Post: #101

Samseau, calling a form of dancing sophisticated and another dry humping is subjective, not factual. It depends on the scene you are in, you are not part of the Caribbean community so your style won't work there and vice versa (as to whatever community you associate with).

Speaking English works in English communities but it doesn't work in Spanish communities and vice versa. It doesn't make one style better than the other.

Post: #102

(09-03-2017 01:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 06:11 PM)realologist Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 05:56 PM)Chowder Head Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 05:19 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 05:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  As for daggering itself: does it actually get a guy laid or just leave him with blue balls? Without proper logistics, daggering seems like a massive waste of time.

I thought you said you were a dancer and that was part of your game?

Maybe he only dances with proper logistics.

Dance logistics... Music?

Pretty tough to find that.

Moma:

The amount of lays I have from skilled, sophisticated dancing, versus dry humping is something like 3:1 for me.

Maybe some guys crush it with regular caveman game, but in my experience all that happens when you get a girl hot and bothered (pua lingo: you raise her buying temp) and manage to pull her away from her friends or out of the club, you still have the problem that her horny state will rapidly decrease from there on out. You have a golden window of roughly 30 minutes if you can get them to a fuck location which brings us to the point, "proper logistics."

Chowder, Realologist:

If you don't have a place to quickly bang, then you end up having to spend more time building comfort with the woman and getting her somewhere to bang (apartment, bathroom, alleyway, etc). In this time many things will go wrong. Her friends will call her, she will get hungry, she will get bored, or she suddenly will get cold feet as her buying temp falls and find an excuse to leave/ditch you. Or you just get a super flakey number.

With more sophisticated dancing, where the man actually can demonstrate his skill and strength without having dry sex on the dancefloor, you can get a girl interested enough to want to continue her time with you but not so much she gets hot and bothered. Instead of needing a place within 30 minutes, I can go for the bang within a week. Rather than just make a woman feel sexually aroused, which any meathead can do, I can make a girl feel happy and have a great big smile on her face from the rest of the evening. That is how you get laid my friends.

The more time a man has the easier the bang is, obviously, so my opinion and experience of super sexual dancing is that it is boring and ineffective because of its short window of opportunity. It is the less experienced men who like the caveman dancing because it is novel for them and they get excited from penis stimulation, but anyone who does that for six months at most will quickly realize you mostly get blue balls and not bangs.

That said, there are most certainly differences between dancing with Black and White/Asian women. I can see why daggering is the main go to move at a Carnival. Black women enjoy more aggressive behavior from men and dancing, but I can still do that without dry humping on the dance floor. Relying on dry humping as your main dance move is what amateur dancers do.

It's one thing to use sexual dancing when you're somewhere on vacation and the hotel has a massive party downstairs - you can get a girl worked up and take her up to your room, pronto. But in the middle of large city with big crowds, slow public transportation, and a thousand cockblocks, daggering does not seem very helpful at all other than to be a party animal and perhaps get a girl interested through preselection.

You took that way too deep and are way too angry. We were fucking with you because you came out with a dancing data sheet but criticize a guy having fun and DANCING whether it's not proper, caveman, unsophisticated, whatever. It doesn't matter. Guy is dancing, having fun and probably got laid. Don't take it so serious, just like he didn't daggering all these chicks.

Post: #103

(09-03-2017 01:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  That said, there are most certainly differences between dancing with Black and White/Asian women. I can see why daggering is the main go to move at a Carnival. Black women enjoy more aggressive behavior from men and dancing, but I can still do that without dry humping on the dance floor.

From that video, it looks like white lizards like it aggressive as well. I think you should incorporate a little daggering into your waltz.

Post: #104

20 years ago I first heard of this and pics keep popping out everywhere I see, I'm starting to think that I missed something great...

(09-03-2017 03:21 PM)Chowder Head Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 01:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  That said, there are most certainly differences between dancing with Black and White/Asian women. I can see why daggering is the main go to move at a Carnival. Black women enjoy more aggressive behavior from men and dancing, but I can still do that without dry humping on the dance floor.

From that video, it looks like white lizards like it aggressive as well. I think you should incorporate a little daggering into your waltz.

Daggering seems to mean the foreplay for...

Post: #105

(09-03-2017 01:57 PM)Moma Wrote:  Samseau, calling a form of dancing sophisticated and another dry humping is subjective, not factual.

While there is a great deal of subjectivity when judging a dance, the idea that dry humping involves skill or technique is simply absurd. Daggering is dry humping, which anyone with a pair of eyes can see. In fact, to even call daggering a dance is already stretching the limits of reason.

Quote: It depends on the scene you are in, you are not part of the Caribbean community so your style won't work there and vice versa (as to whatever community you associate with).

Whether or not a dance works has nothing to do with whether or not the dance has skill or talent.

Sure daggering can work in some places sometimes. But efficacy is what really matters, and that's the point of my critique.

Quote:Speaking English works in English communities but it doesn't work in Spanish communities and vice versa. It doesn't make one style better than the other.

A good dancer barely needs spoken languages...

Chowder Head:

Quote:From that video, it looks like white lizards like it aggressive as well. I think you should incorporate a little daggering into your waltz.

Those White girls are the types who enjoy Black culture or else they wouldn't be there. No doubt they would be more open to the dagger.

But there are better ways to give girls tingles than crotch rubbing, believe it or not. Much better swooping techniques.

Realologist:

Quote:You took that way too deep and are way too angry. We were fucking with you because you came out with a dancing data sheet but criticize a guy having fun and DANCING whether it's not proper, caveman, unsophisticated, whatever. It doesn't matter. Guy is dancing, having fun and probably got laid. Don't take it so serious, just like he didn't daggering all these chicks.

Deep and angry? Or more likely you're the kind of guy who is more concerned with looking cool instead of doing a bit of critical analysis to improve your lay rate.

Sorry I tried to teach you, I won't make that mistake next time.

Post: #106

I say love like you've never been hurt, and dagger like no one is watching.

Aloha!

Post: #107

(09-03-2017 03:04 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 05:43 AM)not-a-pua Wrote:  This is some degenerate shit.
UK needs to be cleansed.
As VDARE's Peter Brimelows father told him about the WW2 victory, witnessing how the UK evolved: "Wasn't worth it".

The UK's - actually the British Empire's - role in WW2 is the greatest pyrrhic victory to have never been recorded by mainstream English-speaking historians. Yet the post-WW2 decline and collapse is the Matrix that the Redpilled man of the former White Commonwealth notices every day.

The dog-like dry humping of an officer of the Crown in public as baying fat, drunk and tattooed English women celebrate the policewomen's enrichment is just another fruit of Britain's glorious "victory" which has also given the country the ignominy of "Rotherham".

"The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer mind their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching." - Quote from an Assyrian tablet 2800BC.

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." - Attributed to Socrates (469–399 BC).

Post: #108

^ ^ Maybe we should move this daggering discussion to the deep thread.

Here's one: Its not about weathering the storm, it learning to dagger in the rain.

Aloha!

Post: #109

^ exactly. People said the same thing about Elvis's dancing. Personally I believe we should have open and liberal attitudes towards heterosexual sexuality, as this is the opposite of what the liberals want (liberal stance towards gay and lesbian sexuality, and strict controls on male sexuality). I'd sooner swap Jamaica's attitudes to sex and sexuality with ours any day of the week as they're liberal where they should be, and conservative where they should be.

Post: #110

(09-04-2017 12:10 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 03:04 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 05:43 AM)not-a-pua Wrote:  This is some degenerate shit.
UK needs to be cleansed.
As VDARE's Peter Brimelows father told him about the WW2 victory, witnessing how the UK evolved: "Wasn't worth it".

The UK's - actually the British Empire's - role in WW2 is the greatest pyrrhic victory to have never been recorded by mainstream English-speaking historians. Yet the post-WW2 decline and collapse is the Matrix that the Redpilled man of the former White Commonwealth notices every day.

The dog-like dry humping of an officer of the Crown in public as baying fat, drunk and tattooed English women celebrate the policewomen's enrichment is just another fruit of Britain's glorious "victory" which has also given the country the ignominy of "Rotherham".

"The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer mind their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching." - Quote from an Assyrian tablet 2800BC.

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." - Attributed to Socrates (469–399 BC).

You proved his point nicely. Both quotes, from Assyria and Socrates, are right before the collapse and destruction of each society. Assyria got raped by the Akkadians, and Athens went into permanent decline losing almost everything in the Peloponnesian War, and then getting conquered by Alexander the Great.

Post: #111

I didn't see proper Jamaica daggering and those doing it the girl seemed a bit concious of her surroundings and a lot of "outsiders" watching might have put her off. It strikes me as a no fucks given move orchestrated by the man but at night it would be all over the place

Post: #112

You guys are so funny. Stop hamstering.

1. Every girl likes aggressive guys (even if she says otherwise). No aggressive guy I've ever met has trouble getting laid but damn near 50% of "thoughtful" guys I know needed to get decent at game to start getting their pulls.

2. Dirty dancing can short circuit the fuck out of a lizard's lizard brain (the sexy brain) if you know what you're doing. If you say otherwise, then you've clearly never been to a cookout with non-white people.

3. This guy has game.

If everyone went out on Saturday night with the intention of having as much fun as this guy I guaran-fucking-tee most of us would pull. Guys severely underestimate how important having fun is.

Sitting at the bar in your best suit and limply drinking your favorite cocktail is cool and "high level," but the guy out there having fun can out do you if all you're relying on is "superior gaming knowledge." People are emotional creatures. If you are having spontaneous, great fun you're triggering all sorts of emotions that PUAs spend years trying to trick people into feeling.

There is a reason the Chad meme exists. he's the dude breaking all the rules you built up and still pulling hot bitches on the strength of his IDGAF attitude, looks and ability to get in the moment.

If you're having a great time people will want to be around you. You're controlling the energy of the room at that point and that's just a step away from being the leader of all the important interactions going on.

Post: #113

I can't dance for peanuts and to be honest, I don't enjoy it all that much to ever learn but the moment IDGAF on the dance floor the pussy becomes a whole lot easier. I had no idea what the term daggering meant before reading this thread, but I'm all for it. It's just about the only dancing I can do.

Post: #114

(09-03-2017 09:16 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Chowder Head:

Quote:From that video, it looks like white lizards like it aggressive as well. I think you should incorporate a little daggering into your waltz.

Those White girls are the types who enjoy Black culture or else they wouldn't be there. No doubt they would be more open to the dagger.

But there are better ways to give girls tingles than crotch rubbing, believe it or not. Much better swooping techniques.

So I went to the San Gennaro Feast in NYC a couple of times -- does that mean I ENJOY Italian culture? They just went to carnival to have fun -- listen to music/dance (get daggered). They don't give a fuck about black culture. Lighten up Francis -- its not the end of the world.

Post: #115

(09-01-2017 02:59 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 06:54 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 05:25 PM)Samseau Wrote:  This also looks like it was at Carnival, yet I cannot help but agree that it's basically sexually assaulting police officers who are too scared to push back:

The idea of a large scale female police force is a total joke by the way, it's amazing London hasn't degenerated even more than it already has.

People can criticize the USA police all they want, but damn, in USA that would be considered assault against a law enforcement. That guy would be teased, mazzed and he would be the one pinned against the ground.

Almost forgot, UK police does not even have guns.

What part of the US can I find female cops like in this video?

(09-01-2017 06:12 AM)blck Wrote:  Must have been an epic weekend

UK police on average see themselves as "part of the community" so sometimes you can joke with them. I've spoken to LAPD officers, who have described their jobs as being a warzone. I got the sense that you shouldn't fuck with them.

USA police see themselves as part of the community when is small cities and small towns.

Big cities are always a problem because they are under progressives control.

Post: #116

(09-04-2017 08:46 AM)Fortis Wrote:  If you're having a great time people will want to be around you. You're controlling the energy of the room at that point and that's just a step away from being the leader of all the important interactions going on.

This guy fucks