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^^ Of course it's not universally right. Social shame still plays a big part in the west, specially in Mediterranean Europe, and all around in the bottom and upper classes. The sexual liberation is more of a middle class thing (who is shrinking everywhere btw).

Also saying that Polish guys are not thirsty is totally inaccurate, those mofos approach more and more aggressively than any Western nationality, they take caveman game to a whole other level.

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(05-18-2017 04:34 PM)Pointer Wrote:  While it's true that Polish women unleash their inner sluts when abroad, it's not something exclusive. It tends to happen to all women in general. That doesn't make the UK a good place to live.

London in particular is a terrible place with rent prices 262.11% higher than in Warsaw while the local purchasing power is only 15.08% higher.
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/co...rrency=PLN

With an income of just 2000 pounds/month in Warsaw you can live like a king. Add 15% to that = 2300 pounds, how far does that get you in London towards being a handsome guy with game and money ?
Then you have a shitty ethnic distribution with almost half British cunts + shitloads of Asians, Blacks and Arabs. I believe about 10 of the population is ethnic white non-British. It's about the same population as Krakow but spread out over an area 4-5 times as large.

Cost of the life, safety and demographics are in fact the main reasons for Poland being better for living long-term compared to West and in this case London, no doubt about that. I just say that in my opinion London is better for the occasions that you can have with the girls; there is less social control, plenty of foreign girls and many occasions to go out/get laid. Just thinking that getting a salary of 2k pound in Warsaw means that you are an expert or in a managerial position. You could get 1/2 times more in London for the same job, and then you start observing how the life changes over there.
Anyway I have a detailed plan of trips for next month, and planned to try some long weekend in Northern Europe this summer. Good and cheap connections from Poland.

About: day game doesn't work here at all, it is even better trying your chance in clubs with plenty of foreigners or on Tinder, despite the massive competition.
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Oh guys every time im reading this thread it makes me feel good to be polish. The amount of girls youre missing out from speaking English or broken Polish must be staggering. Most Polish guys dont do day game because its not necessary , we can go out and just say hello and the conversation goes on Wink Also as said before there is a huge negative trend about polish women shagging erasmus guys and foreigners so that might make things even harder.
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(05-18-2017 08:18 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  I dont know if its universally right to say all western women dont care if their friends hook up or not. Jealousy can play a huge part in the cliques of the west.

You paint a grim picture for people going for game in Poland. What about those guys in their 30s going to 2nd tier cities looking for a medium to long term relationship? What would the approach be? Lets assume these guys would be staying for a few months at least and he has yet to learn the language. Lets also break it down by ethincity if its relevant in any forum member's experience here.
Obviously not *all*, I believe this forum doesn't need disclaimers like "generally speaking" or "for the most part" to state generalisations.

Jealous plays a part yes, if the guy seems to be holding a lot of value the girls will fight over him or even sabotage any chance of a hook up because if "she can't hook up with him, no-one can". But I believe the discussion is about guys who can be considered average by western standards yet in foriegn countries are not considered as average due to any financial leverage and novelty value. I'm on the basis that in the former jealousy isn't as much as a variable (correct me if I'm wrong) and in the latter originally there was success but now girls are more clued in on the situation so band together and cockblock, so to speak.

I know that anecdotes are not an argument, but I just want to use myself as an example before I address your contention. My trip to Poland was a mountain trip, 11 days in Zakopane biviing and 3 days in Krakow. Who goes to the mountains and bivies for 11 days hoping to get laid? So when that question "why come to Poland" came up- as it always has and always will until it turns into a resort country like Spain-my motives were clearly not of the sexual variety.

Meanwhile the average gamer may have his "alibi" on hand but it's not genuine and it might be seen though. Especially if it's the same lines repeated by other dudes who have been hunting there. "I love Polish culture" is equivalent to Mystery's cube technique here; Fascinating at first but now it's been too oft repeated.

Medium term relationship? Forget about it. Girls are always in it for the long haul thanks to the Catholicism. Unless you can convince her it's going to be long term (i.e you have a footprint here), she won't waste her time beyond a one-nighter.

As for long term, well that depends. If you give the impression that Poland is simply an extended vacation for you you're going to get lots of flakes because girls don't see you as a sure thing. A girl would rather date a guy who has a meager salary but clearly wants to marry and have kids here than a rich dude who's a country jumper. If you give off the impression that you're here to stay unless dire circumstances occur, because you admire Poland and everything it stands for, potentially learn the language as an offshoot of that etc than you'll only have issues typical of expats- language and cultural barriers.

One need only look to NewMeta for an example of successful integration and success with local females. I've never read about him club hopping, for what it's worth and he has mentioned having a circle of friends.

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@snacky20: to be said that many Polish guys have widely improved in the last years their look and style, at least in the biggest towns. Few years ago you could see many people going to party in sport clothes. I think that over the course of last years they have observed how foreigners dress and approach girls and tried to get the best from that. It is now a kind of additional competition, surely less intense than in West, but we need to admit that some of these guys have done their homeworks well and the "I am from Paris" lines don't give you any sort of advantage anymore over them.
To come back to the topic of AntyMediocrity, I tend to agree with many of the considerations, just I would like to underline that the more you increase and display value, the less an average/cute girl is willing to give you a chance because she regards you as difficult to manage due to the high value. Sometimes it is better to appear like a stupid coming from nowhere than a successfull guy.
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(05-19-2017 05:38 AM)AntiMediocrity Wrote:  
(05-18-2017 08:18 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  I dont know if its universally right to say all western women dont care if their friends hook up or not. Jealousy can play a huge part in the cliques of the west.

You paint a grim picture for people going for game in Poland. What about those guys in their 30s going to 2nd tier cities looking for a medium to long term relationship? What would the approach be? Lets assume these guys would be staying for a few months at least and he has yet to learn the language. Lets also break it down by ethincity if its relevant in any forum member's experience here.
Obviously not *all*, I believe this forum doesn't need disclaimers like "generally speaking" or "for the most part" to state generalisations.

Jealous plays a part yes, if the guy seems to be holding a lot of value the girls will fight over him or even sabotage any chance of a hook up because if "she can't hook up with him, no-one can". But I believe the discussion is about guys who can be considered average by western standards yet in foriegn countries are not considered as average due to any financial leverage and novelty value. I'm on the basis that in the former jealousy isn't as much as a variable (correct me if I'm wrong) and in the latter originally there was success but now girls are more clued in on the situation so band together and cockblock, so to speak.

I know that anecdotes are not an argument, but I just want to use myself as an example before I address your contention. My trip to Poland was a mountain trip, 11 days in Zakopane biviing and 3 days in Krakow. Who goes to the mountains and bivies for 11 days hoping to get laid? So when that question "why come to Poland" came up- as it always has and always will until it turns into a resort country like Spain-my motives were clearly not of the sexual variety.

Meanwhile the average gamer may have his "alibi" on hand but it's not genuine and it might be seen though. Especially if it's the same lines repeated by other dudes who have been hunting there. "I love Polish culture" is equivalent to Mystery's cube technique here; Fascinating at first but now it's been too oft repeated.

Medium term relationship? Forget about it. Girls are always in it for the long haul thanks to the Catholicism. Unless you can convince her it's going to be long term (i.e you have a footprint here), she won't waste her time beyond a one-nighter.

As for long term, well that depends. If you give the impression that Poland is simply an extended vacation for you you're going to get lots of flakes because girls don't see you as a sure thing. A girl would rather date a guy who has a meager salary but clearly wants to marry and have kids here than a rich dude who's a country jumper. If you give off the impression that you're here to stay unless dire circumstances occur, because you admire Poland and everything it stands for, potentially learn the language as an offshoot of that etc than you'll only have issues typical of expats- language and cultural barriers.

One need only look to NewMeta for an example of successful integration and success with local females. I've never read about him club hopping, for what it's worth and he has mentioned having a circle of friends.

I have no leg to stand on regarding ethnicity, I'm white British.

Good points. Prior posts have alluded to the fact that polish people are indeed suspicious of foreigners so social circle is going to be a challenge especially in second tier cities so I am guessing thats going to depend on luck and a very outgoing personality to an extent. Of course, I am assuming here that learning Polish is a must for any long term stay.

Out of curiosity, how is getting the ONS in poland different than the UK(outside of London)? Feel free to share your experiences of other black or latino guys you have seen in both places.

Also, have you encountered coloured guys in long term relationships with Poles either in the UK or in Poland?
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(05-19-2017 09:42 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  
(05-19-2017 05:38 AM)AntiMediocrity Wrote:  
(05-18-2017 08:18 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  I dont know if its universally right to say all western women dont care if their friends hook up or not. Jealousy can play a huge part in the cliques of the west.

You paint a grim picture for people going for game in Poland. What about those guys in their 30s going to 2nd tier cities looking for a medium to long term relationship? What would the approach be? Lets assume these guys would be staying for a few months at least and he has yet to learn the language. Lets also break it down by ethincity if its relevant in any forum member's experience here.
Obviously not *all*, I believe this forum doesn't need disclaimers like "generally speaking" or "for the most part" to state generalisations.

Jealous plays a part yes, if the guy seems to be holding a lot of value the girls will fight over him or even sabotage any chance of a hook up because if "she can't hook up with him, no-one can". But I believe the discussion is about guys who can be considered average by western standards yet in foriegn countries are not considered as average due to any financial leverage and novelty value. I'm on the basis that in the former jealousy isn't as much as a variable (correct me if I'm wrong) and in the latter originally there was success but now girls are more clued in on the situation so band together and cockblock, so to speak.

I know that anecdotes are not an argument, but I just want to use myself as an example before I address your contention. My trip to Poland was a mountain trip, 11 days in Zakopane biviing and 3 days in Krakow. Who goes to the mountains and bivies for 11 days hoping to get laid? So when that question "why come to Poland" came up- as it always has and always will until it turns into a resort country like Spain-my motives were clearly not of the sexual variety.

Meanwhile the average gamer may have his "alibi" on hand but it's not genuine and it might be seen though. Especially if it's the same lines repeated by other dudes who have been hunting there. "I love Polish culture" is equivalent to Mystery's cube technique here; Fascinating at first but now it's been too oft repeated.

Medium term relationship? Forget about it. Girls are always in it for the long haul thanks to the Catholicism. Unless you can convince her it's going to be long term (i.e you have a footprint here), she won't waste her time beyond a one-nighter.

As for long term, well that depends. If you give the impression that Poland is simply an extended vacation for you you're going to get lots of flakes because girls don't see you as a sure thing. A girl would rather date a guy who has a meager salary but clearly wants to marry and have kids here than a rich dude who's a country jumper. If you give off the impression that you're here to stay unless dire circumstances occur, because you admire Poland and everything it stands for, potentially learn the language as an offshoot of that etc than you'll only have issues typical of expats- language and cultural barriers.

One need only look to NewMeta for an example of successful integration and success with local females. I've never read about him club hopping, for what it's worth and he has mentioned having a circle of friends.

I have no leg to stand on regarding ethnicity, I'm white British.

Good points. Prior posts have alluded to the fact that polish people are indeed suspicious of foreigners so social circle is going to be a challenge especially in second tier cities so I am guessing thats going to depend on luck and a very outgoing personality to an extent. Of course, I am assuming here that learning Polish is a must for any long term stay.

Out of curiosity, how is getting the ONS in poland different than the UK(outside of London)? Feel free to share your experiences of other black or latino guys you have seen in both places.

Also, have you encountered coloured guys in long term relationships with Poles either in the UK or in Poland?

I rarely encounter just foreigners in general in LTRs here. Not many actually stick around for it and are more interested in notches, so as you can imagine I basically almost never see it, maybe less than 5 times in the 2 years ive lived here, and no way of actually know if its an LTR or not.
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(05-19-2017 09:42 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Out of curiosity, how is getting the ONS in poland different than the UK(outside of London)? Feel free to share your experiences of other black or latino guys you have seen in both places.

Also, have you encountered coloured guys in long term relationships with Poles either in the UK or in Poland?
There are guys more qualified on this forum then I regarding ONSs, I've never been able to pull them off outside of Tinder because I can't be in my element in club scenes. I'm a high analyst/observer so I find myself sticking to the dance floor just to lose the "meat market" sensation, then lose motivation to dance because I find myself dancing to the same trite I danced to in the UK.

As for day game I've never done it, I am usually outside just to make errands and I don't feel comfortable interrupting anyone from theirs. Any girls hanging around the malls because they have nothing better to do have zero appeal for me, for what it's worth.

For me a ONS is someone whom you would have zero interest in dating, whether by looks or intellect and I've had a couple of them through Tinder (England), they were fun for sure on the night but ultimately it was notch building and once I got to 10 I considered myself done with them. Since then I've only been in LTR's.

Every black dude I've seen walk around the city is well dressed, groomed, in shape and speaks good English-No ebonics. I've seen ones going about their day alone and going somewhere (no loungers), and others with a Polka on their arm/hand- and she's not half bad actually. I have a lot of respect for these guys because in spite of Poland's racial prejudices, they clearly never took it personally and integrated just fine, bagging themselves a decent job and a loving GF. Poland only has room for the educated.

If you mean Spaniards/Portugese/Italians when it comes to Latino's, their approach is similar to that of Brit staggers, albeit they're more charming and handsome than well, laddish. Girls are often quite taken by Latino's, but due to many following the YOLO stereotype inherent of their culture they tend to hit and and quit it, leaving girls quite resentful of that nationality. If you can break past that stereotype and get past the flakes, girls will be quite relieved I assure you.

There appear to be darker skinned guys speaking Polish on the bus sometimes even, so it's not as whitewashed as you may believe. But enough to encourage any non-whites to try and fit in as best as they can.
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(05-19-2017 04:57 AM)snacky20 Wrote:  Oh guys every time im reading this thread it makes me feel good to be polish. The amount of girls youre missing out from speaking English or broken Polish must be staggering. Most Polish guys dont do day game because its not necessary , we can go out and just say hello and the conversation goes on Wink Also as said before there is a huge negative trend about polish women shagging erasmus guys and foreigners so that might make things even harder.

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(05-19-2017 04:57 AM)snacky20 Wrote:  Oh guys every time im reading this thread it makes me feel good to be polish. The amount of girls youre missing out from speaking English or broken Polish must be staggering. Most Polish guys dont do day game because its not necessary , we can go out and just say hello and the conversation goes on Wink Also as said before there is a huge negative trend about polish women shagging erasmus guys and foreigners so that might make things even harder.

I spent one day in Warsaw, on a Tuesday night, me and my friend were walking random near Palac and we met two girls (the only two that I actually saw during this night who were having drinks/going out). We wen to a bar, then to another, then to another, then to our Airbnb. Was it luck and Polish girls are still tough AF or am I missing something?
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(05-19-2017 12:06 PM)goncalo999 Wrote:  I spent one day in Warsaw, on a Tuesday night, me and my friend were walking random near Palac and we met two girls (the only two that I actually saw during this night who were having drinks/going out). We wen to a bar, then to another, then to another, then to our Airbnb. Was it luck and Polish girls are still tough AF or am I missing something?
In his defence, he never said Polish girls were tough, only that:

a) By not speaking Polish, you're missing out on a lot of opportunities
b) Erasmus and foreign guys are starting to develop a reputation and girls can be averse to that. Can be.

By the way, it's generally accepted that Warszawa is easier than Krakow, Wrocław and Gdansk. More expatriates compared to horny tourists = more open women.
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Short to medium term relationships can work. I'm talking 3 to 6 months, but if she finds out that you have something on the side then it's over. It's hard to balance meeting new girls vs maintaining the "harem" with a full time job. A lot of times you have to make a trade-off. Once the girl is into you she will demand more and more time investment. The best approach is to hook up with students that are from outside the city. The will go visit their parents for the weekend more often than not and you can take advantage of that.
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i was in kiev for 4 days and had 30 matches in 4 days without boost. Some of them are modeltypes. In Poland i get only a few matches with normal or fat girls.

What are you experience?
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@sync: business as usual, Kiev is 10x better for quality, easiness and mentality of girls, if you are able to screen properly and avoid the few goldiggers. I didn't even need to run internet game there since girls were responsive on the streets and had solid contacts. Tinder is useless in Poland and commonly used only for ""curiousity"" from the girls as well as to increase their ego or acquire followers on Instagram. It is a very low ROI hence I strongly suggest not to even lose your time in swiping or messaging.
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After nearly 10 days in Krakow, here it is in a nutshell (me and my friend did almost only daygame, mixed with sightseeing also):
1. If you're standards are high, polish chicks will disappoint you. Their long noses and bony features along with butterface on top won't appeal to you, if you usually like Ukrainian, Romanian...girls. Bodies can be great; for me without a proper face, it doesn't matter too much though.

2. True hot chicks are very rare, so it just takes lots of time to run into them.

3. The attitude of the typical local chick in Krakow is usually bad towards foreigners. The only ones who warm up are either from other towns and visiting here or moved here only recently (few months).

4. Society seems closed minded. Social circle matters a lot to open it up. Met a local for business who shared some insight into this.

5. The good looking girls here are usually Ukrainians (lots if them studying studying here).

6. Tinder is a waste of time here.

7. Flakes are a constant issue also.

Overall, Krakow is great for sightseeing and cost of living. Girl situation is genetically bad (that if you standards are high) and attitude worse from the millions of tourists who partied here.
I share Giacomo' s feelings about this place otherwise.
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Big Changes in Poland!!! I come regurarly to bo my birthplace (2nd tier) where my brother has a house. 1-2 years ago i ve seen one or two foreign guys in clubs. yesterdays it were 25. I talked with some waitress and bouncers. This foreigners all are students.

Looks like form pakistan or arabs.

In other club a little bit outside of the center it was different. There i noticed a much better quality of girls.But still a sausage fest. Ratio 65% men. And at least 4 ukrainien guys and 2 girls frome ukrain
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(05-21-2017 03:28 AM)danut15 Wrote:  After nearly 10 days in Krakow, here it is in a nutshell (me and my friend did almost only daygame, mixed with sightseeing also):
1. If you're standards are high, polish chicks will disappoint you. Their long noses and bony features along with butterface on top won't appeal to you, if you usually like Ukrainian, Romanian...girls. Bodies can be great; for me without a proper face, it doesn't matter too much though.

2. True hot chicks are very rare, so it just takes lots of time to run into them.

3. The attitude of the typical local chick in Krakow is usually bad towards foreigners. The only ones who warm up are either from other towns and visiting here or moved here only recently (few months).

4. Society seems closed minded. Social circle matters a lot to open it up. Met a local for business who shared some insight into this.

5. The good looking girls here are usually Ukrainians (lots if them studying studying here).

6. Tinder is a waste of time here.

7. Flakes are a constant issue also.

Overall, Krakow is great for sightseeing and cost of living. Girl situation is genetically bad (that if you standards are high) and attitude worse from the millions of tourists who partied here.
I share Giacomo' s feelings about this place otherwise.

I ve noticed hate against foreigner in Krakow. Not from all but in generell they are sick of foreigners. I speak polish fluently and seen the reaction from people to foreigner. Quality of girls for me was bad. Some good girls in club. But on the streets i was disappointed. Also for me the city is too small and i prefere modern cities like frankfurt
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What's really bad lately in Krakow is that many girls don't even look your face when you start talking, either if you approach in English or Polish. It seems like many girls have an automatic reaction like robots: "I have a boyfriend" (who has asked you?), "I dance with my friend", "I don't speak English", "I am busy", "I am talking with my friend now". I should try to approach directly in French or Portuguese, maybe their automatic reaction internal software will have a bug and they will be forced to behave like humans.
This morning I woke up and I booked next weekend in another Polish city, hopefully it will be better.
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(05-19-2017 11:14 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  
(05-19-2017 09:42 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  
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(05-18-2017 08:18 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  I dont know if its universally right to say all western women dont care if their friends hook up or not. Jealousy can play a huge part in the cliques of the west.

You paint a grim picture for people going for game in Poland. What about those guys in their 30s going to 2nd tier cities looking for a medium to long term relationship? What would the approach be? Lets assume these guys would be staying for a few months at least and he has yet to learn the language. Lets also break it down by ethincity if its relevant in any forum member's experience here.
Obviously not *all*, I believe this forum doesn't need disclaimers like "generally speaking" or "for the most part" to state generalisations.

Jealous plays a part yes, if the guy seems to be holding a lot of value the girls will fight over him or even sabotage any chance of a hook up because if "she can't hook up with him, no-one can". But I believe the discussion is about guys who can be considered average by western standards yet in foriegn countries are not considered as average due to any financial leverage and novelty value. I'm on the basis that in the former jealousy isn't as much as a variable (correct me if I'm wrong) and in the latter originally there was success but now girls are more clued in on the situation so band together and cockblock, so to speak.

I know that anecdotes are not an argument, but I just want to use myself as an example before I address your contention. My trip to Poland was a mountain trip, 11 days in Zakopane biviing and 3 days in Krakow. Who goes to the mountains and bivies for 11 days hoping to get laid? So when that question "why come to Poland" came up- as it always has and always will until it turns into a resort country like Spain-my motives were clearly not of the sexual variety.

Meanwhile the average gamer may have his "alibi" on hand but it's not genuine and it might be seen though. Especially if it's the same lines repeated by other dudes who have been hunting there. "I love Polish culture" is equivalent to Mystery's cube technique here; Fascinating at first but now it's been too oft repeated.

Medium term relationship? Forget about it. Girls are always in it for the long haul thanks to the Catholicism. Unless you can convince her it's going to be long term (i.e you have a footprint here), she won't waste her time beyond a one-nighter.

As for long term, well that depends. If you give the impression that Poland is simply an extended vacation for you you're going to get lots of flakes because girls don't see you as a sure thing. A girl would rather date a guy who has a meager salary but clearly wants to marry and have kids here than a rich dude who's a country jumper. If you give off the impression that you're here to stay unless dire circumstances occur, because you admire Poland and everything it stands for, potentially learn the language as an offshoot of that etc than you'll only have issues typical of expats- language and cultural barriers.

One need only look to NewMeta for an example of successful integration and success with local females. I've never read about him club hopping, for what it's worth and he has mentioned having a circle of friends.

I have no leg to stand on regarding ethnicity, I'm white British.

Good points. Prior posts have alluded to the fact that polish people are indeed suspicious of foreigners so social circle is going to be a challenge especially in second tier cities so I am guessing thats going to depend on luck and a very outgoing personality to an extent. Of course, I am assuming here that learning Polish is a must for any long term stay.

Out of curiosity, how is getting the ONS in poland different than the UK(outside of London)? Feel free to share your experiences of other black or latino guys you have seen in both places.

Also, have you encountered coloured guys in long term relationships with Poles either in the UK or in Poland?

I rarely encounter just foreigners in general in LTRs here. Not many actually stick around for it and are more interested in notches, so as you can imagine I basically almost never see it, maybe less than 5 times in the 2 years ive lived here, and no way of actually know if its an LTR or not.

Its surprising given that a lot of people in the forum are looking to countries like these to wife up yet most of the foreigners are there looking for notches and in the process give a negative stereotype of foreign men as not long term material. I am guessing this is mostly attributed to the exchange students but it lets down older guys who go there hoping for long term relationships.
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(05-19-2017 12:20 PM)AntiMediocrity Wrote:  
(05-19-2017 12:06 PM)goncalo999 Wrote:  I spent one day in Warsaw, on a Tuesday night, me and my friend were walking random near Palac and we met two girls (the only two that I actually saw during this night who were having drinks/going out). We wen to a bar, then to another, then to another, then to our Airbnb. Was it luck and Polish girls are still tough AF or am I missing something?
In his defence, he never said Polish girls were tough, only that:

a) By not speaking Polish, you're missing out on a lot of opportunities
b) Erasmus and foreign guys are starting to develop a reputation and girls can be averse to that. Can be.

By the way, it's generally accepted that Warszawa is easier than Krakow, Wrocław and Gdansk. More expatriates compared to horny tourists = more open women.

Why has Gdansk gone bad, is it due to the tourist spill over from Sopot? Can one expect Gdynia to be going down that route too?
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New observation today. 20% of the girls are fat. Thank you mcdonald and KFC

Many rich people. Seen yesterday the newest Rolls Royse Coupe, Nissan GTR and many S Class and newest BMW 7.
I guess this people have own companies and safe taxes.
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In what city you are sync? Warsaw?
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(05-22-2017 07:03 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Its surprising given that a lot of people in the forum are looking to countries like these to wife up yet most of the foreigners are there looking for notches and in the process give a negative stereotype of foreign men as not long term material. I am guessing this is mostly attributed to the exchange students but it lets down older guys who go there hoping for long term relationships.
This is merely an observation, not a critique because to each their own but I really am not seeing "a lot of people in the forum" coming here to find a girl to wife up. Perhaps my observation is flawed, but the way many come off is that they too are looking for notches. They just pop over for 2-4 weeks, trying different cities and hitting clubs/daygame hotspots and then either report they bagged a few girls (good for them, no sarcasm) or that the girls weren't as easy as they anticipated.

I don't know about you but if I was looking to wife up I wouldn't sleep with multiple women (I never want a GF when I have an abundance of sexual opportunities, I can't emotionally invest in a single one), and the last thing I would want when looking for a wife is easy women.

I hope someone can chime in and give me a little insight on this, I've had accusations of being anti-game/a feminist on here and I'd prefer to understand the mentality on the above in some shape or form rather than stay quiet.

Quote:Why has Gdansk gone bad, is it due to the tourist spill over from Sopot? Can one expect Gdynia to be going down that route too?
It hasn't gone bad, just that The Tricity/Trojmiasto residents are higher on average in terms of sexual market value so the guy needs to be bringing more game than he would in the other cities. The girls there will not be sleeping with any sloppy Brits, absolutely not.
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So.. this thread ruined Poland in a span of 6 years? Amazing
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(05-22-2017 11:55 PM)ElSanto Wrote:  So.. this thread ruined Poland in a span of 6 years? Amazing

The thing is that for every person who posts useful information on RVF, there are maybe 5000 lurkers who are using this information to plan their next 2 week holiday to Poland to game as many women as they can.

Because of the prevalence of the internet, information just flows so fast, and as soon as there is some hype is generated about a certain country or city, hordes of thirsty guys just flock there because they want a piece of the pie.

I've been to Eastern Europe (but not Poland), and I can assert that in general Eastern Europe still provides much better opportunities for living a satisfying sex/relationship life to the average Western guy compared to the Anglosphere.

Also, from my experience, Polish people tend to be very nationalistic, so my guess is that the massive hordes of thirsty dudes coming into their country has gotten onto their nerves.
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