Post: #5676

(06-01-2017 11:23 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 10:51 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^Better in what sense?

Women - hell yeah.

Other stuff is up for debate.

What about this notion that in most places you're considered an American (assuming you're from the US) instead of a Black man? Surely this is categorically better than purse clutchers and American Gestapo (read US police) here.

That is BS, they still see your black skin.

I was at a border town in Germany once, on my way home to the UK from Czech Rep. I was at a crowded train station on a Sunday afternoon, two undercover police approached me about documents.

The only other guy they pulled over was a turk/arab looking guy, he looked at me and we smirked.

I looked "American" wearing my timberlands, cargo pants, Henley and ripped jean jacket.

This happened to me twice and this was long before the migrant problem. The second time it happened I was prepared, I threw them my wallet as I continued eating my delicious hot dog. When they saw the EU British passport they seemed dejected, I think I had the Canadian passport as well for good measure.

I am not one to cry racism, but I have been to more than a few places in Europe and experienced "minor" things. No one has ever touched me and I have never seen anyone dragged out of a car or tasered like in America.

Post: #5677

Meh, to be honest, and I don't say this to be pessimistic, on the contrary, I sort of see this as a good thing at some level, but there is no real one country that is best for us.

It sucks when you first think about it, but after you let the idea wash over you, you realize you can literally just show up somewhere and do what needs to be done to ensure some degree of comfort for yourself. That'll vary from man to man, but I have long since given up on the idea of finding a place where I "belong."

I will simply live where I want to live and do me. Of course, this isn't the answer for many guys and it isn't intended to be, but after parsing through the various experiences of the men on the forum and thinking of my own experience, I think i'll never be able to shake the feeling of discrimination and the reality of it.

I've just come to the conclusion that we were dealt a genetic rawhand in some sense. For whatever reason, many countries look at us as a liability. Nothing we can do about it.

Ukraine, England, America, China or whateverthefuckistan, they're always going to think we're weird and "outsiders" so fuck it.

Get your online business going, explore the world and find a place you can bear to live.

That's my plan at least.

At the very least, leave USA. I've never been happier since I left NJ. I go back to visit for a few weeks every year and get the fuck out ASAP. That's no place for a black man.

Post: #5678

(06-01-2017 11:51 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 11:23 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 10:51 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^Better in what sense?

Women - hell yeah.

Other stuff is up for debate.

What about this notion that in most places you're considered an American (assuming you're from the US) instead of a Black man? Surely this is categorically better than purse clutchers and American Gestapo (read US police) here.

Hmmm...yeah there is no heavy handed anti-black police sanctioned racism in Europe in my experiences in West, Central and Eastern Europe. The reasons why are complicated and could be it's own thread if you wish or may be better discussed offline.

The short version of it is...there arent that many blacks in Europe, although thats changing throughtout the continent. European cities with long established black populations like Paris and London are not without their issues with the police. A black man was forcebly sodomized by a police officer while in custody, in Paris in 2017! A similar event happened in N.Y.C in the mid 2000s.

Some of it stems from being war heroes in WW2. Jim Crow laws created entire platoons of American blacks so when you get a bunch of them rolling in an liberating a country they probably treat you well lol--or better than the Jim Crow US at the time I'm sure.

Post: #5679

(06-01-2017 11:52 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  Guys I'm starting to think that collecting numbers is no longer the move for contacting a woman for a date in nite game...
I was talking to this white glamazon last night and I gave her a piece of paper to right her number on (her cock blockers were on high alert). She wrote down her IG instead. I laughed at her for that shit and she said "its easier to reach me here look at my text messages (140+ unread) I just don't read them anymore."

Thinking about it this morning on several occasions I've had texts get no response but messaging via snapchat will lead to a date. Shit all makes sense now looking back at a lot of failed text messages.

This is game. I'm old enough that I'm feelin the pressure against going into this "newfangled nonsense," but I'm gonna get on Snapchat anyway, fuck this I want dem hoes

Post: #5680

(06-01-2017 11:52 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  Guys I'm starting to think that collecting numbers is no longer the move for contacting a woman for a date in nite game...
I was talking to this white glamazon last night and I gave her a piece of paper to right her number on (her cock blockers were on high alert). She wrote down her IG instead. I laughed at her for that shit and she said "its easier to reach me here look at my text messages (140+ unread) I just don't read them anymore."

Thinking about it this morning on several occasions I've had texts get no response but messaging via snapchat will lead to a date. Shit all makes sense now looking back at a lot of failed text messages.

I remember when I was younger and first going out and getting my feet wet in night game getting a # was a huge deal.

I opened a stunner last week.....had the broad enter the # herself with her knowing damned well it wasn't even in service,lol. And a lot of these lazy hoes will always yap about how busy they've been at work as a lame excuse for not replying to texts in a timely manner.

The only way I can somewhat bypass this is having prime logistics to escalate quicker when opening these broads here by inviting them to come by for a drink right off the bat.

The only women I've enjoyed texting back n forth here were new immigrants where English isn't their first language. I find em eager to learn new words in texts and they're a bit shy and playfully embarrassed about not knowing some phrases.

Post: #5681

(06-01-2017 11:52 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  Guys I'm starting to think that collecting numbers is no longer the move for contacting a woman for a date in nite game...
I was talking to this white glamazon last night and I gave her a piece of paper to right her number on (her cock blockers were on high alert). She wrote down her IG instead. I laughed at her for that shit and she said "its easier to reach me here look at my text messages (140+ unread) I just don't read them anymore."

Thinking about it this morning on several occasions I've had texts get no response but messaging via snapchat will lead to a date. Shit all makes sense now looking back at a lot of failed text messages.

I actually asked you about this "number collecting" strategy a while back and thought it was futile unless it was a "solid number". I wasn't hating but didn't think that idea worked well and it seems like I was right that it doesn't.

I had def been down that road before and cut that out.

Snapchat is becoming useful for DHV and I use it alot now.

Post: #5682

(06-01-2017 01:14 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 11:52 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  Guys I'm starting to think that collecting numbers is no longer the move for contacting a woman for a date in nite game...
I was talking to this white glamazon last night and I gave her a piece of paper to right her number on (her cock blockers were on high alert). She wrote down her IG instead. I laughed at her for that shit and she said "its easier to reach me here look at my text messages (140+ unread) I just don't read them anymore."

Thinking about it this morning on several occasions I've had texts get no response but messaging via snapchat will lead to a date. Shit all makes sense now looking back at a lot of failed text messages.

I actually asked you about this "number collecting" strategy a while back and thought it was futile unless it was a "solid number". I wasn't hating but didn't think that idea worked well and it seems like I was right that it doesn't.

I had def been down that road before and cut that out.

Snapchat is becoming useful for DHV and I use it alot now.

Word, but what last night's revelation taught me was that dead cold number leads can turn into at least a 50% warm lead over snapchat or IG. Ive had girls not respond at all over a number then I'll add them on snapchat and all the sudden they are pleasant as fuck. I'm sure the DHV from the two has something to do with it tho

Post: #5683

SnapChat is the way to go. All they see is how awesome you are. They can't tell how many followers you have or anything else besides what YOU want them to see. I've pulled bishes that ignored me previously but then got a taste of my awesome baller ass lifestyle and fell for the bait, lol.
These basic ass single-celled-organism-like bishes get exactly what they deserve, the dyck!

Post: #5684

(06-01-2017 12:57 PM)Banna Wrote:  I remember when I was younger and first going out and getting my feet wet in night game getting a # was a huge deal.

I opened a stunner last week.....had the broad enter the # herself with her knowing damned well it wasn't even in service,lol. And a lot of these lazy hoes will always yap about how busy they've been at work as a lame excuse for not replying to texts in a timely manner.

The only way I can somewhat bypass this is having prime logistics to escalate quicker when opening these broads here by inviting them to come by for a drink right off the bat.

The only women I've enjoyed texting back n forth here were new immigrants where English isn't their first language. I find em eager to learn new words in texts and they're a bit shy and playfully embarrassed about not knowing some phrases.

I have an <insert family member> who suggests to strongly push for SNL that night. The number thing is firing on a 40 percent success rate (maybe less) with Western lizards.

Post: #5685

I believe I talked about getting numbers back in the day was like finding gold.

Today, it is a way for her to fob you off.

Social media like IG/Snapchat is a great way to stay connected, showcase how awesome you are and what they are missing.

I have noticed a few gals that I know on IG, go a bit silent as of late. Only so much BS you can post I guess.

Post: #5686

Phone #'s are almost useless these days. Especially at night, you have to push for the SNL always.

The number is just a hail mary to maybe get a date going but 9 times out of 10 if she isn't feeling you then, she won't warm up to you over text messages. I get the number indirect sometimes by asking for their Whatsapp in which they have to give me their number, but this is usually after they give me their Snapchat.

Girls will give out fake numbers, or even their real numbers and just never reply. Many girls are crafty enough to know about those blocker apps and will just put a dudes number in there once he starts to hit her up.

Girls are adapting to having to deal with this abundance of attention. Most girls are just funnelling it to where they can reap the most rewards from it (IG or Snapchat). More times than not she is just collecting dudes so she can funnel them towards her social media to get more likes and followers.

All my leads go cold after I swoop the number. If I can't get it going that night it is on me, barring fucked up logistics or things that I could not control.

For me, I am just trying to figure out where are spots where girls got their guard. I still think work (service work, temp jobs) type environments are best. Girls have to cool the ego down a bit when they on the clock trying to get paid. It is easy to convert that into fun nights after work where you can get sloppy. I still recommend if you can, working front of a house in lounges, restos, bars, on weekends just purely to swoop the in and out staff that rolls through. I have never had a shitty service job where I did not manage to swoop.

Post: #5687

(06-02-2017 11:50 AM)kosko Wrote:  Phone #'s are almost useless these days. Especially at night, you have to push for the SNL always.

The number is just a hail mary to maybe get a date going but 9 times out of 10 if she isn't feeling you then, she won't warm up to you over text messages. I get the number indirect sometimes by asking for their Whatsapp in which they have to give me their number, but this is usually after they give me their Snapchat.

Girls will give out fake numbers, or even their real numbers and just never reply. Many girls are crafty enough to know about those blocker apps and will just put a dudes number in there once he starts to hit her up.

Girls are adapting to having to deal with this abundance of attention. Most girls are just funnelling it to where they can reap the most rewards from it (IG or Snapchat). More times than not she is just collecting dudes so she can funnel them towards her social media to get more likes and followers.

All my leads go cold after I swoop the number. If I can't get it going that night it is on me, barring fucked up logistics or things that I could not control.

For me, I am just trying to figure out where are spots where girls got their guard. I still think work (service work, temp jobs) type environments are best. Girls have to cool the ego down a bit when they on the clock trying to get paid. It is easy to convert that into fun nights after work where you can get sloppy. I still recommend if you can, working front of a house in lounges, restos, bars, on weekends just purely to swoop the in and out staff that rolls through. I have never had a shitty service job where I did not manage to swoop.

Hopefully you guys are talking about Western girls exclusively. They don't act like this in Europe do they (these descriptions of hoes are half the reason I'm fuckin leaving)

Post: #5688

(06-02-2017 11:50 AM)kosko Wrote:  Girls are adapting to having to deal with this abundance of attention. Most girls are just funnelling it to where they can reap the most rewards from it (IG or Snapchat). More times than not she is just collecting dudes so she can funnel them towards her social media to get more likes and followers.

True shit.

It's looking like girls have a social filter they turn on in situations where they get flooded with attention and it has the effect of making them numb to all of it. So the dude who's a 6 and the dude who's a 9 both get shut out because they all run into that attention filter when running night game. And it's an equalizer. Too much attention turns on a girl's "resource collection" mode; they stop being sexual creatures and instead try to monetize the attention, no matter how hot the individual dudes are.

I think it's worthwhile to tailor your night game to break through that instead of avoid it though, because once the girl sees you and starts to pay attention to you, it gets ridiculously easy to bang her. We live in a time where game is more effective than it has ever been and deep conversions are available even to the dude who's a 6 with low-level game. But the attention filter is harder to break through than ever before.

So the emphasis for night game then becomes smashing through the filter—after that you're playing on easy mode. That's how I think social media has shifted things: all the work is in breaking through the attention filter, then you're all but done. Because the attention filter is so thick, so complete, girls effectively never allow themselves to get real attention because all the attention is considered a monetization resource.

It is never registered as sexual attention because her filter does not allow it to get sexual. Everything outside the attention filter is asexual to her. Break through that and you're basically talking to a lonely girl who is thirsty as hell for a "real man" that she will allow herself to be attracted to. It's a tinder approach to guys that they apply to real life.

I'm seeing more and more of that every day and the result is that the key skill in night game is instant differentiation from other guys. If you can master that you can find pre-instagram era success in night game without having to look for low guard points.

Post: #5689

Kris, it's all North America. Outside of North America, it's like shooting ducks in a barrel. North America is a place where you can tighten up your front end game because you have no choice. It's only in North America that I had to open 30 lizards to get one yes.

Post: #5690

(06-02-2017 11:50 AM)kosko Wrote:  I still think work (service work, temp jobs) type environments are best. Girls have to cool the ego down a bit when they on the clock trying to get paid.

Ain't that the truth. I've seen bishes who think they the baddest bish around when they're out who literally wipe ass and clean up shit for a living as a CNA. I make no bones about reminding them of it, lol.

Post: #5691

I just returned from Barbados, the report is right here:

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Post: #5692

What are you guys thoughts on Black PUA's? Have you found any of them useful? Which Black PUA's did you find the most helpful?

I've been looking at a few black PUA's recently. RSD Madison has good infield videos if you are into approaching white women. Justin Wayne's Domino Theory was interesting and the videos were amazing, but I'm not sure how good his game really is. Tariq Nasheed has good inner game advice. You have to listen to his earlier podcasts to get the good game insights. His later podcasts are more focused on him railing against White Supremacy.

Post: #5693

Most black PUA doods I've seen are like the ones you mentioned, chasing after white women, tap dancing for them with canned BS. Seems like PUA game directed towards Black women is universal and presented in a much more organic form.

Post: #5694

I like Madison, but his advice isn't tailor made for black dudes. The other dudes don't really rate to me.

It begs the question, what exactly would make game advice black specific - because black guys are a very diverse group and have diverse tastes.

Like Madison is a Canadian black dude that doesn't often meet and date black American women. Black chicks aren't the same as white chicks, and white chicks are their own universe. Once you start bringing in the rest of humanity - most guys can't handle the complexity. They do what Madison does, and revert to the mean.

Post: #5695

A friend of mine recently started dating a black girl. He doesn't date a lot and got burned in a previous relationship with a white girl.
He got introduced to this black girl from a mutual friend.
The black girl was very aggressive and put a choke hold on him from the start.
After two months, he posted pics of himself and her on his social media. Before he never had a face pic on his IG.
He now calls her #bae and his #betterhalf.
I am suppose to meet her in person shortly, I am not looking forward to it.
She isn't a girl I would date or look at.

I find the dynamics interesting.

Post: #5696

After only two months?

Rudebwoy you need to enlighten this man. He's outta control.

Post: #5697

Post instagram, i no longer see the value in game. the 7s, 8s and 9s 70% are going to the highest bidder/jump offs for celebs/athletes. The other 30% have a lot of leveredge and can pick and choose there ideal dude.

This is leaving a lot of 5s and 6s with inflated values/attitudes in the dating market. Im not gonna campaign for the 5s and 6s.

My philosopy now is just make money here and holiday/have fun in the D.R. i can see myself doing this until im ready to retire in the D.R.

Pre instagram i would have waves of good quality, often 3 on the go at 1 time., it does seem now that the girls are holding out for monetization. The influence of Reality TV Housewives/kardashians. at 28 girls are generally falling off, so a lot easier to deal with a single parent 30 year old female who is past her best and out of shape. But the single 23-24 year olds 7+ seem a lot harder then 5 years ago. Im just 31.

Its forced me to focus less on game and more on Creating business and multiple streams of income.

Post: #5698

(06-06-2017 01:55 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  After only two months?

Rudebwoy you need to enlighten this man. He's outta control.

Kirdiesel my man, it is very upsetting.

I had been working with him for a long time, building his confidence and trying to show him the ways.

I better stop here........

Post: #5699

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)giama Wrote:  Post instagram, i no longer see the value in game. the 7s, 8s and 9s 70% are going to the highest bidder/jump offs for celebs/athletes. The other 30% have a lot of leveredge and can pick and choose there ideal dude.

This is leaving a lot of 5s and 6s with inflated values/attitudes in the dating market. Im not gonna campaign for the 5s and 6s.

My philosopy now is just make money here and holiday/have fun in the D.R. i can see myself doing this until im ready to retire in the D.R.

Pre instagram i would have waves of good quality, often 3 on the go at 1 time., it does seem now that the girls are holding out for monetization. The influence of Reality TV Housewives/kardashians. at 28 girls are generally falling off, so a lot easier to deal with a single parent 30 year old female who is past her best and out of shape. But the single 23-24 year olds 7+ seem a lot harder then 5 years ago. Im just 31.

Its forced me to focus less on game and more on Creating business and multiple streams of income.

I agree.

I won't lie, I would not want to be a young cat out here navigating today's dating dynamics. The internet and social media has created an insanely inflated SMV bubble where extra-ordinary bishes now feel extraordinary. An overweight friend I went to grad school with posted herself up on IG in a bathing suit and just knew she was killing it. I thought to myself, on what phucking planet do you think this obeseness is desirable?? I unfollowed that bish.


I'm grateful to be at the stage in my life where I really don't give af about women all that much. My #1 concern is getting paid and improving my quality of life.

Post: #5700

Speaking of Reality TV Housewives,

Do you think a normal black guy has a shot with a Black Woman who is similar to the women on the Real Housewives of Atlanta/DC/NY/etc. I feel like the Black women on those shows might be harder to get than the White women. It would be difficult to get her out of her frame of looking for a baller/rapper/millionaire with just game.