #59

(10-30-2017 07:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  You realize a "non promiscuous" can possibly be an undercover one and selling herself as a good girl right ?

Eventually you might be able to figure it out, eventually you'll dump her if she is one, but isn't that wasted time in your book?

Serial monogamy isn't my bag, but I suppose it's somewhat noble.


Your biggest issue is filtering, it'll take time, this means you'll be in a sex drought while finding these said good girls.

Your second biggest issue is then vetting said good girl to your standards.

Your third biggest issue, serial monogamy, typically this sends signals to a girl down that you want to lock things down and be serious. That's the wrong message for a guy who has no desire to find a wife.


A road in the middle would be to find a fun girl you enjoy being around and who COMPLIMENTS your life.


You cannot be considered a player at all - if you don't play the field, spin plates, and are a serial monogamist, you AREN'T a player at all.

You're a dude whose got high standards and only wants to be around ONE high quality woman.

Yeah, well, I'm kinda in between. My perfect life would've been married in the 50's and sleeping around occasionally with nice suburban housewives. My game is very good (I'd challenge anyone to best it), I'm a great dater, and I look the part, thus why I described myself as a 'solid player'. But if to you a player is a man that loves to bang sluts, then no, I'm certainly not that.

And yeah, 'undercover good girls' happen a lot. The bitch is that sometimes they don't smoke, they don't have tattoos or piercings, and they have what appears to be a loving family.. it gets to you.

I have banged quite a few sluts though; thus why I know that I hate it.

Post: #60

A player is a man who has multiple female options, regardless of an LTR or a fuck buddy, but you want one woman.

In that event I agree it takes game regardless.

You're in a catch 22, I agree with that, but in all honestly it's a needle in a haystack finding that one girl who fits into that slot.

In the end, you'll have to decide what you want, and if it's realistic.

But there shouldn't be any hedonistic depression on your part.

Post: #61

(10-30-2017 07:56 PM)Striking Wrote:  Yeah, well, I'm kinda in between. My perfect life would've been married in the 50's and sleeping around occasionally with nice suburban housewives. My game is very good (I'd challenge anyone to best it), I'm a great dater, and I look the part, thus why I described myself as a 'solid player'. But if to you a player is a man that loves to bang sluts, then no, I'm certainly not that.

So you're a guy who gets a girl friend and then, when things don't work out you find another one.

You've described basically every breathing male in history. That means you're not a player.

Post: #62

Compare OP's first post to his claim of being an unbeatable player.

No sale.

Post: #63

I'd say every girl has been a slut in her life.

Its just that some will tell or show you, others know they have to hide it.

But it's so easy for them to get cock, and women like cock. So you can only imagine the debauchery and sluttiness that goes on out of sight.

Many dudes in here get a front line view of slutty behavior, because we are they ones they like to be sluts for.

Its best not to let it keep going through your head and running your life.

If I think about all the depraved things my girl has done, then nothing good can come from that.

And by the way, it does there head in to think about our past as well.

Post: #64

(10-30-2017 08:02 PM)kaotic Wrote:  A player is a man who has multiple female options, regardless of an LTR or a fuck buddy, but you want one woman.

In that event I agree it takes game regardless.

You're in a catch 22, I agree with that, but in all honestly it's a needle in a haystack finding that one girl who fits into that slot.

In the end, you'll have to decide what you want, and if it's realistic.

But there shouldn't be any hedonistic depression on your part.

I've actually never been depressed, I just accept that no human can be happier than another in the long term. It took me a long time to accept it, so I don't expect you to, but the data is incontrovertible. The brain never allows you to be happy.

Post: #65

(10-30-2017 08:30 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Compare OP's first post to his claim of being an unbeatable player.

No sale.

Don't put words in my mouth, I never claimed that. I don't have the diligence to be an 'unbeatable player', not even close. My ability to charm however is second to none...my looks do help a lot.

Post: #66

(10-30-2017 07:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 06:38 PM)Striking Wrote:  Have you not experienced the hedonic adaptation? Having experienced a lot of ecstasy in my life I can tell you that's it's always followed by a big crash of dullness, then by an adaptation, life forever being life as you know it. For us that have accomplished many of our goals early in life, the unexistence of continued happiness is easy to accept.

Hedonic adaptation ? You mean this thing called LIFE ?

Life has high's and low's - I'm not sure what the hell you're expecting.

There is happiness you just refuse to acknowledge and be bitter about it because of some hoe you've put on a pedestal.

YOU choose what you want to feel.

YOU can choose to be happy.

YOU can choose to accept women for what they are.


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At first I was pretty miffed when this thread was first brought to my attention, but now all I feel is pity.


A poor sap that thinks that happiness is just a high. It's not that. It's the satisfaction of living well. It's waking up next to a beautiful girl and thinking what a life. It's the eggs on your plate first thing in the morning. It's the wonderful morning drive. It's the hello to a friend. It's that mountain off in the distance. It's the company you keep.

Tossing pearls before swine isn't a worthwhile endeavor. It only makes sense that he couldn't appreciate a sweet, succulent woman for what it was. It's better to pity the thing that simply doesn't understand and lives like the Grinch up on his crag.

Post: #67

And on the topic of starting a family. I know for certain I'll find a nice girl. Perhaps it'll be here out West or maybe it will be somewhere out East. Hell if I know. I'm a man of faith and I've had enough handed to me based on faith and effort alone, and for others as well.

I just know it'll happen just a matter of when so long as I keep both going.

Same can be applied to money.

Same can be applied to good company.

Same can be applied to a good life.

Faith and effort are the two things that propel a person's belief in self to get what they want. And, as I've said, I've seen it done time and time again so I know it's very possible for myself.


On women being sluts. You get what you ask for. Looking for casually meaningless sex? You'll find it quite easily. You looking for a short term fling with a girl you just wanna date, that is down for a bit of BDSM/anal? You'll find that too. If you're looking for marriage with a girl you feel is up to par? You'll find it as well.

Two big examples on this forum alone from guys who have transitioned to finding a girl they like after years of being a player(not bringing up guys who came in and are already happily married like Leonard and TravelerKai):

Strikeback

Courage Reborn

Post: #68

(10-30-2017 08:43 PM)Striking Wrote:  I don't have the diligence to be an 'unbeatable player', not even close. My ability to charm however is second to none...my looks do help a lot.

It's pointless to post this since nobody can confirm otherwise.

If you aren't happy, find happiness before continuing your endeavors in game. Always prioritize your own happiness. If you're not happy, what's the point?

Post: #69

(10-30-2017 08:47 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 07:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 06:38 PM)Striking Wrote:  Have you not experienced the hedonic adaptation? Having experienced a lot of ecstasy in my life I can tell you that's it's always followed by a big crash of dullness, then by an adaptation, life forever being life as you know it. For us that have accomplished many of our goals early in life, the unexistence of continued happiness is easy to accept.

Hedonic adaptation ? You mean this thing called LIFE ?

Life has high's and low's - I'm not sure what the hell you're expecting.

There is happiness you just refuse to acknowledge and be bitter about it because of some hoe you've put on a pedestal.

YOU choose what you want to feel.

YOU can choose to be happy.

YOU can choose to accept women for what they are.


OP Official .Gif:

At first I was pretty miffed when this thread was first brought to my attention, but now all I feel is pity.


A poor sap that thinks that happiness is just a high. It's not that. It's the satisfaction of living well. It's waking up next to a beautiful girl and thinking what a life. It's the eggs on your plate first thing in the morning. It's the wonderful morning drive. It's the hello to a friend. It's that mountain off in the distance. It's the company you keep.

Tossing pearls before swine isn't a worthwhile endeavor. It only makes sense that he couldn't appreciate a sweet, succulent woman for what it was. It's better to pity the thing that simply doesn't understand and lives like the Grinch up on his crag.

Wow, you are high and mighty aren't you? I'm such a poor sap that doesn't know what happiness is? Jesus mate.. all the things that you describe are what I mean by ecstasy. It's making me happy just thinking about it, and guess what? We all experience it equally.

You're not any happier than anyone, nobody is, the world is fair to all. Degenerate and fucked up, but fair.

Post: #70

Nah there's a deeper more profound happiness that can be found via accomplishment and prestige. Drugs do neither of those things for you.

If you want to take a nihilistic view on happiness like "it's finite chemicals in your brain" so be it. But it's your loss.

Post: #71

I thought like that when I was a teenager, but as I got older, experienced more, met different people, traveled a little, etc. my Outlook evolved. I'm sure yours will to. As so, one's taste tend to change every 5-10 years as well.

Post: #72

(10-30-2017 07:50 AM)Jetset Wrote:  At some point, you've got to adjust your shit and get calibrated.

You're still clinging to the idea that women are nuns at heart and that we cruelly impose sex on them. Yes, women like to fuck. They like to get their cervix bruised up until they can barely walk. This is a universal truth about the difference between the way women are instructed to present themselves in public and the way their biology forces them to act.

You're right about those who select low-quality men, it's a sign of instability, but you may not have clear ideas about what constitutes 'quality' to a woman.

I remember 5 or 6 years ago during the breakup back and forth stage of a god awful relationship with a nutjob, I was driving around being pissed off because I had just come to the unpleasant realization that the girl I was with was a ho. I saw some grungy looking dirty mother fucker walking down the street and thought "Shit, she'd probably at least let him finger her".

And then it hit me. She probably would.

Even if that's a ridiculous scenario to consider and in all reality she probably wouldn't fuck a homeless dude, it somehow brought a moment of clarity about how yes, in fact, most girls really are fucking ho's. That was sort of a moment for me where it all just clicked into place and some of that cognitive dissonance that OP is so clearly displaying was able to resolve itself.

There's a difference between spending your time reading about how women really are and quite another when you experience it for yourself. Strictly arming yourself with endless information on the subject won't protect your ego when it comes down to it.

Post: #73

It's part if a man's nature to care about the direction of society, and it's also in a man's nature to deal with the world as it is. Accept both. I'm still not sure how to translate this into practical and consistent action.

I try to remind myself of Nietzsche's quote in these situations, "When we have to change our mind about a person, we hold the inconvenience he causes us very much against him."

Post: #74

(10-30-2017 07:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  You realize a "non promiscuous" can possibly be an undercover one and selling herself as a good girl right ?
Eventually you might be able to figure it out, eventually you'll dump her if she is one, but isn't that wasted time in your book?

Kaotic is completely correct here. Lots of high notch women will try to dupe you. They realize that nobody wants a slut, so at some point they start pretending to be good girls.

However, if you have game and understand women... they cannot hide this forever. It's extremely rare for women to completely change. Really high notch count women have psychological characteristics that become hard to miss over time. Just like if you have solid game you will be able to tell if one of your girls has a side guy.

(10-30-2017 10:53 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  I thought like that when I was a teenager, but as I got older, experienced more, met different people, traveled a little, etc. my Outlook evolved. I'm sure yours will to. As so, one's taste tend to change every 5-10 years as well.

I've never understood why my tastes change over time. I mean there are some fundamentals that don't change, but I completely understand those threads where guys argue endlessly over whether a girl is a 6 or an 8.

The older I get the less rigid and idealistic my thinking.

Post: #75

OP is apparently still very young and inexperienced. He would be lucky if the only people who disappoint/deceive him was a girl.

In life, anyone and everyone can turn out to be a disappointment, or different than what you thought them to be. This also applies to ideas, not just people.

I dont give half a shit if a girl is a slut or an innocent. But when you find out that your best friend who grew up together turned out to be a back-stabbing beta orbiter who wants to steal your girlfriend, or your childhood's role model is a fucked up addict to everything a junkie could name, or that the religion that was his guiding principle turned out to be simple lies. Now that hurts.

And that's called life. You fucking get used to it. No amount of changing country can help you, no nexting strategy, no psychological filter, no "no social media" challenge can guarantee you will not be deceived or disappointed by people.

With age and experience you learn to weather the pain and become stronger by it, like a veteran bearing his scar with pride.
Or you don't, and turn into a MGTOW, a black pill incel, or an Elliot Rodger.

People think of the game as some secret with tricks and techniques. Game is just life. Some win, some lose. You either learn to get better to win. Or you keep losing. Or you take yourself out of the game altogether.

Women are perfectly fine as they are. They have no obligation to be decent to you. What have you done to earn it?

If a random chick tells me "I thought you were a better man (read: beta)" I would laugh and tell her to lose some weight.

OP needs less internet and more hitting the gym / making friends.

EDIT: nah, OP is a troll. Guess when it's cold they get lonely and frustrated.