(05-11-2017 03:28 AM)Sp5 Wrote: Drunk guy on the beach flipped out, apparently because an Arab guy did a little white-knighting for damsels in distress. Arab guy's family within earshot was also speaking Arabic. Arab guys remained pretty calm considering. Another guy tried to calm him down. Props to him, but shithead came back to rant obscenities and proclaim his Christianity. Jesus would not approve.
I find it interesting that you use the Islam-apologist angle.
1. He was arrested for insults! That should tell you something. How many Muslims would get arrested for saying dirty white Christian whore? Zero. Though to be fair he was arrested for public intoxication and unruly behavior which is fine.
2. In how many Muslim countries would that man be executed? Probably at least a dozen - in another dozen he would be killed by an angry mob.
3. If insults were the worst things that Muslims did in the West, then no one would be overly concerned about them.
Sure - he was a low-IQ man with lack of impulse-control, but all he did was insult someone. Hate-speech and racism is a very dangerous term being used for an ideology like Islam. What race is Islam again?
Of course he did not even know that there are millions of Christian and non-Muslim Arabs, but that is also connected to his low IQ.
As far as I can see he did not hurt anyone and at best he should be given a fine for threatening behavior, not words uttered. If every Muslim in the West would be punished for saying insulting things to Christians and Westerners, then not even the Gulf States could be paying the fines.
Also this incident was triggered as an Arab man was White Knighting against the badly done advances of a White man. Yeah - if that isn't the perfect irony among the rape-jihad happening in the West. Every weekend a Muslim rapes and harrasses multiple women in the West (at statistical rates of 1.000% higher than the locals, but hey - that is no problem). Nah - this guy is the problem and we are being taught that white men are the biggest Islamophobic racists and that this is indeed the biggest problem out there.
If all Muslims were like that moronic bloke on the beach, then no one would be getting panicked like in Spain recently when a few shouted Allahu Akbar in a crowd.
Low IQ, yes. That, getting riled up about "sharia" taking over the USA, and generalizing that to an Arab family on the beach go together.
One of the Arab guys was white knighting, but only to the extent of "please enjoy your time and have fun and let everyone else here enjoy their time." We don't know why the damsels in distress were distressed, maybe he was grabbing his crotch or something. Who would think he was obnoxious?
You'll have to come up with a source for your 1000% higher rape rate claim.
He was arrested for disorderly conduct, nothing else. The story is a warning for guys not to get to riled up about Muslims being in the USA, "sharia," or similar political hysteria. Don't go around fuming about this, so you flip out when you hear Arabic or see a hijab.
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(05-11-2017 04:41 AM)Sp5 Wrote: Low IQ, yes. That, getting riled up about "sharia" taking over the USA, and generalizing that to an Arab family on the beach go together.
One of the Arab guys was white knighting, but only to the extent of "please enjoy your time and have fun and let everyone else here enjoy their time." We don't know why the damsels in distress were distressed, maybe he was grabbing his crotch or something. Who would think he was obnoxious?
You'll have to come up with a source for your 1000% higher rape rate claim.
It is probably higher than 1000% and the gang-rape is 1 million times higher since Westerners have close to zero of that.
But I guess you will only be satisfied when the New York Times declares it - check out the migrant thread - we have put there scores of statistics on hundreds of pages - some even published by the cops and some even run-down by heritage.
No - you are right - Muslims will behave like Americans when they are in the majority in Western countries. It will be all wonderful and nothing will convince you otherwise except when Hillary tells you so.
10% of the population certainly act and dress gay anyway, but probably only about 2.5% overall are genuinely gay, the rest being poseurs, metrosexuals and teenagers and students experimenting with MMF/MFF threesomes who convince themselves they're gay or bi, thanks to peer and media influence, many just revert to normal hetero status once they grow up a bit.
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(05-09-2017 03:42 PM)kaotic Wrote: The Orlando and San Berdo shootings were 2 major ones that come to mind that killed alot of people.
Dude, 53 or so people were killed in those incidents combined. THAT"S IT. In the grand scheme of things, that is definitely not "a lot of people". Especially when you take into account how many have died over in Europe.
Shit, there was probably a drone strike on some Afghan wedding today that had a higher body count.
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(05-09-2017 03:42 PM)kaotic Wrote: The Orlando and San Berdo shootings were 2 major ones that come to mind that killed alot of people.
Dude, 53 or so people were killed in those incidents combined. THAT"S IT. In the grand scheme of things, that is definitely not "a lot of people". Especially when you take into account how many have died over in Europe.
Shit, there was probably a drone strike on some Afghan wedding today that had a higher body count.
It was 64, excluding the 2 terrorists in San Berdo.
Sure but, I'm not trying to be cold when I say this but - we value Western lives higher than people who live in the sand box. We also care about our in the states than overseas in Europe.
We're used to this happening in Europe constantly, not in the US, that's why it has a greater impact here.
We raise more eyebrows and put flags on our facebook pages for Euro attacks, and just shrug when a wedding is bombed in the 'Stan.
Post 9/11 we haven't seen the body count go that high in the states - so yeah to me it's alot of people being murdered.
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(05-09-2017 03:42 PM)kaotic Wrote: The Orlando and San Berdo shootings were 2 major ones that come to mind that killed alot of people.
Dude, 53 or so people were killed in those incidents combined. THAT"S IT. In the grand scheme of things, that is definitely not "a lot of people". Especially when you take into account how many have died over in Europe.
Shit, there was probably a drone strike on some Afghan wedding today that had a higher body count.
It was 64, excluding the 2 terrorists in San Berdo.
Sure but, I'm not trying to be cold when I say this but - we value Western lives higher than people who live in the sand box. We also care about our in the states than overseas in Europe.
We're used to this happening in Europe constantly, not in the US, that's why it has a greater impact here.
We raise more eyebrows and put flags on our facebook pages for Euro attacks, and just shrug when a wedding is bombed in the 'Stan.
Post 9/11 we haven't seen the body count go that high in the states - so yeah to me it's alot of people being murdered.
When such a thing happens then it impacts the whole of society - clubs are getting more nervous and ramp up security, people become less trustful of Muslims in general, leftist double down and start clamping down on anyone criticizing Islam or Mohammed, Orwellian police state gets stronger, police gets more militarized every time it happens etc.
The numbers may be even small in comparison to the entire massive population, but it impacts everyone to a degree. If you had a few nasty car accidents that weekend and 400 were dying on that same day, then this would not matter. It would be bad luck or some negligence.
Terrorism is not bad luck or negligence - it has far-reaching dramatic consequences for everyone - non-Muslims, Muslims, everyone - and none of them good.
(05-11-2017 11:36 AM)kaotic Wrote: We're used to this happening in Europe constantly, not in the US, that's why it has a greater impact here.
We raise more eyebrows and put flags on our facebook pages for Euro attacks, and just shrug when a wedding is bombed in the 'Stan.
Post 9/11 we haven't seen the body count go that high in the states - so yeah to me it's alot of people being murdered.
Good points. I would also add out of those 64 that were killed, how many were Hillary -supporting multi-culti loving idiots? In the case of the Orlando shooting, I think it's safe to say virtually ALL of them since fags vote left.
(05-09-2017 03:42 PM)kaotic Wrote: The Orlando and San Berdo shootings were 2 major ones that come to mind that killed alot of people.
Dude, 53 or so people were killed in those incidents combined. THAT"S IT. In the grand scheme of things, that is definitely not "a lot of people". Especially when you take into account how many have died over in Europe.
Shit, there was probably a drone strike on some Afghan wedding today that had a higher body count.
It was 64, excluding the 2 terrorists in San Berdo.
Sure but, I'm not trying to be cold when I say this but - we value Western lives higher than people who live in the sand box. We also care about our in the states than overseas in Europe.
We're used to this happening in Europe constantly, not in the US, that's why it has a greater impact here.
We raise more eyebrows and put flags on our facebook pages for Euro attacks, and just shrug when a wedding is bombed in the 'Stan.
Post 9/11 we haven't seen the body count go that high in the states - so yeah to me it's alot of people being murdered.
It's also because Americans are more Christian, which means they aren't going to simply walk by their Neighbors bleeding out on the side of the road after being attacked by robbers.
Or in the modern sense, Americans aren't going to turn a blind eye when their Neighbors are slaughtered, raped, and mugged by Muslims. Secular Europeans only care about themselves, and therefore see no problem with mass immigration and crime. They just see those hundreds of thousands of criminal acts and think, "just a freak accident, it doesn't affect me."
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(05-11-2017 03:28 AM)Sp5 Wrote: Drunk guy on the beach flipped out, apparently because an Arab guy did a little white-knighting for damsels in distress. Arab guy's family within earshot was also speaking Arabic. Arab guys remained pretty calm considering. Another guy tried to calm him down. Props to him, but shithead came back to rant obscenities and proclaim his Christianity. Jesus would not approve.
I find it interesting that you use the Islam-apologist angle.
1. He was arrested for insults! That should tell you something. How many Muslims would get arrested for saying dirty white Christian whore? Zero. Though to be fair he was arrested for public intoxication and unruly behavior which is fine.
2. In how many Muslim countries would that man be executed? Probably at least a dozen - in another dozen he would be killed by an angry mob.
3. If insults were the worst things that Muslims did in the West, then no one would be overly concerned about them.
Sure - he was a low-IQ man with lack of impulse-control, but all he did was insult someone. Hate-speech and racism is a very dangerous term being used for an ideology like Islam. What race is Islam again?
Of course he did not even know that there are millions of Christian and non-Muslim Arabs, but that is also connected to his low IQ.
As far as I can see he did not hurt anyone and at best he should be given a fine for threatening behavior, not words uttered. If every Muslim in the West would be punished for saying insulting things to Christians and Westerners, then not even the Gulf States could be paying the fines.
Also this incident was triggered as an Arab man was White Knighting against the badly done advances of a White man. Yeah - if that isn't the perfect irony among the rape-jihad happening in the West. Every weekend a Muslim rapes and harrasses multiple women in the West (at statistical rates of 1.000% higher than the locals, but hey - that is no problem). Nah - this guy is the problem and we are being taught that white men are the biggest Islamophobic racists and that this is indeed the biggest problem out there.
If all Muslims were like that moronic bloke on the beach, then no one would be getting panicked like in Spain recently when a few shouted Allahu Akbar in a crowd.
I watched about ten seconds of his, oh, 84-IQ rant, and that was all I needed to see. The guy's an idiot. Yeah, creeping Sharia and the culture war over stuff like this is a legitimate subject to be angry about, but he seems to be too stupid about how to deal with it properly. You don't start yelling tirades at strangers unless we're already in a state of civil war, with Muslims suicide bombing parts of the United States every few days.
(I'd also mention that not all Arabs are Muslims, but such a teeny number are other religions it's safe to assume that if you see an Arab in the US, he's a Muslim.)
He also stopped short of hitting anybody and deserved a misdemeanor charge at worst. How is this a felony?! If he swung by with a small group of likeminded rednecks wanting to beat up Mohammed and Aziz, then, sure, that's criminal behavior...but this was just some angry, drunk loser screeching a group of people that had multiple men capable of defending themselves. Charging him with a felony is just virtue-signaling.
(05-11-2017 03:28 AM)Sp5 Wrote: Drunk guy on the beach flipped out, apparently because an Arab guy did a little white-knighting for damsels in distress. Arab guy's family within earshot was also speaking Arabic. Arab guys remained pretty calm considering. Another guy tried to calm him down. Props to him, but shithead came back to rant obscenities and proclaim his Christianity. Jesus would not approve.
I find it interesting that you use the Islam-apologist angle.
1. He was arrested for insults! That should tell you something. How many Muslims would get arrested for saying dirty white Christian whore? Zero. Though to be fair he was arrested for public intoxication and unruly behavior which is fine.
2. In how many Muslim countries would that man be executed? Probably at least a dozen - in another dozen he would be killed by an angry mob.
3. If insults were the worst things that Muslims did in the West, then no one would be overly concerned about them.
Sure - he was a low-IQ man with lack of impulse-control, but all he did was insult someone. Hate-speech and racism is a very dangerous term being used for an ideology like Islam. What race is Islam again?
Of course he did not even know that there are millions of Christian and non-Muslim Arabs, but that is also connected to his low IQ.
As far as I can see he did not hurt anyone and at best he should be given a fine for threatening behavior, not words uttered. If every Muslim in the West would be punished for saying insulting things to Christians and Westerners, then not even the Gulf States could be paying the fines.
Also this incident was triggered as an Arab man was White Knighting against the badly done advances of a White man. Yeah - if that isn't the perfect irony among the rape-jihad happening in the West. Every weekend a Muslim rapes and harrasses multiple women in the West (at statistical rates of 1.000% higher than the locals, but hey - that is no problem). Nah - this guy is the problem and we are being taught that white men are the biggest Islamophobic racists and that this is indeed the biggest problem out there.
If all Muslims were like that moronic bloke on the beach, then no one would be getting panicked like in Spain recently when a few shouted Allahu Akbar in a crowd.
I watched about ten seconds of his, oh, 84-IQ rant, and that was all I needed to see. The guy's an idiot. Yeah, creeping Sharia and the culture war over stuff like this is a legitimate subject to be angry about, but he seems to be too stupid about how to deal with it properly. You don't start yelling tirades at strangers unless we're already in a state of civil war, with Muslims suicide bombing parts of the United States every few days.
(I'd also mention that not all Arabs are Muslims, but such a teeny number are other religions it's safe to assume that if you see an Arab in the US, he's a Muslim.)
He also stopped short of hitting anybody and deserved a misdemeanor charge at worst. How is this a felony?! If he swung by with a small group of likeminded rednecks wanting to beat up Mohammed and Aziz, then, sure, that's criminal behavior...but this was just some angry, drunk loser screeching a group of people that had multiple men capable of defending themselves. Charging him with a felony is just virtue-signaling.
Actually, most Arab Americans are Christian, only about a quarter are muslim, the reason being is they mostly come from Arab countries with sizeable Christian minorities like Lebanon and Syria.
One very important fact seems to have been forgotten during this entire debate. It's the main reason why I don't consider Islam a threat, even if they become 20% or 25% of the US population.
That important fact is that unlike most of Europe, Americans still have the right to keep and bear arms. Americans still believe that law-abiding citizens should be allowed to own guns and to defend themselves against violent criminals. Thousands of Americans do this, although most of these incidents are never reported by the anti-gun assholes in the legacy media.
Almost all European countries, many years ago, decided that only criminals should have guns. They are paying for that now. If Europeans want to solve their problems, they will support the repeal of victim disarmament laws. As it is now, law-abiding citizens are defenseless against Muslim criminals. And this will be the end of Europe.
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The 2A is great but it's insane to think that because you have some guns that allowing muslims to make up a quarter of the population would not lead to horrendous levels of death and degradation.
The reality of wide-scale muslim presences is not that one of them will draw his knife at 50 feet and give you an opportunity to shoot him as he runs screaming towards you.
The reality is that one of them bottles your wife/girlfriend/daughter in the back of the head before he and his four friends drag her into the bushes and rape her. They blend back into the increasingly large islamic ghetto nearby and you get to live with a damaged woman in your life until either one of you is dead.
The reality is that one of them gets in a rental truck and runs over 50 concealed carriers before they even realise what the fuck just happened.
I have guns at home. That doesn't mean my life would be unaffected by the admittance of several dangerous pit-bulls to my house to share my living space with.
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(03-05-2017 11:31 AM)Laner Wrote: In Canada, out of 250,000 immigrants a year, about 57,000 are Arab or Islamic.
These 57,000 cost Canadians more than the others all combined. My friends retired SAS father is obsessed with the growing threat of Islam, and has been since the 70's. Most of his SAS life was spend in places like Yemen, and he has no illusions to the bullshit that the government is pushing on the people, and for what purpose.
Like Australia, Muslims here make over $100k a year milking the system. I mentioned the two ex Muslim friends I have, and how they had to quit mosque when they got a job. They were ostracized by their peers for working. Smarter politicians in Canada and especially in Denmark - along with Trump! - are saying that work should be required for immigration. This is to combat Islam. Once young muslims start to work, they often make native friends who by contrast are much more friendly, open and interesting than those from their mosque/family.
This is due to the philosophy of Islam that is all about "infidels pay us", in all history of Islam you can see how Islam uses infidels to extract as much money as possible and expand, the no-Muslim tax is real and the Western Welfare system has become just a new way to tax no-Muslims, young native people in Europe and Canada cannot have kids because taxes are too high due to the massive welfare system being sucked out by the Muslim population, Hamed can have 3 wives and 10 kids living on welfare while the infidel is working 12 hours and getting all taxed in order to pay for Hamed and his family.
(05-13-2017 11:47 PM)puckerman Wrote: One very important fact seems to have been forgotten during this entire debate. It's the main reason why I don't consider Islam a threat, even if they become 20% or 25% of the US population.
That important fact is that unlike most of Europe, Americans still have the right to keep and bear arms. Americans still believe that law-abiding citizens should be allowed to own guns and to defend themselves against violent criminals. Thousands of Americans do this, although most of these incidents are never reported by the anti-gun assholes in the legacy media.
Almost all European countries, many years ago, decided that only criminals should have guns. They are paying for that now. If Europeans want to solve their problems, they will support the repeal of victim disarmament laws. As it is now, law-abiding citizens are defenseless against Muslim criminals. And this will be the end of Europe.
Actually the main reason why Islam won't take over completely is..........
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the presence of nuclear reactors. The globalists will never in a million years allow those buggers to take over reactors - they cannot trust them to operate them and they certainly cannot trust them with what they could do as well. Iran only went the farthest with the nuclear program likely due to their Persian heritage. They could likely operate the reactors of course creating defensive nukes in the process. This will also not be allowed. An Iran color revolution or war is already in the books.
So in return - France will never be allowed to be Islamic - there are way too many reactors running there.
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(05-14-2017 09:46 AM)Latinopan Wrote:
(03-05-2017 11:31 AM)Laner Wrote: In Canada, out of 250,000 immigrants a year, about 57,000 are Arab or Islamic.
These 57,000 cost Canadians more than the others all combined. My friends retired SAS father is obsessed with the growing threat of Islam, and has been since the 70's. Most of his SAS life was spend in places like Yemen, and he has no illusions to the bullshit that the government is pushing on the people, and for what purpose.
Like Australia, Muslims here make over $100k a year milking the system. I mentioned the two ex Muslim friends I have, and how they had to quit mosque when they got a job. They were ostracized by their peers for working. Smarter politicians in Canada and especially in Denmark - along with Trump! - are saying that work should be required for immigration. This is to combat Islam. Once young muslims start to work, they often make native friends who by contrast are much more friendly, open and interesting than those from their mosque/family.
This is due to the philosophy of Islam that is all about "infidels pay us", in all history of Islam you can see how Islam uses infidels to extract as much money as possible and expand, the no-Muslim tax is real and the Western Welfare system has become just a new way to tax no-Muslims, young native people in Europe and Canada cannot have kids because taxes are too high due to the massive welfare system being sucked out by the Muslim population, Hamed can have 3 wives and 10 kids living on welfare while the infidel is working 12 hours and getting all taxed in order to pay for Hamed and his family.
How does one milk the system for $100k/year, and how prevalent is that? Does a muslim immigrant steal more from the system than say, one from the Caribbean?
I think the refugee welfare system should be scrapped, sink or swim, or go back to where you came from, refugees are the main moochers among immigrants. Most of the muslims I see in Canada are people who work, or are looking for a job. Many are underemployed, like cab drivers who were engineers or doctors in their home countries, they are basically here for their kids' futures.
Look at the Quebec City shooting, out of that random sampling of 6 people killed, you have a university prof, two IT guys, a butcher, a grocer, a meat processing plant administrator. The mitigating factor is that Quebec City has a low unemployment rate (mostly because of all the public jobs as the provincial capital), but it's clear that none of these guys were professional jihadi moochers, and the mosque would have been the one place where you'd expect to find them.
In Canada, the problem is more about cops and firemen retiring at 50 with amazing pensions, and a lot of this money ends up getting spent in places like Florida. Boomers in the public sector have gouged the system for decades. Of course behind all of that, you have the overarching problem of the debt-driven fractional reserve system doing the most damage from the top.
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Muslims aren't the problem. Take the Syrian refugees for example. Think about it. Syria was a peaceful country until 2011. That was the year of the "Arab Spring" encouraged by the Obama Administration. The globalists have decided they want to take out Assad and they will do anything to achieve their goal. The Syrians are being killed and their villages bombed because of the geostrategy of elites they have no control over. How can you say that people fleeing bombs are doing it as a sophisticated strategy to destroy the West? It goes beyond all rationality and logical thought. Ever since the end of World War I, the West has massively interfered in Muslim countries and not the other way around. Focusing on the Muslims is a massive diversion from seeing the real causes.
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(05-14-2017 01:04 PM)Sherman Wrote: Muslims aren't the problem. Take the Syrian refugees for example. Think about it. Syria was a peaceful country until 2011. That was the year of the "Arab Spring" encouraged by the Obama Administration. The globalists have decided they want to take out Assad and they will do anything to achieve their goal. The Syrians are being killed and their villages bombed because of the geostrategy of elites they have no control over. How can you say that people fleeing bombs are doing it as a sophisticated strategy to destroy the West? It goes beyond all rationality and logical thought. Ever since the end of World War I, the West has massively interfered in Muslim countries and not the other way around. Focusing on the Muslims is a massive diversion from seeing the real causes.
At least not in North America. There is a muslim problem in western Europe though, which needs to be managed.
I agree with your take on Syria.
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