Post: #1

The Birthday Girl



First and foremost, we must start with the most common and guaranteed girl to be in a nightclub on any given weekend: the birthday girl. This girl is of course celebrating her birthday with her closest friends and is a guaranteed sloppy mess, as she will keep binging until she is utterly incapacitated and unable to stand because it’s her special day. You will most likely see her donning a tiara on her head or wearing expensive shoes that she received as a recent gift. Safe to say, this is the best this girl will look all year.

Success Rate: 35%. If you happen to know her, it will be a lot easier to take her home. If she currently lacking a male companion she is most likely looking for birthday sex.

The Socialite




This is haughty prude that thinks she’s too good for everyone. You know, that one self righteous, pompous broad that everyone is coming up to say hello to. She is most likely in a bitchy mood without reason and is certainly the most fraudulent girl there. She will sicken you with her air of unjustified arrogance and will claim to only drink champagne, almost as if she expects there to be a red carpet rolled out for her upon her arrival.

Success Rate: 10%. This girl most likely loves doing drugs, so try to offer a free bump and roll the dice. If you are able to close on this one, you can close on any of them.


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Post: #2

This is an important thread. We rarely mention the different social circumstances of girls when we discuss game strategies. There are many sub-groups of women in the US, and around the world. This is the first time I've seen the socialite get mentioned. When have you not seen her anytime you go out to a top tier nightlife venue (rhetorical question)?

I think the best technique with the socialite is to not pay her any attention because that's precisely what she's craving. In fact, steal the attention away from her by rapping it up with the bartender and having a little flock of girls around you. Even if they are of lesser quality and standing than her, she'll be watching you because it's all about attention and she sees that you're getting it too.

Generally avoid these chicks. They are often vapid and have severe mental health issues. Your best chance at getting laid with them, ironically, is by ignoring them.

Post: #3

The type of women I usually encounter in clubs:

1.The very easy girl.She usually dances all around and is ready to be hooked up.In 90% of cases she has already a boyfriend.In the case of the very easy girl what matters is who will aproach first or who will scare the others to approach.Many fights in clubs take place for this kind of girls because their standards involve 80% of guys in the club.

2.The partying girl.She dances all around in provocative clothes however she likes to give cold blooded rejections all the time.You will notice that noone will try to approach her.These girls usually derive power from giving rejections to good looking guys.

3.The shy girl.She sits in a corner does not talk much and always looks to different direction.These girls can be extremely easy targets since their energy is too low to attract cockblockers.Sometimes their energy is so low that they do not even give an answer to you.

4.The social girl.Usually knows everyone in the club kisses the bouncer etc.Even if she gives you attention it is usually for social reasons.

5.The gold digger.She usually drinks expensive cocktails and flashes some golden cosmetics.She asks immediately for drinks.She is interested in what kind of car you drive and in what region you stay.

Post: #4

(02-26-2012 02:34 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Your best chance at getting laid with them, ironically, is by ignoring them.

Ignoring girls is a great tactic.

I use it often. Especially on hotter and rich girls.

And it works great when tons of other cats are "jocking".

In fact, I would go as far to say it is my "default" Game move on these types of girls. Creates mystery. (And I don't mean that pick up artist with fuzzy hats, either).

It works especially well in "closed environments" ie Weddings, Cocktail Parties, Events, Art Gallery gigs, and The Turf Club at The Racetrack.

I wrote about it a little here:

The Del Mar Racetrack: Swooping The Top Tier Girls http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/07/the...girls.html

Post: #5

The Birthday girl.....What I like. This scenario brings girls into the club who don't frequent them. Her shy friends or relatives. Look for this and isolate. Even a number close could be solid with these girls.

She will also bring some of the office sluts. Look for them. They will try to out party the others. You will have a window to pull before she pukes. Watch like a hawk strike like a Cobra.

Post: #6

(02-26-2012 03:20 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-26-2012 02:34 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Your best chance at getting laid with them, ironically, is by ignoring them.

Ignoring girls is a great tactic.

I use it often. Especially on hotter and rich girls.

And it works great when tons of other cats are "jocking".

In fact, I would go as far to say it is my "default" Game move on these types of girls. Creates mystery. (And I don't mean that pick up artist with fuzzy hats, either).

It works especially well in "closed environments" ie Weddings, Cocktail Parties, Events, Art Gallery gigs, and The Turf Club at The Racetrack.

I wrote about it a little here:

The Del Mar Racetrack: Swooping The Top Tier Girls http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/07/the...girls.html

It's a great tactic for you especially because it ties into the custom suit lifestyle. When you're immaculately dressed, you already stand out. Plus when you're in an environment where everyone is jocking "miss princess" except you, ignoring her is the best strategy.

I wanted to make that point for the other guys who might be reading this. If you don't have the right formula (well-dressed, solid game and experience, mysterious aura), ignoring her probably won't work for you.

Post: #7

I just read G's Del Mar thread and it reminded me of another distinction to make about "Socialite Game."

G mentioned the "closed environments" which are basically weddings, house parties, events, etc. Very ideal settings for socialite game.

Your best chance of swooping a socialite in a nightlife setting--her homecourt advantage--is when you're traveling out of town. In addition to craving attention, socialites worry about "social consequences," hence the name. Your mileage or success rate will climb higher when you're a traveling playboy.

Since you'll only be in her city for 1-3 nights, there won't be any social consequences for her choosing to fuck you.

There are hierarchies in socialite status. A socialite in "Minneapolis" is not even on the radar in Miami, NYC, or LA. Playboys from top-flight cities will have DHV status just off geography alone in lesser known cities.

You definitely want to use the "ignore" tactic which will set you apart from the other cats vying for her attention. At some point, you'll be feeling her "grilling" you with her eyes (if it's working). Turn your head over to her direction and make the eye contact. It should be there.

Once it's there, make your attack move. Give her a strong intro like G said. I used this in Montreal.

Your out-of-town status will bring a smile to her face and suddenly you become the socialite. Expect mad questions. This is when you apply your usual game.

The socialite label is simply an "armor." Girls are fundamentally the same. You just need a different approach for dismantling the socialite armor.

Locally, success rate numbers for socialites are much lower, especially in top-flight cities. No worries though. They often aren't worth the time. Too many lames tricking on them and inflating their worth.

Post: #8

(02-26-2012 02:34 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  This is an important thread. We rarely mention the different social circumstances of girls when we discuss game strategies. There are many sub-groups of women in the US, and around the world. This is the first time I've seen the socialite get mentioned. When have you not seen her anytime you go out to a top tier nightlife venue (rhetorical question)?

I think the best technique with the socialite is to not pay her any attention because that's precisely what she's craving. In fact, steal the attention away from her by rapping it up with the bartender and having a little flock of girls around you. Even if they are of lesser quality and standing than her, she'll be watching you because it's all about attention and she sees that you're getting it too.

Generally avoid these chicks. They are often vapid and have severe mental health issues. Your best chance at getting laid with them, ironically, is by ignoring them.

Good stuff. My day job is to keep some major cities locked down for a Famous International Organization, so I deal with these fancy-pants types all the time. With the socialite types ignoring is good, but due to their psychological make up, you have to introduce yourself first. Why? Because they have to know you know who they are, but you just don't really give a f---. Just say hi and drop the Inception-like seed why they should know you (where you live/work/etc). Then leave. Their stupid brains will start churning because they crave the attention and deference. Actually, I'd say they're addicted to it as its tightly connected with their sense of self-worth. And you're throwing a wrench into the vapid machinations. It is indeed some vapid, stupid s---.

Plus, as G's Del Mar post said, you come back to them later. It's stupid to try to occupy them in a "closed" environment for two hours because everyone's supposed to be mingling. Big social no-no; plus no socialite (or wannabe socialite; 1000s of these too) will cloister herself anyway when there's so many people to talk to. So let her drink for a while, get friendly towards then end, and try to bounce to another spot (i.e. upscale lounge) to run your game in an environment with no social repercussions for her.

Post: #9

(02-26-2012 05:17 PM)46. Wrote:  With the socialite types ignoring is good, but due to their psychological make up, you have to introduce yourself first. Why? Because they have to know you know who they are, but you just don't really give a f---. Just say hi and drop the Inception-like seed why they should know you (where you live/work/etc). Then leave. Their stupid brains will start churning because they crave the attention and deference. Actually, I'd say they're addicted to it as its tightly connected with their sense of self-worth. And you're throwing a wrench into the vapid machinations. It is indeed some vapid, stupid s---.

Plus, as G's Del Mar post said, you come back to them later. It's stupid to try to occupy them in a "closed" environment for two hours because everyone's supposed to be mingling. Big social no-no; plus no socialite (or wannabe socialite; 1000s of these too) will cloister herself anyway when there's so many people to talk to. So let her drink for a while, get friendly towards then end, and try to bounce to another spot (i.e. upscale lounge) to run your game in an environment with no social repercussions for her.

There's a whole book that can be written on socialite game.

The environment is key.

In closed environments, as G and you have pointed out, the advantage is neutral, if not in your favor (depending on the ratio). Weddings and high-end events are usually in the player's favor. Most guys that go to racetracks--at least on the East Coast--usually got bankroll and some kind of social status with DHV. What's often missing is the cat with bankroll AND game/style. This is where you come in. Drop that seed (keep it curt), and then come back later after all the lames have put their bid in. She'll probably thank you for saving her.

With the nightlife environment, I'm all for straight ignoring the chick borderline insulting her. Don't even make an direct intro unless she's alone and giving you eye contact. The logistics aren't in your favor. The ratio is often to her advantage: thirsty guys buying her drinks, loud music is playing and there's lots of people.

I hate PUA terms but this is where neg theory reigns supreme. These chicks often suffer from heavy low self esteem. If it's a group of them, open them up and neg the one you're after while throwing attention to her friends. But make sure they've seen you in action prior to you opening them. Know the bartender/dj/and people at the door. Be the man. By then, they'll really wonder who the F you really are. No guy has dissed any of them up until this point.

You really want to aim for socialites in new cities. These are often among your best contacts when you return to those towns and want to get into something (assuming you, like me, don't burn bridges with chicks). Even if the chick has a bf or committed situation then, she'll usually be cool in directing you to a good party or event. I know tons of chicks like this all over the United States (ATL, LA, NYC, SF).

Post: #10

This is right on. I know an annoying coke head socialite that calls herself Starlet. I just talk to her like a man while everyone else plays into her bs. She ain't worth the drama.

Post: #11

Funny. I should have read this before posting a few minutes ago: /thread-10805.html

Post: #12

Where I am, there are a lot of Hi-T girls who get into film production, and still go to bars past their prime because they are so used to the army vibe that comes with that field. They were once sluts. And, now they are raggedy sluts, still trying to live out the male destiny of fucking and fun, but can only offer wilted, beady-eyed faces, and dumbo-eared pussy lips.

It's sad, because I knew girls like this who were hot when they were younger- probably had it in the back of their minds that they'd make it as actresses, but are now aging out of the game. Too much smoking and booze- the hard man-life, and now they are ruined. It's more than just hit the wall tragic, it's ancient pirate ship smashed into the rocks of a beach kind of tragic.

Post: #13

Bottle Service Whores - Chicks that idle around tables with guys who bought bottles until some loser starts pouring them shots/drinks. Soon as he does this three more of her friends appear and they all do a shot. Chicks stand around a few minutes and dance before leaving and buzzing around another table.

Promoter Entourage - These chicks follow club promoters around and are always found in the booths standing around drinking the promoters free shit. There job is to stand there and look pretty (usually look super slutty/trashy). Most of the time these bishs are nearing mid-late twenties and desperately trying to hold onto their looks. Their fashion is usually extreme slut/urban. They live to have their pictures taken with the promoters and other sluts, usually holding bottles.

Out of towners - These chicks are easy to spot in a club because their fashion sense is dated, they dance horribly/sloppy, often going 'woooooooo' over and over again as they raise one hand above their head and dance in a huge circle.

Post: #14

   

The "I went to USC, Harvard, Yale, or some type of big name university on mommy and daddy's dime and now I'm partying on that same dime in Vegas, Miami, L.A., etc"

You get a TON of these in Vegas and sometimes L.A....

Post: #15

(03-02-2012 02:30 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  The "I went to USC, Harvard, Yale, or some type of big name university on mommy and daddy's dime and now I'm partying on that same dime in Vegas, Miami, L.A., etc"

You get a TON of these in Vegas and sometimes L.A....

My impression from Athlone and a couple other Ivy guys on the forum runs contrary to your post. They don't have much good to say about them looks or easiness wise.

Post: #16

My favorite girl is the one who got dragged there by her friends. Either she wasn't feelin it that night, don't like one of the sluts that got invited, or really didnt want to be home. Either way they are pretty easy to spot and usually down to get game thrown at them. Worst come to worst you can get introduced to the rest of the pack.

Post: #17

Awesome thread. I am from Toronto, and honestly you have to go into "ignore mode" ALL THE TIME at a club. Why? because every girl there ranging (looks wise) from 4-9 will act as a "Socialite". Even chubby ones which is disturbing.

Based on RC Fresh's photo with the girls in, i can guarantee you that you'll RARELY see such women in Toronto nightlife. Such women (if they are from Toronto) are super rare as the dudes with tons of money/corporate suits attract them of course with things they buy for them.

Post: #18

(03-02-2012 06:50 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 02:30 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  The "I went to USC, Harvard, Yale, or some type of big name university on mommy and daddy's dime and now I'm partying on that same dime in Vegas, Miami, L.A., etc"

You get a TON of these in Vegas and sometimes L.A....

My impression from Athlone and a couple other Ivy guys on the forum runs contrary to your post. They don't have much good to say about them looks or easiness wise.

Depends on the types of venues Athlone was scoping...I run into these types of women all the time at such places as Greystone Manor and Soho House in L.A., Avenue in New York, and XS and 1Oak in Vegas...Up in the high end venues/clubs not the pubs....

Post: #19

(03-03-2012 02:15 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 06:50 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 02:30 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  The "I went to USC, Harvard, Yale, or some type of big name university on mommy and daddy's dime and now I'm partying on that same dime in Vegas, Miami, L.A., etc"

You get a TON of these in Vegas and sometimes L.A....

My impression from Athlone and a couple other Ivy guys on the forum runs contrary to your post. They don't have much good to say about them looks or easiness wise.

Depends on the types of venues Athlone was scoping...I run into these types of women all the time at such places as Greystone Manor and Soho House in L.A., Avenue in New York, and XS and 1Oak in Vegas...Up in the high end venues/clubs not the pubs....

Athlone is currently studying at an Ivy.

Post: #20

My personal favorite: THE BACHELORETTE PARTY

We've all seen them out on the town, a flock of crazy whooores getting pissed drunk and partying hard, not too sure if you'll see them at the high end clubs, most likely a college type bar with cheap drinks and shots. They'll often times be carrying dildos and handing out condoms, her entourage of skanky bridesmaids and friends are some of the easiest drunk chicks you'll ever pull.

Post: #21

(03-03-2012 08:05 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-03-2012 02:15 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 06:50 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 02:30 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  The "I went to USC, Harvard, Yale, or some type of big name university on mommy and daddy's dime and now I'm partying on that same dime in Vegas, Miami, L.A., etc"

You get a TON of these in Vegas and sometimes L.A....

My impression from Athlone and a couple other Ivy guys on the forum runs contrary to your post. They don't have much good to say about them looks or easiness wise.

Depends on the types of venues Athlone was scoping...I run into these types of women all the time at such places as Greystone Manor and Soho House in L.A., Avenue in New York, and XS and 1Oak in Vegas...Up in the high end venues/clubs not the pubs....

Athlone is currently studying at an Ivy.

I just graduated from and Ivy and live in a city that hosts a different Ivy and an Ivy+(MIT)... the talent is absolutely shit. The best way to make sure your going to encounter high quality tail is to avoid Ivy hangouts.

Post: #22

(03-04-2012 11:48 AM)CGS Wrote:  

(03-03-2012 08:05 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-03-2012 02:15 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 06:50 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 02:30 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  The "I went to USC, Harvard, Yale, or some type of big name university on mommy and daddy's dime and now I'm partying on that same dime in Vegas, Miami, L.A., etc"

You get a TON of these in Vegas and sometimes L.A....

My impression from Athlone and a couple other Ivy guys on the forum runs contrary to your post. They don't have much good to say about them looks or easiness wise.

Depends on the types of venues Athlone was scoping...I run into these types of women all the time at such places as Greystone Manor and Soho House in L.A., Avenue in New York, and XS and 1Oak in Vegas...Up in the high end venues/clubs not the pubs....

Athlone is currently studying at an Ivy.

I just graduated from and Ivy and live in a city that hosts a different Ivy and an Ivy+(MIT)... the talent is absolutely shit. The best way to make sure your going to encounter high quality tail is to avoid Ivy hangouts.

Yeah that sounds more like it. In general, I do think rich girls are better looking then average girls, I go to a old money private high school and the quality is a lot better than at neighboring schools, but the smarts a girl would need to get into Harvard or Yale cuts out the type of girls in RC Fresh's photo. He could be onto something with USC and UCLA though, because they have a huge student body it's relatively easier to get admitted and those two have a rep for fly girls. but otherwise, small Ivy or Ivy+ colleges or their equivalents in other countries aren't breeding grounds for good looks.

Post: #23

(03-04-2012 11:48 AM)CGS Wrote:  I just graduated from and Ivy and live in a city that hosts a different Ivy and an Ivy+(MIT)... the talent is absolutely shit. The best way to make sure your going to encounter high quality tail is to avoid Ivy hangouts.

Boston as in New England Boston? lololololol......

Post: #24

(03-04-2012 11:40 PM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 11:48 AM)CGS Wrote:  

(03-03-2012 08:05 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-03-2012 02:15 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 06:50 AM)P Dog Wrote:  My impression from Athlone and a couple other Ivy guys on the forum runs contrary to your post. They don't have much good to say about them looks or easiness wise.

Depends on the types of venues Athlone was scoping...I run into these types of women all the time at such places as Greystone Manor and Soho House in L.A., Avenue in New York, and XS and 1Oak in Vegas...Up in the high end venues/clubs not the pubs....

Athlone is currently studying at an Ivy.

I just graduated from and Ivy and live in a city that hosts a different Ivy and an Ivy+(MIT)... the talent is absolutely shit. The best way to make sure your going to encounter high quality tail is to avoid Ivy hangouts.

Yeah that sounds more like it. In general, I do think rich girls are better looking then average girls, I go to a old money private high school and the quality is a lot better than at neighboring schools, but the smarts a girl would need to get into Harvard or Yale cuts out the type of girls in RC Fresh's photo. He could be onto something with USC and UCLA though, because they have a huge student body it's relatively easier to get admitted and those two have a rep for fly girls. but otherwise, small Ivy or Ivy+ colleges or their equivalents in other countries aren't breeding grounds for good looks.

P-Dog: Those chicks in the photo went to USC, Pepperdine, and ASU..And your right USC and UCLA has DOPE Female student bodies, you really gotta peep it if your ever in LA....In regards to the Ivy Leaguer's..Your right they dont breed grounds for good looks, but are the choice for higher education fly women from wealthy family's and North Eastern Elitists..I have met a few from Columbia, Brown, and UPenn..Hell, Ivanka Trump went to UPenn, Natalie Portman went to Harvard, and Amanda Peet went to Columbia...Like I said, they are out there, and mostly at the "it" club's of the moment, not some slappy wanker pub/bar where they let anyone through the door. You can find em at the type of clubs that I mentioned earlier...and peep it:

http://www.complex.com/girls/2010/01/hea...ated-women

Post: #25

At the places that I hang, there are the consummate slut-regulars. These girls are actually fairly attractive, and I've banged them all. They are always there picking-up new guys. Total hedonists. It's kind of funny- it's like they are part of the crew.