Post: #26

(12-06-2016 03:37 PM)GrapeApe Wrote:  Fuck Linux. Leave it on the servers where it belongs. Even Android which is Linux based works half-assed compared to iOS. I tinkered with Linux and used Mint a while back and it's not worth the hassle unless all you're going to do is get an underpowered netbook to surf the web on. I even installed Ubuntu Touch on a tablet and it was complete and utter shit.

This is extremely basic low level thinking.
Linux is so much more than "surfing the web on an under powered netbook"

The reason I switched over to Ubuntu Linux from Windows to begin with, was because for years I struggled with all of Windows endless quirks.
With Ubuntu Linux I have never had to deal with a virus, ransomware, spyware, hackers, drivers going out of date, blue screen, crashes, system slowing down due to something getting jacked up in memory, etc...

To me it took about a month of dedicated study to understand how Ubuntu Linux works (refer to my previous post)
Once I got the foundation down, I have zero complaints and have increased my Businesses productivity immensely.

Post: #27

The choice of operating systems are:

Expensive, virus-prone, bloated, with built-in backdoors and spyware - but has no learning curve

VS

Free, near virus-invulnerable, lightweight, with no backdoors or spyware - but has a learning curve

It's hardly a choice these days.

Post: #28

I just downloaded Ubuntu. I'm ready to change from Windows.

Post: #29

(12-07-2016 11:10 AM)zoom Wrote:  I just downloaded Ubuntu. I'm ready to change from Windows.

Brother, you are making an extremely smart decision that is going to benefit you for years down the road.

Start here - https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/...on-windows

The above link will show you, step by step with pictures, exactly how to create a USB Stick that allows you to install Ubuntu on any machine.

Post: #30

(12-07-2016 11:10 AM)zoom Wrote:  I just downloaded Ubuntu. I'm ready to change from Windows.

My suggestion is to start with Linux Mint using Mate or Cinnamon. Just to make it easier with proprietary drivers and familiarity. Even though they are both built off either debian (LDME2) OR ubuntu w/o the unity interface which is despise with ubuntu.

You can problably get used to unity or Gnome 3 variants but for those of us who have been using Linux for 15+ years, Unity and Gnome 3 was a big "what the fuck is this shit". So we stick to MATE which resembles Gnome 2, what we are used to.

Again, any linux distro can be customized to your preference via drivers and window managers because linux is still linux regardless of the distro, but there can be a learning curve on getting things working that are not pre-installed , so start with something familiar.

Post: #31

Linux Mint user here for about 5 years. Plus I started in Slackware almost 10yrs ago.

My main desktop workhorse has never seen anything other than Windows. Favorite feature is keeping all data on redundant platters while the OS and software is on an SSD.

Have played with CUDA acceleration for 3d rendering, programming in several languages, SSHing and running webservers, you name it.

When I need to use Windows for coding or something else like it I go bonkers. I only wish OEMs would start porting more software to Linux. Would be great if SolidWorks and other technical programs had a full Linux install available. Would have no reason to use Windows.

Post: #32

I had a linux phase about 10 years ago. Was into slackware which ran the best, and redhat. Redhat worked with more programs but was more sluggish. Debian I Couldn't get to install well. There was some cd I go that nad linux and a bunch of software, but it wasn't a good distro. To bad zbrush, photoshop and weren't on linux. Steam didn't have linux software at the time so no games. Wine hardly worked too.

Post: #33

You can run photoshop in a VM on linux. Runs perfectly.

As of about Feb this year I prefer Gnome 3.

Never knew so many guys on here were linux users.

In general, though, it's a big time investment and there are endless things to learn so make sure you have a targeted understanding of what you want to learn. Otherwise you might spend months just having fun learning new linux things and your time might be better spent elsewhere.

Post: #34

I've actually never used Photoshop, I've been using GIMP for what seems like a decade.

From looking at pics of photoshop, it looks the exact same.

Post: #35

(12-07-2016 01:13 PM)LINUX Wrote:  I've actually never used Photoshop, I've been using GIMP for what seems like a decade.

From looking at pics of photoshop, it looks the exact same.

Seconded!
GIMP is the bomb, I use this all the time for Business and Leisure photo editing.

GIMP Tip: Learn about Alpha Channels right away.
http://www.penguintutorials.com/tutorial...ha-channel

Post: #36

I've used both. GIMP used to be a very clunky interface. Last time I check it had independant windows which are bit unweldy. And I have a lot of shortcut key and other tricks memorized for photoshop from years of use. It behaves differently for brushes too. Zbrush simply isnt on it though. One of my favorite programs, when I'm in the mood for art.

I wouldn't mind replacing window 8 on my surface pro 3 with a linux distro, if I could get a decent digital sculpture program on it. Blender is a bit unweldy for sculpture, its great for polygon modelling.

Post: #37

This is definitely not the thread I was hoping for

Post: #38

If you're using GIMP please also try Krita. The UI is wayyyyyyyy better

Post: #39

So I made the switch from Windows to Linux Mint. I also tried Ubuntu but it seemed too corporate and I didn't like the interface.

Overall it's been an easy transition and my computer is running much faster. I should have made the switch a long time ago.

Post: #40

(12-07-2016 02:04 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  If you're using GIMP please also try Krita. The UI is wayyyyyyyy better

I fucking love Krita.

Post: #41

(12-04-2016 11:11 PM)Simon Mcozelean Wrote:  It is clear that in order get companies to do what we want, we must stop giving money to them. Microsoft is no different. Unless you are a video editor, or a game developer, you should not be using Windows.

The great thing about Linux is that you can be sure that you are not being spied on. It is also much more customizable.

Currently, I'm using Linux Mint. It's great if you are a Windows user and you want to switch. It very closely resembles windows, with all the buttons you are familiar with.

First off, sorry for not checking the other thread. I will do at some point, but seeing as a few of you responded here, I'll chuck in a bit.

Secondly, your post reads like a troll. I mean, the kind of authoritative tone it takes - full of assertions and 'I know better than you'. It's not even a plea or a question - it's a mini-rant.

I'll take your post, paragraph by paragraph to start with.

1: It is clear that in order get companies to do what we want, we must stop giving money to them. Microsoft is no different. Unless you are a video editor, or a game developer, you should not be using Windows.

Are you deluded? "To get companies to do what we want"? Taking on Microsoft? Hard to take you seriously from this point on.

2: The great thing about Linux is that you can be sure that you are not being spied on. It is also much more customizable.

First off, wrong. You can still be spied on. Secondly, wtf does it being customizable or not have to do with anything? Do you have problems with joined up thinking? You are either dumb or trolling. Perhaps both?

3: Currently, I'm using Linux Mint. It's great if you are a Windows user and you want to switch. It very closely resembles windows, with all the buttons you are familiar with.

Bully for you! You got something right. Even if this post isn't really about Linux at all, you managed to read the no.1 slot at Distrowatch and ascertain that Mint is no.1. Bravo.

Now, with that out of the way, and just for the record, I think you are on a wind up, I will say this...

Yes, Mint is good, but it does not 'closely resemble windows' in the way you put forward. Sure, it runs on a computer and it has a desktop manager, but that is where it ends. Lots of things will be familiar, and it might work for 50 percent of the people that try it, but most that are familiar with windows will find it a different species. It tries hard to be like windows, but it is disingenuous of you to claim it as some familiar replacement. It's not.

First off, most programs that you use on windows do not exist on Linux. I'm talking graphics and audio stuff here, but there is probably more. Sure, Gimp is a powerful bit of kit, but learning it to the level that you know Photoshop at is another matter.

Then again, there have been a lot of advances in audio stuff for Linux. But again, it is 5 years behind. It's easier to get your windows programs to comply by running them in WINE which does a decent job, than it is by trying to get the few programs that work in Linux working on your particular distro.

It's fine if you just want mail and internet and office/word/spreadsheet stuff. Then it makes perfect sense. But if you do 3D/Audio/Graphics, then forget it. I know that the world doesn't revolve around these disciplines, but even so, setting up a working Linux box with proper backup management is not a trivial task. It's not difficult, but it's about taking the time, or having someone that knows what they are doing, taking the time to help you.

If you are going to go to the Linux side of things, then Mint is a good place to start. And no better place to start within Mint, than the LTS (Long Term Support) distro of 'Rosa'. It will keep going for a few years yet. Then again. My system stopped working the other day after not using it for a few weeks. When I updated, it started working again.

Updating can be hard in Linux. Sometimes it is just easier to uninstall a program and re-install it and hope that it all gets updated, rather than messing about with 'sudo apt-get install update' etc. etc.

At the end of the day it helps to have a buddy that can help you out with all of this. The people on the Linux forums are 'terse' to say the least.

Linux is a great alternative to windows for a lot of people, but it is not a panacea/holy grail of fuckyou microshaft!

Having said all that, I'm very impressed with how quick Reaper runs with the half a dozen synths and drum machines and FX I have, going with it. It took a whole evening to set up, but it's going now and a pleasure to use. I did a back up of my system that took up about 25GB of space, using my Terrabyte 'Image for Linux' backup software. It still hangs and takes a couple of minutes to load a calculator sometimes - all on a dual 2GHz x64 cpu.

I have a couple of virtual machines set up on it (winXP mainly) via VirtualBox and it works pretty good. But every now and again it hangs my system and I have to reboot. So ultimately it is useless. I just need a bigger/faster computer I suppose.

Linux has its place. It's the no.1 OS on the planet, like it or not. But windows has its place too.

TL;DR: Linux Mint Rosa (LST) is where it is at:

You can download it from here:
https://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=26

I would go with the XFCE edition as that is the most 'windows' like, and the lightest desktop that takes the least resources. Linux is just a kernel of the OS and a GUI of the desktop management system (ok, not as simple as that, but for noobs it will do) is put on top. So, Linux Mint Rosa will be your kernel of the OS, but XFCE will be your desktop. KDE is good, but heavy on resources and buggy - strictly for those that know what they are doing.

Most use MATE/Cinnamon but these also are not as light on resources as XFCE is. XFCE is really light on your system using much less RAM and whatnot. In fact, I found it lighter and faster on my system than LXDE, which is supposed to be the lightest of all. XFCE is the most bang for your buck.

So, TL;DR: Linux Mint Rosa (LST) is where it is at:

You can download it from here:
https://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=26

Choose the 'Xfce' edition.

That is supported for another couple of years iirc, before it just stops working. Just keep it updated. Little icon in the bottom right hand corner.

I can surf the net with my setup of this. Check mails. Do spreadsheets. Compose word documents. I can browse and edit photographs. I can do vector artwork with Inkscape apart from raster graphics with Gimp. I can compose music and edit it in Reaper via WINE. It does a lot.

But it's not a total replacement for windows.

Post: #42

If you are a bit confused by my ramblings (or anyone else's for that matter) on how to install Linux on your machine, let me give you a quick crash course.

Installing Linux can be done on a working machine that you use all the time - it doesn't need to be an old beater that you sacrifice. Any working machine will do if it powers on.

Installing Linux is not going to burn your system permanently, it is just a temporary thing that can be undone by switching off your computer and rebooting.

If you go to that page I linked above, choose a distro for your computer (64 bit or 32 bit etc. ). Take the time to check the hash of the download if you can, but don't worry too much about that now. In fact, when you do this properly you should check the hash twice! But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

So you have gone to the link I put above, you have chose your particular flavour of 'distro'. What do you do next? Why, you burn it to CD/DVD and then when you have done that, you boot the computer with the CD/DVD in the drive so it boots from there in stead of your hard drive. You may need to change the boot order of your bios but this is easy enough.

When you burn the .iso of your distro, I would also recommend that you use a program like imgburn, as it does proper burns with little mess ups, but ymmv. Use a proper burning program wtf you do.

So, you have your .iso image downloaded, properly burned to CD, and you know how to boot from there in to that system. Voila! Pretty soon you will have a fully running Linux system going on.

But even when you get this set up, it is still not a proper working system as you will have no 'persistence' which just means you can not save any work or downloads you do. Most the time this is a good thing, but it's probably not what you want from a system you are using every day. For that you need to burn your image to SD card or a partition on the hard drive, or perhaps just a USB stick.

I had a great system on a win7 laptop that booted from a SD card with Linux Mint 10 Katya iirc. Worked for over a year, every day flawless. Then one day, the Linux gods nuked it and it was all gone. Nothing lasts for ever, but Linux lasts even less.

One thing with Linux is that it is constantly writing to your disk so that kills SD cards and USB sticks. Don't expect them to last forever. When you find a distro you like, partition your hard drive and put it on there. But this can be tricky, as windows always takes the first partition and overwrites everything. It is not gone however, but you need to know how to use grub to get it back. Grub is a partition manager. With a bit of work you can get a fully functioning windows/linux system dual booting on a laptop or desktop. You can make it autoboot windows or linux, or give you the choice etc. etc. - See Dedoimedo for Grub tutorials.

None of this is advanced stuff. I'm sure many here have done this a thousand times. If you need help or you are trying to do a specific thing, I'm sure someone here could help you out quicker than at some of linux forums. They are hardcore: dude read the fucking manual. And you are like, dude, I did read the fucking manual. And they are like, well dude, still read it again anyway, like, fuck. ;-)

Fucking spergs. Where would we be without them, eh?

TL;DR: You can download and burn a CD that will run on your current system to check out Linux. It will either boot in to ram or run off the CD for a live session. You can check if Linux is working for you with this. If you like it, you can make it more permanent by burning the OS (operating system) to Usb stick or SD card or partition your hd (hard disk).

It costs nothing, takes little time to do when you get a hang of it, and can open up a whole new world. It's something you could conceivably do in a couple of hours off in the evening. Pretty soon, you are checking out Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora and distros that load in to RAM like Knoppix or Partition Magic. And when you get a distro that loads to RAM, you will experience a whole new world of snappiness that you never knew existed. It's a wonderful world. And we haven't even got in to using Linux for obfuscation or subterfuge or shenanigans yet, but first things first...

Post: #43

Get this: you can now run Ubuntu inside Windows 10. Native bash. It's supported by Microsoft! Actually tried it on my surface and was able to SSH and do what I needed to do.

You have to Google the install instructions.

Post: #44

My first distro was mandrake linux 8.1. Must of been around 2001-2003. Just pulled out the manual while cleaning my room. The company is no longer in existence.

Post: #45

(12-04-2016 11:14 PM)pheonix500000 Wrote:  we already have a linux thread

/thread-46477.html

Seriously, I created a Linux thread a while ago, for those interested in switching from Windows to Linux:
/thread-17653.html

Post: #46

I went all the way with arch today and got everything running in about 6 hours. Wifi was a nuisance, but I'll keep you posted with my thoughts. I have been long time user of Windows and Mac, and figured I could bring the best of both worlds together, and also stop paying money to large corporations.

Post: #47

(09-09-2017 08:38 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  I went all the way with arch today and got everything running in about 6 hours. Wifi was a nuisance, but I'll keep you posted with my thoughts. I have been long time user of Windows and Mac, and figured I could bring the best of both worlds together, and also stop paying money to large corporations.

Update: It's been about 12 hours with this OS and I'm never going back to Mac or windows. The ability to make everything so customizable and install packages via repositories versus going to individual websites or github is amazing, and the community around it is incredibly helpful. I'd highly recommend taking the day or so it takes to learn, you'll be blown away.

Post: #48

Anyone know a screen recording software for Linux comparable to Camtasia?

I've been running Linux for a couple years now and only boot into Windows if I need to do some screen recording.

Post: #49

(09-11-2017 06:24 AM)Atomic Wrote:  Anyone know a screen recording software for Linux comparable to Camtasia?

I've been running Linux for a couple years now and only boot into Windows if I need to do some screen recording.

those are the ubuntu suggestions, so they should be available for debian too
vokoscreen
recordmydesktop
kazam
VLC player?

Post: #50

(09-11-2017 01:55 PM)void Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 06:24 AM)Atomic Wrote:  Anyone know a screen recording software for Linux comparable to Camtasia?

I've been running Linux for a couple years now and only boot into Windows if I need to do some screen recording.

those are the ubuntu suggestions, so they should be available for debian too
vokoscreen
recordmydesktop
kazam
VLC player?

Use voko and recordmydesktop. Not impressed.

It's not a big deal as it doesn't take much for my to boot I to Windows or fire up a MacBook. But it is the only thing I haven't been able to find a respectable Linux alternative too.

So for anyone who doesn't need screen recording, Linux distros will do anything you want them too. Just like a good little whore.