Post: #26

(06-21-2017 11:32 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 11:11 AM)jackal9696 Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 09:09 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 10:02 PM)jackal9696 Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 08:07 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  Dated a couple of Chinese gals back in college. However, this was 20+ years ago, so the observations and advice I give may not be 100% applicable to today:

The Chinese women (Koreans also) I went to college with (STEM) or knew from another college close by (Ivy League) came from Tiger Mother (and Father) households. They had such intense parental control that they were a fish out of water when it came to not having 24/7 scheduling and surveillance by Mom & Dad.

For Chinese girls in particular, they seem to have a peer group misery enforcement squad. The one girl I dated the longest would be really happy when she was with me. In absence (separation due to school work... we were both STEM.. heavy school work load ) she would get depressed and want to break up with me. Turns out her friends (all Chinese women) would hammer her about dating this not so attractive white guy. I am convinced they just hated her seeing her happy as my Gf's friends were all pretty much alone and miserable. Note: None of these girls were fat or ugly.... they themselves and the the Chinese men around them came from such a controlled environment that romantic relationships were just on an almost permanent 'stall'. Having a friend who had a guy who loved her and took her places.... well... jealously in spades.

After taking my girl on a ski trip to Vermont, one of her "friends" called up her parents back in Taiwan and spilled the beans on me. My poor GF got verbally hammered by her parents, which caused her all sorts of anxiety. Our relationship ended not too long after that.

If you come across an Asian girl who is a 'black sheep' (often second generation) and wants to break away from the Tiger Mom hell, you are in luck. They can be a lot of fun. They will go for a 'white guy' not because you are white but because you are far removed from the world they are trying to escape. If you come across a girl like that.. Carpe Diem! I did 13 years ago with a 'black sheep' from Thailand. It has been a very good marriage.

So your past GF's social circle essentially cockblocked you, huh? On the other hand, I'm glad that it worked out for you with that Thai girl.

This is why I said you need to get good at circle penetration befriending everyone in that Chinese circle.

Trust me when I say this matters. I spoke decent Mandarin back in college. They all make fun of white dudes with yellowfever that approach them with no interest whatsoever in Mandarin, Chinese or Taiwanese culture, or anything else they are interested in. Like plenty Taiwanese are Christians and go to church or bible study with others. Mainlanders might be interested in table tennis, badminton, Chinese card games, or nothing at all (which makes shit much harder).

My eye opening experience was that I went to a school party at a club. We won something but I forgot what that was. Anyway, I saw a circle of Chinese girls. I left my bros as they were trying to pull black girls like we always do (I never had any interest in dating Chinese women back in those days). I went over introduced myself in Mandarin, exchanged names, etc. Asked a very cute 7 to dance with me. She said okay. I was surprised, so I danced with her for maybe 30 mins, she really liked me, and I spoke Mandarin in her ear the whole time to get to know her and break more ice.

Her friend comes and pulls her away when I was about to get her phone number!

Biggest cockblock ever!

My brother and his friends laughed at me hardcore and told me even though you speak their language they ain't fucking with no niggas! Their words affected me enough to never try that again until after I had gotten a divorce many years later from a black woman.

I tell you this story because you cannot get frustrated with cockblocks with Chinese or any Asians for that matter. When they are away from their own homes, their circles make them feel safe. I figured out how to penetrate these circles of Chinese and Taiwanese college and out of college girls, before going to China directly, but it took alot of work. After I had made trips to China, several of them all but fought over me back home. I got stories for days, but the point is that you need to use outside the box game thinking. Lifting and being an egghead or just white ain't game. Being a swol ass black kid with decent Mandarin ain't game either.

Learn how they work and deconstruct how they operate, then you will be ready to strike with efficiency working off their own jealously within their own circles.

Fuck man, why are you giving me this information for free!? You could write a "Bang China by TravelerKai" and profit off of beta dudes with yellow fever like me.
This made me think. You can call me out or whatever but how do you befriend Chinese dudes without being a phony? I mean sure I could learn Mandarin.
A common interest perhaps? At college, I've never seen a Asian dude. I work out at a large gym but I've only seen very few Asian dudes whom I could befriend. Or should I take up an Asian martial art?

I have posted lightly in the past about Chinese outside of China but I have no interest in writing a book on that. Enjoy the tip. I predict by next year I might not post in Game section again. Someone else needs to step up and fill voids as others find new plateaus to overcome. Maybe it can be you on gaming Chinese women.

See if they like Basketball or other things. You won't find them at the gym, but you could try inviting them to the gym to do some light workouts (go easy on them). They are dudes. You can figure that out by talking to them. Most men let others know in lots of ways if you are irritating them, it's not that serious. You make friends with 3 or 4 Chinese dudes, you more often than not, find yourself being invited over for their little get togethers with all the others including the girls. Regardless you can use them to toss off notions of thirst and fever with the ladies. If they are on Facebook, add all the mofos you can add. Make yourself a member of the circle as a whole, because to them their world is small. If you bring non college student Chinese into the circle, that can also throw off more scent and build alot of social proof.

All right. I think now I'm armed with enough knowledge to make this happen

Post: #27

Asian girls are flakey and uncommunicative until they're committed to you. Forget romantic stuff, I've had normal-ass friendships randomly dissolve plenty of times. When things change in their lives not everyone gets the memo and they'll just go away.

From my experience cockiness and assertiveness are really key but only to a point. I've had my best success from just presenting myself as a unique source of fun and capitalizing on every opportunity I saw, both real and imagined. If she likes you you can make the same mistake a dozen times before she gets mad but if you don't kiss/grope/fuck her when its possible there's a good chance you'll just never get the chance to later. There's a saying in Japan: "Girls are like Christmas cakes; after the 25th nobody wants them" and that shit scars women to the point that by their mid 20s their friends and family will start pipelining for them to give them marriage material. This sort of pressure makes fun diversions really appealing. I fucked a girl that's engaged now specifically because she was caught up in this process and a hot white dude showing her a good time was too much to pass up despite having her beta locked up.

I only started learning game actually in Asia but whenever I'm traveling the same sort of idea works on the backpackers I meet. Fun assertiveness is the way to go. Negging and shit doesn't go over well because even strong English speakers might not get the idea that you're joking. Just proving that you don't care much about rules but aren't a socially handicapped loser for it is enough to get traction.

Post: #28

All decent advice.

I'd just like to add that sometimes it is best to keep things on the downlow, you do not want her parents to find out about her non-Asian boyfriend.

Post: #29

Alright, so 2 days ago I got the number of a cute Chinese girl. Used the pet shop opener. Texted her today.

Me: "Still haven't found a suitable pet. Thinking about just stealing a random cat off the street. What are you up to?"
Her: "Seriously? haven't seen homeless cat in Germany"
Me: "They are all hiding from you cause they know you are a bad girl "
Her: "ehmm that's not true"
Me: "Oh really. I'm not sure I believe you..."

Tried being cocky and sexual but probably backfired. Don't know if it's that she's not a native speaker of English or if that kind of stuff just doesn't work with Chinese girls. Maybe it's cause when I approached her, I didn't really make it sexual or touched her at all, so now it's weird for her. It's hard to tell for me. I feel like she just doesn't really get jokes and she took what I said literally and now thinks that I think she is literally a bad person. She hasn't responded to my last text for half a day, even though previous responses were 7-30 minutes. Should I tell her that "you know I was just joking around yesterday" or something like that? Any hope of salvaging this?

Post: #30

If there is a language barrier, clowning around works better than verbal teasing.

Post: #31

I'm surprised that nobody here has mentioned food - a lot of east Asian women love food and post Yelp reviews. If you know where to go to get the good stuff they are highly impressed.

I've gone out to eat with Chinese women that I've been banging at Chinese restaurants in the San Gabriel Valley (area east of LA which is where you get genuine Chinese food)...then when I meet a new Chinese woman I tell her I tried that same place with some "friends". She gets impressed, I bang her then get further restaurant information from her and use it on other Chinese girls. That way I have a good knowledge of what's the coolest places to eat at.

It's now got to the situation that when I talk with Chinese co-workers who are born and raised in the San Gabriel Valley, I seemed to have been to more places than they have.

Chinese women are pretty predictable food wise - they tend to like Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Thai, Mongolian food...most hate Indian food and don't care for Mexican food. They're also big on shaved ice, frozen yoghurt and Chinese bakeries. If you know where these places are they'll think you'll know more about their culture - learn about the difference in Chinese foods from different regions.

I have a lot of knowledge of Chinese culture, and this stems from asking women I've banged about their culture, in addition to having Chinese friends. I'm British-Indian so they're even more impressed when they hear it coming from me, since a lot of Indians in the US are pretty cliquey with other Indians.

(06-27-2017 06:06 PM)Thinking Out Loud Wrote:  Tried being cocky and sexual but probably backfired. Don't know if it's that she's not a native speaker of English or if that kind of stuff just doesn't work with Chinese girls.

Never talk about sex with Chinese girls, just be more proactive and get more touchy feely with them and see how they respond. Chinese culture is very conservative and a lot of Chinese women don't like to talk about sex.

With western women you can sexualise the conversation pretty fast, but Chinese women are a lot more coy. They're usually only open to talking about sex after you've banged them since they're more comfortable.

Post: #32

(06-27-2017 06:40 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Never talk about sex with Chinese girls, just be more proactive and get more touchy feely with them and see how they respond. Chinese culture is very conservative and a lot of Chinese women don't like to talk about sex.

With western women you can sexualise the conversation pretty fast, but Chinese women are a lot more coy. They're usually only open to talking about sex after you've banged them since they're more comfortable.

Thank you. Anything you think I can still do to save this one?

Post: #33

Never mind, I texted her "did I scare you away you know I was just joking around, right?". But she didn't reply. I can't believe I let that fish off my hook.

Post: #34

(06-27-2017 06:06 PM)Thinking Out Loud Wrote:  Alright, so 2 days ago I got the number of a cute Chinese girl. Used the pet shop opener. Texted her today.

Me: "Still haven't found a suitable pet. Thinking about just stealing a random cat off the street. What are you up to?"
Her: "Seriously? haven't seen homeless cat in Germany"
Me: "They are all hiding from you cause they know you are a bad girl "
Her: "ehmm that's not true"
Me: "Oh really. I'm not sure I believe you..."

This is just sloppy and tone deaf. Your first message is too long and obviously over-thought. Your second message is a non-sequitur and thus appears creepy. By the third message you're already done.

Keep texting to LOGISTICS. Cease and desist all attempts at humour via SMS and you will have better luck.

Post: #35

(06-28-2017 05:38 PM)churros Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 06:06 PM)Thinking Out Loud Wrote:  Alright, so 2 days ago I got the number of a cute Chinese girl. Used the pet shop opener. Texted her today.

Me: "Still haven't found a suitable pet. Thinking about just stealing a random cat off the street. What are you up to?"
Her: "Seriously? haven't seen homeless cat in Germany"
Me: "They are all hiding from you cause they know you are a bad girl "
Her: "ehmm that's not true"
Me: "Oh really. I'm not sure I believe you..."

This is just sloppy and tone deaf. Your first message is too long and obviously over-thought. Your second message is a non-sequitur and thus appears creepy. By the third message you're already done.

Keep texting to LOGISTICS. Cease and desist all attempts at humour via SMS and you will have better luck.

Thanks for the advice. So it's not just because she's Asian?

Post: #36

(06-28-2017 05:46 PM)Thinking Out Loud Wrote:  

(06-28-2017 05:38 PM)churros Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 06:06 PM)Thinking Out Loud Wrote:  Alright, so 2 days ago I got the number of a cute Chinese girl. Used the pet shop opener. Texted her today.

Me: "Still haven't found a suitable pet. Thinking about just stealing a random cat off the street. What are you up to?"
Her: "Seriously? haven't seen homeless cat in Germany"
Me: "They are all hiding from you cause they know you are a bad girl "
Her: "ehmm that's not true"
Me: "Oh really. I'm not sure I believe you..."

This is just sloppy and tone deaf. Your first message is too long and obviously over-thought. Your second message is a non-sequitur and thus appears creepy. By the third message you're already done.

Keep texting to LOGISTICS. Cease and desist all attempts at humour via SMS and you will have better luck.

Thanks for the advice. So it's not just because she's Asian?

Do yourself a favor, keep anything relating to cats and Asians out of the conversation for a while. Don't let her think you are stereotyping.

Aloha!

Post: #37

(06-28-2017 09:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(06-28-2017 05:46 PM)Thinking Out Loud Wrote:  

(06-28-2017 05:38 PM)churros Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 06:06 PM)Thinking Out Loud Wrote:  Alright, so 2 days ago I got the number of a cute Chinese girl. Used the pet shop opener. Texted her today.

Me: "Still haven't found a suitable pet. Thinking about just stealing a random cat off the street. What are you up to?"
Her: "Seriously? haven't seen homeless cat in Germany"
Me: "They are all hiding from you cause they know you are a bad girl "
Her: "ehmm that's not true"
Me: "Oh really. I'm not sure I believe you..."

This is just sloppy and tone deaf. Your first message is too long and obviously over-thought. Your second message is a non-sequitur and thus appears creepy. By the third message you're already done.

Keep texting to LOGISTICS. Cease and desist all attempts at humour via SMS and you will have better luck.

Thanks for the advice. So it's not just because she's Asian?

Do yourself a favor, keep anything relating to cats and Asians out of the conversation for a while. Don't let her think you are stereotyping.

Aloha!

Well, I opened her asking for a pet shop and she said in the conversation that she has a dog and a cat back at home in China, that she misses, so it was the first thing that came to mind.

Post: #38

(06-20-2017 03:23 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  It sounds like you are somewhat of a beginner when it comes to game. I don't say that to call you out, but more so to point out that I'm guessing you don't know how to calibrate to the situation.

If you are currently being very direct and it isn't working, try being indirect, at least at first. I currently do not have much success with Asian women for my own reasons, but the ones that I do get numbers from are generally all foreign born.

I've found that if I go indirect and know some facts about their country it gives them a chance to begin a conversation without the pressure of attraction overwhelming them. You have to keep in mind that Chinese culture is not very warm blooded compared to other parts of the world. That doesn't mean that they are all cold people, just that they are more reserved with their affection.

The first foreign born Chinese girl I got with a while back told me after a couple of dates that her parents didn't really kiss her growing up and that was a much more common thing in China than in the West. For that reason I think it is best to just do what you can to get a conversation going until you see her open up, then go for the number. After you get the number make your moves down the line.

I've tried going indirect with Asian girls, but most of the time the conversation is very short, because they either don't speak my language that well, I assume, or because they don't know the answer to what I'm asking. I went indirect in a supermarket yesterday on a really beautiful Asian girl.

"Are those good?" (Pointing at the peaches in her basket)
"Yes."
"Have you ever tried them before?"
"Yes."
She moves away from me
"Ok, thanks."

I tried it on 2 other girls, presumably German, and they both were more receptive, answering with "I don't know, I've never tried it, I've been wondering that, too" and being able to joke around with them a bit before the conversation died down.

When moving through the city I usually go with Pet Shop, but often they just don't know and keep moving. "I'm not from here, sorry."

Then again, the only number I got so far from street game was from a Chinese girl, but out of maybe 10-15 Asian girls I opened, I could maybe get 2 of them to talk for a bit longer. Language barrier is probably often the problem.

Anyone got any advice on what indirect approach would be best? Any experiences?

Post: #39

Fuck if I know man, in the past I've resorted to going to Asian massage parlors just to be around Asian women and catch their vibes, I have serious yellow fever but can't seem to meet any anywhere...cold street approaches prove fruitless because they are just so damn shy and reserved...perhaps it's time to join a language exchange or something and take it from there. Bumping this thread so maybe an experienced player can help us out more.

Post: #40

(08-10-2017 06:26 AM)LastKing Wrote:  Fuck if I know man, in the past I've resorted to going to Asian massage parlors just to be around Asian women and catch their vibes, I have serious yellow fever but can't seem to meet any anywhere...cold street approaches prove fruitless because they are just so damn shy and reserved...perhaps it's time to join a language exchange or something and take it from there. Bumping this thread so maybe an experienced player can help us out more.

Even if you got "Yellow Fever", you need to work on stop being that way. Thirst hurts your game in ways you may not even notice, but one of us could probably see it if we could watch you work on an approach in person.

There are times it seems or feels like I am getting a flare up of Yellow Fever, but realistically it just comes down to they are just my niche, and sometimes when I am just around too many I all but forget about what else I like out there. They are just a group I excel with.

Just my two cents.

Post: #41

(08-10-2017 06:26 AM)LastKing Wrote:  Fuck if I know man, in the past I've resorted to going to Asian massage parlors just to be around Asian women and catch their vibes, I have serious yellow fever but can't seem to meet any anywhere...cold street approaches prove fruitless because they are just so damn shy and reserved...perhaps it's time to join a language exchange or something and take it from there.

Have you tried Asia? It's this big continent where a lot of Asian women live.

Maybe you could try visiting that place and see how it goes.

Post: #42

With foreign-born Asians, social circle is crucial for the intro and building comfort up to a point. Group dates are common. It's like a social panel interview.

Getting introduced by an Asian male, preferably who is known to the group as high status, is a great initial step. Don't laugh, but if guys who graduated the same school and have solid careers, older siblings/cousins, or blokes with great academic achievements can vouch for you, then you're golden. Once you've been introduced, you'll have to isolate completely before sexualizing. Seriously, letting it be known that there is a connection too early with one in front of the group can get that chick scapegoated. Asians commit suicide at alarming rates because of social stigma.

Once I isolate, I do not run direct game usually because it's culturally misunderstood. Asians do respond to things that can show "social value in a brand conscious society" big time. It's why certain fashion brands like LVMH are king in China and Japan. Do likewise. Living in Hong Kong, I set up logistics near the shopping district. Telling a chick to meet at the cafe near the Louis Vuitton store works. Build a rapport, offer her something back at the apartment *that she has already expressed interest in*, and escalate once there.

Post: #43

Yeah I seriously need to get my ass to Asia. If I wasn't 29 years old I'd be an English teacher in china or something.

Post: #44

(08-10-2017 04:06 PM)LastKing Wrote:  Yeah I seriously need to get my ass to Asia. If I wasn't 29 years old I'd be an English teacher in china or something.

You sound like the sort of guy who always has a justification at the ready to explain why everything is impossible.

Post: #45

(08-12-2017 02:29 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 04:06 PM)LastKing Wrote:  Yeah I seriously need to get my ass to Asia. If I wasn't 29 years old I'd be an English teacher in china or something.

You sound like the sort of guy who always has a justification at the ready to explain why everything is impossible.

Mmhmm. Thanks for your input. I'm just not willing to take the pay-cut. Will probably just save up my money for a Thailand trip in the winter, and get soapy widdit. But anyways thanks again.

Post: #46

This picture should cure you of your asian fetish.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/campusreform/957...People.jpg

Post: #47

No trigger warning for that link. 7 day ban requested!

Post: #48

While we're at it, any good pickup lines for Asian girls?

Post: #49

(08-12-2017 05:48 AM)LastKing Wrote:  While we're at it, any good pickup lines for Asian girls?

Ask them where their favorite boba tea shop is. Honestly, I don't know of a single Asian girl that doesn't like boba tea.

Post: #50

(08-12-2017 05:48 AM)LastKing Wrote:  While we're at it, any good pickup lines for Asian girls?