Islam is a valuable resource in the fight against feminism in the US. Men need a stable environment to commit to raising children. Western culture isn't providing it.
This is a video of an Islamic scholar who was talking on a panel. A feminist bitch jumps up in the audience and accuses him of believing women were inferior to men because the panel was all men. Notice the demeanor of the scholar, how he is patient and not the least bit upset by her rude interruptions. He lets her blabber on and in his last line he calmly demolishes her argument. This is why the Muslims are winning with women.
(05-31-2017 03:40 PM)Sherman Wrote: Islam is a valuable resource in the fight against feminism in the US. Men need a stable environment to commit to raising children. Western culture isn't providing it.
This is a video of an Islamic scholar who was talking on a panel. A feminist bitch jumps up in the audience and accuses him of believing women were inferior to men because the panel was all men. Notice the demeanor of the scholar, how he is patient and not the least bit upset by her rude interruptions. He lets her blabber on and in his last line he calmly demolishes her argument. This is why the Muslims are winning with women.
The West survived well without feminism for centuries after it was done fighting against that stupid death-cult of yours. Your idiotic cause here is lost. No one is going to swallow it except 1 guy.
Here is how Islam is enriching the world. Iraq got 7 bombs on one day - fantastic news.
Converting to Islam in order to fight against feminism is like cutting off your head in order to cure yourself from dandruff.
(05-31-2017 03:40 PM)Sherman Wrote: Islam is a valuable resource in the fight against feminism in the US. Men need a stable environment to commit to raising children. Western culture isn't providing it.
This is a video of an Islamic scholar who was talking on a panel. A feminist bitch jumps up in the audience and accuses him of believing women were inferior to men because the panel was all men. Notice the demeanor of the scholar, how he is patient and not the least bit upset by her rude interruptions. He lets her blabber on and in his last line he calmly demolishes her argument. This is why the Muslims are winning with women.
Surely they would be the cure to your rampant drug and alcohol abuse problems over there?
Why would you deprive needy Mayheeco of this cultural saviour? The West still has so much while your native lands suffer!
We'll understand that you have to look after yourselves first. You can have all the muslim refugees, Sherman. It's a sacrifice on our behalf, but you guys need them much more than we do.
That Muslim scholar's response to the feminist was brilliant. She rants and raves at him while he is patient and calm. Then he tells her that there are differences between men and women. She then challenges him saying "tell me about them". He then says "This is one clear difference, that you got frustrated very quickly". He is right and he showed the audience the truth of it by letting them see it in real time. Men are patient and calm under fire. Women become easily frustrated and emotional. That's why men need to be in charge.
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The thing that impresses me most about peaceful Islam is the men. They have a combination of humbleness, calm, and strength. Like Muhammad Ali. In real life Ali couldn't hurt a flee, but yet he was a strong, powerful man. The peaceful Muslims deal with all the crap we deal with, plus the added burden of having criminals using their religion in the name of criminal activity. But yet they are having children and working in the real world. That takes strength. A feminist can't face a man with inner calm strength. She either runs away or submits.
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(05-31-2017 09:54 PM)Sherman Wrote: The thing that impresses me most about peaceful Islam is the men. They have a combination of humbleness, calm, and strength. Like Muhammad Ali. In real life Ali couldn't hurt a flee, but yet he was a strong, powerful man. The peaceful Muslims deal with all the crap we deal with, plus the added burden of having criminals using their religion in the name of criminal activity. But yet they are having children and working in the real world. That takes strength. A feminist can't face a man with inner calm strength. She either runs away or submits.
One of the criminals as you call it was Mohammed himself:
Quote:Sahih Bukhari (52:54) - The words of Muhammad: "I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred."
This is why modern-day Jihadists often say that they love death.
It is you who is the criminal for not following the will of Mohammed.
Quote:Sahih Bukhari (52:46) - "Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty."
Sahih Muslim (20:4678) - During the battle of Uhud, Muhammad was desperate to push men into battle. He promised paradise for those who would martyr themselves, prompting a young man who was eating dates to throw them away and rush to his death.
You are like a dumb cult follower who tries to justify why your Great Leader just bought his 27th Rolls Royce while you toil in the fields. Also you justify why your Great Leader is fucking all the young girls in your group while you are given the 50yo converts.
Islam is even worse than that.
It does not matter what Muslims are and do, since so many ignore the clear commands of Mohammed. Accepting this evil bullshit cult into your life is 100.000 times worse than accepting feminism. Feminists would quickly react to a changed globalist media narrative. In contrast Islam would react with more suicide attacks since many more would become Ex-Muslims after finding out such morsels as above.
(05-31-2017 09:54 PM)Sherman Wrote: The thing that impresses me most about peaceful Islam is the men. They have a combination of humbleness, calm, and strength.
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Islam sucks, sure, but so does this idea of banning it that a lot of you promote. That's not gonna happen. You won't ban Islam. You won't genocide all Muslims and Arabs, no matter how many more suicide bombings occur. These are simply not feasible solutions.
You can, however, improve relations with the Muslim world. Things the West can do to stop Islamic extremism:
- stop bombing them
- withdraw all support for Israel (maintain a neutral position)
- begin re-construction efforts of all the countries in the ME that have been bombed to the stone age
Read "Blowback" by Chalmers Johnson. These suicide bombers don't appear out of thin air. They saw their neighbors in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan being torn apart by a targeted missile. What the fuck do you expect? Islam or not, that's gonna make an impact on a person's mentality.
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All your 3 steps above were fact some 200 years ago. No one attacked Islam. Islam attacked everyone else for 1400 years and only stopped because the West had become so incredibly overwhelmingly powerful. It is written into their code and the Muslims convey those same things if you add them to the West.
This will NEVER STOP!
Now aside from banning there is massive enforced secularization possible, but that secularization would have to be pushed by all the globalists and all Muslim leadership countries. And at times it would be brutal with an instant crack-down even on a Youtuber who claimes that Jihad is great - like SWAT teams to IP addresses fight.
So get used to Islamic terror, because even if the West stopped bombing, stopped supporting Israel and gave aid for reconstruction - that would not change anything. You get 2 suicide bombers less at best.
Great interview here with two Ex-Muslims - one first gen Iraqi, second Palestinian Chilean.
I agree fully with those guys.
Also I agree that there should not be a total ban of the Quran. A good first step is actually to fucking read the translated Quran and the first meaningful Hadiths. I would be all for it in reality - mandatory literature. Becuase if you did that, then no one in his right mind would call this The Religion of Peace. Instead it thrives on ignorance.
(06-01-2017 06:58 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: So get used to Islamic terror, because even if the West stopped bombing, stopped supporting Israel and gave aid for reconstruction - that would not change anything. You get 2 suicide bombers less at best.
That's fine. Personally, I have no dog in this fight. I'm more of an observer of this human spectacle on Earth. You won't see me shedding a tear for Palestinians, nor do I give a shit about dead American soldiers in Afghanistan.
I'm just a believer in "you do X you get y". We talk about that all the time on this forum, but for some reason make an exception when NATO rains bombs on Muslim villages. Keep bombing Muslims if that's what you want, but don't blame the Quran next time they fly a plane into a building.
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(06-01-2017 07:16 AM)heavy Wrote: Tiger, do you not believe in philosophical differences? Cultural differences?
Individualism vs Collectivism?
I see your point, but I also see cultures that are 500+ years apart.
Oh sure, yea. I'm opposed to large-scale Muslim immigration as much as the next guy. At the end of the day, I think separation is the best way, just maintain friendly relations and trade with them if possible. Maybe Zel is right, maybe that's not what the "globalists" want. They probably want an exacerbation of this conflict, they want an Islam vs. modernity all-out war because it suits their interests. I don't know if that's it.
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Between him being that stupid and trying to troll us I'm not sure which is worse. The first possibility defies reason, the second is maddening because he must think we are all even stupider than he would be if he actually believed that nonsense
"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."
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(06-01-2017 07:16 AM)heavy Wrote: Tiger, do you not believe in philosophical differences? Cultural differences?
Individualism vs Collectivism?
I see your point, but I also see cultures that are 500+ years apart.
Oh sure, yea. I'm opposed to large-scale Muslim immigration as much as the next guy. At the end of the day, I think separation is the best way, just maintain friendly relations and trade with them if possible. Maybe Zel is right, maybe that's not what the "globalists" want. They probably want an exacerbation of this conflict, they want an Islam vs. modernity all-out war because it suits their interests. I don't know if that's it.
I've definitely wondered that. The first thing I thought after the Manchester bombing was, great, now we have another distraction from all of our domestic issues. This feels like what the big R and D want.
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(06-01-2017 06:52 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote: Islam sucks, sure, but so does this idea of banning it that a lot of you promote. That's not gonna happen. You won't ban Islam. You won't genocide all Muslims and Arabs, no matter how many more suicide bombings occur. These are simply not feasible solutions.
You can, however, improve relations with the Muslim world. Things the West can do to stop Islamic extremism:
- stop bombing them
- withdraw all support for Israel (maintain a neutral position)
- begin re-construction efforts of all the countries in the ME that have been bombed to the stone age
Read "Blowback" by Chalmers Johnson. These suicide bombers don't appear out of thin air. They saw their neighbors in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan being torn apart by a targeted missile. What the fuck do you expect? Islam or not, that's gonna make an impact on a person's mentality.
Before that can happen, we have to be able to criticize Islam without being called "Islamaphobic." Or, we have to live in a society where childish name-calling like that is not taken seriously. We have to live in a society where Islamic political activists such as Linda Sarsour are a curious sideshow, not prominent thought leaders convincing American women to wear hijab in solidarity with Islam. We have to live in a society that is sufficiently confident in its core values to stand up to the fundamental conflicts that will inevitably occur. The Muslim Brotherhood and its progeny must be rendered powerless.
That is not the world we live in right now.
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(06-01-2017 06:58 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: So get used to Islamic terror, because even if the West stopped bombing, stopped supporting Israel and gave aid for reconstruction - that would not change anything. You get 2 suicide bombers less at best.
That's fine. Personally, I have no dog in this fight. I'm more of an observer of this human spectacle on Earth. You won't see me shedding a tear for Palestinians, nor do I give a shit about dead American soldiers in Afghanistan.
I'm just a believer in "you do X you get y". We talk about that all the time on this forum, but for some reason make an exception when NATO rains bombs on Muslim villages. Keep bombing Muslims if that's what you want, but don't blame the Quran next time they fly a plane into a building.
So are middle-eastern muslims tossing gay middle eastern muslims off of tall buildings because the US is bombing them?
Secondly, if they're tossing gay muslims off of buildings in adherence to scripture, why do you think they would stop killing infidels, which is also commanded in scripture?
You're "just a believer in "you do X you get y"."
Take a low IQ population and indoctrinate them with an ideology that commands them to kill unbelievers and that dying in the process is the only sure way to get to heaven. If that's the "x", what will be the "y"?
I'm very sceptical of your capacity to link x to y in any meaningful way. You seem to be hopeful at best. There is no evidence to suggest that hundreds of years of islamic aggression will cease if we stop bombing them and fix their countries.
Would you care to suggest a reason that muslims are also aggressors against other nations, cultures and peoples that aren't bombing the middle east? How do x and y fit together there?
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(06-01-2017 01:45 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: It does not matter what Muslims are and do, since so many ignore the clear commands of Mohammed. Accepting this evil bullshit cult into your life is 100.000 times worse than accepting feminism.
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