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RE: I Love Montreal: Data Sheet
(08-28-2017 10:31 AM)corsega Wrote: (08-23-2017 01:14 PM)corsega Wrote: (08-20-2017 10:07 AM)Lermontov Wrote: (08-20-2017 08:30 AM)corsega Wrote: Any Tinder-specific advice for an American guy visiting Montreal for 7 days? Every city's Tinder culture is different, trying to get a feel for Montreal.
Do girls respond to directness/sexual messages?
Is it OK to say you're just visiting or are they tired of tourists?
I speak French.
I hope that you are very good looking and have great pictures, or else you'd better walk around Mont-Royal / Saint-Denis streets, around laurier street/laurier park and cold approach every cute girl you see, the ROI will probably be much higher than spending time on Tinder in Montreal. I live in that area and always see many cute girls passing infront of my place when it's sunny, it's shocking.
On Tinder, I'd go direct and say I'm visiting, personnally. Good luck.
Not good looking, but do have good photos.
I've not ever been to a city where daygame approaches were higher ROI than Tinder. Especially since I work most of the day whenever I travel.
Findings from a week in Montreal: it's almost impossible to bang a decent-looking girl while you're on vacation in a touristy city unless you're Chad. Especially with bad logistics (I was sharing a room so I had to find a girl that could host).
50 Tinder matches, 2 Bumble messages, and opened 50+ girls on Instagram the week I was there.
Had two 6s that were into it but wouldn't see me because they weren't looking for a hookup and I was just visiting. 6 girls (all average-looking) responded positively to DTF opener. Made plans with one but she lived with her family so I bailed.
Had a 5 I messaged on Instagram drive 20 minutes to pick me up from my apartment, take me to her gym and work out with her, nothing happened because she lived with her family and my bad logistics, she wasn't down to have sex in public even though I tried to escalate.
As Murphy's Law dictates, had three girls down to meet the night I ended up leaving early. One even opened me on Instagram. Never happens.
Your experience is close to mine , Montreal is the hardest city for bangs in North America, you should know that girls here take the lead , they will refuse hook up for sure and they will date many times and if you do even a simple mistake they will leave you. They have plenty of choices.
Also you get lucky , you didnt try Montreal nightlife , you will hate this city more and more.
Hook up still possibl in MTL though , sometimes you can find girls coming from anglosphere part of Canada or US . Those are more open and liberal about casual sex .
For some reasons i have to stay in Quebec , i am planing to move to QUEBEC CITY , do anyone here lived or visited there ? are girls easier and different than those Montreal bitches ?
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RE: I Love Montreal: Data Sheet
Sounds like a mess Corsega. This is why I don't think online or appss game leads anywhere.
Interesting fact..
- Montreal has one of the highest rental populations for 18-35s in North America.
You have a city crawling with bitches with apartments, why was your time glued to your phone?
Also, If a girl lives far away and likes you good chance she would fuck you in her car or at least give you a BJ.
This is just me... But I get the vibe online and apps don't work well in Montreal. My theory is that slow bitches and introverted girls will default to the apps and then let the outgoing kittens get dudes in public (these girls would want to take it slow). I had terrible results with Tinder also, ironically matching with tourists and Toronto girls more. It's s fucking waste of time when you could be talking to girls directly.
--- Corsega ----
Why were you not approaching girls directly Corsega?
How bad where your logistics, what part of the island?
You mention lots of girls that lived with parents, your age? Are you a younger cat?
You speak French which gives you an advantage if many other tourists, why didn't you use this to your advantage?
Also a 6/100 conversation ratio is terrible, you could have approached 6 girls every single day while you were there. I understand you had your already established schedule, and your own data that shows Tinder as preferable, but Montreal is a different animal. It isn't like other North America cities as the women all have a different vibe there.
Also, 7 days is lots. You could of easily pretended you just moved there and set up multiple dates with girls.
Why can't people just tell a little lie? Girls lie to dudes all the time, who cares. Just tell girls you recently moved to MTL and are still searching for an apartment for Sept if they ask.
In the end Corsega-- you would of been wise to filter girls with logistics and set up dates for the evening post work. You would of converted those girls that nice into bangs or set it up for a weekend slam dunk or fallbscknplan after swooping in public.
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RE: I Love Montreal: Data Sheet
(09-04-2017 10:50 AM)kosko Wrote: --- Corsega ----
Why were you not approaching girls directly Corsega?
How bad where your logistics, what part of the island?
You mention lots of girls that lived with parents, your age? Are you a younger cat?
You speak French which gives you an advantage if many other tourists, why didn't you use this to your advantage?
Also a 6/100 conversation ratio is terrible, you could have approached 6 girls every single day while you were there. I understand you had your already established schedule, and your own data that shows Tinder as preferable, but Montreal is a different animal. It isn't like other North America cities as the women all have a different vibe there.
Also, 7 days is lots. You could of easily pretended you just moved there and set up multiple dates with girls.
Why can't people just tell a little lie? Girls lie to dudes all the time, who cares. Just tell girls you recently moved to MTL and are still searching for an apartment for Sept if they ask.
In the end Corsega-- you would of been wise to filter girls with logistics and set up dates for the evening post work. You would of converted those girls that nice into bangs or set it up for a weekend slam dunk or fallbscknplan after swooping in public.
Didn't approach girls directly because I was there for work and was with colleagues pretty much 20+ hours a day. Game was just a distant priority for enjoying time with coworkers and getting work done.
We were staying in Hochelaga. So not the most DHV neighborhood. I'm 30, I tend to go after girls from 18-25. I was focusing on the higher end of that scale, though, because I wanted a girl with her own place.
I did speak to most of the girls in French on Tinder, of course I got a couple English Quebecois girls that were like "Don't talk to me in French". The rest were appreciative.
I think next time I'll just tell a little white lie.
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RE: I Love Montreal: Data Sheet
I throw in a few quick observations here from when I was there last week.
In the past I've done well at Abreuvoir, but didn't make it there this time due to a conflict of interest with my friend and a bouncer. Saturday we went to a bar called Nesta. The ratio was great, talent was solid as well. Had 2 good options, made out with one but she left.. then met an Olympic athlete who I hit it off with pretty well, but she was with a group of friends she hadn't seen in some time and they weren't letting that happen. Sunday we started at Musique.. it was busy and there was some talent, but I'm more into bars than clubs. We bounced over to Apartment 200 at 2am or so and I wish we had gone earlier as it was popping. Made out with a Finnish girl there but she had a boyfriend and couldn't get her home.
Tuesday I went to the Mundo Lingo language exchange. We arrived at 8:30 or so.. I didn't have the highest expectations, but it ended up being really good. It was $10 cover.. that gave you coat check and some crazy good drink deals, $1 beers for a while, $10 liters and 25 shots for $25. The bar was packed, there were quite a few cute foreigners -italians, mexicans, russians, etc- and after the lamer people started to go home at 10pm or so, the more fun people stuck around to drink and some locals joined the mix. I ended up bringing home a local after maybe 20 minutes of chatting at the bar. I'd definitely make that a weekly occasion if I were living in Montreal.
Anyway just some quick thoughts.
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RE: I Love Montreal: Data Sheet
Montreal is my favorite city in NA and I was born and raised in NYC. Compared to NYC, the women in Montreal are so much more feminine and friendly. ONS are not as easy NYC but I would say ONS are more difficult anywhere outside of USA. Frankly, women respect their femininity more everywhere outside of this country.
In terms of how well Americans are received in Montreal, what I've heard often from women and people in general is that they like NY'ers but don't like Americans. I realize how stupid that sounds and I think that mentality comes partly from stereotypes of 'typical' Americans (e.g. overweight, obnoxious, ignorant, frat boy, etc.) and partly from experience. I'm a well put together Pakistani dude and have traveled there in groups including friends that are white/black/Asian/Spanish and we've all done well. As in most places, cocky funny works well but being a gentleman goes a long way here. And of course, there's a ton of strip clubs there with many of the dancers there being 'regular' women who don't mind partying with or even dating 'clients' without a transaction involved (except of course the usual gentleman's club transactions).
In terms of where to go, there's many options but my favorite was Santos in Old Montreal. A more mature crowd and a bit upscale but a great place to chat up girls if your game involves a lot of conversation. Generally speaking, bar hopping in Old Montreal is always a good bet.
Another place is this spot called Buonanotte on St. Laurent. Restaurant that turns into a club at night. Most unbelievably gorgeous bartenders/waitresses/hostesses that I've ever seen. Crowd is mixed as it gets everything from college kids to young professionals to older folks and everything in between.
All in all, I think Montreal has some of the hottest chicks per square mile than anywhere else in North America (I know some people are gonna yell Miami and NYC), but for me, Montreal takes the prize. It has the same level of diversity as NYC with half the attitude, can't beat that in my humble opinion.
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RE: I Love Montreal: Data Sheet
(11-21-2018 03:26 PM)PakMan Wrote: Montreal is my favorite city in NA and I was born and raised in NYC. Compared to NYC, the women in Montreal are so much more feminine and friendly. ONS are not as easy NYC but I would say ONS are more difficult anywhere outside of USA. Frankly, women respect their femininity more everywhere outside of this country.
In terms of how well Americans are received in Montreal, what I've heard often from women and people in general is that they like NY'ers but don't like Americans. I realize how stupid that sounds and I think that mentality comes partly from stereotypes of 'typical' Americans (e.g. overweight, obnoxious, ignorant, frat boy, etc.) and partly from experience. I'm a well put together Pakistani dude and have traveled there in groups including friends that are white/black/Asian/Spanish and we've all done well. As in most places, cocky funny works well but being a gentleman goes a long way here. And of course, there's a ton of strip clubs there with many of the dancers there being 'regular' women who don't mind partying with or even dating 'clients' without a transaction involved (except of course the usual gentleman's club transactions).
In terms of where to go, there's many options but my favorite was Santos in Old Montreal. A more mature crowd and a bit upscale but a great place to chat up girls if your game involves a lot of conversation. Generally speaking, bar hopping in Old Montreal is always a good bet.
Another place is this spot called Buonanotte on St. Laurent. Restaurant that turns into a club at night. Most unbelievably gorgeous bartenders/waitresses/hostesses that I've ever seen. Crowd is mixed as it gets everything from college kids to young professionals to older folks and everything in between.
All in all, I think Montreal has some of the hottest chicks per square mile than anywhere else in North America (I know some people are gonna yell Miami and NYC), but for me, Montreal takes the prize. It has the same level of diversity as NYC with half the attitude, can't beat that in my humble opinion.
Yeah I feel like this is a big factor. A city like New York just feels like everyone is to hypergamous everyone is looking for the next best thing so there is never really much feeling everyone just feels so calculating. Montreal is good because it feels more like it could actually be a place you can call home with more down to earth girls that may even look better to.
How do you feel like being a student in Montreal would be? I often see Montreal listed as the best student city in the world, do you feel that's accurate? I'm looking to have the best student experience possible.
The good looking girls and with them also having good attitudes that would definitely make the city better for me to. Do you really think Montreal girls are the hottest in North America? Hotter then NYC girls I could believe that, but hotter then Miami girls? Maybe cause I have a thing for latinas but Miami seems to have so many fit girls as well as model tier but not just face wise like some in NYC but also body wise cause of Miami beach culture. If Montreal girls really are that good would definitely be the place to be.
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RE: I Love Montreal: Data Sheet
(08-31-2017 12:32 PM)casa-nostra Wrote: (08-28-2017 10:31 AM)corsega Wrote: (08-23-2017 01:14 PM)corsega Wrote: (08-20-2017 10:07 AM)Lermontov Wrote: (08-20-2017 08:30 AM)corsega Wrote: Any Tinder-specific advice for an American guy visiting Montreal for 7 days? Every city's Tinder culture is different, trying to get a feel for Montreal.
Do girls respond to directness/sexual messages?
Is it OK to say you're just visiting or are they tired of tourists?
I speak French.
I hope that you are very good looking and have great pictures, or else you'd better walk around Mont-Royal / Saint-Denis streets, around laurier street/laurier park and cold approach every cute girl you see, the ROI will probably be much higher than spending time on Tinder in Montreal. I live in that area and always see many cute girls passing infront of my place when it's sunny, it's shocking.
On Tinder, I'd go direct and say I'm visiting, personnally. Good luck.
Not good looking, but do have good photos.
I've not ever been to a city where daygame approaches were higher ROI than Tinder. Especially since I work most of the day whenever I travel.
Findings from a week in Montreal: it's almost impossible to bang a decent-looking girl while you're on vacation in a touristy city unless you're Chad. Especially with bad logistics (I was sharing a room so I had to find a girl that could host).
50 Tinder matches, 2 Bumble messages, and opened 50+ girls on Instagram the week I was there.
Had two 6s that were into it but wouldn't see me because they weren't looking for a hookup and I was just visiting. 6 girls (all average-looking) responded positively to DTF opener. Made plans with one but she lived with her family so I bailed.
Had a 5 I messaged on Instagram drive 20 minutes to pick me up from my apartment, take me to her gym and work out with her, nothing happened because she lived with her family and my bad logistics, she wasn't down to have sex in public even though I tried to escalate.
As Murphy's Law dictates, had three girls down to meet the night I ended up leaving early. One even opened me on Instagram. Never happens.
Your experience is close to mine , Montreal is the hardest city for bangs in North America, you should know that girls here take the lead , they will refuse hook up for sure and they will date many times and if you do even a simple mistake they will leave you. They have plenty of choices.
Also you get lucky , you didnt try Montreal nightlife , you will hate this city more and more.
Hook up still possibl in MTL though , sometimes you can find girls coming from anglosphere part of Canada or US . Those are more open and liberal about casual sex .
For some reasons i have to stay in Quebec , i am planing to move to QUEBEC CITY , do anyone here lived or visited there ? are girls easier and different than those Montreal bitches ?
(09-04-2017 01:23 PM)NKD Wrote: Tinder in Montreal is just horrible during summer months, in winter the results tend to be better (Still not that great)
Also being American doesn't help at all! Either Quebecer or Arab or Black... Other than that, forget it. Arabs have the least success tho!
Forum members here are just abit deluded, since day game or even night game leads to nowhere in that city.
You also said you speak french, makes no difference because once they see you don't have the Quebec accent .. it's game over. If you've actually interacted with the people from the French community (From France) they would tell you that they never get along with Quebecers. The french accent is actually going to be a problem more than an advantage.
It's a tough city, I consider it a waste of time and money. Better chance To get laid in Saudi Arabia than Montreal.. sarcasm ofc but trying to send a message
Weird I read a lot of the datasheet previously people have been positive about the city but now a lot of people are saying the city is much harder. Has something in Montreal changed recently? Also is it really that much of a touristy city? Compared to like Toronto how would you compare how many tourists there are in Montreal? I guess a lot of tourists in a city can change the dynamic a lot. Considering going to school in Montreal so it could be a good place to check out since it's rated as the #1 student city in the world.
That's another thing, Montreal being rated as the #1 student city in the world and having one of the highest student densities I would think it would be one of the best cities in the world for getting girls since a lot of people say Quebec girls are some of the hottest in the world. Do you guys have much experience with the student girls in Montreal? And do you think Montreal would be an enjoyable place to go to school both in general and getting girls wise.
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