Post: #1

"Gab, a social media alternative to twitter/facebook that has a more open monetization policy, has been given notice that their domain will be seized within 5 days by their current registrar, an Australian company.

Gab was recently booted out of the Google Play store, and Gab filed a lawsuit against Google in response, alleging anti-trust violations.

Because Google/Facebook/Twitter have been shutting down accounts of even left-leaning people who dare to criticize the Left, people have been forced to go to alternatives like Gab, which as a result has since been labelled a "hate speech" site by the Left."

https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/18/16166...ate-speechhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...rust-laws/

Post: #2

It would be nice if Sessions could start paying attention there, assuming he's on our side on this issue...

Post: #3

That's insane.

Post: #4

Expected. Why would Sessions give a shit about this though? You think the guy who wants to lock people up for decades over weed is going to stand up for a site that doesn't ban people for saying that the holocaust was justified?

Gab should have left it at not censoring political opinions rather than not censoring anything at all except direct threats, then maybe they would have a chance.

Post: #5

This is still more fallout from the "Unite the Right" rally.

That thing was the Jean Valjean of rallys.

Post: #6

I'm still surprised they were able to shut down Stormfront. Racists or not, they were around forever, weren't they? That was a major win for the left I think.

Post: #7

What does Jeff sessions have to do with an Australian registrar citing Australian hate speech laws in canceling their account?

Even when this is happening in the USA, what federal laws are being broken for Jeff sessions to pursue?

It's no different than when people say "Why hasn't Trump done X!?" Because it has to be within the powers of their office and and consistent with current law.

It is indeed shitty and a terrible trend, but the only solution is legislation that in some way addresses this. As of now there is no clear violation of federal law (and certainly not of Australian law) when these companies are cancelling hosting or registrar services.

Post: #8

Time to roll out class action lawsuits. Paypal needs to be fucking crippled for discontinuing service at the behest of the adl and splc.

Post: #9

(09-18-2017 09:40 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  What does Jeff sessions have to do with an Australian registrar citing Australian hate speech laws in canceling their account?

Even when this is happening in the USA, what federal laws are being broken for Jeff sessions to pursue?

The DOJ and FTC are in charge of pursuing anti-trust violations. Clearly an Australian registrar is not under the jurisdiction, but the limited amount of US service providers would. That being said, Sessions is not going to die on the hill for Anglin's and Vox's sperg fest. I fear its going to get a lot worse before we see anti-trust laws enforced.

Post: #10

Maybe my understanding of the internet isn't very great, but aren't there dozens of domain registrars in the USA? How would anti trust come into play?

Post: #11

Not surprised this was going to happen. The Gab guys were idiots to chose their hosting in a place like Australia.

Post: #12

What is the anti trust case to be made, based on the examples we've seen of these situations so far?

It is easy to just say "anti trust laws" but so far no one has articulated how these incidents have violated anti trust laws.

Post: #13

(09-18-2017 10:21 PM)Repo Wrote:  Maybe my understanding of the internet isn't very great, but aren't there dozens of domain registrars in the USA? How would anti trust come into play?

You could argue that web hosting/domain businesses are colluding to create a monopoly and discriminating against certain consumers. It would be easier if web hosting companies/domain dealers were labeled as utilities since there would be more protection for the consumers.

A few weeks ago, I would have said we are not at that point yet, but the collusion to deny service to Anglin's site is evident. Even the dark web with all its drug dealing and illegal porn would not host such "thought crime." This makes me concerned, but its still possible Anglin will find a home once the heat dies down.


FTC link of antitrust definitions and acts

Post: #14

(09-18-2017 10:27 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Not surprised this was going to happen. The Gab guys were idiots to chose their hosting in a place like Australia.

From what I understand, even the DailyStormer's Russian DNS dropped them like a hot rock.

This has nothing to do with jurisdictions and everything to do with (((the golden rule))).

Post: #15

Right now it is not even illegal to deny someone an apartment, for example, based on their political beliefs. It's not something that is included in the individual protections on a federal level. (It may be in some local jurisdictions). There are examples of this happening during the last year.

Denying the Stormfront guy hosting or gab hosting or you hosting based on socio-political beliefs seems to me a similar concept, and even less damaging than denying housing, so I don't see how there is any way to pursue federal charges under the law as it stands. (It may be possible for some of these people or groups to prevail in a civil suit based on various ancillary issues).

I think there would have to be new legislation for anything serious to be done about this type of thing. And even then I do not see what this legislation would be, the chances of hosting companies or registrars being declared public utilities is just about nil.

I don't think this issue is going to be resolved anytime soon unfortunately.

Post: #16

(09-18-2017 10:27 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  The Gab guys were idiots to chose their hosting in a place like Australia.

This is how ridiculous it gets. You're allowed to vote against Gay Marriage in Australia, but you're not freely-allowed to say why you oppose it without being very careful because that would be considered hate speech.

Which means, theoretically, if I linked a bunch of voters to the Gay Nazi Tumblr blogs I pointed out months back, with their predictable Satanism, Family Incest, White Power, HIV bug chasing and Kill All N***ers themes, and presented it as any kind of argument against gay marriage, I'd be the one charged with Hate Speech.

Australia's eternally-mediocre population does what it always does: sits on its arse and drinks beer.

Post: #17

Australian speech codes are more like Sweden or Canada than the United States. They are doing nothing but radicalizing the next generation by putting everyone in walled off ghettos of censorship.

Post: #18

(09-18-2017 11:14 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  Right now it is not even illegal to deny someone an apartment, for example, based on their political beliefs. It's not something that is included in the individual protections on a federal level. (It may be in some local jurisdictions). There are examples of this happening during the last year.

Denying the Stormfront guy hosting or gab hosting or you hosting based on socio-political beliefs seems to me a similar concept, and even less damaging than denying housing, so I don't see how there is any way to pursue federal charges under the law as it stands. (It may be possible for some of these people or groups to prevail in a civil suit based on various ancillary issues).

I think there would have to be new legislation for anything serious to be done about this type of thing. And even then I do not see what this legislation would be, the chances of hosting companies or registrars being declared public utilities is just about nil.

I don't think this issue is going to be resolved anytime soon unfortunately.

I agree its not going to be resolved soon because like I said before, not even the slimiest (((lawyer))) is going to get killed in the court of public opinion for Anglin.

I think there is an argument to be made that since web hosting/domains is a limited business sector and not easy to enter, that it would be easy to form a colluded monopoly. If every apartment owner got together and said "hey, lets all not rent to these people since they are not protected by civil right's act." That would be collusion to form a monopoly, which could be argued in the case of web hosters.

This whole thing just sets a dangerous precedent for thought crime to be removed from the public scope.

Post: #19

(09-18-2017 11:15 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(09-18-2017 10:27 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  The Gab guys were idiots to chose their hosting in a place like Australia.

This is how ridiculous it gets. You're allowed to vote against Gay Marriage in Australia, but you're not freely-allowed to say why you oppose it without being very careful because that would be considered hate speech.

Which means, theoretically, if I linked a bunch of voters to the Gay Nazi Tumblr blogs I pointed out months back, with their predictable Satanism, Family Incest, White Power, HIV bug chasing and Kill All N***ers themes, and presented it as any kind of argument against gay marriage, I'd be the one charged with Hate Speech.

Australia's eternally-mediocre population does what it always does: sits on its arse and drinks beer.

What I'm finding interesting is the raft of demands that "if you vote no then don't come into my store/business/cafe/whatever".

That's an interesting take on prejudicial practice.

So I can tell a fag to fuck off and take his business elsewhere just as long as it's not because he's gay but instead because he voted for gay marriage?

Post: #20

The left didn't need to censor the right. Turns out the right was perfectly happy to censor and no-platform itself over ego-stroking and hurt feelings.

Every story like this vindicates my decision to stay out of the alt-media's neverending nervous breakdown.

On one side, you have Vox Day, a man so egomaniacal that he named himself "Voice of God," tying down Gab with a nuisance suit because his fee-fees were hurt, urging his midwit drones to report Gab to its domain registrar for "hate speech," then claiming he's doing it all to "strengthen" Gab against real opposition. Sure, bub. And if I punch my best friend in the face, then tell him I did it to test how well he could dodge a right hook, that'll totally make his black eye go away.

On the other, we have Andrew Anglin and the halfwit retards of the alt-right, who can't comprehend that we effectively live in the Soviet Union now and they need to shut their stupid mouths if they don't want to end up in the metaphorical gulag. It's cute how they talk about wanting a revolution yet expect that the system they want to overthrow will give a damn about their constitutional rights. When they aren't giving the rest of us civics lessons, they're busy trying to dox Vox and get him thrown in prison for "hate speech."

These two groups of dueling idiots just went and took a diarrhetic shit in the school sandbox because they didn't the fact that the other group was playing on the opposite side of it.

Not only have they killed Gab (I'm certain that once Gab has a new registrar, Vox and his minions will try something else), they're also killing alt-tech in general. These startups require money and personnel to function. Why would anyone invest in an alt-tech enterprise like Gab if some shrieking little girl like Vox Day can come along and wreck it over his hurt fee-fees? Why would any talented programmer risk social censure and irreversible career damage to work for an enterprise like Gab?

If people like Vox, Anglin, and their supporters are the best we can do to fight the globalists, white genocide is a mercy killing.

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Post: #22

They should try Iceland, It appears that dailystormer is up and now using an IS domain name.

Post: #23

Matt Forney Wrote:On one side, you have Vox Day, a man so egomaniacal that he named himself "Voice of God," tying down Gab with a nuisance suit because his fee-fees were hurt, urging his midwit drones to report Gab to its domain registrar for "hate speech," then claiming he's doing it all to "strengthen" Gab against real opposition.

About a year ago, an Asian food-blogger suicided because he wasn't successful with women. We at RVF were rather unsympathetic and merciless in dissecting the mistakes he made, culminating in the conclusion that it's dumb and wrong to suicide yourself because you can't accept the Reality of What Women Are, because you're stuck holding on to a fantasy of What Women Ought To Be.

So many people cling to an idealistic fantasy of What Free Speech Ought To Be, "the right to say whatever you want, even if others get offended". But Free Speech has never been that, and has instead always been, "the right to say whatever you want, even if others get offended, provided you don't break Slander, Libel, or Defamation laws".

A thirty-second Google search reveals that Defamation laws started existing in England in the 1500s!

Andrew Torba suicided by clinging to his idealistic definition of Free Speech.

That's all anyone needs to know.

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Post: #25

(09-19-2017 11:33 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Andrew Torba suicided by clinging to his idealistic definition of Free Speech.

That's all anyone needs to know.

No, Vox also doesn't understand Free Speech has already been lost, because, as promised, Trump - despite the Right sucking his dick for him saying their was violence 'on both sides' at Unite The Right - just quietly-signed S.J. Res 49 into the US Legal Code, part of the his reliable pattern of working his base up on social media into thinking he's defending them, only to quietly-betray them in legislation when you dig more deeply into it.

This now links Hate Speech as being equivalent to Hate Crime, and gives the government power to use 'any and all resources' to combat 'Hate groups', by identifying the Free Speech Actions these groups took, and then blaming the violence Antifa enacted against them as evidence of the link between Free Speech and Violence.

The law is deliberately-vague as to who or what constitutes a Hate Group - most of the listed ones are (for now) White Nationalist groups, thereby fulfilling Reform Judaisms endless boner for creating a 'Whites are the real terrorists' narrative as Muslims shoot up everyone and everything - but, more troubling, it leaves it wide open for anyone and anything that is anti-narrative to be persecuted at will by the Government. Which means, if the Left ever regain control, (and, despite the hype, I don't think they're going anywhere), what Trump just signed into law has fucked the Right forever.

According to many State Actors, Roosh uses this website to promote Hate Speech, therefore, we can theoretically be considered Violent Threats. The US Government now has increased power to spy on us and, hell, seize all of our assets without warrant.

It's fucking bullshit. The forum might as well have stumped for Hillary for all the good it did us. Trump just validated a concept the Left spent spent eight years trying to normalise under Obama: means words = physical violence, most likely because it will also protect Daddy Netanyahu and Israel from the Boycott Disinvestment & Sanctions movement of the Left.

Note that Trump signed this on the day he ignored a 300,000+ signature petition asking for Antifa to be classified as a Terrorist Group, (which only required 100,000 signatures for a response).

Everything with this man is deception and lies. Everything.

Fun fact: I recently read on Wikipedia that Trump's self-designed Tower in NYC, the one with all the Satanic / Baal trappings, is a reported 664 feet high. Probably explains why Jared Kushner spent $1.8 Billion to purchase 666 Fifth Avenue.