Post: #1

Hi RVF,

I know I don't have a lot of post count but I've been an avid reader of this forum since 2014.

Many members mention that a lot of the smaller cities or college towns in eastern europe empty out in the summer, so I'm wondering if there are good cities to stay for 1 month that would yeild a high notch count increase. Planning to do 1 month in 1 city late june to late july.

Currently considering:

Tallin, I never been but I like the baltic look, plus I was in lithuania 1 week last winter and closed a 8.5 so I imagine tallin might be similar in terms of difficulty.

Belgrade, never been either, but heard good things about the quality, my only concern is some thread mention that it will take a least a couple of months to pickup momentum.

Warsaw, I was there for 5 days a few years ago, closed a 7 (daygame same day lay) and pulled at least 4 times. Not sure how it will be in summer since I went when uni is in session.

Kiev, never been but heard quality is high but tough to crack.

Other posibilities I'm open to are beach towns, but having spent 1 week on the romanian coast I'm concerned that beach towns will be totally empty and boring during the week.

About me:
Asian American, late 20s, athletic body, 170cm but I've closed taller girls no problem so don't take that into consideration.
I'll be working for about 6 hours a day on weekdays, it's not gonna be a none stop lay mission.
I have about 4 years of experience with both day and night game. But I prefer daygame due to less noise and bull shit.
Most of my lays come from daygame number close then closing on day 2, and that is what I'm most efficient at. Second most common way for me to close is actually same day (not night) pulls, then it's same night pulls from club or bar. I don't do much online since I don't have too many good pictures.

Post: #2

From the cities you're considering, I think Warsaw is best if you are most concerned about quantity. However, the challenge there is that the city is spread out so logistics for daygame and night game are not the best. Tinder is good for easy bangs there. It's not really a university city, has close to 2 million people and doesn't get very hot, so I can imagine summer is ok there.

It's true that the Romanian seaside is only really busy during weekends, but for Bulgarian and most Mediterranean beaches this is not the case.

Post: #3

(04-25-2017 06:03 PM)Pornopung Wrote:  From the cities you're considering, I think Warsaw is best if you are most concerned about quantity. However, the challenge there is that the city is spread out so logistics for daygame and night game are not the best. Tinder is good for easy bangs there. It's not really a university city, has close to 2 million people and doesn't get very hot, so I can imagine summer is ok there.

It's true that the Romanian seaside is only really busy during weekends, but for Bulgarian and most Mediterranean beaches this is not the case.

Would you mind suggesting a few of these bulgarian and mediterranean beaches?

I went by golden sands near varna, bulgaria on my way to catch a flight but didn't have chance to stop by to check it out.

Post: #4

(04-25-2017 04:45 PM)Chinoqio Wrote:  closed a 7 (daygame same day lay) and pulled at least 4 times

What's the diff between closing and pullling?

Post: #5

What's an Asian American?

Someone from Asia...

Chinese or Indian.

Post: #6

Look at his user name he is Chinese

Post: #7

(04-25-2017 10:32 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 04:45 PM)Chinoqio Wrote:  closed a 7 (daygame same day lay) and pulled at least 4 times

What's the diff between closing and pullling?

Pulling = getting girl back to your place.

Closing = dick + vagina + orgasm

(04-26-2017 09:02 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  What's an Asian American?

Someone from Asia...

Chinese or Indian.

Asian–American
noun Asian–Amer·i·can \-ə-ˈmer-ə-kən\

Someone who is made in Asia and packaged in America.

Post: #8

(04-26-2017 03:39 PM)Chinoqio Wrote:  Pulling = getting girl back to your place.

Then I wouldn't put much stock in being able to pull girls. It's a start, better than nothing, but it could also mean she just thinks you're safe/non-threatening enough that she can come to your place and leave without sex. Most guys are able to at least pull regularly.

Closing is the only thing that counts.

Post: #9

Warsaw is horrible, especially in summer. Lots of Uni students leave and lots of silly stag parties come in.

Kiev would get my vote.

Post: #10

(04-26-2017 04:32 PM)This Is Trouble Wrote:  Warsaw is horrible, especially in summer. Lots of Uni students leave and lots of silly stag parties come in.

Kiev would get my vote.

Can you close a good number in 1 month in kiev if on average I go for the close on day3 (second 'date') ? I usually go all out by day2 (first 'date') but I usually only have 1 week in a city so it's often all or nothing

Post: #11

(04-26-2017 09:02 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  What's an Asian American?

Someone from Asia...

Chinese or Indian.

Asian-American typically refers to Americans of East Asian descent. Folks who have families from places like China, Japan, and Korea are thought of as Asian-American, rather than say someone from India.

Post: #12

Yes, using "Asian" as a term for Indian/Pakistani is a British thing. "Asian-American" would almost never be used to be describe someone from that ethnic background in the United States.

Post: #13

If there's no orgasm is it still a close?

Post: #14

(04-27-2017 07:22 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  If there's no orgasm is it still a close?

2 strokes and it counts!

Post: #15

The only place I can really speak on, is Ukraine. I have been there every year, for the last 5 years, averaging a little over a month. I was in Krakow for a few days, in 2014, and wasn't impressed. The women weren't as good looking as Ukrainian women, and as the other poster mentioned, it was most definitely full of British stag parties, and Italian/Spanish foreign exchange students.. kind of a sausage fest to be honest. However, being non-white, you would probably have a better chance than a white American.

Kiev has tons of potential. Women everywhere, everything is cheap as fuck. I found it pretty difficult to close the deal, and I even speak Russian. Honestly, it gets exhausting messaging women all day over there, and taking them out and getting drinks, to just end up with your dick in your hand. I would pipeline before hand, and just try to find a girlfriend for the month you are there.

No matter what, you will spend money.. taking girls out, drinks, dinner, etc. will add up. It's significantly cheaper to just go get jerked off at massage parlors. Kiev is full of them, and they are high, fucking quality. A lot of these women do more than just a massage. Most likely, you can find one that will fuck also. The best thing is, you are guaranteed to go away satisfied. If you prefer fucking, you can always go the prostitute route also.

I suppose my point is, If I could have every dollar I wasted on all those random tricks over there, I would take it all back, and spend it on massage parlors instead.

Post: #16

(04-27-2017 10:15 AM)ChimpGod Wrote:  I suppose my point is, If I could have every dollar I wasted on all those random tricks over there, I would take it all back, and spend it on massage parlors instead.

I wouldn't recommend gaming in Ukraine unless you actually enjoy the process of meeting and seducing women. They are a challenge sure, but once you crack the code, the reward is loads better than getting jerked off in a massage parlor. I absolutely love Kiev and will keep going back again and again.

Post: #17

(04-27-2017 09:39 AM)This Is Trouble Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:22 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  If there's no orgasm is it still a close?

2 strokes and it counts!

I'd like to think it more as if you nut you notch.

Post: #18

(04-27-2017 10:15 AM)ChimpGod Wrote:  The only place I can really speak on, is Ukraine. I have been there every year, for the last 5 years, averaging a little over a month. I was in Krakow for a few days, in 2014, and wasn't impressed. The women weren't as good looking as Ukrainian women, and as the other poster mentioned, it was most definitely full of British stag parties, and Italian/Spanish foreign exchange students.. kind of a sausage fest to be honest. However, being non-white, you would probably have a better chance than a white American.

Kiev has tons of potential. Women everywhere, everything is cheap as fuck. I found it pretty difficult to close the deal, and I even speak Russian. Honestly, it gets exhausting messaging women all day over there, and taking them out and getting drinks, to just end up with your dick in your hand. I would pipeline before hand, and just try to find a girlfriend for the month you are there.

No matter what, you will spend money.. taking girls out, drinks, dinner, etc. will add up. It's significantly cheaper to just go get jerked off at massage parlors. Kiev is full of them, and they are high, fucking quality. A lot of these women do more than just a massage. Most likely, you can find one that will fuck also. The best thing is, you are guaranteed to go away satisfied. If you prefer fucking, you can always go the prostitute route also.

I suppose my point is, If I could have every dollar I wasted on all those random tricks over there, I would take it all back, and spend it on massage parlors instead.

Most of the high-notch count success stories on the forum are typically from SA/SEA. My guess is that it comes down to Westerners having significantly greater SMV leverage in these parts of the world than elsewhere.

I can't recall the last time someone posted a major success story from FSU/Russia, although there have been some from Central/Eastern Europe...

Post: #19

^^ It's true. Don't bother with Ukraine, Belarus, Russia or Poland. You won't get laid unless you're a big baller and it will take many dates. Better off in the Balkan counties or western Europe for easy bangs. Baltic countries I hear are also good but I haven't been.

Post: #20

If you are looking for an EE city to base yourself in for a month or so, you can't go wrong with Budapest or Belgrade. I was in both and had a blast. Lots going on and plenty of talent knocking about. That said, I found Belgrade to be a tough nut to crack but enjoyable for food and culture. I was in Kiev back in 2011 and 2012 before and during Euro 2012 and even though I got laid on both visits, the novelty of the city wore off on the second visit as I was just trodding on my previous routes.

For notch counts, there are better places to go.

Post: #21

(04-28-2017 04:11 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  ^^ It's true. Don't bother with Ukraine, Belarus, Russia or Poland. You won't get laid unless you're a big baller and it will take many dates. Better off in the Balkan counties or western Europe for easy bangs. Baltic countries I hear are also good but I haven't been.

Interesting. I've only been to bulkans one time and remember having a really good time there. I was in Slovenia and being a well dressed western raised Asian almost made me a celebrity. I think the only Asians they ever see are the bus tours of Chinese grandpa and grandmas with expensive cameras and horrendous fashion senses.

Really hot Slovenian girls would give me strong eye contact while I was just walking around sight seeing. And when I actually game I was killing it. 8s and 9s would respond with hearty conversations and anime eyes. I also remember seeing the most nerdy looking asian guy dating a hot Slovenian 9 there. I mean this is the kind of guy who in America would be doomed to end up as some high level engineer pulling in tons of cash but still have to settle for a homely Asian chick introduced to him by his mom or risk dying alone.

I was in the baltics for one week last winter and in a 1 week stay picked up 2 notches while fighting off food poisoning.

But unfortunately I think those countries are too small and will probably empty out in the summer. College aged girls might just go travel or go back to their small village towns or something.

Post: #22

This is my first ever post... been lurking for about six months.

I am planning to take September off from work and spend time somewhere in Eastern Europe, likely FSU.

My actual objective is to focus on Olympic weightlifting & kettlebells plus some form of martial arts (combat sambo or MMA)... but the women are obviously a nice bonus.

In terms of weightlifting and kettlebells, it is possible to hire a high quality Olympic coach for 10 sessions for less than the price of an hour in Western Europe. Same with martial arts - joining a club costs very little, and the quality of the instruction seems really high.

I believe Ukraine is the best choice for me, though I have looked into Russia, Serbia, and Bulgaria (home of the infamous "Bulgarian method").

Anybody ever tried anything like this? Anybody interested?

Post: #23

(04-26-2017 04:32 PM)This Is Trouble Wrote:  Warsaw is horrible, especially in summer. Lots of Uni students leave and lots of silly stag parties come in.

Kiev would get my vote.

I second this. Was in Warsaw in April and it was not as enjoyable as cracked up to be. Granted, it could have been the time of year, and my own experience, but it was full of foreign male tourists. I found the Polish people themselves to be frosty, to say the least, too.

Just moved to Belgrade for a few months and it's harder than I expected getting settled in. However the talent is very good. Girls are slim and dark.

Post: #24

(04-28-2017 04:11 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  ^^ It's true. Don't bother with Ukraine, Belarus, Russia or Poland. You won't get laid unless you're a big baller and it will take many dates. Better off in the Balkan counties or western Europe for easy bangs.

I'd argue the opposite. Did much better in Poland and Ukraine than in the Balkan countries.

Post: #25

Very useful post because there're certain Eastern European cities that get totally empty during the summer time..

I remember that I visited Kaunas (Lithuania), twice...one in September and the second time during August...and the difference was huge..During summer time(july and august), streets, malls and clubs were empty of locals...so you would defenitely avoid that cities.

Certain cities have some sociological factors that affect the affluence of girls during the year(student city,total demographics...travelling habits..)

I've heard that Belgrade is a great choice for summer time(it has a very decent life of locals), I say that because a friend who is a player stayed there for one month during july/august...

Any other city that you would recommend based on reliable references?