Post: #1

Ok so I've done 2 trips in Kiev, a month long each. I struggled quite a bit there getting only 2 day game lays (1 each time) approaching on average 100 girls each trip.

Its really starting to get to me how hard it is (i.e. fact it often takes 4+ dates to seal the deal) as well as the general depressingness of day to day life (rude/non existent customer service). It could well be because I have been spoiled rotten by what many believe to be the greatest quality place in Europe (by quality I mean girls).

I've been told I should visit Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia (one of the 'former Yugoslav' countries quite a lot of times because the quality is 'almost' the same and it takes fewer dates to seal the deal.

Bare in mind I am a 5'7 very jacked, bald (offset by the jacked), white guy in his late 20s. I kind of want to spend a month in another European city just to break the mould. I can't go outside of Europe at the moment as my work won't allow me to. I should say I spent 2 weeks in Budapest, 2 weeks in Prague and several months in Poland but did pretty badly in all of those places. I am looking for quality primarily and am most attracted to leggy slavic ladies

Post: #2

I have spent few days on each of these countries of ex-Yugoslavia:
Croatia / Montenegro / Serbia / Macedonia.

Advantages of these countries: lot of beautiful women, beautiful landscapes, good food, and high level of English among the young people.

Macedonia seems the more traditional, so don’t go there if the only goal is a quick fuck.
Montenegro has small towns, it’s better to go to a beach resort in the summer if you want to meet Slavic female tourists.
Zagreb is expensive if you are on a budget.

You say that you are depress and seem tired of chasing women, my advice is to make rotations, for example: spent 1 week in the nature without thinking about women, do physical activities like hiking in the mountains of Montenegro, then 1 week in a town that you like.

It’s boring to always chase women.

Post: #3

(03-23-2017 08:36 AM)balybary Wrote:  It’s boring to always chase women.

Especially if you never catch any.

Post: #4

(03-23-2017 03:54 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  Bare in mind I am a 5'7 very jacked, bald (offset by the jacked), white guy in his late 20s. I kind of want to spend a month in another European city just to break the mould. I can't go outside of Europe at the moment as my work won't allow me to. I should say I spent 2 weeks in Budapest, 2 weeks in Prague and several months in Poland but did pretty badly in all of those places. I am looking for quality primarily and am most attracted to leggy slavic ladies

Don't wanna sound like a hater or to pick on you, but your height puts you at a strong disadvantage there. Balkan dudes, especially Serbs and Croat, are tall as fuck.

You're better off in SA or Asia....

Post: #5

@WannaBang - did you try pipelining on Tinder or other online sites, before arriving in Kiev? I would imagine if you had started a month or so in advance you might've gotten some good leads?

Post: #6

(03-23-2017 11:41 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 03:54 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  Bare in mind I am a 5'7 very jacked, bald (offset by the jacked), white guy in his late 20s. I kind of want to spend a month in another European city just to break the mould. I can't go outside of Europe at the moment as my work won't allow me to. I should say I spent 2 weeks in Budapest, 2 weeks in Prague and several months in Poland but did pretty badly in all of those places. I am looking for quality primarily and am most attracted to leggy slavic ladies

Don't wanna sound like a hater or to pick on you, but your height puts you at a strong disadvantage there. Balkan dudes, especially Serbs and Croat, are tall as fuck.

You're better off in SA or Asia....

Generally I would concur, but not long ago some guy on this forum went to Zagreb, he wasn't that tall (about 5'7" - 175 cm) and scored with something like 16 girls in about 50 days. He talked about it in this thread:

/thread-59101...ght=Zagreb

Post: #7

@ Tiger

Yeah this confirms my fears - it is quite likely unless a large portion of girls don't mind the lack of height (unlikely). I know I am better off in SA or Asia (I did well in SA) but a) I am not interested in those girls (unfortunately - if I was I would be there now) and b) as I said I cannot leave Europe at the moment

@jselysianeagle

Yeah I had like 100 matches+ last autumn when I came and got a few dates (1 led to a bang). But this time when I came it was like 30 in 2 weeks- it somehow got very shit over winter

@balybary

I already have a rotation lifestyle as I work on rotation every month or so; still this is a great idea - something I would do for sure if I went there

Post: #8

I think while it is always interesting that people post their measurables. At the end of the day there is much information that cannot be easily conveyed on an Internet forum. All I am saying is there are a lot of guys that say they look younger than their age, say they are in great shape, great everything. I am not trying to pick on the op, not at all. I'm just saying everyone is different. Guys who shouldn't do well In one place do, while others who should kill it somewhere don't. So many variables. You could always stay in Kiev and just adjust your game, learn from what isn't working and go from there. Good luck op.

Post: #9

I went to Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia. I liked Serbia best and that's where I would go. Second would be Croatia and last Bosnia. I would only go to Bosnia to see the landscape (it is beautiful) and Sarajevo (interesting city).

Post: #10

(03-23-2017 12:56 PM)Satoshi Wrote:  I went to Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia. I liked Serbia best and that's where I would go. Second would be Croatia and last Bosnia. I would only go to Bosnia to see the landscape (it is beautiful) and Sarajevo (interesting city).

Might I ask why you preferred Serbia over Croatia?

Post: #11

I am heading to Ljubljana at the end of April. They say it's a sweet assist city.

Post: #12

Anyone have a current opinion on the looks of Macedonian girls?

They seem like the traditional, genuine, yet plain in looks choice.

As in, I have never heard a person in real life or I even think a post here give a large compliment to the looks of the women in Macedonia. Similar to Bulgaria, where it is mostly seen as a step down to several of its close neighbors.

Post: #13

Correction: a sweet ass city

Post: #14

(03-23-2017 01:20 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Anyone have a current opinion on the looks of Macedonian girls?

They seem like the traditional, genuine, yet plain in looks choice.

As in, I have never heard a person in real life or I even think a post here give a large compliment to the looks of the women in Macedonia. Similar to Bulgaria, where it is mostly seen as a step down to several of its close neighbors.

Skopje is the capital of Macedonia, it has a small town vibe with 500 000 inhabitants. The city is beautiful, there is some gypsies but they don't seem dangerous. One gypsy was following me at night, I just told him to fuck off.

You can find beautiful women in the street. I invite 2 beautiful ones to take a coffee with me, they enjoy the idea, but act like it was a big deal to take a drink, I guess in a traditionnal small town they don't want to be considered as easy.

So if you want to take the flag, it's better to have some time.

Check this link if you want to see some pictures:
http://macedonia-girls.blogspot.fr/2014/...ussen.html

Post: #15

From Skopje with love:

Post: #16

^^ Not impressed...

Post: #17

@WannaBang - 100+ matches, only "a few dates", and ONE bang?! Damn, I guess Tinder is pretty useless in those parts if no one's willing to even meet up.

Then again, it could be general conservatism on the part of the women there, or just that they're more into meeting ppl face to face as opposed to via apps/online. Hmm...

Post: #18

i didn't see the several months in Poland part. Really trying to be helpful here. Maybe it isn't the location. Maybe you need to do some diagnostics on yourself. Not trying to be a dick. As people, we often blame external factors rather than the internal ones.

There was a guy in business school who always found a good explanation for why he didn't get an offer but others did. It was always like well so so has experience in xyz and other stuff. But never once did he say, I come off like an asshole in interviews. Which was really the main reason he didn't get jobs. He just wasn't likeable.

Wannabang I'm not saying you are an asshole, not at all. I'm just saying are you looking at your problem from all angles? Just trying to help. Wish you the best.

Post: #19

@balybary - she's aight. Anyone spending hundreds (or more) of dollars and their time to travel should expect more. I wouldn't leave NYC and travel halfway across the world for chics like her, when I can snag that right here at home...

Post: #20

How Islamic are the more Muslim-heavy sections of former Yugoslavia - specifically Bosnia, the Kosovan part of Serbia, and, to a lesser degree, Macedonia?

Just wondering for when I go there myself. Is it looser like Morocco/Lebanon, or more traditional overall like the Gulf States? If I show up and am likely not getting laid, it's probably good I know that beforehand.

Post: #21

(03-23-2017 01:20 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Anyone have a current opinion on the looks of Macedonian girls?

They seem like the traditional, genuine, yet plain in looks choice.

As in, I have never heard a person in real life or I even think a post here give a large compliment to the looks of the women in Macedonia. Similar to Bulgaria, where it is mostly seen as a step down to several of its close neighbors.

Seen lot of shorter, cute face, slim waist, big ass girls, but they looked a lot like albanian chicks from Tirana so with 25% of Macedonian population being albanian its safe to assume that it will be harder to game those, otherwise a 6 months ago I saw there a lot of talent. Decent english.

Post: #22

(03-23-2017 03:35 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  @balybary - she's aight. Anyone spending hundreds (or more) of dollars and their time to travel should expect more. I wouldn't leave NYC and travel halfway across the world for chics like her, when I can snag that right here at home...

Agreed. In my own city, I would consider this "last call" material.

Post: #23

(03-23-2017 01:10 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 12:56 PM)Satoshi Wrote:  I went to Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia. I liked Serbia best and that's where I would go. Second would be Croatia and last Bosnia. I would only go to Bosnia to see the landscape (it is beautiful) and Sarajevo (interesting city).

Might I ask why you preferred Serbia over Croatia?

I've been to both Croatia and Serbia and I agree with this sentiment. Serbia isn't as touristy as Croatia by a long shot. Therefore, I think you can capitalize on your foreign/exotic factor more to get that initial attention.

Post: #24

To the OP, before you come to either my country or any else Balkan country, do your homework and learn to swear like a proper Balkan gentleman!





P.S. One of most popular expressions in this video is wrongly said, otherwise its pretty good.

Post: #25

Do the Macedonian women have pointy elbows?
Best insults in Croatian to pick up a fight?

These questions are not essential.

The question is: do you understand the Balkan power?

Quote:Yes,it is mostly a feeling.

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Generally Balkan means living dangerously,living fast,sorting things yourself,taking care of things,control and unlimited rage.We are all angry here it is natural state.You see the American in the video how scared he was.In Balkans it is forbidden to look scared if you look like that the others smell it and they will bite you to pieces.

As for Balkan women they are top especially in body.Serbian,Croat women are absolutely top.Bulgarian and Romanian dress very sexy and have tall slender bodies and big butts.(mediteranean).Greek women can look like Serb,Bulgarian,Albanian or Turk.

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It is quite different.In Balkans you have to appear very serious formal prestige.Also discreet.In Ukraine you just need to show some good qualities although you can further also flash some prestige.The similarity is the corrupted culture mafia states and the orthodox mentality.The frame of mind is similar but Ukrainian women have also the soviet hardcore stuborness,bit of polish craziness,some primitiveness in manners due to lack of Roman occupation and some free spirits due to lack of Ottoman conservatism so they are different in a degree.

The main difference concerns easiness and availability the Ukrainian women have much less shame than Balkan ones and they do not operate so much in secrecy.I mean Ukrainian society is more accepting of certain behaviours than Balkan ones(there are always here guys to put girls in place).So in Balkans women are more stuck up they do not express themselves freely they are more sly and with agendas and the top of these features are displayed by Greek women who literarilly know every trick to put a man in their shoes.

In simple words the things that will land you a 6 here get you an 8 in Ukraine or you have to put more effort money and time here to get the same result if it is possible to get the same result.Also competrition from men is more fierce here(haircuts,wealth,physique,fashion all are way superior here among males than in Ukraine).
Let's say one of the differences is that Serbian girls do not sell themselves they are proud.They maybe poor but behave proud.Serbia is a place of resistance full of mountains where bloody battles took place.For a Serb it is natural to resist and Serbian girls are no exception.No flat terrain like Poland Ukraine.

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I am from Greece.I have discovered a lot of similarities between Balkan folks(I exclude Albanians for obvious reasons) and we really are beautiful people.We have potential and we are powerful.A Serb and a Greek show mutual respect and I never saw any Bulgarian doing shit in Greece.Of course we have got a rather bad fame but we have to compensate by our capabilities power looks.Balkans should get a much better position in European status system it is a dynamic region.
As for women I really believe that our appeal stands out.Especially when they visit they drool all over.And when we travel to their countries the power effect is imminent.Balkan guys at least look and behave manly.