Post: #1

As some of you know i am currently working in the oil industry in Angola. I had an argument with one of my bosses, basically the guy that was training me and showing me around the camp. Some of these guys have no respect for the locals and talk to them in whatever way they want to talk and the locals let it pop, this boss tried to disrespect me and talk to me without mannners as if i was so desperate to hold on to this job, i showed him that im not one of these locals and i dont accept disrespect and disrespected him just how he disrespected me. So he decides to contact the two big bosses and started telling them shit that happened in my first month, how i slept during meetings (two meetings), that i was forgeting stuff he taught me and that i wasnt suitable for the job. So this shift when i came in, the big boss told me that they will be watching me the whole shift and if they dont find me suitable for the job, they will lay me off. I gave all my best during the shift, always on time, didnt sleep, done all the work, befriended the hater boss (he was faking it really good) and today they told me that they are laying me off because im not suitable for the job.

So yeah im getting my shit together, flying to the capital tomorrow, i want to get rid of a car that i have there for sale and then im leaving this country by next month, i have some savings so i should be good for some time.

Well because i spend much of my time here, i decided to share it with you guys. Im not that upset of losing a job, i always believe that bad things happen for a reason and i truly believe that opportunities multiply as they seize.

Im just not too sure with what i am going to do next. One side of me is looking to fly to Australia or Canada and try get a job there in the oil field, the other side of me wants me to go to dominican republic and just live there for years, actually i was happier when i was there, but the only downside was that my life there was entirely about women, its not a country where you will get rich quick, the other side of me is telling me to stay here in Angola, i could go on ''hard working slave'' mode and make good money in the long term, i have got a business here that is also giving me some money and im looking to expand this but i hate being in this country, there is nothing that motivates me to stay here apart from the money opportunities.

Anybody cares to give me some advice?

Thanks

Post: #2

A big part of the equation is your age. How old are you?

If you're early 20's, my advice leans toward finding a place you can work hard and grind it out for year to save good money.

If you're closer to say your late 30's or 40's or older, my advice leans toward finding an industry in which you see yourself for the longer term. Even if it means making less money to get started, the goal is more about experience to build a reputation and skills than it is about the paycheck.

Grinding it out in Angola isn't a bad option, but only if you're prepared to cut back all expenses for the year and bank every penny you can. Otherwise, you're wasting a year of your life.

Is the oil industry such that you can work 6-12 months, bank a lot of cash, then take off and have fun 6-12 months? If so, I'd be doing that and all the while planning for the future on the side by studying, building connections, and learning about the industry/job in which you truly want to work.

Whatever you do, go all in and make it count. And always have a savings to fall back on in tough times.

Post: #3

Im 25, i will be 26 next month (time flies, hard to believe). Yeah in the oil industry you work 6 months and the other 6 months you are off, but i wasnt making great money from doing this, i was mainly doing it to gain the experience (i have worked here for 5 months in total).

Post: #4

Just what experience do you hold overall and do you have any degree?

While I totally understand you standing up for yourself sometimes you have to swallow your pride. If this had happened after one year on the job you'd have suitable experience and a more believable story for your next interview. 5 months however isn't very "bankable".

Post: #5

(02-15-2012 07:34 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Just what experience do you hold overall and do you have any degree?

While I totally understand you standing up for yourself sometimes you have to swallow your pride. If this had happened after one year on the job you'd have suitable experience and a more believable story for your next interview. 5 months however isn't very "bankable".

I have a degree in business management and im doing a post graduation degree online in health and safety, but i may give up the course because i need to minimise costs and it costs almost 6000 dollars (i havent paid a dollar till now and i have more 5 months to go).

Yeah i completely agree with you about swallowing your pride, the first time it happened on the first shift and i didnt say anything but it was killing me inside, this time i just thought he would take me for a fool if i didnt say anything so i felt obliged to say something. I also believe i answered him back because deep inside i know i have options.

Post: #6

The oil industry is a hard one. I went through the same shit my first trip out in the GOM. The trainer was a shitbag and the tenders were all up his ass. They worked in unison to undermine my efforts. I worked hard and stood my ground. In the end the superintendent knew I'd done well and assured me a rotation. My next time they accepted me into the flock. I had earned their respect.

In this industry, Pitt, you have to suck it up and push through. Your situation may have warranted it though. My advice is to take a little time off, reflect on what happened, and push hard to secure employment elsewhere.

The oil/gas and defense industries are a different breed. You're dealing with ex-con's and war veterans. All are hardened. They like to see the new guy fall. It's a rite of passage. They want to know you can hold your own and have their back when shit goes south. And whether on a rig or in a warzone, it will in the blink of an eye.

Post: #7

(02-15-2012 07:44 AM)pitt Wrote:  Yeah i completely agree with you about swallowing your pride, the first time it happened on the first shift and i didnt say anything but it was killing me inside, this time i just thought he would take me for a fool if i didnt say anything so i felt obliged to say something. I also believe i answered him back because deep inside i know i have options.

Mr Pitt,

Was it necessary to meet the disrespect with disrespect? Sometimes looking the guy in the eye and giving a firm laydown of the rules of engagement is better. Act as if you are a noble, magnanimous and wise lawmaking king and sometimes people will unconsciously bow down to you.

Giving disrespect would have only validated his initial attacks on you, and
fueled his willingness to attack. By hacking the relationship and coming across as the boss laying down respectful rules of engagement on an errant employee, you would have invalidated his authority over you in a way that fighting back would not.

If the relationship was unhackable and the boss insisted on disrespecting you despite of your rulings, then I agree that the best thing to do is leave. If you're treated like a slave long enough, you may end up being one.

In the course of my career in hospital emergency units, I regularly come across manipulative, aggressive, self-centred, vicious, borderline, sometimes violent people, and the first thing to do is to take control and define the rules of engagement; the person should be playing to YOUR rules, not the other way round. Simply taking command and explaining the
rules with a strong masculine tone of voice is sometimes enough to make a screaming junkie-in-withdrawal shut the fuck up and cooperate. Fighting with aggressive people only makes them more aggressive, and gives them the power to make the rules of the game.

Good luck with all your future endeavours, and hopefully if you come across this sort of situation again in future you will turn it around and make it work to your satisfaction.

Post: #8

Go to this website below if you are a U.S. citizen and looking for a job. In addition these are all government jobs.

http:// www. sealiftcommand. com/ resources /now-hiring

Supply Utilityman requires NO EXPERIENCE and you basically just need a beating heart. This will get your foot in the door and it is very easy to move up the ladder if you so desire.

You will be working on a ship, but if you are smart it is very easy to save money. You don't have to pay for food, rent, gas, laundry, gym, ect.

Lastly, you get an opportunity to travel and go out in whatever country the ship is in.

Post: #9

Fuck it! Some people are cut out to work for others and some aren't. Otherwise I say go to the DR all the way. You're only young once so I see no reason to spend your youth in a oil field when you know damn well with some hustle you could make money and still be happy in a place you enjoy.

I'm surprised that with all the brains on this forum we haven't turn that whole country into our bitch yet. I see it coming though.

A network is needed in regards to that.

Post: #10

Pitt, to savour an Athlone Mcginnis signature tag which I first heard in a Chris Rock film, you will never lose women chasing money. Go where the money is. You are still young. Fcuk DR unless you can make money from them hoes.

I am in the same dilemma now. I am looking to move to the U.S and although women should be a decent concern, I don't want to go somewhere where there are nuff women and no money.

With money, I can help others and go to where women are at. With just women, well, all I can do is fcuk.

So to conclude, go where the money is, and take vacations in order to alleviate your mind and remind you why you are working so hard and taking such sacrifices.

Post: #11

(02-15-2012 09:07 AM)Blanco Wrote:  Go to this website below if you are a U.S. citizen and looking for a job. In addition these are all government jobs.

http:// www. sealiftcommand. com/ resources /now-hiring

Supply Utilityman requires NO EXPERIENCE and you basically just need a beating heart. This will get your foot in the door and it is very easy to move up the ladder if you so desire.

You will be working on a ship, but if you are smart it is very easy to save money. You don't have to pay for food, rent, gas, laundry, gym, ect.

Lastly, you get an opportunity to travel and go out in whatever country the ship is in.

I know something about this, but it's all second hand knowledge. If you have experience in this definitely drop a data sheet.

Post: #12

(02-15-2012 09:30 AM)Moma Wrote:  Pitt, to savour an Athlone Mcginnis signature tag which I first heard in a Chris Rock film, you will never lose women chasing money. Go where the money is. You are still young. Fcuk DR unless you can make money from them hoes.

I am in the same dilemma now. I am looking to move to the U.S and although women should be a decent concern, I don't want to go somewhere where there are nuff women and no money.

With money, I can help others and go to where women are at. With just women, well, all I can do is fcuk.

So to conclude, go where the money is, and take vacations in order to alleviate your mind and remind you why you are working so hard and taking such sacrifices.

There's money everywhere. You just have to be smart enough to get it.

Pitt, If you want to make cash and sleep at work you could move to Youngstown Ohio and work at Genital motors with my uncles.

Post: #13

(02-15-2012 09:15 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Fuck it! Some people are cut out to work for others and some aren't. Otherwise I say go to the DR all the way. You're only young once so I see no reason to spend your youth in a oil field when you know damn well with some hustle you could make money and still be happy in a place you enjoy.

I'm surprised that with all the brains on this forum we haven't turn that whole country into our bitch yet. I see it coming though.

A network is needed in regards to that.

damn Pitt

Agreeded 300% here, fuck that job! A smart person can make $$$ anywhere my Spanish sucks and Ive damn became to go to guy for my town for certain shit in dr ( no not drugs) but shit anyone here can do its so obvious.

No I'm not telling what it is don't ask.

I agree with el, and my new purpose is to make the dr my money making bitch, once I'm good with the Spanish it's really a wrap

It's funny I know gringo girls that come here with nothing and hustle up on a biz that leverages their strength like teaching a foreign language, another teaches dance class, another one teaches yoga easy shit and dudes are scared thinking they need $100k saved up wtf!!!

El mechanico pm me we need to talk about how to collect all these pesos $$$$ in DR.

Put me anywhere on god's green earth, I'll triple my worth!!!!
-jayz

Post: #14

What most people don't realize

When you value COMFORT(security ie job) over FREEDOM, you will NEVER be free!
WHEN YOU VALUE FREEDOM over COMFORT, you usually get BOTH!!

Post: #15

(02-15-2012 05:26 AM)pitt Wrote:  As some of you know i am currently working in the oil industry in Angola. I had an argument with one of my bosses, basically the guy that was training me and showing me around the camp. Some of these guys have no respect for the locals and talk to them in whatever way they want to talk and the locals let it pop, this boss tried to disrespect me and talk to me without mannners as if i was so desperate to hold on to this job, i showed him that im not one of these locals and i dont accept disrespect and disrespected him just how he disrespected me. So he decides to contact the two big bosses and started telling them shit that happened in my first month, how i slept during meetings (two meetings), that i was forgeting stuff he taught me and that i wasnt suitable for the job. So this shift when i came in, the big boss told me that they will be watching me the whole shift and if they dont find me suitable for the job, they will lay me off. I gave all my best during the shift, always on time, didnt sleep, done all the work, befriended the hater boss (he was faking it really good) and today they told me that they are laying me off because im not suitable for the job.

So yeah im getting my shit together, flying to the capital tomorrow, i want to get rid of a car that i have there for sale and then im leaving this country by next month, i have some savings so i should be good for some time.

Well because i spend much of my time here, i decided to share it with you guys. Im not that upset of losing a job, i always believe that bad things happen for a reason and i truly believe that opportunities multiply as they seize.

Im just not too sure with what i am going to do next. One side of me is looking to fly to Australia or Canada and try get a job there in the oil field, the other side of me wants me to go to dominican republic and just live there for years, actually i was happier when i was there, but the only downside was that my life there was entirely about women, its not a country where you will get rich quick, the other side of me is telling me to stay here in Angola, i could go on ''hard working slave'' mode and make good money in the long term, i have got a business here that is also giving me some money and im looking to expand this but i hate being in this country, there is nothing that motivates me to stay here apart from the money opportunities.


There is no Country in the world that you will get rich quick especially if you working a job there, you been there 5 months and still not rich, so might be good to change the thinking.

but on the flip opportunity is EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!

Put me in Antarctica or Alaska Id start a snow removal biz, sell road salt, and a flavored sno-cone stand and charge people to pics with penguins lol
Anybody cares to give me some advice?

Thanks

Post: #16

We do need to talk about this TX. The people down there trying to help me are the weak link in the chain and I can't babysit them.

My roadblock is that the people there want to cherry pick and I want to sell shit 40ft containers at a time

Post: #17

Was your interaction anything like this!?

Post: #18

for your age i'm with moma.

$ doesn't but happiness of course but it does buy options. more $ more options.

you're young; focus on building your life bankroll and cash in later.

women are like cars; there's more new models coming on the market every year!

Post: #19

Pitt, just think of this as a kick in the ass.

There were times I would have been homeless if I didn't make some quick cash. I was actually living in a different country on a tourist visa and that meant no way to get a job. I had to make the cash online.

I learned money is there for the taking whenever you want it. You won't believe how creative you get when your ass is on the line.

Most people are too lazy to really go after it.

Post: #20

(02-16-2012 03:07 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I want to sell shit 40ft containers at a time

Hey el mechanico, if you (or anyone else here) need cans of surfboard blanks, or anything styrofoam based really, hit me up. I got the deals. Kiteboarding, windsurfing and whatever else is popular in FLA, I got.

Hang in there Pitt.

Aloha!

Post: #21

I got laid off, actually canned, over two years ago for being a insubordinate dickhead. It was a great feeling standing up for myself after years of putting up with true assholes simply because of a sick paycheck.

I banked a lot of money in that job, so I've been traveling ever since. I've realized now that work is a necessary evil in life but too often people knowingly or unknowingly force themselves into having to make work the center of their life.

They either spend too much on shit they don't need and end up having to work to pay down debt, or they don't develop hobbies or interests or perspective and so work is all they have in life.

You're young and it seems you are adventurous so I don't see any problem with what's happened. Crap will always work out in the end as long as you keep trying.

Post: #22

(02-22-2012 10:49 PM)nomadicdude Wrote:  Crap will always work out in the end as long as you keep trying.

this

Post: #23

Is anyone in the DR now, and interested in plugging into a global online escort database?

I'm considering setting such a thing up for Indonesia, but making it global and getting partners around the world would help insure our success.

Post: #24

Sometimes you got take the crap but be TACTFUL about dealing w Supervisors. You become their RIGHT HAND man. Its like being an ADAPTABLE player.

At times when you've earned your Ranks & shown enough investment and they VALUE you. Then play at that level.

Post: #25

I'm kinda in a some-what similar position as far as "What to do from here." Right now I'm working 2 jobs, between 64-72 hours a week (Lately been more like 72). I'm banking for me, and I think for a good majority of the population at the age of 25. I'm making more than 95% of kids my age that I know who've graduated college. But I'm working like a slave. I have hardly any social life anymore. I do manage to get 2 days off a week, but I've found that I pretty much need one of those days to rest. Luckily I work with some good looking girls and good looking girls constantly come into my work, so I still have a means to meet girls (The uniform I have to wear definitely doesn't help though. I make sure to pop in every once in a while dressed real nice to do something I need to do while I'm off. I get some real nice compliments and IOIs from the girls every time), but definitely still not as easy as before I was working two jobs. The second job I picked up also kinda sucks. I can't stand the girl I work with, and a lot of the people suck as well. But that money is fucking awesome. Money's just being thrown at me from all directions. I walk into one job, BAM! $200 in tips! Then I get off, go to the second job, BAM! There's an envelope sitting in the cash drawers with my name on it with $200 in commission. Then I get paid every other week in both jobs, but the weeks are oposite, so basically I'm getting a nice fatty 2 week check every week. Even my tip job pays decent hourly. I'm having $350-400 days frequently. I know that's probably not a lot of money for many of the older international playboy ballers here, but for me, being 25 and 2 years ago making $12 an hour working 40 hours a week, it's a nice chunk of change.

But here's the thing... I work my fucking ass off. I just started to eat a nice healthy diet, but it's killing me following it. First of all, just finding the time to cook can be a burden in itself, not to mention finding time to go to the market and shop since I don't have a car. I was talking with a friend of mine who I suspect is somewhat of a feminist. I was telling her how I was considering getting a girlfriend because I need someone to wash my clothes and fix me meals. She was not too happy about that. She said, "You're looking for all the wrong reasons to find a girlfriend." Really? Oh yeah, I forgot, I want sex on demand too, guess that's what I must have been leaving out. It's been hard to keep in touch with friends or to work out. As far as my situation with women, it's not a whole lot worse than before I got the two jobs. I have a feeling this may be because of my confidence now that I am keeping busy and eating healthy. Sometimes I wanna just say fuck it, my origional job pays well by itself, fuck having both jobs. Get rid of the one and start living life!

I'm just really trying to figure out if it's worth it. And the answer right now for me is YES. Nothing worth having is easy to get. If it was, everyone would have it. I've heard Roosh say that in different words many times. So right now, I feel like I have to make some sacrifices as a man so that I can be where I want to be in the next 5 years. At the end of the day too, I also think, "What am I gonna do with all this money I save?" Usually I'm thinking, "I'm gonna invest the shit out of it, and try and make $60k into $100k, then $100k into $150k" and so on... The other part of me is thinking, "Save $25k an go travel the world for a year." But at the end of the day, I think investing is what I need to do so I can travel the world all through my 30s and 40s and be comfortable when I'm older.

My advice to you is fuck spending that money you have saved in the DR. Hold onto it, go work a couple more years in the oil industry, save $100k (Which if I remember correctly from other posts, it shouldn't take you more than 5 years to do, I would even think much less than that working in oil), invest that, and live in the DR and anywhere else your play boy heart desires!