RE: Explosion in Manchester's Ariana Grande concert
(05-24-2017 08:21 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote: Ocelot, if I ever had to experience that disgusting invasion of my sleep and privacy, that alone would lead me to a state of rage and distraction that would prompt the contemplation of extraordinary measures requiring real changes to one's life.
There are few things worse than to be awoken from a civilized dawn slumber in the heart of a city and neighborhood that you love -- perhaps one that you've known since childhood -- by that belligerently loud, braying, insistent, and foreign call. It is a terrible reminder that something has gone disgracefully wrong, and until it is remedied life's best fruits will not taste as sweet as they should.
When certain parts of everyday life suddenly begin to leave a bad taste in one's mouth -- a taste that cannot be easily ignored -- that is when a man begins to think differently about what he must do. I think that some decent men in Europe are starting to feel that bad taste.
I laughed hard when I read that, because I gather from some of your posts over the years that you are OBSESSED with quality sleep. While most posters in this thread object to Islamisation due to terrorism, rape, sharia law etc etc, your primary objection is how it would affect your sleep!
At first glance, this might seem like a comparitively petty complaint, nothing more than a minor annoyance. I mean how dare you complain about your broken slumber when teenage girls are being raped and having their heads blown off. But it's a much more important complaint than one would think, especially if you haven't lived in/traveled to and Islamic country and experienced this god-awful wailing over megaphones at 4:30 in the morning.
And I don't mean that just because it's an obnoxious and unpleasant sound to wake up to every morning. It's because the introduction of the call to prayer in non-Islamic countries is really the canary in the coal mine of oppressive Islam making serious inroads into our world.
Think about it. The call to prayer five times per day is a way to control people's lives. As soon as believers hear this autistic howling, they must immediately drop everything they are doing and prostrate themselves towards Mecca. It's just one of the many ways in which Islam seeks to control every aspect of believer's lives. And having control over people's lives is completely antithetical to the values we have evolved in the West. As soon as it is accepted that a minority of zealots subject us to foreign and dispriting practices such as the call to prayer in our communities, even if it's not widely followed and merely seen as further enrichment, it is certain that it will be followed with even more oppressive and foreign practices.
Imagine having to wake up to this every morning. I can appreciate beauty in music from many cultures, but the call to prayer is just ugly.
RE: Explosion in Manchester's Ariana Grande concert
(05-24-2017 09:22 AM)Roosh Wrote: I did a video on the bombing:
Fully agree with that.
It will not wake them up.
The West will wake up somewhat if the globalists and their media tell them so, but then it will be to usher in the next step of the agenda.
Also how should we fight this? Blaming those terrorists is also useless, they do what their prophet tells them to, we cannot say that we are surprised.
So this will continue, we take precautions, maybe move and avoid certain locations while staying a calm observer.
Dealing with it too much just destroys the vibe. These crazy times we live in will pass one day too. Humanity will survive, civilization is too far spread out to be snuffed out. If hyper-space-ships were real, then I would be already gone and busy colonizing another planet. Ah well....
RE: Explosion in Manchester's Ariana Grande concert
(05-24-2017 07:02 AM)redpillage Wrote: You're apparently new here and probably haven't seen my older posts in the European Invasion thread.
Appreciate the response. I've snipped your post not for lack of substance, merely to keep my posts tidy.
I've lurked on the MI thread for over a year, it's been my only reliable source of updates. I would contribute more but alas, being in Poland I would have to peruse the Internet to hear about anything happening and other contributors are already doing a bang up job reporting incidents.
As for giving insight I have nothing to add beyond what is said already in the extensive posts from yourself and Zel, just to name another-others need not my recognition. I only just found myself being invested in global circumstances since Aug '15, so I have meager experience too. Taking all this into account I simply abstain to avoid posting filler.
I'm a big fan of your posts, I wish I had known someone like you in my hometown. I've had to come here to find anyone with the same sentiments regarding this mess of a situation on top of the educational background to discuss it objectively.
Anyway I'm aware of most of that which you've written, I had merely hoped having deaths of children would be some kind of wakeup call. Moral outrage at the very least. But no, anger is once again considered non conducive to proceedings. The joining of hands shall ruleth the day in it's stead.
I'm sure plenty of wars were won through hand-holding.
RE: Explosion in Manchester's Ariana Grande concert
Attack happened on anniversary of Lee Rigsby murder.
The bomb maker is still active in the UK - the suicide bomber was not the bomb maker. More of such attacks are still to come.
Terrorist was a devout Muslim who had memorized the entire Quran - very few actually do this.
David Wood also explains why Jihadis pick such targets like very Westernized concerts - mainly because the chance of killing a devout Muslim there is zero. All collateral Muslims would be hypocrites and deserving of the same punishment as unbelievers.
RE: Explosion in Manchester's Ariana Grande concert
(05-24-2017 09:54 AM)Horus Wrote: Imagine having to wake up to this every morning. I can appreciate beauty in music from many cultures, but the call to prayer is just ugly.
Yeesh, that vocal is way too distorted. Bet they never thought about getting a better mic or upgrading their PA-systems.
But anyway, I think I could live without hearing such divine melodies 5 times a day.
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(05-24-2017 05:41 AM)AntiMediocrity Wrote: I am not afraid. I simply refuse to spend time and money on places that cannot ensure the safety of it's visitors/participants, call it boycotting if you will. What if people stopped going to concerts? The industry would finally realise that the nations enabling of terrorism has a direct impact on it's own infrastructure and subsequently the infrastructure of the nation, and in turn the both might do something about it.
The idea that something bad happens, and it's business as usual means there's no incentive for change and ergo nothing will be changed in the long term. This is simple logic and the fact that there are people in my nation who can't see this, and instead revert back to complacency each time frustrates the hell out of me.
Very good point. Though our votes have no power our money does.
RE: Explosion in Manchester's Ariana Grande concert
The muslims use loudspeakers (invented by non-muslim white males) to make a lot of noise with the calls to prayers. According to many reports, the noise disturbs the sleep of people, especially during Ramadan, so how can they be productive during the day?
Quote:Ramadan in Indonesia
...during Ramadan the mosques go into overdrive. Their crackling speakers blare out not only the azan, but also calls to worshippers to wake before the pre-dawn sahur breakfast that begins the day-long fast, and Koran recitations that go on almost all day and night.
“It’s worse during Ramadan,” complained Kusuma, who for the past three years has lived in a rented room only 20 metres (65 feet) from the closest mosque.
In Indonesia, Ramadan — a time of year when Muslims forgo food, drink and sex between dawn and dusk — started on July 21. Eid al-Fitr, the feast marking the end of the fasting month, falls on August 19. Dates may vary elsewhere.
But while it is regarded as one of the most spiritual periods in the Islamic calendar, for many it is also the most noisy.
“Most people wake up just before 4:30 am for a quick sahur, but the speakers start calling the people to wake up at 2:30 am ,” said Kusuma.
“They repeat it many times, along with Koran recitations — and then comes the azan at dawn,” he said.
Kusuma compares the sound to “someone screaming in my ear” and says he usually tries to return home after 9pm when at least the special evening Ramadan prayers are over.
“If it wasn’t for ear plugs, I wouldn’t get a wink of sleep during all of Ramadan.”
With hundreds of thousands of mosques in this nation of 240 million people, most city and town dwellers are accosted every dawn by the intermingling cacophony blaring out of three or four mosques, each broadcasting its own azan.
For some people — especially non-Muslim foreigners unfamiliar with the routine and naive enough to rent a place without checking the distance from the closest mosque — it can all be too much.
Two years ago, an American running a guesthouse near a mosque on the tourist island of Lombok snapped during a prayer reading and yanked the wire connecting the speaker. He was sentenced to five months in jail for blasphemy.
Anita Rizki, a 22-year-old secretary at a private hospital in Jakarta, said the mosques were bad enough throughout the year, but became impossible during Ramadan, which is one of the five pillars of Islam.
“I feel guilty for my non-Muslim neighbours, because the noises keep them up all night,” said Rizki, who lives 100-metres from a large mosque.
“People have different faiths. Our devotion doesn’t need to be broadcast through a loudspeaker. It only shows a lack of religious tolerance.”
According to ear specialist Ronny Suwento, “the noise level can reach dangerous decibels for those who live very close to mosques, and that can cause hearing loss over time.”
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(05-24-2017 11:22 AM)iop890 Wrote:
This is not fake in any way at all...
They are still a disgrace though. Although it's not their fault (the lower down officers), they have to follow the law on free speech. The politicians are to blame.
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(05-24-2017 07:33 AM)TigOlBitties Wrote: 1) The Left are notorious for creating fake hate crimes
2) It's a natural reaction to target people from the attacking tribe after yours has been attacked. I'm not saying it's right, but it is what it is. Better them than us, especially since the UK government is doing nothing to stop Islamists, and even welcoming it. At this point, many people want nothing to do with Islam, and I don't really blame them. It doesn't have to be like this, but cucks gonna cuck.
It's just a hunch but I think over the next few years the Muslim community as whole will learn that there are consequences to alienating and attacking host societies. Yes a lot of innocent people will be targeted but there's a very applicable German expression: Mitgehangen - mitgefangen. Meaning if you're tagging along then you're equally guilty. Where are the mass Muslim protests against terrorism and daily attacks against indigenous populations. I have seen very little of that and the vast majority of Muslims condones or even quietly encourages what the extremist minority is doing. In many cases they are even actively supporting and hiding terrorist subjects and there are countless stories of entire Muslim neighborhoods blocking police activities.
So let's not be naive - if you really think that this war can be won without hurting innocent Muslims then you better go and focus your efforts at immigrating out of Europe. Communities are always and have always been judged by the actions of a few as they are usually representative of the general disposition of that community. It's human nature and it cannot be helped as it is impossible to judge each person on an individual basis. Plus you know - taqiya and all that... it's been working well for them for millenia and it's time to that they start embracing the consequences. A culture that openly prides itself of taqiya in my book immediately has lost any credibility. Period.
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RE: Explosion in Manchester's Ariana Grande concert
(05-24-2017 11:36 AM)balybary Wrote: The muslims use loudspeakers (invented by non-muslim white males) to make a lot of noise with the calls to prayers. According to many reports, the noise disturbs the sleep of people, especially during Ramadan, so how can they be productive during the day?
Two years ago, an American running a guesthouse near a mosque on the tourist island of Lombok snapped during a prayer reading and yanked the wire connecting the speaker. He was sentenced to five months in jail for blasphemy.
Anita Rizki, a 22-year-old secretary at a private hospital in Jakarta, said the mosques were bad enough throughout the year, but became impossible during Ramadan, which is one of the five pillars of Islam.
“I feel guilty for my non-Muslim neighbours, because the noises keep them up all night,” said Rizki, who lives 100-metres from a large mosque.
“People have different faiths. Our devotion doesn’t need to be broadcast through a loudspeaker. It only shows a lack of religious tolerance.”
According to ear specialist Ronny Suwento, “the noise level can reach dangerous decibels for those who live very close to mosques, and that can cause hearing loss over time.”
Islam is the worst surviving and most successful cult created by Mohammed. I remember reading this Hadith about Mohammed telling his extended uncles that if they would join him, then they would rule over all other tribes.
5 daily prayers that unify the believers while they deprive you of sleep, mindless recital of the texts without any detached and mentally honest discussion, inability to leave the cult, inability to question the cult and the leader, inability to change or amend the cult after death of the great leader, system in place that should spread via warfare, assimilation until the entire world belongs to Islam.
It is an amazing cult better designed than any other in human history. Sooner or later mankind will have to realize that this has to be exterminated or the entire world will become Muslim.
RE: Explosion in Manchester's Ariana Grande concert
(05-24-2017 11:37 AM)britchard Wrote:
(05-24-2017 11:22 AM)iop890 Wrote:
This is not fake in any way at all...
They are still a disgrace though. Although it's not their fault (the lower down officers), they have to follow the law on free speech. The politicians are to blame.
Good to see that the British police has clarified its priorities. #Collaborator
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(05-24-2017 09:22 AM)Roosh Wrote: I did a video on the bombing:
Roosh, great video. I agree 100%. I think the best thing we can hope for is that the globalists/elites/whoever's in charge have a change of heart and cut off immigration at some point. Or they take actual measures to combat Islamic terrorism specifically. Since we don't hold the levers of power, there's really nothing we can do but complain on the internet.
What you can also do is distance yourself emotionally from these kinds of human tragedies, that way you won't get wound up in a frenzy when they happen. I didn't flinch when 9/11 happened, Orlando, or this shit. I think it's important to just not care. Somebody asks you "Isn't it terrible what happened in Manchester?" Me: "Eh. Didn't affect me or my family."
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(05-24-2017 12:34 PM)iop890 Wrote:
(05-23-2017 04:40 PM)iop890 Wrote:
Muslim cab drivers usually are celebrating after such events.
My father was a witness to this during 9/11 as Muslim cabbies exited their cars and celebrated in the streets in a German city. The Twin Towers had fallen on that day and thousands died, but those assholes celebrated it like a great event. It was a scene that could be observed all across the world.
The funny thing is that I ignored his story for a long time and only remembered it after studying Islam more. Before that I was more influenced by the mainstream media and their stories of "exceptions" - utterly ignoring the underlying ideology of Islam.
By the way, Ramadan does increase, and vastly, the rate of common criminal acts (muggings, thefts, street harassment), but I don't think it increases the number of terror attacks?
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(05-24-2017 10:18 AM)AntiMediocrity Wrote: I'm sure plenty of wars were won through hand-holding.
Most wars in human history were won through sword holding and a will to completely eviscerate the enemy. We'll get there eventually but until then be prepared to be witness to a long sequence of unfortunate events. When the political pendulum finally swings back it will be swift and merciless. Until that happens don't be stupid and don't stick your head out. Ruining your own life, your career, your reputation isn't worth whatever little difference you may be able to make. The cards are currently stacked against us and only time and continued suffering will shift the dynamics in our favor. Either that or the West will simply cease to exist. I am prepared for that eventuality and so should everyone else on this board.
RE: Explosion in Manchester's Ariana Grande concert
One has to wonder if their letting this attacks happen to achieve some unknown goal. The guy travels to Libya, a failed state that they know about since they were instrumental in causing it to fail, but they don't keep an eye on him? They could have easily assigned one of those people they're using to watch Assange in the embassy. Then there's the sanitizing of the event, they must have some good tech to scoop up all of the video so that none of it that shows what actually happened appears anywhere. Contrast this to the Syrian chemical weapon attack and the fact that the UK is one of the most surveilled places on the planet.
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