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RE: Gaming backpacker girls
(12-28-2017 12:16 PM)JimBobsCooters Wrote: Backpacker game varies massively depending on the country you're in, the hostel you're at and your particular strengths.
I actually love backpacker game because of how many variants there are to it, it's the ultimate testing ground for flexibility and pivot skills. You can't have one dimensional game and hope to survive in the backpacker environment. I can also understand why it's not popular here because backpacking removes a couple of huge elements this forum preaches, namely how you dress and your financial success. Those two particular pillars of game go out the window and will even work against you in a lot of hostel/backpacker crowds.
As for some advice...
1. If you're a strong drinker with staying power then hostels with pools are golden. Join the pool games but don't drink at this time, let the majority of the other guys zap themselves, it's rare that someone can drink all day in a pool in the sun and then still go all night without getting sloppy. If this is a strength of yours then you'll have half the competition remove themselves from the equation. From here it's just standard drinking games into where ever it kicks on, ideally there is a walk to the club where you can isolate the primary target and perhaps even avoid the club altogether. I've had great success with this tactic where you divert from the club to get a burger or whatever and then head back and avoid the club altogether where nothing good is likely to happen. Alternatively if you're staying somewhere for a while with only a few clubs, make friends at the clubs. I've had a couple of places where I could order from 5 deep, would greet the owners and get a free drink on the way in, in backpacker world this is right up there on the SMV scales.
2. More general but have the logistics on point. If money isn't an issue, private room. Not just a logistic win but you'll cherish the sleep and having somewhere to retreat to. If you can't afford private, then spend to get one with a bathroom at least, I've had many a girl who is willing to do the bathroom in a dorm thing but not the dorm thing. If you can find a cheap one night hotel near the hostel then this is also an option to just pay when you need but if you're having as much success as you should this ends up more expensive.
3. Dorm sex... it's possible, it's a pain in the ass. Step one to success here is let the girl pick the dorm, yours or hers, hers is preferable because you can retreat once it's done and there is a decent chance of anonymity, if it's yours, make sure you know the people in the dorm are either cool with it or aren't there. Nothing cock blocks quite like someone calling security. Again, if you've got an ensuite room that's a better option. Really though, avoid this if you can. If it's your dorm then you'll get a rep real quick.
4. Travel paths... This is a big logistical issue. Identify which way a girl is traveling, most backpacker locations have 1-3 paths in/out. You don't want to sleep with a girl only to bump into her at every hostel for the next 2 months because she's on the same path, the ideal move is to only game the girls going the other direction. There are several benefits to this... first is obviously the bump into factor, the second is you can use your knowledge of where she is going next as a genuine "interest" factor in the conversation, you sound cool and teach her stuff, displaying value. Third you can do the reverse, let her talk about her awesome adventures in the guise of "wanting to know what to do in next stop", girls love talking about themselves and it's at least got value to you when she does. The amount of rookie backpackers I see fail this step is scary, they end up with either an unwanted travel girlfriend or an active cockblocker following them.
5. Working at the hostels... This is always an option and is a bigtime backpacker SMV if you've got the right jobs. Bartender has the usual bartender access, anyone who has ever worked at a decent bar knows the power here. Being a host is even more powerful because you've got the same power as a bartender with mobility. Being the manager can have the perks of a private room, real pay but it's harder to party full time and there is responsibility. Bigtime SMV though.
6. Drinking games... Learn them, they're powerful and being the guy who gets the party started is another massive SMV at a hostel. Kings Cup/Ring of Fire/whatever you call it is one, have the rules on your phone but be adaptive if someone wants their own rule put in or a change, you might learn a great new rule to use in the future or you just placate someone who could cause issues or if it's a girl, get bonus points from her. Never Ever is always a key part of this game and is one you should have prepped if you want to work it, you want to have Never Evers that do one of two things... a) Make you look great, display sexual value (this one is harder than it seems because you also don't want to be a creep/slut/whatever) or b) gain valuable information on your targets (who should always be convinced to play of course), find out if they have a boyfriend or if they've cheated on him if they've got one, girls who've had sex already in the country (this is win/win, you either find an easy target or an in to the harder target). There is also some potential sabotage potential here of others. Be willing to lie if you think it helps, ie if you've had an STD and it comes up, maybe lie that you haven't unless someone at the table knows about it. These games are a central part of bonding and getting to know people at hostels, being good at them is a massive asset.
7. Be in shape... this works everywhere but the backpacker crowd is generally in better shape than most crowds. It's a physically active, healthy eating and sun-kissed group with the added bonus of generally being young. Bigger can be a real asset in this crowd as it's generally the lean athletic look rather than the bigger and stronger look, so you'll be more unique. Fat doesn't help and pathetically skinny doesn't help either.
8. Networking is massive. This gets back to the paths in point 4 thing as well but people are going to meet people you've met, having FB friends that are mutuals can be a disarming move. Don't by shy of making friends with the girls you have no interest in or as many guys as possible. Having a friend who will fall on a grenade is very useful because girls generally travel in groups of 2-3, big groups happen and solo happen but they're rarer and another type of target. Expect to be dealing with a friend 24/7 on any target and having her on-side is a massive bonus. Remember that it's likely you will see the girl the next day and her friend. Perhaps even more important is to make friends with the 4+ groups of guys, they'll almost always all be single, all be on the prowl and all be competing with each other which makes them more aggressive. If you fail to befriend these groups, you're the enemy of all 4. Befriend them and they'll compete with each other to help you out as well. It's a weird dynamic but it's vitally important if you want regular success, imo.
9. Know the Country... This probably seems obvious but the amount of guys I meet who know nothing about the country they're in is crazy, especially because girls generally pick a country because they're genuinely interested in it. Just another area you can display value over the crowds. If you know more than a few it's even better, especially somewhere that can really get across your passion for travel, this is the thing that will attract every girl, they all have it so being able to display that you travel because you love traveling is a great bond you can form with basically any backpacker girl.
There is plenty more to it but the above is a good starter. Backpacking can be a great way to meet girls from lots of different countries without having to travel quite as thoroughly. It's not everyone's cup of tea for sure and the hygiene levels on some of the girls can be a bit off putting but there are some absolute gems to be had as well.
Great post, this is a good summary of socializing in the backpacking community.
Pools in hostels - I havent seen that much action in some of them, definitely not with alcohol. Most of the time, they are filled with debris but when it is fine to swim in, very few people are actually there. Often, its the couples who are having breakfast while having a swim. Having said, that, this can be an opportunity to invite girls to dip in but in places where there are a lot of beaches, this might not work.
Yes, private room is really the best way to go. One way to save money while having a private room is to reduce the time spent in a city compensating for the cost (thus increasing the pressure on you to socialize) but the bottom line is one still has to pay more. I agree with the previous post that dorm sex is not as common as people think. Normally, its between couples or after binge drinking, people fumbling in the dark waking everybody up. But you might get lucky if the girl has a private room. Not sure if her dorm is a good idea though, all the other people in her dorm would know its her but if its yours, she can retreat early without people noticing her.
About gaming girls on different backpacker routes, it actually might be better if a group of girls tags along with you. It can increase your value and widen your network at the new venues, unless she is really into you. I guess it also depends on the guy to keep it chill and make sure it does not develop into kind of a relationship. It might be even better if you don't bang any of those girls but just hang out together while you are in the same route. I find girls can be friendly and include you in their plans if you genuinely are interested in checking things out but you got to keep your frame and preferably have some friends of your own in that group as well.
Curiously enough I don't actually see the guys working at the backpackers hang out with the new backpackers plus they got to get up early to do the cleaning or open up reception so they can't do the drinking thing, they usually hang out with the other long term workers so it can defeat the purpose. But I agree those bartenders are in the best position, ie. if they can still meet up after his shift and he can hold her attention despite the other male customers who can actually hit on her with more latitude. Which brings me to the next point, having a hostel with a bar means that drinking games might not be possible if you cant bring your own alcohol. One has to run standard bar game. These hostel bars close pretty early so preplanning for venue change is essential and this is where hostel location becomes important as most of the backpacking girls are not willing to spend money for a cab.
Good point about getting into shape if you are going on a long backpacking trip. However, if you are not, it might be a better idea to go solo. Normally, the buff guys are also quite good at approaching as well so it can be tough to roll with them for the purpose of meeting girls. These guys usually, attract the girls who are obviously out to have fun and have a party. But, what is not mentioned much is that there is a sizable group of girls who do not partake in this loud drunken fest (usually with skewed ratios), they are usually in pairs and have tight schedules to visit places, they do not lounge around all day with these guys drinking, they are out in the morning and come back just to make dinner and sleep. It might be worth approaching these girls to see if you guys can hang out together. Although they might not be up to party, they might be fine for a quiet drink in a bar if they are into you and you guys have done quite some touristy things together. There is no need to isolate, because isolation is almost done. If she is with a friend, you might want to introduce the friend to some other friends you met.
Also, it is better to backpack with friend(s) who have similar goals to you. It can be tough meeting like minded guys on the road. Some guys will always want to be alone, on their headphones and not drink. They will talk about girls but will have little in the way of action. On the other hand, the fun guys usually roll with a tight group of friends and they are always going to look out for them first. I think girls are better in that respect, they make real friends while travelling and try their best to adjust their plans so that they can be together. Cosign the above poster's comment that most girls travel because they really want to travel.
Finally, pubcrawls/clubbing will not be fruitful. Mostly, a waste of money and time unless you have a target pretty locked in, in which case there is also no point heading out. Also, most backpacking girls are not interested in the clubs due to lack of money and early mornings leading to very skewed ratios. However, quieter backpacker bars might be more productive.
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. I guess you can try booking the ones that have bad reviews regarding the wifi signal, good luck with that.
