Post: #2401

I'm going to be spending a week in Long Beach for work. Are there any good nightlife options around there? Seems like the best choices are in Downtown, Hollywood or Santa Monica from reading the thread.

Post: #2402

(06-07-2017 12:10 PM)Nalgas Wrote:  I'm going to be spending a week in Long Beach for work. Are there any good nightlife options around there? Seems like the best choices are in Downtown, Hollywood or Santa Monica from reading the thread.

Long Beach nightlife doesn't compare to Downtown, Hollywood, or Santa Monica. I'd advise against it if you want to be wowed. Less hot girls, they're less dressed up, way more gay people depending on location, and a different vibe.

We have ok nightlife but it's not the same level. If you must go out in Long Beach you're going to hit 2nd street in Belmont Shores for younger hotter girls and more white girls, or you're going to hit downtown long beach on Pine st for slightly older crowd and more black and hispanic girls.

2nd street venues = Panama Joes, Legends
Pine St venues = Sevilla's, Agaves, Moonshiners, Cuban Pete's, Federal Bar

I live on Pine so I rarely hit 2nd st don't know too much of the other venues there.

Post: #2403

I just got rid of my van in LA. Was paying almost two grand to store it on the west side. Over last few years sun destroyed what was left of it.

Sad to let it go, but you can rent a car there cheaply. If you just need one weekends there are dirt cheap deals. I wouldn't recommend not having your own car in LA. But if you can dial in to work, walk, metro you're saving a huge traffic headache commute back and forth.

I didn't put in much swiping time this trip. But I noticed tinder took a total nosedive in qualitiyy I'd say just be willing to go out in LA. Though my buddy says bumble is become way better than tinder.

He just moved down from San Francisco. Convinced his job to work remotely. Insists its way better for women than SF. Cheaper too.

I watched him use bumble to line up a few new LA girls each week. He's white and pretty much focuses on 7-8 asians.

Most of them aren't girls I'd bother fucking with considering it takes him 3 dates over as many weeks to take them down. But seems like relatively straightforward text game.

I tried it but got little traction since I was bouncing back to NY every week. The convos would just trail off. My buddy had same issue when he was going back to SF. Once he started pretending to live in LA his results got solid. After months doing LA hotels every weekend he was convinced to ditch San Fran completely.

Can't say isharehis love for LA. But I'm spoiled by international travel. Though if you like FOB asians LA has plenty of them. Even the second generation girls are seem thirsty for white dick.

They're not lining up. There's competition. So you need decent game and logistics. I get the feeling that lots of guys sleep on online game in LA. Wondering what some of you guys have experienced?

Post: #2404

Yeah you're right, I deleted Tinder about 6 months ago and haven't looked back since. By the end it became awful. I never had high standards for swiping right (always followed the "swipe first, screen later" mentality, but the last month I was probably swiping left 2/3rd of the time, that's how ugly it got.

Bumble is supposedly better, though my good buddy, a tall, good-looking dude who does well at bars, has pulled 1 girl from it this year I think. As we all know, online is pretty much a pure meat market, so unless you've got the look, it's hard to pull from it consistently. I did pretty well on Tinder when I had it in '15-16, and I just haven't heard anecdotal evidence of many dudes in LA having success on Bumble (while I know plenty of guys in addition to me who did well on Tinder).

I do wonder why people sleep on Samo/Venice so much. I'll admit that it is really hard to pull the same night there as compared to other places, but for grabbing numbers and setting up dates for later, it's pretty solid and there's a lot of spots within walking distance to choose from depending on which area you're in. There are a lot of hot girls going out there every weekend - you will not run out of chicks to talk to. While there's definitely some competition, not a lot of guys actually approach or dress well, so you can stand out in that way pretty easily. Also, a few spots, especially in Venice, start to get going early at around ~9-930pm, so if you roll in early, the ratios will usually be amazing.

Post: #2405

(06-10-2017 12:43 PM)RDF Wrote:  I do wonder why people sleep on Samo/Venice so much. I'll admit that it is really hard to pull the same night there as compared to other places, but for grabbing numbers and setting up dates for later, it's pretty solid and there's a lot of spots within walking distance to choose from depending on which area you're in. There are a lot of hot girls going out there every weekend - you will not run out of chicks to talk to. While there's definitely some competition, not a lot of guys actually approach or dress well, so you can stand out in that way pretty easily. Also, a few spots, especially in Venice, start to get going early at around ~9-930pm, so if you roll in early, the ratios will usually be amazing.

What hot spots do you like in Venice? Also, any good spots for first dates/drinks?
I am gonna be moving to Venice/Culver in the next 2 months so i need to figure that out.

Post: #2406

Day drinking in Venice is the easiest way to hook up on the Westside. I was at the Whaler last night after 8 and there were tons of people hooking up, just drunk party people letting loose. Lots of high quality girls as well (for that particular area) and they are open to conversation and are pretty easy to close. Townhouse is good at night. James Beach is good on the weekend nights as well. Main Street has taken a turn for the worse lately, a few places closed (O'Briens and Main on Main).

The problem with Santa Monica is most of the girls are annoying basic bitches. It really is the worst girls in LA as far as attitude and stuck-up-ness goes. I do like Mom's Bar but that's kind of more West LA. 41 Ocean was good the few times I've been too.

In that area, I do my first date/drinks on Venice Blvd but more in Mar Vista. I go to the Bigfoot Lodge and the bar a block away from there. Really good vibe and layout.

Post: #2407

(06-12-2017 07:00 PM)Drazen Wrote:  Day drinking in Venice is the easiest way to hook up on the Westside. I was at the Whaler last night after 8 and there were tons of people hooking up, just drunk party people letting loose. Lots of high quality girls as well (for that particular area) and they are open to conversation and are pretty easy to close. Townhouse is good at night. James Beach is good on the weekend nights as well. Main Street has taken a turn for the worse lately, a few places closed (O'Briens and Main on Main).

The problem with Santa Monica is most of the girls are annoying basic bitches. It really is the worst girls in LA as far as attitude and stuck-up-ness goes. I do like Mom's Bar but that's kind of more West LA. 41 Ocean was good the few times I've been too.

In that area, I do my first date/drinks on Venice Blvd but more in Mar Vista. I go to the Bigfoot Lodge and the bar a block away from there. Really good vibe and layout.

Yeah if I was forced at gunpoint to stay in California I would move to Venice/Palms/Mar Vista area.

Though the westside in general is basic bitch central. It's the home of basic bitch culture and where entitled stuck up sluts around the nation and around the globe take their cues from. Every horrible habit and trend of modern young western women is ground zero in the westside. Good luck out there soldiers.

Post: #2408

(06-12-2017 07:00 PM)Drazen Wrote:  I go to the Bigfoot Lodge and the bar a block away from there. Really good vibe and layout.

Isn't that on Los Feliz in Glendale, and just a short distance away is the bridge on Hyperion St across the LA river that you see in literally hundreds of Hollywood movies?

Post: #2409

(06-13-2017 11:12 AM)C-Note Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 07:00 PM)Drazen Wrote:  I go to the Bigfoot Lodge and the bar a block away from there. Really good vibe and layout.

Isn't that on Los Feliz in Glendale, and just a short distance away is the bridge on Hyperion St across the LA river that you see in literally hundreds of Hollywood movies?

They have a location on the Westside. https://lacocktails.com/2013/02/01/culve...foot-west/

Post: #2410

When setting up a day 2 with a chick, do you guys just look for locations near your pad (or hers?) so a couple of drinks and go back and smash? LA is so spread, these logistics are a bit confusing to me.

Post: #2411

(06-13-2017 02:06 PM)spaceman Wrote:  When setting up a day 2 with a chick, do you guys just look for locations near your pad (or hers?) so a couple of drinks and go back and smash? LA is so spread, these logistics are a bit confusing to me.

I generally only date girls that live within 5-7 miles of me. It just never works out otherwise.

On my second date, I usually set up a daytime beach thing on a Saturday day or Sunday day. I have her park at my place and then we uber to the beach bar or something along those lines. Or we just meet at the beach. We have a few drinks and uber back to my place or hers if possible. If she drove for some reason (girls are cheap and don't always use uber for some reason), I ask for a ride back to my place.

If its a night thing, I set up a multi-pickup lyft and just have the lyft swoop her at her place and go somewhere. Then dropping off, I just do a direct uber/lyft drop off and come up.

Post: #2412

(06-13-2017 02:15 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:06 PM)spaceman Wrote:  When setting up a day 2 with a chick, do you guys just look for locations near your pad (or hers?) so a couple of drinks and go back and smash? LA is so spread, these logistics are a bit confusing to me.

I generally only date girls that live within 5-7 miles of me. It just never works out otherwise.

On my second date, I usually set up a daytime beach thing on a Saturday day or Sunday day. I have her park at my place and then we uber to the beach bar or something along those lines. Or we just meet at the beach. We have a few drinks and uber back to my place or hers if possible. If she drove for some reason (girls are cheap and don't always use uber for some reason), I ask for a ride back to my place.

If its a night thing, I set up a multi-pickup lyft and just have the lyft swoop her at her place and go somewhere. Then dropping off, I just do a direct uber/lyft drop off and come up.

Thanks for the rundown. Interesting. I can see how these logistics complicate everything. Especially with LA's shitty parking situation. Would you recommend living in Culver City or more on the west side? I kind of want to live more in the West side beach areas but I know once you live near the beach you never ever go to the beach. and you pay out of the ass for it in LA. (I lived on miami beach for 2 years)

At least in Culver, you can metro both ways. to save on uber/cabs. shit like that.

Post: #2413

(06-13-2017 04:09 PM)spaceman Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:15 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:06 PM)spaceman Wrote:  When setting up a day 2 with a chick, do you guys just look for locations near your pad (or hers?) so a couple of drinks and go back and smash? LA is so spread, these logistics are a bit confusing to me.

I generally only date girls that live within 5-7 miles of me. It just never works out otherwise.

On my second date, I usually set up a daytime beach thing on a Saturday day or Sunday day. I have her park at my place and then we uber to the beach bar or something along those lines. Or we just meet at the beach. We have a few drinks and uber back to my place or hers if possible. If she drove for some reason (girls are cheap and don't always use uber for some reason), I ask for a ride back to my place.

If its a night thing, I set up a multi-pickup lyft and just have the lyft swoop her at her place and go somewhere. Then dropping off, I just do a direct uber/lyft drop off and come up.

Thanks for the rundown. Interesting. I can see how these logistics complicate everything. Especially with LA's shitty parking situation. Would you recommend living in Culver City or more on the west side? I kind of want to live more in the West side beach areas but I know once you live near the beach you never ever go to the beach. and you pay out of the ass for it in LA. (I lived on miami beach for 2 years)

At least in Culver, you can metro both ways. to save on uber/cabs. shit like that.

I always believe the BEST set up in any situation is live as close to where you'll be doing the majority of your gaming as humanly possible.

I don't really see the benefit in living "central" to be honest. Just live close to where you will be taking dates and doing night game. If those are separate areas then live close to the one you do a majority of your gaming. If you can't afford it then you compromise and choose a "central" location.

If I had to stay in LA I'd live in Venice or Palms area in Culver and I'd work my game around the location I was in.

Post: #2414

There's no real nightlife in Culver/Palms though right?
seems like its a quick uber to W. Hollywood. Santa Monica , or DTLA

Post: #2415

(06-13-2017 04:09 PM)spaceman Wrote:  Thanks for the rundown. Interesting. I can see how these logistics complicate everything. Especially with LA's shitty parking situation. Would you recommend living in Culver City or more on the west side? I kind of want to live more in the West side beach areas but I know once you live near the beach you never ever go to the beach. and you pay out of the ass for it in LA. (I lived on miami beach for 2 years)

At least in Culver, you can metro both ways. to save on uber/cabs. shit like that.

If you live in the beach cities, you rarely go east of the 405 of the weekends. Honestly, Culver City is close enough to Venice or Santa Monica its a cheap enough uber ride to not to have to worry about it. Actually, uber is cheap enough in LA that it doesn't matter where you live. I never drive at night, I just take uber. No parking, no hassles, no wearing glasses, no accidents, and I can drink if I want to.

Girls will like you more if you say you live in Venice, Santa Monica or West LA since they think you have more money or you live a cooler lifestyle. Culver City is fine, there just isn't much to do, you can't walk outside and do stuff unless you want some Brazillian food or something like that.

I'd live in Culver City if you feel like you will actually frequent downtown and Hollywood in addition to the Beach Cities. Otherwise, the beach areas are great to live in if you can afford it. I mean its not Miami, not even close, but its less depressing than living in Culver City.

Post: #2416

Haha I gotcha. The nightlife in Santa Monica was surprisingly less than I thought it would be when I came to visit. Def not on South Beach's level, then again not much is.
For all the hate LA seems to get on this forum and love that miami gets, living in miami long term is a much different beast than going there for a weekend or a season. It definitely gets old in some ways, you can only goto the beach or party... Not much else going on. (or maybe I am getting old)

Post: #2417

(06-13-2017 04:09 PM)spaceman Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:15 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:06 PM)spaceman Wrote:  When setting up a day 2 with a chick, do you guys just look for locations near your pad (or hers?) so a couple of drinks and go back and smash? LA is so spread, these logistics are a bit confusing to me.

I generally only date girls that live within 5-7 miles of me. It just never works out otherwise.

On my second date, I usually set up a daytime beach thing on a Saturday day or Sunday day. I have her park at my place and then we uber to the beach bar or something along those lines. Or we just meet at the beach. We have a few drinks and uber back to my place or hers if possible. If she drove for some reason (girls are cheap and don't always use uber for some reason), I ask for a ride back to my place.

If its a night thing, I set up a multi-pickup lyft and just have the lyft swoop her at her place and go somewhere. Then dropping off, I just do a direct uber/lyft drop off and come up.

Thanks for the rundown. Interesting. I can see how these logistics complicate everything. Especially with LA's shitty parking situation. Would you recommend living in Culver City or more on the west side? I kind of want to live more in the West side beach areas but I know once you live near the beach you never ever go to the beach. and you pay out of the ass for it in LA. (I lived on miami beach for 2 years)

At least in Culver, you can metro both ways. to save on uber/cabs. shit like that.

Depending on your game style and type of female you like, I'd highly recommend spending one to two weekends checking out different parts of LA before deciding where to live AT DIFFERENT HOURS OF THE DAY. It might seem boring at times but you'll be investing a big part of you life in wherever you move so you need to be sure you've chosen wisely.

Unless you absolutely kill it on Tinder, you're going to need to practice something I called Stream Theory, which is what I've relied on in the past for LA. Meaning that because LA is so fucking spread out, you need to make best use of your time and maximize your hunting efforts and game, not only in the most ideal places, but also during the prime hours where there are STREAMS of women. Like others have mentioned, it doesn't make sense to go to a bar on a Friday night when there's a sausagefest and/or they have girls that are not to your liking (ex. hipsters) Compare this to say Melrose around 3pm on a Thursday or Friday around that fucking Pink Wall (google it) where I'm guessing majority of dudes don't necessarily want to hang out there (I don't) but where you'll find a consistent STREAM of women.


If you're a club guy, then obviously living near the clubs that provide the highest number of girls which fit your target market makes sense. I personally have not had much success with clubs in LA so day game is my shit. But majority of hot girls in even the high STREAM areas such as Melrose will be in pairs so you need to either have tight game to open and charm pairs of girls or have a good wingman to help you.

Lastly, I would highly emphasize you need to strike while the iron is hot. There are so many game aware dudes here plus guys with weak game but with lots of money and status who will use it, that when you've got the girl in front of you, you close that deal now homie! Instadate her if she's still standing there talking to you or listening to your rap, etc. I remember bringing a girl back to my hotel near 3rd st promenade in Santa Monica who had like 7000 followers/(or whatever) on Tinder and she was constantly getting hit up. My ex-gf had a messaging app where she only posted a pic of her nose and was getting hit up throughout the day. Both of these girls were 19/20-ish. They're getting offered so much dick that when you've got that moment of opportunity, do not waste it as you might never get it again. Being able to give a girl good quality orgasms and actually connecting with the girl will at least level the playing field when some other B/C list celebrity tries to flaunt their cash and lifestyle their way (yes, I have this experience) but if you don't pull the trigger when it's there, you'll just get lost in the haze of dick pics and lame, needy texts that hot girls get on the regular in LA.

Good luck

Post: #2418

(06-07-2017 12:10 PM)Nalgas Wrote:  I'm going to be spending a week in Long Beach for work. Are there any good nightlife options around there? Seems like the best choices are in Downtown, Hollywood or Santa Monica from reading the thread.

Public Transportation Datasheet

Take the 121 bus between 2nd Street and Pine Avenue: $1.25.

From Long Beach to LA: take the Blue Line train in the Pine Avenue area to Downtown LA, where you can take the Red Line to Hollywood or take the Expo Line to Santa Monica. Be careful riding the Blue Line late at night. The whole trip is $1.75 each way (free train transfer). An Uber from Long Beach to Santa Monica is around $25. You can also go from LAX to Long Beach for $1.75.

From Long Beach to OC: on PCH and 2nd Street, on the opposite corner of In n Out, there's a bus stop. Check out Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, and Laguna Beach, or you can take the bus all the way to San Clemente. Up to 60 miles for $2.

Post: #2419

Where is the best area for visitors to stay in LA for a weekend if they want to be near nightlife? I want to be near a concentration of nightlife so that I can bounce to 4-5 bars/clubs in a night.

Post: #2420

(06-14-2017 02:31 PM)Iso Wrote:  Where is the best area for visitors to stay in LA for a weekend if they want to be near nightlife? I want to be near a concentration of nightlife so that I can bounce to 4-5 bars/clubs in a night.

There's three places in LA that have a concentration of nightlife, and each of them have their pros and cons. Here's the quick lowdown based on my experience.

Downtown - Mixture of bars and clubs, multiple within walking distance. More black and Latina girls than in other parts of LA. Male competition is weak (lots of dudes in oversized button downs) so if you can approach you're usually far ahead of the pack. Downside is that the girls are generally less hot than in the other two places, it gets pretty sketchy at night, and there isn't much to do during the day.

Samo/Venice - No clubs, but plenty of bars within walking distance especially on Main Street or on Pacific in Venice. If you're into white girls, probably the hottest girls in the city, with a smattering of cute Latinas and Asians. Access to places is very easy especially before 11pm (you should never pay a cover except for Buffalo Club and maybe 41Ocean, drinks cost $10 or less everywhere), which is important considering you're on vacation. Logistics are smooth if you're staying nearby, and it is also very close to the beach. The one big downside is that girls are tough to pull on the same night, and social circle is pretty key to meeting people. There's ways to work around the social circle aspect, but it is hard to pull the ONS that's for sure. Weekdays are also pretty much dead here.

Hollywood/Weho - Biggest collection of nightlife in the city, with most of the venues either on Sunset Blvd near Doheny (mainly high end clubs) or on Sunset/Hollywood between Highland and Gower. Easiest place to pull on the same night. Downside is that the hottest girls (ie: instagram models, celebs, etc) are at venues that you probably won't be able to have access to if you're just visiting for a few days. At some of those spots, spotting a $100 will get you laughed off the street. The spots you can get into really easily are usually on the shady side unless you have a connect or know specifically where you're going. You're also pretty far from the beach.

If your primary focus is nightlife rather than hitting the beach, and you dress nice (ie: suited up) and have some money to spend, I would probably stay either on Sunset or on Hollywood somewhere between Highland and Vine (can't go wrong with Hotel Roosevelt or a nice airbnb condo). Hit up anybody who lives in LA for some venue options. If you go into Hollywood unprepared, there's a lot of shitty places where you can end up.

On the other hand, if you're trying to have more of a relaxing trip, and want to kick it at the beach in the day time and hit some bars at night without much hassle or spending a lot of money, stay on Main Street in Santa Monica.

Post: #2421

(06-13-2017 06:12 PM)spaceman Wrote:  There's no real nightlife in Culver/Palms though right?
seems like its a quick uber to W. Hollywood. Santa Monica , or DTLA

There is some. the best is probably the Blind Barber. A lot of people hang at the Backstage Bar and Grill on weekend nights. Its more of a dive bar with karaoke though.

Downtown Culver is a little too Bridge and Tunnel for my taste. There are a few spots, Rush Street USED to be ok but I haven't been there in a while. Father's Office is an ok place to hang out at times, but I like the burger and beers there. Its a restaurant/bar though not a nightlife spot.

Post: #2422

Isn't there another nightlife area in the Los Feliz/East Hollywood/Silverlake/South Glendale area?

Post: #2423

(06-16-2017 09:24 AM)C-Note Wrote:  Isn't there another nightlife area in the Los Feliz/East Hollywood/Silverlake/South Glendale area?

Silver Lake/Echo Park areas have some nightlife, I remember I've posted about a few places before. The Virgil and Thirsty Crow are two spots I know well and hit up from time to time, there's some others also within walking distance. Girls are more cute rather than hot, lots of white and asian hipster types, and most dudes are your typical skinny jean soy latte hipsters, so competition isn't too high. As an LA local, I'll head out there every month or two when I want a change of scenery or if I'm hanging with a friend or two that live out there. There isn't anything else to do out there in terms of sight seeing, museums, or any other daytime activities. Los Feliz and Glendale don't have any real nightlife besides a few sporadic bars.

I wouldn't recommend posting up there if you're just visiting LA for a few days, unless you're really into hipster chicks. If you have a week or more, then sure, it might be worth heading out there for a night to see what you think, and if you vibe well with the area, then come back through for another night (it's only a ~15 minute uber from Hollywood). There is less nightlife than in Samo or Hollywood, and I've never found the downsides of those two places bad enough to warrant spending all my time in Silver Lake. It'd be sort of like visiting NYC, except only going out in Bushwick rather than anywhere on Manhattan. It's a very different experience.

Post: #2424

One area that hasn't been mentioned much in recent LA threads specifically for looking for girls are the beaches themselves. If you've got good beach game, there are hotties here and there. But again, based on my times there, girls are usually in groups with minimum of two so you'll either need to have a competent wing or get good at opening and charming 2 sets. Unless you have tight logistics by beach, I might recommend Venice since they girls are more likely to be local whereas Santa Monica will be more touristy and again, unless you've got good logistics to close, getting phone numbers will be pointless since girls will be leaving soon.

I've seen some streams where even one or two girls I've passed in Venice Beach would be the hottest girl in a dive bar and they're there on the beach, in a chill, relaxed mood, waiting for adventure.

I'd rather go to the beach free of charge with good likelihood of seeing girls I find attractive as opposed to paying money for a few to possibly many beers only to see fat chicks and dudes.

Post: #2425

I'll be back in LA in a few months and plan to stay at least a few years. I've probably spent a total of about 5 years living in LA mostly during college, but I probably approached less than 200 girls in that entire 5 years. When I was trying to get over my severe social anxiety I used to regularly go to 3rd street to do day game, but basically that consisted of going to the Barnes and Noble and approaching one or two girls and going home. I was back in LA last year for a short time with a much better sense of game and barely any approach anxiety, but I didn't have much time and privacy to approach.

Guys always say that it is easy to find tourists on 3rd Street (SM). Is this really true? I mean it seem obvious to a certain degree, but I just can't recall speaking to more than a handful of foreign, non-American, tourists. I'm very interested in getting Flags and I love day game, so would it be worth it to make it out to 3rd street one day a week, probably on the weekend, and just try to game for like 1-3 hours? Also, can someone tell me the ideal time to be there on a Saturday or Sunday for the purpose of meeting single girls? I know 3rd street stays busy basically all day, but I feel like at night it becomes full of couples.

I will be living very close to DTLA, and although I want to spend a bit of time in the nightlife of SM/Venice and other beach cities, I don't want to drive to SM twice in one day. I'm thinking I'll just make it to Wilshire and take the bus out, reading a book both ways.

Thanks for the info in advance, it will save me many hours of trying to figure everything out on my own.